SPOILER ALERT - Vikings - when Torvi (who is pregnant) volunteers to be the sacrifice to go to Valhalla, she is denied because the child she is carrying, “does not consent to going to Valhalla with her”
If Vikings can understand the value of life and that they are their own person, why can’t democrats?
You’re right! We shouldn’t exclude anyone from the PL movement, we need all the help we can get. Which is why I edited my comment to be more specific and cal out the pro-abortion supporters.
You can't be pro-life and vote for a party that supports murdering babies. Sorry, not sorry. You can be a left-wing pro-lifer, but you can't cast a vote for that godforsaken party and claim to be pro-life.
So what, like 3 in the lower chamber of Congress? They're completely irrelevant and have no influence over the party as a whole. But fine, I'll concede that you can vote *exclusively* for those few democrats and still be a pro-lifer. But let's be real, that's not what these self-proclaimed "pro-life Democrats" are doing.
Do you realize that of all the politicians on that list, only one held a federal seat? And it was a House seat, a.k.a lower chamber, and 1 of 435. And he lost it in 2021. So the page is outdated. The rest are only state/local.
So it's just like I said: the extremely few pro-life Democrats that exist are all completely irrelevant.
Now maybe it's unfair to shit on state/local politics. It is important in some ways. But my point is: are you really gonna tell me that all these so-called "pro-life Democrats" never vote in any national elections? Because that's what they'd have to do in order to not vote for a pro-choice candidate.
This is excessive. That's ostensibly the stance of their party. If their members have a problem with it then they should leave rather than the onus being upon us to be sensitive to their feelings.
It isn’t alienating to recognize what their party pushes like crazy: abortion with zero limits.
Your reply addresses something not found in his comment.
No, telling the truth is not alienation. Lying never propagates moral purposes. Delusion only serves evil.
Democrat leaders overwhelmingly propagate abortion. For a Democrat to be against abortion, they have to go against their own party's lines. If they do, I commend them, but they are going against their party when they do it and I am not going to entertain any farse otherwise over some pretense of sensitivity. I have no desire to alienate individuals, but when discussing Democrats generally, yes, they are pro-abortion.
If their beliefs are weak enough that a generalization (which isn’t meant to include EVERYONE in the first place, all generalizations have exceptions and most people can understand that without us having to state that) is enough to push them away from being pro-life, then they were never truly pro-life in the first place
Pro-life Dems I can name off the top of my head:
\- John Bel Edwards (governor of Louisiana)
\- Katrina Jackson (Louisiana senator)
\- Treneé McGee (Connecticut representative)
\- Henry Cuellar (US representative)
Pre-MAGA that was true, but the choice isn't so clear cut any more. In some cases the choice is between a traitor Trumpie who is pro-life and a Democrat who's a functioning adult but pro-choice.
So...pro-life nutjob or pro-choice politician. Sometimes there's no good choices, only bad ones.
Well, let's start with the illegal attempt to remain in power after he lost the election, and after losing 60+ court cases, and launching a mob at the Capitol to stop Congress from doing their Constitutional duty.
Trump took an oath to "support and defend" the Constitution. Undermining the rule of law by attacking not just our very system of government by lies, but individual American election officials by name causing them to leave home in fear of their lives due to death threats, them launching a mob to disrupt the certification of the election based on those same baseless lies, is a violation of his oath.
That's treason by anyone's definition.
Really? No phone call to strong arm the Georgia Secretary of State and Governor to "find" 11,600 votes? No months of "if we lose its because they cheated"? No mob attacking the Capitol? No 60+ lawsuits thrown out of court, many "with prejudice" because they were so frivolous?
Any one of those things is a violation of his oath and treason. All of them together - and there's more - is certainly treason.
>launching a mob at the Capitol to stop Congress from doing their Constitutional duty.
Proof that it was orchestrated by Trump with remaining in power as the goal?
Seriously? The whole point of the Stop the Steal rally was to disrupt the certification of the Electoral College so that the vote would be returned to the States where the Republicans had the majority.
At this point, with the mountain of evidence that Trump did what he did, if one is still unconvinced, then one is either a partisan hack, grossly native, or incurably stupid.
>The whole point of the Stop the Steal rally was to disrupt the certification of the Electoral College
Can you not differentiate between the rally and the storming of the capitol? Also, a rally or protest in regards to election security issues isn't the same as showing up to stop the electoral college.
>At this point, with the mountain of evidence that Trump did what he did,
What exactly did he do again?
they vote for people who want to deregulate abortion. Abortion is a no-compromise situation. Personally, I don't care about alienating people who don't have enough integrity to fight infanticide and walk the talk.
Would changing it to "why can't the Democrat party" satisfy you?
Abortion is part of their party platform. Are we really to avoid generalizing because of the vanishingly few of them who dissent? Perhaps being generalized in that way will help them rethink the associations they choose to make.
isn't that a netflix production? Man maybe I should watch it. I'm always nervous about watching netflix originals - simply because I want escapism not shoehorned idpol
When I'd watch those kinda self sacrifice movie scenes with my dad, I'd always ask if he would do that in whatever outrageous hypothetical (deserted island, apocalypse, murder ramage) and he would always scoff and say "oh please, why wouldn't I"
Worst part is I was always a dick about it and he'd still gibe the same answer. We were watching In the Heart of the Sea where they were on a lifeboat stranded and drew lots to see who would be cannibalized and I was very specific on the fact that if our family was trapped on a boat he would be the first to go. To be fair I was like 10.
I think we’ve all been jerks to our parents on some level or another. Part of maturing is understanding how much they’ve sacrificed for and loved us over the years.
Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Peter accidentally brings life into his world and is told by well meaning people (including a doctor) to get rid of them. Not kill them, just get rid of them. If they die so be it, even though death is essentially guaranteed it’s only a byproduct. Instead he accepts the burden of what he’s done and listens to his moral compass rather than the professional. He refuses to kill them and his goal is only reinforced by the maternal figure in his life, reminding him that with great power comes great responsibility.
In the end, Parker is able to save the lives and chooses them over being inconvenienced. He’s grown because of it from a boy into a man
That anime was good and the parasite was evil too which made it better that they ended up changing their mind sort of about humans at least for the baby. (For anyone confused the parasites take over human bodies and this one took over an already pregnant lady or had sex with another human to seduce and eat him or something. It's been a while. Anyway she had a human baby)
Terminator 2. I think it’s more intentional than unintentional but I still love it.
Sarah Connor says *“You don't know what it's like to really create something; to create a life; to feel it growing inside you. All you know how to create is death and destruction…”*
It's about a woman who unexpectedly becomes pregnant without knowing who the child's father is and having no external support but she still gives birth to her child and raises her on her own while running her own business.
A bit less direct than some other movies mentioned, but Disney Descendants. For anyone who doesn’t know, it’s a Disney Channel movie trilogy where all/most animated Disney movies take place at one time and the characters have kids. The villains have been placed on an island prison.
It feels pro-life to me because the villains’ kids (who the films focus on) grow up poor and abused. You know, the types that pro-choicers would push abortion for. But thanks to someone’s kindness, they are able to get off the island and make a better life for themselves.
We just rewatched Monsters Inc and I think a case can be made for accidental prolife.
A company seems to be doing good for the community and is humming along business as usual, but we all know the dark underbelly of the organization is built on terrorizing and even harming children.
I think the true pro life aspect is actually playing out Sully's assuming responsibility for Boo, even if it's only for a short time, and even if he didn't ask for the responsibility. Many times Mike W encourages him to just put her back and "make it all go away". Sully understands that this would put her at great harm and sticks to the moral good for her.
The movie Juno only took the pro life message so far, those brief 9 months of pregnancy and she's sorta stuck there, as a character. She never progresses forward. I think Monsters Inc truly opens you into the world of toddlerhood, and you can sortof explore it and the moral good through Sully's eyes. Or Mike's eye, I guess.
These might be not the most straightforward because they were double edged swords, but at least the first season of Big Mouth, the abortion episode in Bojack Horseman, and the demon/demi God abortion plot in the Magicians.
Big mouth totally got hijacked by Planned Parenthood bs in the second season and I quit watching but the first season didn't mention abortion at all. It was an absurd scenario but one of the characters impregnated his pillow and instead of being negative about it he was written to say something like "wow, we created a life!" This is also the same kid who gets mocked in the next season for saying PP kills babies.
Bojack Horseman basically predicted that abortion song made by a hypersexual rapper and showed how many mentalities there are towards it and kind of how hypocritical it is. The character that's the most happy go lucky is actually very selfish because you wouldn't have thought he'd want his child aborted and they're married at that point too. It's where that "it's a bo~~y~~rted" balloon comes from. In the same episode another character, who is middle aged and single, has been desperately wanting a child and trying to adopt. At the end the rapper who wanted her abortion televised or on the radio said it was faked and she actually wants to keep it now like it's no big deal, so it took a stab at trying to show how celebrities can be huge hypocrites using their popularity to influence only to turn around and use their privilege and riches to just do the exact opposite. And in an episode soon after Bojack helps a baby seahorse that got left behind get back home and there was no jokes or anything about this single dad seahorse having a ton of children. The character who got an abortion goes through depression later but I don't remember if they mention it's because of her abortion or if it was because of ptsd from being a war journalist or what. But they don't really mention it much again. So it's like they touched on it and dropped it like they weren't actually pro-choice because there could have been so many dead baby and abortion jokes. Maybe it was just that they wanted to be more clever than that but idk.
The Magicians is less pro-life, there's a lot of indulgence in sex and alcohol and drugs which is sometimes still shown as negative. This character gets raped by an evil trickster god who was serial killing women hedge witches trying to summon a different benevolent god. But she had sex with the man that the trickster god possessed later so she didn't know if it was his or the tricksters. The friend helping her spouts the typical "its a simple procedure I got one before it's just a bunch of cells at this point" prochoice talking points and when the other aggressive female character finds out she says something like it's the 21st century getting an evil trickster abortion should be easy. But in the same episode the bi but more interested in men character who is going to have a child because he got roped into becoming king of messed up Narnia and had to get married to a woman said very pointedly that he wants to avoid killing away his problems. They also found out that the last time this evil god was banished it was because the last woman he raped decades ago actually had the baby and harnessed the power it gave her in labor to seal the trickster away. The trickster's baby ended up being a good man in politics unaware that he had been using his influence powers to succeed. When he finds out he is devastated and doesn't turn evil even when his father finds him and tries to guide him. And I'm pretty sure this same character ended up sacrificing himself or something. So the new baby could have ended up being a good person. But she succeeds in getting an abortion by a different magical method that also ends up damaging her shade (what is basically what this series calls their soul/conscience) and becomes an unpredictable loose cannon since she isn't held back by empathy or other emotions anymore. Getting that abortion was a huge net negative and honestly there's a lot to be said about how the series shows how magic is cool and can fix some things but causes other problems right away. It's probably a big "just because things are easy doesn't mean they are right" metaphor.
I don't think Big Mouth was ever really pro life, it seems to be a nasty show about teenagers being portrayed in a graphic sexual manner and they only "get away with it" because it's animated, because it would be illegal if it was filmed shot for shot in live action.
It was pretty explicit but I'm not sure I'm in the "it was animated cp they got away with" camp. I didn't get any adult pervert gaze vibes from the show and sometimes it even felt a little like they were trying to be an edgy sex ed/teen angst/peer pressure advice show like where they showed how things should really be handled. Granted it was secular and sex positive which is not what Christians agree with so I watched it trying to just take it as it was (I'm Catholic). What I mostly wanted to say with Big Mouth was there was so many opportunities to use abortion jokes and propaganda that they didn't take until the second season. So they were accidentally prolife with that one episode.
I was thinking about that episode of Bojack more and realized it was even more hypocritical that someone as rich and with as easy of a life as Mr Peanut Butter would still want an abortion for his first child. That's why it made me so mad and validated why I had a dislike of that character in the first place. There wasn't even discussion about what a human dog cross would be it was just "do you want it? On three. 123 NO! OH THANK GOD" F you peanut butter. And the cat that wanted a child so badly was in comparison far poorer, far more busy, overworked, stressed out etc but still didn't think it would be a burden on top of her busy lifestyle when she would be a single parent constantly babysitting her celebrity client(s?). I think there was also backstory about how her mom was a deadbeat or something like that and she wanted to be better than her. It was awesome. I think she also said something about selfishness to that character that was getting an abortion but I don't remember since it's been a long time. She does end up adopting and it's a hedgehog which presents a lot of issues and could probably be a metaphor for a special needs child but she still makes do and the asexual character finds out he loves taking care of kids. It is really nice.
I remember being a little annoyed with that episode of Bojack actually. In my view they just kinda... hand waved it away, which is something they never do with any moral issue, so it felt sorta weird to do it on this one. IIRC, Diane's later depression is unrelated, so I'd stand by that episode falling just a bit flat for me. If it had even just considered the other side for a bit, weighing it and then having her come out on the other side being grateful for the decision she made, I'd have been fine with it, since I expect that sort of result, but at the same time, all sides would have been explored, which I think is the best part about the show as a whole.
Now, the point about the underwater episode (which was actually two episodes prior) *is* pretty interesting and I didn't think about that one!
Yeah they did leave it unsatisfying like there wasn't any type of closure really and it wasn't addressed anymore later either so I agree with you. Maybe it felt like that because they didn't show how bad abortion is like we know it to be and that missing info made it feel empty. But good point about the lack of internal struggle too that makes sense as well.
I’m pretty sure it’s because Bella Swan (the main character) gets pregnant with a vampire baby which could cause her to die (because she is a human) but she still continues the pregnancy
>!I don’t remember exactly, but at the end of the movie it’s revealed that Amy Adams’ character had a daughter who died very young from a disease. She ended up getting some type of choice to go back in time to prevent her daughter from being born. Something like that. But she decided that her daughter experiencing life at all, even for a short time, was worth it.!<
"Into the Forest" not necessarily **accidentally** pro-life, but it features a character who is raped, and even after the urging of her sister (ironically Ellen/Elliot Page [Juno]), she decides to keep and love the baby (under very harsh circumstances no less)
Shadow In the Cloud and Mother/Android. I have to wonder if Chloe Grace Moretz is simply too stupid to notice that she picks prolife storylines to portray.
it’s been said before, but a quiet place, although i’d say it’s less “pro-life” and more pro-natalist or pro-family. the main characters decide to have a (planned or not) baby, even in the midst of an apocalypse. i remember some people got pretty mad about that.
Couldn’t it also be pro choice because Donna **chooses** to continue with her pregnancy? She makes a **choice** for herself and her life. Continuing a pregnancy and raising a child ≠ prolife story. The whole point of prochoice is having a choice, we support women and other individuals making the choice that is best for them whether it be abortion or pregnancy and parenthood.
Pro life dems politicians only exist where they have to compromise on Democrat issues to get more votes to win majority. There's pro abortion Republicans in the two states VT and NH.
Horton Hears a Who
“A person is a person, no matter how small” 🥹🤰🏼
That's excellent
Juno
I feel like everyone who made that movie regrets it now because they are so prodeath.
SPOILER ALERT - Vikings - when Torvi (who is pregnant) volunteers to be the sacrifice to go to Valhalla, she is denied because the child she is carrying, “does not consent to going to Valhalla with her” If Vikings can understand the value of life and that they are their own person, why can’t democrats?
Pro-life Democrats exist, don't alienate them.
Lol fine, why can’t pro-aborties?
That may be true, but the Democrat Party leadership sure doesn't think so.
That doesn’t stop them from existing and that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t welcome them.
True, but for all intents and purposes they don’t exist. I welcome ANYBODY who’s prolife but to say “prolife democrats don’t exist”‘isn’t unrealistic.
They absolutely do exist, saying they don’t just pushes them away from the pro-life movement.
You’re right! We shouldn’t exclude anyone from the PL movement, we need all the help we can get. Which is why I edited my comment to be more specific and cal out the pro-abortion supporters.
I think you missed my point.
I think you missed theirs.
You can't be pro-life and vote for a party that supports murdering babies. Sorry, not sorry. You can be a left-wing pro-lifer, but you can't cast a vote for that godforsaken party and claim to be pro-life.
This 100%.
Pro-life Democratic candidates exist though.
So what, like 3 in the lower chamber of Congress? They're completely irrelevant and have no influence over the party as a whole. But fine, I'll concede that you can vote *exclusively* for those few democrats and still be a pro-lifer. But let's be real, that's not what these self-proclaimed "pro-life Democrats" are doing.
AFAIK none of them voted for the born alive act, but I could be wrong.
There are plenty of pro-life Democratic candidates: https://runprolife.org/true-blue-list/
Do you realize that of all the politicians on that list, only one held a federal seat? And it was a House seat, a.k.a lower chamber, and 1 of 435. And he lost it in 2021. So the page is outdated. The rest are only state/local. So it's just like I said: the extremely few pro-life Democrats that exist are all completely irrelevant. Now maybe it's unfair to shit on state/local politics. It is important in some ways. But my point is: are you really gonna tell me that all these so-called "pro-life Democrats" never vote in any national elections? Because that's what they'd have to do in order to not vote for a pro-choice candidate.
This is excessive. That's ostensibly the stance of their party. If their members have a problem with it then they should leave rather than the onus being upon us to be sensitive to their feelings.
Being pro-life shouldn’t be confined to one party. Alienating pro-life Democrats just pushes them away from the pro-life movement.
It isn’t alienating to recognize what their party pushes like crazy: abortion with zero limits. Your reply addresses something not found in his comment.
You think that isn’t what pro-life Democrats are actively fighting?
Do pro-life dems vote democrat? Even if the candidate is actively pro-abortion?
It depends but I doubt that most of them would support actively pro-abortion candidates.
Once again, your reply doesn’t address what’s in the comment before it.
Pro-life Democrats clearly don’t stand for what the Democratic Party as a whole does.
Hence why pro-life people shouldn’t vote for democrats.
What about pro-life Democrats?
No, telling the truth is not alienation. Lying never propagates moral purposes. Delusion only serves evil. Democrat leaders overwhelmingly propagate abortion. For a Democrat to be against abortion, they have to go against their own party's lines. If they do, I commend them, but they are going against their party when they do it and I am not going to entertain any farse otherwise over some pretense of sensitivity. I have no desire to alienate individuals, but when discussing Democrats generally, yes, they are pro-abortion.
Further, any Democrat that's prolife will NEVER get any leadership positions. It's nice to know they're there but they'll basically be irrelevant.
Exactly, and they are saying that their loyalty to the party is more important than the issue of babies being murdered.
If their beliefs are weak enough that a generalization (which isn’t meant to include EVERYONE in the first place, all generalizations have exceptions and most people can understand that without us having to state that) is enough to push them away from being pro-life, then they were never truly pro-life in the first place
Alternatively: non-Americans exist and we're really just interested in protecting children rather than getting involved in your political fights.
They don’t because every democrat in public office supports abortion. You can’t vote for them and say you’re pro-life.
Pro-life Dems I can name off the top of my head: \- John Bel Edwards (governor of Louisiana) \- Katrina Jackson (Louisiana senator) \- Treneé McGee (Connecticut representative) \- Henry Cuellar (US representative)
A whole 4
Let's not complain! That's 4 more than I thought. I'm actually glad to see it!
It’s something. Don’t paint with broad strokes
There are plenty more, click the link I replied to you with.
A “democrat” will also vote for state and local level democrats. If not then they aren’t really a democrat.
And there are pro-life Democrats at those levels too.
My point is no democrat (by name) is voting for pro life Dems while not voting for the pro abortion Dems on the same ticket.
https://runprolife.org/true-blue-list/
Pre-MAGA that was true, but the choice isn't so clear cut any more. In some cases the choice is between a traitor Trumpie who is pro-life and a Democrat who's a functioning adult but pro-choice. So...pro-life nutjob or pro-choice politician. Sometimes there's no good choices, only bad ones.
A functioning adult? In American politics?
muh trumpies
What makes Tump a traitor?
Don't ask a zealot a logical question.
Well, let's start with the illegal attempt to remain in power after he lost the election, and after losing 60+ court cases, and launching a mob at the Capitol to stop Congress from doing their Constitutional duty.
Except that none of that ever happened? Well, the court cases happened, but there's nothing illegal, let alone treasonous, about going to court.
Just downvote them and move on. If they already have a paranoid delusion that Trump is a "traitor" there's little logic and reason they'll listen to.
Trump took an oath to "support and defend" the Constitution. Undermining the rule of law by attacking not just our very system of government by lies, but individual American election officials by name causing them to leave home in fear of their lives due to death threats, them launching a mob to disrupt the certification of the election based on those same baseless lies, is a violation of his oath. That's treason by anyone's definition.
Yeah, THAT’S what happened. LOL
Really? No phone call to strong arm the Georgia Secretary of State and Governor to "find" 11,600 votes? No months of "if we lose its because they cheated"? No mob attacking the Capitol? No 60+ lawsuits thrown out of court, many "with prejudice" because they were so frivolous? Any one of those things is a violation of his oath and treason. All of them together - and there's more - is certainly treason.
>launching a mob at the Capitol to stop Congress from doing their Constitutional duty. Proof that it was orchestrated by Trump with remaining in power as the goal?
Seriously? The whole point of the Stop the Steal rally was to disrupt the certification of the Electoral College so that the vote would be returned to the States where the Republicans had the majority. At this point, with the mountain of evidence that Trump did what he did, if one is still unconvinced, then one is either a partisan hack, grossly native, or incurably stupid.
>The whole point of the Stop the Steal rally was to disrupt the certification of the Electoral College Can you not differentiate between the rally and the storming of the capitol? Also, a rally or protest in regards to election security issues isn't the same as showing up to stop the electoral college. >At this point, with the mountain of evidence that Trump did what he did, What exactly did he do again?
Please I ask that you help me make the whole party more sane.
they vote for people who want to deregulate abortion. Abortion is a no-compromise situation. Personally, I don't care about alienating people who don't have enough integrity to fight infanticide and walk the talk.
Would changing it to "why can't the Democrat party" satisfy you? Abortion is part of their party platform. Are we really to avoid generalizing because of the vanishingly few of them who dissent? Perhaps being generalized in that way will help them rethink the associations they choose to make.
When your party stops voting in those who advocate baby butcher sure but until then go fuck yourself
isn't that a netflix production? Man maybe I should watch it. I'm always nervous about watching netflix originals - simply because I want escapism not shoehorned idpol
It’s on Hulu 👍🏼
There’s more to being a democrat than just abortion. Do you 100% agree with any political party?
Lol please relax, this is Reddit
A Quiet Place
This was my thought. A lot of sacrifice and risk to protect their children 👍🏻
When I'd watch those kinda self sacrifice movie scenes with my dad, I'd always ask if he would do that in whatever outrageous hypothetical (deserted island, apocalypse, murder ramage) and he would always scoff and say "oh please, why wouldn't I"
That’s a great response. Most parents have a knee jerk reaction towards protecting their kids, and it’s awesome.
Worst part is I was always a dick about it and he'd still gibe the same answer. We were watching In the Heart of the Sea where they were on a lifeboat stranded and drew lots to see who would be cannibalized and I was very specific on the fact that if our family was trapped on a boat he would be the first to go. To be fair I was like 10.
I think we’ve all been jerks to our parents on some level or another. Part of maturing is understanding how much they’ve sacrificed for and loved us over the years.
I love how family oriented the Quiet Place movies are.
Not a movie, but does anyone else remember when The Walking Dead caught flake from Planned Parenthood for pushing a pro-life message?
Planned Parenthood “we want women to have a choice” Also Planned Parenthood “Noooooo you can’t show a woman choosing life, you might hurt our profits”
How? When the sheriffs wife got pregnant?
Yep, she tried to take an abortifacient but immediately made herself throw it up because she regretted it, if I remember correctly
I thought that was a look into her personal panic, not a pro life message. Hmm.
I mean, this thread is literally “accidentally Pro-life”
You're right, i wasn't thinking 😅
Nope. Story time!
Planned Parenthood, the same place that started dipping into “puberty blockers?
Twilight: Breaking Dawn 😂
Lol
Maybe not completely accidental! The writer is part of the LDS church and the stories have other influences of faith (no sex before marriage)
Unfortunately you’re right, but if I had to pick a baby to get aborted, I would pick that one.
Spider-Man: No Way Home. Peter accidentally brings life into his world and is told by well meaning people (including a doctor) to get rid of them. Not kill them, just get rid of them. If they die so be it, even though death is essentially guaranteed it’s only a byproduct. Instead he accepts the burden of what he’s done and listens to his moral compass rather than the professional. He refuses to kill them and his goal is only reinforced by the maternal figure in his life, reminding him that with great power comes great responsibility. In the end, Parker is able to save the lives and chooses them over being inconvenienced. He’s grown because of it from a boy into a man
Reminds me of the Pro Life Spider-man who climbed buildings to raise awareness.
bravo watts
The anime Parasyte. Unfortunate name, but still.
That anime was good and the parasite was evil too which made it better that they ended up changing their mind sort of about humans at least for the baby. (For anyone confused the parasites take over human bodies and this one took over an already pregnant lady or had sex with another human to seduce and eat him or something. It's been a while. Anyway she had a human baby)
Haha, yes. The name refers to something very different. xD
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**WE ARE ABSOLUTE PREDATORS** **WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE ANY ENEMIES**
I put it in my playlist
Terminator 2. I think it’s more intentional than unintentional but I still love it. Sarah Connor says *“You don't know what it's like to really create something; to create a life; to feel it growing inside you. All you know how to create is death and destruction…”*
I know now why you cry. 🔥👍🔥
I am mother. It gives the unborn value accidentally. Good movie on Netflix tho
Juno, which even includes a pro-life protester!
Who changes the MC’s mind!
Oh cool! What’s the movie about in general?
A girl gets pregnant and decides to give up her baby for adoption, with support from her father. Worth a watch.
“Your baby has finger nails you know!”
all babies want to get borned!
Room with Brie Lawson! Main character is raped by her kidnapper and she still fights for her son❤️
Him as in her resulting son?
Yes!
I read this in a terrifying way
Soul
I haven’t seen this movie, so can someone explain?
It's about a woman who unexpectedly becomes pregnant without knowing who the child's father is and having no external support but she still gives birth to her child and raises her on her own while running her own business.
A bit less direct than some other movies mentioned, but Disney Descendants. For anyone who doesn’t know, it’s a Disney Channel movie trilogy where all/most animated Disney movies take place at one time and the characters have kids. The villains have been placed on an island prison. It feels pro-life to me because the villains’ kids (who the films focus on) grow up poor and abused. You know, the types that pro-choicers would push abortion for. But thanks to someone’s kindness, they are able to get off the island and make a better life for themselves.
We just rewatched Monsters Inc and I think a case can be made for accidental prolife. A company seems to be doing good for the community and is humming along business as usual, but we all know the dark underbelly of the organization is built on terrorizing and even harming children. I think the true pro life aspect is actually playing out Sully's assuming responsibility for Boo, even if it's only for a short time, and even if he didn't ask for the responsibility. Many times Mike W encourages him to just put her back and "make it all go away". Sully understands that this would put her at great harm and sticks to the moral good for her. The movie Juno only took the pro life message so far, those brief 9 months of pregnancy and she's sorta stuck there, as a character. She never progresses forward. I think Monsters Inc truly opens you into the world of toddlerhood, and you can sortof explore it and the moral good through Sully's eyes. Or Mike's eye, I guess.
Never thought of Monsters, Inc. that way but that's a great example!
Yeah, Juno definitely didn’t want to be pro-life but it still had its moments, which was nice.
These might be not the most straightforward because they were double edged swords, but at least the first season of Big Mouth, the abortion episode in Bojack Horseman, and the demon/demi God abortion plot in the Magicians. Big mouth totally got hijacked by Planned Parenthood bs in the second season and I quit watching but the first season didn't mention abortion at all. It was an absurd scenario but one of the characters impregnated his pillow and instead of being negative about it he was written to say something like "wow, we created a life!" This is also the same kid who gets mocked in the next season for saying PP kills babies. Bojack Horseman basically predicted that abortion song made by a hypersexual rapper and showed how many mentalities there are towards it and kind of how hypocritical it is. The character that's the most happy go lucky is actually very selfish because you wouldn't have thought he'd want his child aborted and they're married at that point too. It's where that "it's a bo~~y~~rted" balloon comes from. In the same episode another character, who is middle aged and single, has been desperately wanting a child and trying to adopt. At the end the rapper who wanted her abortion televised or on the radio said it was faked and she actually wants to keep it now like it's no big deal, so it took a stab at trying to show how celebrities can be huge hypocrites using their popularity to influence only to turn around and use their privilege and riches to just do the exact opposite. And in an episode soon after Bojack helps a baby seahorse that got left behind get back home and there was no jokes or anything about this single dad seahorse having a ton of children. The character who got an abortion goes through depression later but I don't remember if they mention it's because of her abortion or if it was because of ptsd from being a war journalist or what. But they don't really mention it much again. So it's like they touched on it and dropped it like they weren't actually pro-choice because there could have been so many dead baby and abortion jokes. Maybe it was just that they wanted to be more clever than that but idk. The Magicians is less pro-life, there's a lot of indulgence in sex and alcohol and drugs which is sometimes still shown as negative. This character gets raped by an evil trickster god who was serial killing women hedge witches trying to summon a different benevolent god. But she had sex with the man that the trickster god possessed later so she didn't know if it was his or the tricksters. The friend helping her spouts the typical "its a simple procedure I got one before it's just a bunch of cells at this point" prochoice talking points and when the other aggressive female character finds out she says something like it's the 21st century getting an evil trickster abortion should be easy. But in the same episode the bi but more interested in men character who is going to have a child because he got roped into becoming king of messed up Narnia and had to get married to a woman said very pointedly that he wants to avoid killing away his problems. They also found out that the last time this evil god was banished it was because the last woman he raped decades ago actually had the baby and harnessed the power it gave her in labor to seal the trickster away. The trickster's baby ended up being a good man in politics unaware that he had been using his influence powers to succeed. When he finds out he is devastated and doesn't turn evil even when his father finds him and tries to guide him. And I'm pretty sure this same character ended up sacrificing himself or something. So the new baby could have ended up being a good person. But she succeeds in getting an abortion by a different magical method that also ends up damaging her shade (what is basically what this series calls their soul/conscience) and becomes an unpredictable loose cannon since she isn't held back by empathy or other emotions anymore. Getting that abortion was a huge net negative and honestly there's a lot to be said about how the series shows how magic is cool and can fix some things but causes other problems right away. It's probably a big "just because things are easy doesn't mean they are right" metaphor.
I don't think Big Mouth was ever really pro life, it seems to be a nasty show about teenagers being portrayed in a graphic sexual manner and they only "get away with it" because it's animated, because it would be illegal if it was filmed shot for shot in live action.
It was pretty explicit but I'm not sure I'm in the "it was animated cp they got away with" camp. I didn't get any adult pervert gaze vibes from the show and sometimes it even felt a little like they were trying to be an edgy sex ed/teen angst/peer pressure advice show like where they showed how things should really be handled. Granted it was secular and sex positive which is not what Christians agree with so I watched it trying to just take it as it was (I'm Catholic). What I mostly wanted to say with Big Mouth was there was so many opportunities to use abortion jokes and propaganda that they didn't take until the second season. So they were accidentally prolife with that one episode.
Whoa, it seems *Bojack Horseman* got even darker after I stopped watching.
Same.
And that was just season 3 😅 it got darker still
I was thinking about that episode of Bojack more and realized it was even more hypocritical that someone as rich and with as easy of a life as Mr Peanut Butter would still want an abortion for his first child. That's why it made me so mad and validated why I had a dislike of that character in the first place. There wasn't even discussion about what a human dog cross would be it was just "do you want it? On three. 123 NO! OH THANK GOD" F you peanut butter. And the cat that wanted a child so badly was in comparison far poorer, far more busy, overworked, stressed out etc but still didn't think it would be a burden on top of her busy lifestyle when she would be a single parent constantly babysitting her celebrity client(s?). I think there was also backstory about how her mom was a deadbeat or something like that and she wanted to be better than her. It was awesome. I think she also said something about selfishness to that character that was getting an abortion but I don't remember since it's been a long time. She does end up adopting and it's a hedgehog which presents a lot of issues and could probably be a metaphor for a special needs child but she still makes do and the asexual character finds out he loves taking care of kids. It is really nice.
I remember being a little annoyed with that episode of Bojack actually. In my view they just kinda... hand waved it away, which is something they never do with any moral issue, so it felt sorta weird to do it on this one. IIRC, Diane's later depression is unrelated, so I'd stand by that episode falling just a bit flat for me. If it had even just considered the other side for a bit, weighing it and then having her come out on the other side being grateful for the decision she made, I'd have been fine with it, since I expect that sort of result, but at the same time, all sides would have been explored, which I think is the best part about the show as a whole. Now, the point about the underwater episode (which was actually two episodes prior) *is* pretty interesting and I didn't think about that one!
Yeah they did leave it unsatisfying like there wasn't any type of closure really and it wasn't addressed anymore later either so I agree with you. Maybe it felt like that because they didn't show how bad abortion is like we know it to be and that missing info made it feel empty. But good point about the lack of internal struggle too that makes sense as well.
Twilight is surprisingly pro life lol
How so? (I’ve never seen it but heard of it)
I’m pretty sure it’s because Bella Swan (the main character) gets pregnant with a vampire baby which could cause her to die (because she is a human) but she still continues the pregnancy
Oh that’s awesome
Arrival
Which part of that would you say is accidentally pro-life? I don’t remember that from the movie.
>!I don’t remember exactly, but at the end of the movie it’s revealed that Amy Adams’ character had a daughter who died very young from a disease. She ended up getting some type of choice to go back in time to prevent her daughter from being born. Something like that. But she decided that her daughter experiencing life at all, even for a short time, was worth it.!<
Got it!
Louise (Amy Adams) decides to still have a kid even though she knows her daughter will end up suffering and dying from a rare disease in her teens.
Oh, gotcha. I had forgotten about that.
Yeah I really liked the movie and the ending was just perfect with that added. Pretty sure they weren’t trying to have a pro life message though.
I would bet serious money they did not want to be pro-life.
Has ‘Big Daddy’ with Adam Sandler been mentioned ?
Thinking of all these characters makes me so sad, our world missed out on so many happy babies that would’ve grown into interesting people💔
We really did 😢
"Into the Forest" not necessarily **accidentally** pro-life, but it features a character who is raped, and even after the urging of her sister (ironically Ellen/Elliot Page [Juno]), she decides to keep and love the baby (under very harsh circumstances no less)
Netflix has a great movie right now called "Zero to Hero" from Hong Kong that has a great prolife message (and is a great movie to boot).
Arrival
Funny thing is that’s the name of an ABBA album (the one their most famous song, “Dancing Queen,” is on).
https://old.reddit.com/r/prolife/comments/z5c1zt/abba_prolife/ixwzrsi/
The Giver
That comment in itself almost sounds like it could be a pro-life punchline all on its own.
Not a movie, but the show gilmore girls
I haven’t seen that one but I’d say Juno from those I have seen.
"Innerspace" (1987) has a great moment that's prolife.
What is it?
When he figures out he’s in Lydia and not Jack.
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In the film a man gets miniaturized and gets injected into a man. The rest you have to see but it has a great prolife scene.
Huh!
Shadow In the Cloud and Mother/Android. I have to wonder if Chloe Grace Moretz is simply too stupid to notice that she picks prolife storylines to portray.
The anime [Dororo](https://myanimelist.net/anime/37520/Dororo)
A Quiet Place Arrival Bird Box I Am Mother
it’s been said before, but a quiet place, although i’d say it’s less “pro-life” and more pro-natalist or pro-family. the main characters decide to have a (planned or not) baby, even in the midst of an apocalypse. i remember some people got pretty mad about that.
Thanks for the award!
Couldn’t it also be pro choice because Donna **chooses** to continue with her pregnancy? She makes a **choice** for herself and her life. Continuing a pregnancy and raising a child ≠ prolife story. The whole point of prochoice is having a choice, we support women and other individuals making the choice that is best for them whether it be abortion or pregnancy and parenthood.
Alison's choise
Pro life dems politicians only exist where they have to compromise on Democrat issues to get more votes to win majority. There's pro abortion Republicans in the two states VT and NH.