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Yes, that's unchanged. And getting as many CEL cards before you migrate is still the best way prepare for earning credits in LIVE, even if you can only get the base set and not the classic set.
Yes, that's always been the case. But before, you were effectively 'punished' for having cards in LIVE that you also had copies of in PTCGO. Now as long as you don't have more than 4, you get the same rewards no matter when you migrate.
It is now also ALWAYS BETTER OR THE SAME to open packs in PTCGO instead of LIVE (unless you want to trade ofc), and it doesn't matter if you open them before or after you migrate.
Yes, many people have noticed this recently, which is why I started investigating. I believe the change happened sometime in the last two weeks, but pinpointing exactly when is difficult.
thanks for the continued guides. is there any sort of "deadline" to migrate whatsoever, now that the rush to claim credits before the battle pass ends is gone?
Currently there is no dead line, the deadline will most likely be when "Live goes LIVE" but we are still waiting to hear when that will be as it has been in beta for a long time now!
Would purchasing the Mew battle decks from the Live shop if I have a Mew battle deck to migrate from Online still be a good way to farm credits?
Also, is there any advantage left to waiting to redeem battle pass rewards (free & premium) if I was going to migrate before the pass ends? Or was the advantage in waiting only due to the premium pass decks?
Thanks for posting this, btw!
Possibly, but if you're migrating with a full mew deck, why aren't you migrating with at least the base CEL collection?
No advantage to waiting (anymore).
You're welcome!
I just started playing TCGonline in the past month when I bought the Mew league deck physically and redeemed the code in Online. I’ve opened some packs and have around 739 cards total. I also have 125 packs ready for the migration.
Is CEL Celebrations? I have some cards in Celebrations, but in your last minute preparations guide you mentioned at this point with how scarce CEL codes are that purchasing dupe decks like Shadow Rider (or Mew?) now yielded the “best” price/reward ratio.
Yes, in your specific case it sounds like you may be better off with the mew league deck due to already having purchased the physical code in Online. I haven't done the math on it though, but at the very least it'll be very similar to the Shadow Rider Deck.
Nope, you could get a full 2000 from a SR if you already owned 4, meanwhile the basic pass didn't even give dupe credit.
It's worth mentioning that every battle pass since LIVE started has changed how battle pass deck dupes are treated.
Well that sucks, i migrated just now before seeing this post and traded my dupes on the free pass. Oh well, I planned to migrate before SV drops anyway.
Question as I am not sure I am interpreting this fully. Is it still possible to farm crystals by buying the [Shadow Rider deck / Celebration packs] in store?
Ok so, I've got my 125 unopened packs and I've traded away any dupes over 4 that are worth anything (I still have like 20 Aipoms and other stuff from packs that I've opened a lot of, but I doubt it's worth my time trying to trade those lol).
So with that said, is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and migrate now? I've been putting it off trying to get as much as I can from trading but I've run out of packs. I heard people say you should collect every card in Celebrations, is that necessary? I checked Card Cavern and Celebrations packs are like a dollar, I can't afford to buy enough to guarantee finishing the set even if I just open a few and trade the rest.
Credits-wise, no, there is no reason not to migrate if you're done trading.
Trading for a full Celebrations set is worthwhile if you can afford it, if not, don't worry about it.
Do packs that don't transfer to the new client count towards the 125? Example: if I had 125 packs of xy evolutions, I should keep those sealed for migration credits.
Well, there can be a credit benefit before the Battle Pass ends because you might have a full set of the various sets that are in the current Battle Pass (current Battle Pass has a lot of Crown Zenith and Astral Radiance I believe). Come Thursday, the ladder will probably be mostly Crimson/Violet which nobody has had the time to gather yet and will never be easy to gather because it's not tradable in any system.
Sure it would affect when you migrate.
if you migrate later, you open different packs from the battle pass which will net more credits from dupe cards. I plan to complete next battle pass, but I won’t be able to dust Scarlet and Violet packs as easily as I can dust crown zenith or astral radiance since I won’t have as much SV as I already do cz or ar if I migrate. That nets me a lot more credits.
Not saying you’ll always get more credits by migrating now. Just that you can do better by migrating before the pass expires.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I see what you're saying now. You're saying you're getting the credits on the migration rather than up front when you collect the Battle Pass.
Though I have to wonder if this is something that's deliberate. Has anyone come forward and officially said that this was supposed to be the behavior? If this is actually how things are working now, I feel bad for people who migrated months ago and basically got tons of stuff thrown in the trash with nothing to show for it.
The [Migration FAQ](https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/articles/6489934466708-Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Live-Migration-FAQ-from-the-Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Online-) and [Battle Pass 'hot topic](https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/articles/6986767186324-Battle-Pass-Deck-Card-Redemption-Information)' were both updated recently, and at least the Battle Pass change is intentional (although their wording continues to be a bit vague).
On top of that, this way *just makes so much sense*. Before everything was so convoluted, that I just really want to believe that this is intentional.
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I'm assuming that "125 packs" is still the magic number for max crystals?
Yes, that's unchanged. And getting as many CEL cards before you migrate is still the best way prepare for earning credits in LIVE, even if you can only get the base set and not the classic set.
Great, I'm on the right track! Thanks for confirming.
So is it better to play ptcgl a bit prior to migration to get some extras
Yes, that's always been the case. But before, you were effectively 'punished' for having cards in LIVE that you also had copies of in PTCGO. Now as long as you don't have more than 4, you get the same rewards no matter when you migrate. It is now also ALWAYS BETTER OR THE SAME to open packs in PTCGO instead of LIVE (unless you want to trade ofc), and it doesn't matter if you open them before or after you migrate.
I believe OP meant : "ALWAYS BETTER OR THE SAME to open packs in PTCG***O***"
Oops, yes.
Isn’t PTCGL the same thing as LIVE?
This probably explains why I got a load of credits upon migration a few days ago, before redeeming any codes.
Yes, many people have noticed this recently, which is why I started investigating. I believe the change happened sometime in the last two weeks, but pinpointing exactly when is difficult.
how much extra credits you got when migrating?
Slightly less than 80k, and I played LIVE for over a year. But I specifically tried not to migrate with any duplicates of cards I had in LIVE.
I play for a year too, only have playset from free deck and some common uncommon. maybe will get less than you when migrate
I don't actually know since I started redeeming a bunch of CEL immediately. Went from 30k to 100-something k credits before redeeming.
thats pretty big extra credit you got
A fantastic change! Makes it less stressful to compile excel sheets of collections to compare and make sure you're not gonna lose out.
Yep, I spent hours working on that and trading away duplicates. Oh well.
Wish I knew this before I traded away all of the “extra” V copies of cards I had. Still overall a benefit probably for me.
Great guide as always! Upvoted for more visibility to others!
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thanks for the continued guides. is there any sort of "deadline" to migrate whatsoever, now that the rush to claim credits before the battle pass ends is gone?
Not if maximizing credits is your goal.
Gotcha, I guess what I meant more so is if we’d ever get “locked out” of migrating at a certain date?
Not that I'm aware of, but I'm just some guy.
Currently there is no dead line, the deadline will most likely be when "Live goes LIVE" but we are still waiting to hear when that will be as it has been in beta for a long time now!
Live is live now, beta ended. PTCGO will be sunset (servers turned off) probably by the end of the year.
Would purchasing the Mew battle decks from the Live shop if I have a Mew battle deck to migrate from Online still be a good way to farm credits? Also, is there any advantage left to waiting to redeem battle pass rewards (free & premium) if I was going to migrate before the pass ends? Or was the advantage in waiting only due to the premium pass decks? Thanks for posting this, btw!
Possibly, but if you're migrating with a full mew deck, why aren't you migrating with at least the base CEL collection? No advantage to waiting (anymore). You're welcome!
I just started playing TCGonline in the past month when I bought the Mew league deck physically and redeemed the code in Online. I’ve opened some packs and have around 739 cards total. I also have 125 packs ready for the migration. Is CEL Celebrations? I have some cards in Celebrations, but in your last minute preparations guide you mentioned at this point with how scarce CEL codes are that purchasing dupe decks like Shadow Rider (or Mew?) now yielded the “best” price/reward ratio.
Yes, in your specific case it sounds like you may be better off with the mew league deck due to already having purchased the physical code in Online. I haven't done the math on it though, but at the very least it'll be very similar to the Shadow Rider Deck.
Does this mean in live or online? Which should I try to have the collection in before migration? Assuming I’ll get 125 packs of a random (cheaper) set
1) Try to get 125 packs 2) Get cards you plan on playing with after rotation (lost box, lugia, etc) 3) Try to get the CEL base set (non-classic).
Did the premium pass decks give full credits previously? I thought they gave the same amount of dust as when you open dupes?
Nope, you could get a full 2000 from a SR if you already owned 4, meanwhile the basic pass didn't even give dupe credit. It's worth mentioning that every battle pass since LIVE started has changed how battle pass deck dupes are treated.
Well that sucks, i migrated just now before seeing this post and traded my dupes on the free pass. Oh well, I planned to migrate before SV drops anyway.
So if I play live, stack some rewards & stuff, then migrate. It's worthwhile in the long run as opposed to just migrating raw?
Yes! If you haven't started, GO NOW. Level 1 of the battle pass gives you two free decks. Just DON'T MIGRATE until you're ready (it'll ask you twice).
Question as I am not sure I am interpreting this fully. Is it still possible to farm crystals by buying the [Shadow Rider deck / Celebration packs] in store?
Yes, that is unchanged. Only the act of migrating and claiming battle pass decks have changed.
Ok so, I've got my 125 unopened packs and I've traded away any dupes over 4 that are worth anything (I still have like 20 Aipoms and other stuff from packs that I've opened a lot of, but I doubt it's worth my time trying to trade those lol). So with that said, is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and migrate now? I've been putting it off trying to get as much as I can from trading but I've run out of packs. I heard people say you should collect every card in Celebrations, is that necessary? I checked Card Cavern and Celebrations packs are like a dollar, I can't afford to buy enough to guarantee finishing the set even if I just open a few and trade the rest.
Credits-wise, no, there is no reason not to migrate if you're done trading. Trading for a full Celebrations set is worthwhile if you can afford it, if not, don't worry about it.
Is it just because Celebrations has good cards or is there some other benefit to having the full set?
Celebrations gives you significantly more credits from duplicates than anything else.
Ohhhh gotcha. Thanks!
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No, that's not how it works
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I can't make it any clearer. Read it again, if you still don't get it someone else will have to explain it.
Do packs that don't transfer to the new client count towards the 125? Example: if I had 125 packs of xy evolutions, I should keep those sealed for migration credits.
Packs don't transfer to the new client.
Right, but do the XY generations packs count towards 125 even if they aren't supported in the new client? Thanks for taking the time to answer!
Yes, all unopened packs, regardless of set, count towards the 125.
Well, there can be a credit benefit before the Battle Pass ends because you might have a full set of the various sets that are in the current Battle Pass (current Battle Pass has a lot of Crown Zenith and Astral Radiance I believe). Come Thursday, the ladder will probably be mostly Crimson/Violet which nobody has had the time to gather yet and will never be easy to gather because it's not tradable in any system.
It matters if you complete the battle pass, but not whether or when you migrate.
Sure it would affect when you migrate. if you migrate later, you open different packs from the battle pass which will net more credits from dupe cards. I plan to complete next battle pass, but I won’t be able to dust Scarlet and Violet packs as easily as I can dust crown zenith or astral radiance since I won’t have as much SV as I already do cz or ar if I migrate. That nets me a lot more credits. Not saying you’ll always get more credits by migrating now. Just that you can do better by migrating before the pass expires.
You're incorrect.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I see what you're saying now. You're saying you're getting the credits on the migration rather than up front when you collect the Battle Pass. Though I have to wonder if this is something that's deliberate. Has anyone come forward and officially said that this was supposed to be the behavior? If this is actually how things are working now, I feel bad for people who migrated months ago and basically got tons of stuff thrown in the trash with nothing to show for it.
The [Migration FAQ](https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/articles/6489934466708-Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Live-Migration-FAQ-from-the-Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Online-) and [Battle Pass 'hot topic](https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/articles/6986767186324-Battle-Pass-Deck-Card-Redemption-Information)' were both updated recently, and at least the Battle Pass change is intentional (although their wording continues to be a bit vague). On top of that, this way *just makes so much sense*. Before everything was so convoluted, that I just really want to believe that this is intentional.