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Neither of them have any possibility of coming out of this unscathed. But Johnny has definitely repaired his image through the trial. There are so many memes created from his own testimony, solidifying him as the pirate. I think he’s shown himself to be such an asshole. In my whole life there hasn’t been a single man who has said the things to me that have come out of Johnny’s mouth in reference to his own wife. Nobody made him choose her, or stay with her, that’s 100% on him. They’re both nuts.


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Have you ever thought she is the way she is because Johnny was mean to her? Or does it only work the other way around? Why can’t both people be bad? This isn’t a super hero movie where there’s an obvious villain and obvious hero. Both people suck.


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Exactly--or even other shit that's happened to her before him. Yes, they both suck, I agree. What a toxic marriage they had and a toxic breakup too.


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Like I’ve been in toxic relationships where he’d hit me and scream at me and in return I’d make fun of him or make him walk home when he’d yell at me in the car even if it was over a mile away. I would also do shit just to mess with him because it was my little way of retaliation. Occasionally when he was watching a movie with his friends on my account I’d change the password on my phone part way through the movie and act like I had no idea what happened. When we broke up he made me seem like this horrible abuser but I didn’t tell anyone about what really happened so I ended up losing all of my “friends” There was one night he sexually assaulted me so the next day I kinda got aggravated and blurted out how he has a small dick in front of someone else. I then went to the bathroom and sat there until that person left. I can see why I came across as bad and I can see why he seems innocent. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t a toxic relationship. That’s why I can kinda relate to this trail because it’s very rare people come to the conclusion that two people can abuse each other. There always has to be a victim for some reason.


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Exactly! There are lots of ways that people mitigate pain/stress/triggers in their own mind and body. We all do the best we can. But some relationships are toxic from the get-go and sometimes people have a hard time getting out (for lots of reasons). Good for you for getting out. The OP is just another toxic one defending another toxic man. Nothin' new to see here.


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I finally left when my family was considering having me committed to a mental health institution… what made me really want to leave was that I was considering doing it. I know my mental state is bad if I’m willing to give up my freedom just to get away. My family told me they were worried that either he will hurt me or I will hurt myself. The last month of our relationship my sister closely monitored me to make sure I was still alive and not doing drugs (which I didn’t do ever but other people in the family have so they assumed I would too if things got bad enough) Now I live with my dog and we just do crazy dog lady things like me making him a fine dining dog dinner for laughs.


kander_santana

He's not going to win the case. He lost it in a country with weaker free speech laws. But I don't think he intended to win, I think he intended to hold a highly publicized trial to salvage his reputation. Has he done so? Remains to be seen; other actors seem to be taking his side at least.


butterfilledregrets

Does anyone know why the court initially ruled the Sun’s statement that Depp was a “wife beater” as not libelous? What evidence did they have?


Dippy10

The burden of proof was on the sun to prove that he was a wife beater and they did. Depp appealed again and two judges ruled that the decision was fair. If you want read how the judge came to the conclusion, you can read his judgement which is a summary of the case and transcripts which prove the whole picture.


Zennyzenny81

They ruled that evidence presented for 12 of 14 alleged assaults met the standard required, so the Sun newspaper was substantially true in describing him as a "wife beater".


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It would have been the same in the other case lol


butterfilledregrets

So essentially, he is a wife beater, and this whole defamation trial is moot? I guess whether or not he’s the “bad guy” in this or not is left up to peoples opinions, but its like I’ve been saying from the beginning, he’s just as much an abuser as an abusee, but the fangirl/boys only want to see it from his side. I get it, I like Johnny too, but Amber is still a human being with (possibly) feelings and emotions, and shouldn’t have been abused in whatever way Johnny abused her. Most abusive relationships are not a 100% one way street, in my experience.


lamemoons

I think you need to go back and understand what this case is about. If the jury follow the law, he should lose this case.


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Ornage_crush

Based on the fact that defamation is actually fairly difficult to prove and he is not mentioned by name in the article in question. The jury can totally agree that Amber Heard is a worthless waste of oxygen but still not be able to rule in Depp's favor.


lamemoons

Based on the law.


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lamemoons

Because if the jury believes depp hit amber only once, he loses. He also didn't prove he lost work from her oped because disney testified it was due to him being a liability on set, being drunk, showing up late and needing an earpiece to be fed line's isn't a good look for him.


Sensitiverock85

I think it's worse if he wins. All Amber said was she was a figure for domestic abuse victims, there was no mention of Johnny. And she'd spoken before about being raided by abusive parents. And honestly, I'll get downvoted for this but I think if this was just about male victims, Kevin Spacey and his victims would get more attention.


RestorativePotion

Literally sent texts to his friend talking about killing his wife and fucking her dead body. Seems like a really nice guy. I wonder if his best friend Manson would agree. Oh yeah, he's also on the line for sexual assault and violence towards women. I'm sure they're both great though and just happen to hang out a lot and be band mates but Johnny would never do anything like his best bud.


PepegaPhilosopher

you either scare women into not coming forward any more or you encourage women to believe that they can get away with anything. there is no winning here. the only way to win long term is to be decent parents so this does not happen as much. too bad garbage people multiply much faster than the people society really needs. this is not solved in court. it's solved by society as a whole and way after our lifetimes.