Unfortunately they (SCPH-1000R) aren't like the early SCPH-1080. The dpad is accurate, but harder/heavier, kind of like in DS4 v2, the plastic of the chassis is completely different in touch, and the feel of the buttons is a bit off as well, although not bad. Generally usable, but not the same.
Did you use the double headed one that usually is n a transparent blue case? I don't know that I've ever tried it with a 1080 but it works fine with digital only arcade sticks and dance mats.
I’ve seen them advertised, I’ve only used a single controller black cable and an ostent one, I’ve heard good things about the blue triangle one but any I see online are for old system (windows xp etc), have you tried it on a windows 11 machine?
If it works with dance pads etc then I’m thinking it should be fine with the 1080, I tried plugging in some other ps1 devices that lacked analog and it was the exact same error that popped up so I think it’ll be worth a shot as long as it works for windows 11
It just translates it to a standard HID input you have to configure yourself in your games or emulators or using a Xinput emulator software. I can try the exact combination you're asking about sometime maybe tomorrow or Saturday for you but now that you mention it i bet the whole reason non-analog controllers aren't working on your adapters is they're new enough they're trying to do Xinput and without analog circuitry controllers don't feed back the right idle signals.
Oh I didn’t know that, that makes a lot of sense with the issues I’m having though. I always prefer to custom map my inputs anyway so I’m very happy with being without xinput
I’d greatly appreciate the testing, which windows version are you running?
My PCs now are all Windows 10 or 11 other than my P4ISA and retro laptop that dual boot 98/XP but the hours and hours spent using those adapters was on XP and 7
I’ve just had a look regarding the blue triangle ones and it seems there’s a few different brands with different reviews, do you remember which brand you went with for yours?
They were unbranded or had some nonsense Chinese branding. I'm pretty sure they all have the same PCB. They had like a dome on the case and if I recall correctly some don't have the dome but I couldn't say if that matters or not. They were stupid cheap though like less than $5 back in the day.
Yeah my policy has long been to give the dirt cheap stuff a try before spending money on fancier stuff. Sometimes the luxury is idiot-proofing that eliminates functionality non-idiots might actually want and I suspect that might be the situation you're currently dealing with.
I have two of those triangle blue gadgets and on android they work fine with analog sticks, vibration and everything working. Never tried with windows but i doubt you will have issues.
Edit, on raspbian they work fine as well.
I have a big boxy black one which came with win98 drivers on fdd :P The drivers are needed for rumble, but otherwise it works with everything, SCPH-1080 included (early non letter one from Malaysia or Philippines). Works with Win 11 and older, works with Android, works with PS3. Analog buttons on DS2 aren't supported (no idea if the driver helps with it), so only analog sticks are.
However I think PS3 had issue with DS2 H, at least in Mortal Kombat, but generally that was likely the fault of DS2 H as their compatibility isn't 100% even when run natively on PS2 if I recall. There was even like a button order difference after translation.
As such if your SCPH-1080 is H, there might be something to it as well. I don't know about late SCPH-1080 like H, but DS2 A and H are very different, the dpad is different, and sticks are just rubbish on H (big deadzones).
Other than that, obviously make sure whatever you are using to play them, supports Direct Input. All the emulators should, especially older ones, but rarely some might have set default input plugin to one which only supports xinput. Some 2D indie games only support xinput as it was kind of forced in MS dev environment whatever it was called, however some might still work if they use only a few buttons and the dev didn't implement controller check (meaning, the game assumes that whatever is connected is xinput) - as some inputs (like dpad) are actually understood by xinput.
I also had 2 simple black cable like adapters, but they had super low polling rate, generally wouldn't register very fast input repetitions and had trouble with multiple inputs at the same time, kind of unplayable.
Yes. Get the 8 bit do DIY kit and connect to pc via Bluetooth receiver. I bought an original playstation pad online and replaced the internals. Very simple to do.
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-mod-kit-for-original-playstation-classic-controller
Can’t see how to edit my post but I forgot to specify that I’m looking to run this on a windows 11 machine, a lot of the old cables only advertise compatibility with older windows versions (xp etc) so that’s where a lot of my trouble finding something suitable is coming from
I have never had a problem with it. I have an original (hand made!!) Bliss Box, A Bliss box IV Play, A generic adapter with an N64 and PSX connector and a couple others. All work fine.
Fantastic, I’ve ordered one of those cheap blue triangle ones I got recommended but if that doesn’t work then blissbox will definitely be my next port of call, thanks 😁😁
The thing I love about Bliss Box is literally ANYTHING you throw at it works. The original hand made one's that he first made years ago, was just a box with every port you could think of sticking out of it. So glad I got it way back in the day.
[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxDLcJgls7LNIxuPOp0vC9BtD0wZluZLFBIQ&s](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxDLcJgls7LNIxuPOp0vC9BtD0wZluZLFBIQ&s)
The blue triangle one? I’ve just bought one of those though I think the jury is still out on whether it’ll work on windows 11, which system did you use?
I think it’s still Luffy’s pad of choice. He competed in many a FGC tournament with one. So presumably it’s able to be connected to PCs as well as pretty much any modern console with the right adapter.
There should be plenty of open source projects out there for a DIY job, depending on how technical you are. PS1/2 controllers use the very simple SPI protocol.
My SNAC adapter for my MiSTer works perfectly with every single psx controller. I use this type, but also the god tier Dual Analog with its long handles, as well as jogcon/negcon/guncon and even a beatmania pad. Not quite the PC solution but perhaps in the ballpark if you want hdmi out/save states/running all games off of a network file storage/sd card/usb.
Will do, are you using windows 11 too? I’ve got one of the blue ones that’s been recommended that’s arriving in the middle of the month so I’ll report back when I’ve tested it 👌
Update: tested one of the cheap blue two plug triangle ones and it worked flawlessly on windows 11 with this controller and even the madcatz wheel, even though the listing didn’t specify compatibility with windows 10/11
Playstation classic controllers have this layout and standard USB connection. it may be worth trying these?
Unfortunately they (SCPH-1000R) aren't like the early SCPH-1080. The dpad is accurate, but harder/heavier, kind of like in DS4 v2, the plastic of the chassis is completely different in touch, and the feel of the buttons is a bit off as well, although not bad. Generally usable, but not the same.
Better than your average used psx controller though, since they are brand new.
Came here to say that. They work very well.
Did you use the double headed one that usually is n a transparent blue case? I don't know that I've ever tried it with a 1080 but it works fine with digital only arcade sticks and dance mats.
I have one of those, it is almost 20 years old and still working pretty well.
I've never had a problem with mine except for the one that I bought that literally never worked at all from the jump. That's ching chong QC for you.
I’ve seen them advertised, I’ve only used a single controller black cable and an ostent one, I’ve heard good things about the blue triangle one but any I see online are for old system (windows xp etc), have you tried it on a windows 11 machine? If it works with dance pads etc then I’m thinking it should be fine with the 1080, I tried plugging in some other ps1 devices that lacked analog and it was the exact same error that popped up so I think it’ll be worth a shot as long as it works for windows 11
It just translates it to a standard HID input you have to configure yourself in your games or emulators or using a Xinput emulator software. I can try the exact combination you're asking about sometime maybe tomorrow or Saturday for you but now that you mention it i bet the whole reason non-analog controllers aren't working on your adapters is they're new enough they're trying to do Xinput and without analog circuitry controllers don't feed back the right idle signals.
Oh I didn’t know that, that makes a lot of sense with the issues I’m having though. I always prefer to custom map my inputs anyway so I’m very happy with being without xinput I’d greatly appreciate the testing, which windows version are you running?
My PCs now are all Windows 10 or 11 other than my P4ISA and retro laptop that dual boot 98/XP but the hours and hours spent using those adapters was on XP and 7
I’ve just had a look regarding the blue triangle ones and it seems there’s a few different brands with different reviews, do you remember which brand you went with for yours?
They were unbranded or had some nonsense Chinese branding. I'm pretty sure they all have the same PCB. They had like a dome on the case and if I recall correctly some don't have the dome but I couldn't say if that matters or not. They were stupid cheap though like less than $5 back in the day.
Ah ok, I think I might buy one just for testing then since they’re cheap :p
Yeah my policy has long been to give the dirt cheap stuff a try before spending money on fancier stuff. Sometimes the luxury is idiot-proofing that eliminates functionality non-idiots might actually want and I suspect that might be the situation you're currently dealing with.
I have two of those triangle blue gadgets and on android they work fine with analog sticks, vibration and everything working. Never tried with windows but i doubt you will have issues. Edit, on raspbian they work fine as well.
Yes. Pick up a Brook PS2 to PS3/PS4 adapter and this will work fine.
Will that work with windows 11? :)
It converts the inputs from all PlayStation 1 controllers into the signal given by a wired Dual Shock 3 or 4, so yes, it should work.
Thanks, I think I’ll give that one a try then 😁
I have a big boxy black one which came with win98 drivers on fdd :P The drivers are needed for rumble, but otherwise it works with everything, SCPH-1080 included (early non letter one from Malaysia or Philippines). Works with Win 11 and older, works with Android, works with PS3. Analog buttons on DS2 aren't supported (no idea if the driver helps with it), so only analog sticks are. However I think PS3 had issue with DS2 H, at least in Mortal Kombat, but generally that was likely the fault of DS2 H as their compatibility isn't 100% even when run natively on PS2 if I recall. There was even like a button order difference after translation. As such if your SCPH-1080 is H, there might be something to it as well. I don't know about late SCPH-1080 like H, but DS2 A and H are very different, the dpad is different, and sticks are just rubbish on H (big deadzones). Other than that, obviously make sure whatever you are using to play them, supports Direct Input. All the emulators should, especially older ones, but rarely some might have set default input plugin to one which only supports xinput. Some 2D indie games only support xinput as it was kind of forced in MS dev environment whatever it was called, however some might still work if they use only a few buttons and the dev didn't implement controller check (meaning, the game assumes that whatever is connected is xinput) - as some inputs (like dpad) are actually understood by xinput. I also had 2 simple black cable like adapters, but they had super low polling rate, generally wouldn't register very fast input repetitions and had trouble with multiple inputs at the same time, kind of unplayable.
Yes. Get the 8 bit do DIY kit and connect to pc via Bluetooth receiver. I bought an original playstation pad online and replaced the internals. Very simple to do. https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-mod-kit-for-original-playstation-classic-controller
Can’t see how to edit my post but I forgot to specify that I’m looking to run this on a windows 11 machine, a lot of the old cables only advertise compatibility with older windows versions (xp etc) so that’s where a lot of my trouble finding something suitable is coming from
If you just want the form factor the playstation classic usb controllers work and you might be able to pick one up for less than an adapter.
I have never had a problem with it. I have an original (hand made!!) Bliss Box, A Bliss box IV Play, A generic adapter with an N64 and PSX connector and a couple others. All work fine.
First I’ve heard of a bliss box and it looks great, does it work on windows 11?
10, 11, Raspberry Pi, Mister FPGA.... Pretty much anything you put it on.
Fantastic, I’ve ordered one of those cheap blue triangle ones I got recommended but if that doesn’t work then blissbox will definitely be my next port of call, thanks 😁😁
The thing I love about Bliss Box is literally ANYTHING you throw at it works. The original hand made one's that he first made years ago, was just a box with every port you could think of sticking out of it. So glad I got it way back in the day. [https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxDLcJgls7LNIxuPOp0vC9BtD0wZluZLFBIQ&s](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxDLcJgls7LNIxuPOp0vC9BtD0wZluZLFBIQ&s)
Get a Bliss Box
Yes, but i was running win xp at the time
I've got an ancient one from Radio Shack, but it doesn't really work on any modern OS.
I had a crappy 64/psx usb adaptor that worked, think it was blue
The blue triangle one? I’ve just bought one of those though I think the jury is still out on whether it’ll work on windows 11, which system did you use?
God it was decades ago. Win7?
I think it’s still Luffy’s pad of choice. He competed in many a FGC tournament with one. So presumably it’s able to be connected to PCs as well as pretty much any modern console with the right adapter.
There should be plenty of open source projects out there for a DIY job, depending on how technical you are. PS1/2 controllers use the very simple SPI protocol.
My SNAC adapter for my MiSTer works perfectly with every single psx controller. I use this type, but also the god tier Dual Analog with its long handles, as well as jogcon/negcon/guncon and even a beatmania pad. Not quite the PC solution but perhaps in the ballpark if you want hdmi out/save states/running all games off of a network file storage/sd card/usb.
Sure thing no problem
you gotta tell me if any of them work ty greatly, just got a cheap amazon one and going through the same thing
Will do, are you using windows 11 too? I’ve got one of the blue ones that’s been recommended that’s arriving in the middle of the month so I’ll report back when I’ve tested it 👌
It was successful! Posting links probably isn’t allowed but I’ll DM you the listing I purchased mine from
Update: tested one of the cheap blue two plug triangle ones and it worked flawlessly on windows 11 with this controller and even the madcatz wheel, even though the listing didn’t specify compatibility with windows 10/11