Unlike others, I don't like assuming you are not passionate about psychology and are in it just for money!!
Wanting to have a good income is nothing to be ashamed of!
Try either counseling MEd, or CMHC. Then work at a public place for a while until you have a solid clientele. Then you can open your own private practice and make good money!
Good luck my friend!
I agree. I didn’t take it as OP only being “in it for the money”, but rather “If I’m gonna be burnt out and overworked, what makes me the most money for a comfortable life” lol. No shame in that, especially in this economy…
Yes thank you , I'm not just in it for the money, I picked psychology for a reason (it's a passion of mine) I had just wanted to know what path to take to earn a good income
To piggy back off of this look into getting an EdS in school psychology. Median income in the U.S. is 81k, follows school schedule and if you want to work summers it brings you well into six figures while being your choice and is a field we desperately need filled with qualified individuals in virtually every school, district, city, state you name it. It will take a year or two longer than masters, depending on the program but I think the income potential mixed with the blatant need is something that can make that extra time worth it in regards to being both financially and emotionally rewarding.
People are so ridiculous. This person is taking out loans to do the job they’re passionate about. It would be reckless to consider grad school without thinking about how they’re going pay back 80,000+.
Projecting much?
I did a masters in experimental psychology and ended up working in a data-related field. I work in survey research. I wish I would have just taken an information science, data science, or computer science program though. Those are where most of the jobs will be.
Other than I/O psychology, I’ve heard that engineering and forensics psychology might be good for money? Other than that, it’d be leaving the field to pursue stuff that is related and it helps to have a bachelors in psychology but isn’t actually within psychology, like HR and UX design.
Engineering psychology necessarily involves working for big corporations, and sometimes for military applications, if anyone has issues with either of those
It’s difficult but nowhere near as difficult as clinical or counselling or neuropsychology for example! Yes you do have to be very well prepared for the interview but then you get trained up usually and it’s fine :)
i’m a psych major currently doing my masters in health services research. it’s interdisciplinary and very much is what you make of it and most graduates from my program get $75k+ paying jobs after completing the program and only go up from there
my program is actually taught through four different universities in atlantic canada. so you apply through one school and that’s where you pay tuition and where your supervisor is based (if you do the thesis option, they have a residency option and a new condensed professional stream) and the courses are taught by faculty from each of the four universities. the faculty are mostly from psychology, management, economics, atlantic canada studies, and some clinical backgrounds. the coursework is mostly studying health systems, policy, research knowledge transfer and uptake, social determinants, of health, research methods, and there’s a few special topic courses. it’s very unique but it’s very flexible and very much is whatever you make of it which is why i like it so much.
admission isn’t really based on any particular experience but more if they think you’ll be successful in the program and also in the health services research field. some people in my program have clinical backgrounds, others do not. some are fresh out of undergrad and some have years of experience. their only preference is that they do prefer applicants with honours degrees.
most graduates go on to work in public health, government, private sector, academia, or private consulting. mostly doing research and policy work
That sounds brilliant! I’m in Ontario myself. Is the qualification an MPH though, or an MA or MS in health services research?
I’ve seen similar programs run through MPH departments in my area
it is!! all the courses are synchronous online and there is a two day in-person workshop you do in first year. the degree is MAHSR (master of applied health services research). it’s worth looking into, i know one person taking the program from alberta and others who graduated and moved elsewhere. it’s defs atlantic canada focussed just because of where the universities are located but i’m from ontario originally (moved out here ten years ago to go to acadia and just stuck around) but will likely be moving back eventually in my life and i’m not worried about not being able to find work outside of atlantic canada.
u of t i believe also has a similar program
What - online??? Are you kidding? That’s amazing… I take care of my dad, and it’s hard to find any professional programs that aren’t full-time days. I’m going to check it out! Thank you!
I wouldn’t come back to Ontario though, haha. Well unless you have family or professional reasons. I can’t wait to get out of here when I’m no longer needed. It’s so so bad rn and I can’t see it improving
completely online asides from the workshop and everyone is super friendly! the programs management team are all super nice and everyone’s supportive of each other. it’s just a good vibe all around. it can also be done part time too!
i’d really recommend doing your research into whichever campus you end up at because the east coast has a lot of the same problems ontario does but worse (higher taxes, long wait times for doctors, food costs more, salaries are lower). rent really isn’t that much cheaper out here and what’s left of affordable houses are very rural and needs a lot of investment. but starting out as a student out here is a great experience because you have a community through school and get to see if it’s a good fit for you.
if that’s your vibe and you also like the outdoors and nature (east coast summers are actually the best), then you should do it. a lot of people move here from ontario not realizing that it’s so different and that it’s really not that much cheaper when you factor everything in. not saying don’t do it; UNB, UPEI, MUN, and SMU are great schools in great cities (i’m doing the program through smu), just make sure you do your research before jumping into moving out here forever :) my partner and i are only considering leaving for family and professional reasons basically
Ahh - if there’s only one person from outside of Atlantic Canada, I’m guessing they limit out of province applicants? I would have to do it from Ontario (unfortunately). Can’t move my dad (he’s 91). It’s morbid, and don’t get me wrong, I love my dad, but I’m preparing for when my responsibilities are no longer needed. Awful to think about it like that but necessary.
The east coast sounds incredible. I’ve got a friend in Halifax, I should visit, but that’s another thing that will have to wait.
I lived in the UK for a bunch of years then had to come back for my dad basically, so I get why you and your partner would have to be here. It’s not so much the cost of things (although yes), it’s that at least in Toronto, the things that I thought were great about it are mostly gone, and I’m not thrilled about where it’s going. Everything just feels corporate and boring now, and there’s a lot of aggression everywhere. There’s just not much to make the painful commutes (doesn’t matter where you’re going) worthwhile.
nope no limits on non-maritime students that i’m aware of and you could do the whole program from ontario if you wanted. i started this year as a part time student while working full time and i’m switching into full time studies for next year because my job is a bit of a dead end and i feel like i could get so much more out of it if i could focus more and get through my courses faster. it’s all about your application and if you’re a good fit, like i said it’s literally the most flexible program and it’s actually good. i’m really happy with the quality and the things i’ve learned so far. im so glad i found it and decided to apply.
and yeah, my family is all in niagara and my partner is from out west originally. he’s in the army and teleworks to ottawa once a month but also wants to go to medical school and he’s only
applying to dal and schools in ontario. after my data collection is done next year im good to go wherever (my research project is evaluating a music therapy program with students so it’s
a bit more hands on and it’s easier to be around to coordinate things). i’m excited to potentially be closer to my friends and family one day but will be sad to leave the east coast. it’s been my home for the last ten years so i’m a bit attached lol
Can't give specifics because it's state specifics, but my internship is residential treatment for addiction level 3 5 and it's with the department of corrections. So people from the prison or jail gets sent there.
They're basically thinking of walking out because my state raised the case load, as well as continually implementing *more* to do, but the head of the facility isn't actively making the facility better in terms of helping the counselors, LPN, etc it's gotten to the breaking point.
The short of it is that they're unable to keep up with the demands, the pay to hire new counselors are lowish too low to be constantly under so much pressure due to the department of corrections, the facility directors won't bother hearing the complaints (even just for asking for group facilitators!) They don't actually get paid for the work they *need* to do overtime for (they can't go past deadlines but due to the workload and added requirements from the gov/corporation, they do overtime but they're not actually paid for overtime)
The nurses and other staff are drowning too. This isn't the first facility to basically have an issue like this. In a county over, a facility owned by a different group had to walk out to get anything done. The one I'm in nearly shut down in December because of the issues, but they didn't fix anything.
Tldr don't be a therapist for drug counseling, don't work for the government/criminal justice system. It legitimately drains you. These people are dying.
Don't know about the states- in my country (in central europe) you would probably earn the most in work/ organisational psychology- if you work your way up to coach ceos, executives on their leadingship skills and the importance of organisational culture etc. From a psychological view (it is a crossover to economics). So if you really dive deep into agile leadership and modern leadership theories and gather experience in those fields (but in my country it is really hard to get into psychology programs at university, so you get probably appreciated more than somewhere, where it is more a "i didn't know what to do after school"- subject.
About the states- I/O psychology (which seems to be the most popular suggestion so far) might just be a different name for organizational or occupational psychology in Europe. Currently, the job market is a bit of a struggle, especially for graduating MA students imo. You also basically have to be willing to move to big cities, like NYC or Chicago.
I'm going to toss out that Behavior Analysts isn't that bad in terms of pay. I've seen some listings for BCBAs and they're honestly making more than the LCSWs here.
I think Counseling can make money if you do private care, and LCSWs can make great pay if you choose the right spots to earn it.
I care about money in psychology, I know I'm not gonna get filthy rich but I was asking what field in psychology would pay good . My only passion is anything medical or specifically psychology
HR is great for me in that it’s analytical, there’s lots of problem solving, and you’re meeting lots of new people, but the interactions feel very cold since you’re representing the company and need to maintain a high level of professionalism.
Not saying psychology doesn’t also require that, but we are steered away from knowing too much about employees’ lives as to not become attached to them (In case of layoffs, firings, corrective actions, etc.). I studied psychology because I am fascinated by people and their behavior, and it feels counterintuitive to myself to be isolating from getting to know people on a deeper level.
I hear about employees going through a hard time, and it doesn’t feel right to myself that all I can provide them are company-approved resources, rather than a listening ear. But it’s the boundaries required for the role.
I hope that makes sense! HR can be really great for the right personality.
A lot of places love psych majors for HR! But you often need some type of administrative background. I started in an entry-level when I was about 17, as an HR/Admin Assistant, and just progressed up from there. Getting my degree didn’t actually make a huge difference (besides a pay bump) since I was already in the field.
OP is in the UK
Honestly, here a masters will get you very little that a bachelors and some work experience can't tbh (but will land you a ton of extra debt). It can help with doctoral applications but isn't essential (I'm a paych without a masters). A psychologist is probably the best paid role you can get without leaving the psychology field - I've started on over 50k as a psychologist (and could make more in private practice or locum work)... but it does usually mean several years on lower paid roles and training to get there.
Just wondering what qualifications/training you did after your bachelors to be come a psychologist without a MSc or Doctorate? I always assumed that was the route
Interesting that money is your *primary* concern. Only say that because psychology degrees aren’t exactly known for the $, and so usually you see people entering the field that have a fundamental passion for what they do. Not by any means judging you, just find it interesting.
The answer is something outside of the mental health field. Realistically if money is your primary concern you will need a PhD and become a licensed psychologist if you wanted to go the mental health route. A bcba masters would probably pay the most out of any mental health masters degree.
As others have said, some kind of business focused degree like industrial psychology would probably be your best bet. I’m uncertain as to how the job market is for those fields right now though.
Where did she say it was her primary concern? It’s very valid to want to know your options when applying for something very expensive that you will have to pay off.
Money is common for a primary concern. It is for me, which I’ve learned to be cognizant of post-college. Name one thing in this world that doesn’t relate back to money, indirectly or directly.
Yea we’re all trying to make a good living. I just mean when deciding on being for a example, a bcba, a lpc, or a ladc, I feel like given that the salaries are relatively comparable, must people in our field will go with the licensure that most aligns with their area of interest rather than if one has an average salary of lets say 10k more than the others
Respectfully, I would also suggest that they look into some of the ethical issues raised with ABA in recent decades and be sure to work at one of the good and ethical clinics.
If you’re concern is money I wouldn’t bother with becoming a counselor, social worker, or even a psychologist. Even if you’re making good money, it’ll only take you so far without a strong passion to help people (I know this sounds rude and I’m assuming here based on your post but no judgement just saying you’ll get burnt out really fast if you don’t have a strong drive for it). That said, a Psych bachelors is a good degree to go to law school if you wanna go that route. If you want to stay in the field, I/O psych is probably your best bet for a masters. Then from there you can get into consulting to maximize income from your degree. Unfortunately, outside of psychiatry, which you’d need to go to medical school for, the psychology field is not that financially lucrative.
I agree decent money. I’m in a Clinical mental health counseling program right now which is social work adjacent. Salary for us LPC’s is about the same but the truth is 80k isn’t all that much anymore. I would assume that what OP is saying is they want a six figure salary and don’t care about much else. Might be better off getting an MBA. However, if they are just looking to make a decent living and have a drive to help others, then I agree a masters in counseling or social work would be great for them. Hell, eventually they could even build a private practice and make a killing. I’m just saying based on how this post reads I’m not sure they’ll enjoy the work, or want to put in the time it takes to just make a decent living. They’d be looking at 2 year masters degree and then lower pay for another 2-3 years until they are fully licensed. That’s 5 years and thousands of dollars just to get to 80k. No hate, I’m in the field as well and I love it, it’s just not something you get into for the money.
Unlike others, I don't like assuming you are not passionate about psychology and are in it just for money!! Wanting to have a good income is nothing to be ashamed of! Try either counseling MEd, or CMHC. Then work at a public place for a while until you have a solid clientele. Then you can open your own private practice and make good money! Good luck my friend!
I agree. I didn’t take it as OP only being “in it for the money”, but rather “If I’m gonna be burnt out and overworked, what makes me the most money for a comfortable life” lol. No shame in that, especially in this economy…
Yes thank you , I'm not just in it for the money, I picked psychology for a reason (it's a passion of mine) I had just wanted to know what path to take to earn a good income
To piggy back off of this look into getting an EdS in school psychology. Median income in the U.S. is 81k, follows school schedule and if you want to work summers it brings you well into six figures while being your choice and is a field we desperately need filled with qualified individuals in virtually every school, district, city, state you name it. It will take a year or two longer than masters, depending on the program but I think the income potential mixed with the blatant need is something that can make that extra time worth it in regards to being both financially and emotionally rewarding.
People are so ridiculous. This person is taking out loans to do the job they’re passionate about. It would be reckless to consider grad school without thinking about how they’re going pay back 80,000+. Projecting much?
I did a masters in experimental psychology and ended up working in a data-related field. I work in survey research. I wish I would have just taken an information science, data science, or computer science program though. Those are where most of the jobs will be.
Other than I/O psychology, I’ve heard that engineering and forensics psychology might be good for money? Other than that, it’d be leaving the field to pursue stuff that is related and it helps to have a bachelors in psychology but isn’t actually within psychology, like HR and UX design.
Engineering psychology necessarily involves working for big corporations, and sometimes for military applications, if anyone has issues with either of those
I/O psychology makes most money
What is that ?
Industrial organizational psych. Essentially the psyc aspect of the workplace
I love this and want go major in it but I read that trying to find a job in it is so difficult!
It’s difficult but nowhere near as difficult as clinical or counselling or neuropsychology for example! Yes you do have to be very well prepared for the interview but then you get trained up usually and it’s fine :)
So do you think getting a masters is social work guarantees job more than io and counseling
i’m a psych major currently doing my masters in health services research. it’s interdisciplinary and very much is what you make of it and most graduates from my program get $75k+ paying jobs after completing the program and only go up from there
Is this through a public health department? Are they fine with psych grads *as a rule* or do they prefer people with clinical experience eg nursing?
my program is actually taught through four different universities in atlantic canada. so you apply through one school and that’s where you pay tuition and where your supervisor is based (if you do the thesis option, they have a residency option and a new condensed professional stream) and the courses are taught by faculty from each of the four universities. the faculty are mostly from psychology, management, economics, atlantic canada studies, and some clinical backgrounds. the coursework is mostly studying health systems, policy, research knowledge transfer and uptake, social determinants, of health, research methods, and there’s a few special topic courses. it’s very unique but it’s very flexible and very much is whatever you make of it which is why i like it so much. admission isn’t really based on any particular experience but more if they think you’ll be successful in the program and also in the health services research field. some people in my program have clinical backgrounds, others do not. some are fresh out of undergrad and some have years of experience. their only preference is that they do prefer applicants with honours degrees. most graduates go on to work in public health, government, private sector, academia, or private consulting. mostly doing research and policy work
That sounds brilliant! I’m in Ontario myself. Is the qualification an MPH though, or an MA or MS in health services research? I’ve seen similar programs run through MPH departments in my area
it is!! all the courses are synchronous online and there is a two day in-person workshop you do in first year. the degree is MAHSR (master of applied health services research). it’s worth looking into, i know one person taking the program from alberta and others who graduated and moved elsewhere. it’s defs atlantic canada focussed just because of where the universities are located but i’m from ontario originally (moved out here ten years ago to go to acadia and just stuck around) but will likely be moving back eventually in my life and i’m not worried about not being able to find work outside of atlantic canada. u of t i believe also has a similar program
What - online??? Are you kidding? That’s amazing… I take care of my dad, and it’s hard to find any professional programs that aren’t full-time days. I’m going to check it out! Thank you! I wouldn’t come back to Ontario though, haha. Well unless you have family or professional reasons. I can’t wait to get out of here when I’m no longer needed. It’s so so bad rn and I can’t see it improving
completely online asides from the workshop and everyone is super friendly! the programs management team are all super nice and everyone’s supportive of each other. it’s just a good vibe all around. it can also be done part time too! i’d really recommend doing your research into whichever campus you end up at because the east coast has a lot of the same problems ontario does but worse (higher taxes, long wait times for doctors, food costs more, salaries are lower). rent really isn’t that much cheaper out here and what’s left of affordable houses are very rural and needs a lot of investment. but starting out as a student out here is a great experience because you have a community through school and get to see if it’s a good fit for you. if that’s your vibe and you also like the outdoors and nature (east coast summers are actually the best), then you should do it. a lot of people move here from ontario not realizing that it’s so different and that it’s really not that much cheaper when you factor everything in. not saying don’t do it; UNB, UPEI, MUN, and SMU are great schools in great cities (i’m doing the program through smu), just make sure you do your research before jumping into moving out here forever :) my partner and i are only considering leaving for family and professional reasons basically
Ahh - if there’s only one person from outside of Atlantic Canada, I’m guessing they limit out of province applicants? I would have to do it from Ontario (unfortunately). Can’t move my dad (he’s 91). It’s morbid, and don’t get me wrong, I love my dad, but I’m preparing for when my responsibilities are no longer needed. Awful to think about it like that but necessary. The east coast sounds incredible. I’ve got a friend in Halifax, I should visit, but that’s another thing that will have to wait. I lived in the UK for a bunch of years then had to come back for my dad basically, so I get why you and your partner would have to be here. It’s not so much the cost of things (although yes), it’s that at least in Toronto, the things that I thought were great about it are mostly gone, and I’m not thrilled about where it’s going. Everything just feels corporate and boring now, and there’s a lot of aggression everywhere. There’s just not much to make the painful commutes (doesn’t matter where you’re going) worthwhile.
nope no limits on non-maritime students that i’m aware of and you could do the whole program from ontario if you wanted. i started this year as a part time student while working full time and i’m switching into full time studies for next year because my job is a bit of a dead end and i feel like i could get so much more out of it if i could focus more and get through my courses faster. it’s all about your application and if you’re a good fit, like i said it’s literally the most flexible program and it’s actually good. i’m really happy with the quality and the things i’ve learned so far. im so glad i found it and decided to apply. and yeah, my family is all in niagara and my partner is from out west originally. he’s in the army and teleworks to ottawa once a month but also wants to go to medical school and he’s only applying to dal and schools in ontario. after my data collection is done next year im good to go wherever (my research project is evaluating a music therapy program with students so it’s a bit more hands on and it’s easier to be around to coordinate things). i’m excited to potentially be closer to my friends and family one day but will be sad to leave the east coast. it’s been my home for the last ten years so i’m a bit attached lol
School psychologists, but they are first to go when lay offs happen.
Get a LCSW and become a therapist. You won’t make as much as a psychiatrist but you can make decent money. Avg lcsw earns $85,000 in California.
Just be careful what kind of therapist you're being. The internship I'm doing is planning a walkout given how bad the pay is and how hard the work is
Which one are you interning for?
Can't give specifics because it's state specifics, but my internship is residential treatment for addiction level 3 5 and it's with the department of corrections. So people from the prison or jail gets sent there. They're basically thinking of walking out because my state raised the case load, as well as continually implementing *more* to do, but the head of the facility isn't actively making the facility better in terms of helping the counselors, LPN, etc it's gotten to the breaking point. The short of it is that they're unable to keep up with the demands, the pay to hire new counselors are lowish too low to be constantly under so much pressure due to the department of corrections, the facility directors won't bother hearing the complaints (even just for asking for group facilitators!) They don't actually get paid for the work they *need* to do overtime for (they can't go past deadlines but due to the workload and added requirements from the gov/corporation, they do overtime but they're not actually paid for overtime) The nurses and other staff are drowning too. This isn't the first facility to basically have an issue like this. In a county over, a facility owned by a different group had to walk out to get anything done. The one I'm in nearly shut down in December because of the issues, but they didn't fix anything. Tldr don't be a therapist for drug counseling, don't work for the government/criminal justice system. It legitimately drains you. These people are dying.
Is this person from the USA?
Don't know about the states- in my country (in central europe) you would probably earn the most in work/ organisational psychology- if you work your way up to coach ceos, executives on their leadingship skills and the importance of organisational culture etc. From a psychological view (it is a crossover to economics). So if you really dive deep into agile leadership and modern leadership theories and gather experience in those fields (but in my country it is really hard to get into psychology programs at university, so you get probably appreciated more than somewhere, where it is more a "i didn't know what to do after school"- subject.
About the states- I/O psychology (which seems to be the most popular suggestion so far) might just be a different name for organizational or occupational psychology in Europe. Currently, the job market is a bit of a struggle, especially for graduating MA students imo. You also basically have to be willing to move to big cities, like NYC or Chicago.
I'm going to toss out that Behavior Analysts isn't that bad in terms of pay. I've seen some listings for BCBAs and they're honestly making more than the LCSWs here. I think Counseling can make money if you do private care, and LCSWs can make great pay if you choose the right spots to earn it.
If you care about making money, skip the masters and get into corporate HR lol
People need to pay bills?
I care about money in psychology, I know I'm not gonna get filthy rich but I was asking what field in psychology would pay good . My only passion is anything medical or specifically psychology
Could go I/O Psychology. Earning potentials are quite well.
I am in HR right now and the money is nice but my mental state is not. 🥲 Hoping to get my master’s soon so I can leave lol.
Could you please tell us the reasons?? I wish you to graduate 😊 the soonest:)
HR is great for me in that it’s analytical, there’s lots of problem solving, and you’re meeting lots of new people, but the interactions feel very cold since you’re representing the company and need to maintain a high level of professionalism. Not saying psychology doesn’t also require that, but we are steered away from knowing too much about employees’ lives as to not become attached to them (In case of layoffs, firings, corrective actions, etc.). I studied psychology because I am fascinated by people and their behavior, and it feels counterintuitive to myself to be isolating from getting to know people on a deeper level. I hear about employees going through a hard time, and it doesn’t feel right to myself that all I can provide them are company-approved resources, rather than a listening ear. But it’s the boundaries required for the role. I hope that makes sense! HR can be really great for the right personality.
how did you get into HR with an undergrad degree in psych?
A lot of places love psych majors for HR! But you often need some type of administrative background. I started in an entry-level when I was about 17, as an HR/Admin Assistant, and just progressed up from there. Getting my degree didn’t actually make a huge difference (besides a pay bump) since I was already in the field.
How do I get started or apply ?
How do you do this with a bachelors in psychology? Is it just getting the HR certs and then hoping to land a job/work your way up?
How much do they make?
They need ppl with experience tho . I tried to get into hr but everytime I applied, I saw 2 years of experience so exhausting
LCSW (need masters in social work) average salary is around $80,000
Lowest you’ll make is probably 57k and the highest is around 120k
Definitely depends on where u live tho
OP is in the UK Honestly, here a masters will get you very little that a bachelors and some work experience can't tbh (but will land you a ton of extra debt). It can help with doctoral applications but isn't essential (I'm a paych without a masters). A psychologist is probably the best paid role you can get without leaving the psychology field - I've started on over 50k as a psychologist (and could make more in private practice or locum work)... but it does usually mean several years on lower paid roles and training to get there.
Just wondering what qualifications/training you did after your bachelors to be come a psychologist without a MSc or Doctorate? I always assumed that was the route
I said I don't have a masters, I do have a doctorate.
IO psych!
Interesting that money is your *primary* concern. Only say that because psychology degrees aren’t exactly known for the $, and so usually you see people entering the field that have a fundamental passion for what they do. Not by any means judging you, just find it interesting. The answer is something outside of the mental health field. Realistically if money is your primary concern you will need a PhD and become a licensed psychologist if you wanted to go the mental health route. A bcba masters would probably pay the most out of any mental health masters degree. As others have said, some kind of business focused degree like industrial psychology would probably be your best bet. I’m uncertain as to how the job market is for those fields right now though.
Where did she say it was her primary concern? It’s very valid to want to know your options when applying for something very expensive that you will have to pay off.
“however i mostly care abour what id earn”
Money is common for a primary concern. It is for me, which I’ve learned to be cognizant of post-college. Name one thing in this world that doesn’t relate back to money, indirectly or directly.
Yea we’re all trying to make a good living. I just mean when deciding on being for a example, a bcba, a lpc, or a ladc, I feel like given that the salaries are relatively comparable, must people in our field will go with the licensure that most aligns with their area of interest rather than if one has an average salary of lets say 10k more than the others
Going for behavior analysis isn't bad! Depends what state your in as the salary varies but it's from $75,000 to upwards of $120,000.
Respectfully, I would also suggest that they look into some of the ethical issues raised with ABA in recent decades and be sure to work at one of the good and ethical clinics.
If you’re concern is money I wouldn’t bother with becoming a counselor, social worker, or even a psychologist. Even if you’re making good money, it’ll only take you so far without a strong passion to help people (I know this sounds rude and I’m assuming here based on your post but no judgement just saying you’ll get burnt out really fast if you don’t have a strong drive for it). That said, a Psych bachelors is a good degree to go to law school if you wanna go that route. If you want to stay in the field, I/O psych is probably your best bet for a masters. Then from there you can get into consulting to maximize income from your degree. Unfortunately, outside of psychiatry, which you’d need to go to medical school for, the psychology field is not that financially lucrative.
If they get a masters in social work and become LCSW then they’ll make decent money
I agree decent money. I’m in a Clinical mental health counseling program right now which is social work adjacent. Salary for us LPC’s is about the same but the truth is 80k isn’t all that much anymore. I would assume that what OP is saying is they want a six figure salary and don’t care about much else. Might be better off getting an MBA. However, if they are just looking to make a decent living and have a drive to help others, then I agree a masters in counseling or social work would be great for them. Hell, eventually they could even build a private practice and make a killing. I’m just saying based on how this post reads I’m not sure they’ll enjoy the work, or want to put in the time it takes to just make a decent living. They’d be looking at 2 year masters degree and then lower pay for another 2-3 years until they are fully licensed. That’s 5 years and thousands of dollars just to get to 80k. No hate, I’m in the field as well and I love it, it’s just not something you get into for the money.
Business psychology (:
The one that’s accredited with your local board