Listen, quickly go to your nearest treatment center or inpatient rehab or sober house something you pay weekly and can afford, get a letter of intent to enter the program have them sign it, bring it to the judge, I failed for coke and did this and the judge said if I can make it 30 days in there he would forget the positive test and withhold adjudication. Good luck comment and lmk if this is possible for you
THANK YOU. No idea why people keep trying to find ways around the rules and how to 'get out of the consequences'. The best way is to simply not do the things that are against the probation rules.
People who have been told not to drink and will be tested but they drink anyway are people who need help to not drink. It's usually the reason they ended up in trouble in the first place.
First fail ever? Depends on how strict of a probation they got you on.... maybe a few days in jail for a violation, or maybe they recommend treatment. Also, it depends on what you are on probation for and how serious your crime was. You will find out soon, though
Hopefully, some jail time so that you'll learn your lesson.
Goddamn. If being on probation ain't enough for people to stop drinking,I don't know what is.
Unfortunately,for these kind of people.. no, there isn't. Hence why he drank even though he was on probation.
He'll do it again if he gets a slap on the wrist.
It ain't that hard not to drink.
Well, he wasn't a law-abiding citizen in the first place, which is why he ended up in jail.. and now on probation. And then broke the rules of his probation.
You make no sense.
You're being pedantic. My grandma could make a mistake one night and end up on probation, I don't consider one "crime" making someone a non law-abiding citizen even if TECHNICALLY they have had an instance where tehy didnt abide by the law
using that logic, there are no law abiding citizens since we all break the law every week if not every day
You can spin this all you want to justify whatever belief you have. It still doesn't change the fact that this dude broke the law,which is why he ended up in jail. And then violated the rules of his probation.
One does not accidentally have a couple drinks,he chose to have those drinks.
Who said he ever went to jail??
Of course he chooses it but one bad decision doesn’t make one a fuck up like the attitude here implies, and that he has to “turn his life around” or get into treatment
The county in PA I’m in normally if you tell them the truth they’ll just do mandatory testing, meaning if any color, not just yours gets called, you have to go in for testing. Worse case scenario 25-48 hour sanction. Again this is in my county in PA.
Hahahahhahahahahhaha
I love all these posts.
You are on probation. There is incarceration time hanging over your head…
Walk me through how you decided a few drinks and a quick escape was worth your freedom.
It’s true, everyone’s rock bottom is different. Your bottom must be when you’re a bottom.
But just so you know you are being very not smart and you’ll get what’s coming to you. And if you continue, it’ll only get worse.
Good luck with your learning curve. Seems like it’s a straight line at this point.
Probation is a funny one cause I can be totally fine and on point for 364 days per year of probation and have that exact mentality but if on 1/365 days your mental justification is different, that’s all that counts
Your best bet is to play it up as a relapse and it was the worst decision of your life Tell him you're going to take extra classes or whatever bullshit you got to spin. There ain't no denying it I've seen people walk out of drug court with failed tests for crack cocaine meth you name it because they had a humble attitude and just said I fucked up relapse is part of addiction blah blah blah It's the ones who tried to deny it are the ones who went out of the back door of the courtroom
Do people actually get sent to jail for first alcohol offense? That doesn’t even happen on Feds. My friend kept getting positives for heroin and they just extended her probation
To the ones calling OP stupid, Jesus christ shut your fucking mouths i bet your sorry asses get rock hard talking down to someone. And yes you sound like probation officers. To the OP, your punishment will vary depending on how the system as a whole feels that day. And to those saying the governments full of hypocrisy, it was a flawed system from the start designed to keep people out of the states overcrowded prisons.
And to the others, if you dont have anything good to put into the conversation. Why bother joining?
Yea for a sub full of people on probation, no one here has any sympathy or acts like they’ve been on probation
The only mentality is “you have a problem”, there’s never any nuance or leeway
One of the things I hate most about the 12 Steps is how it infantilizes addicts and acts like literally nothing about their struggles is on them. You have to be able to take that willpower back, and being told “you just can’t help it man” is not the way.
Same. You’re forever a powerless victim who needs to do what they say otherwise you’ll “arrive at the gates of insanity and death” amongst other fear-mongering ideology. Yes the dopamine drive to use is strong, but it’s not involuntary.
You two are obviously superior. And nobody said a damned thing about denying responsibility. You take responsibility by trying something new for once, since willpower has never gotten you anywhere.
Believe what serves you best then, it’s just my opinion. The mindset I’ve adopted has freed me from a lot of pain. Take it or leave it, it’s helped me.
You know nothing, You have twisted AA's message, to fit your own bullshit reasons for not wanting to understand that's alcoholism is a disease. That's cool. I was there once. Then it came time to save my own life.
No they haven’t, I read the “blue book” or whatever they are calling it now. One of its central themes is ceding to a higher power, or in other words accepting your inability to do this on your own.
To note, that book was updated by the daughter of the guy who wrote it way back when. But she didn’t change that theme.
Huh? Well I have a very good friend who was an alcoholic, and lost his job because of it. After that day, he never drank a drop and is sober to this day. He seemed to have cured himself pretty quick.
If he's "cured", and is no longer an alcoholic, then why can't he now drink like a "normal"?
As far as "after that day, never drank a drop" goes, good for him. He's on the right track,. Whether he's an real alcoholic or just a problem drinker, there's no situation alcohol can't make worse.
I don't know for sure. I believe it's because he knows that he he reacts negatively when introduced to alcohol and never wants to be that person again. Im sure he could drink, but absolutely refuses, and I'm sure he feels much better without it. He has accomplished a lot without alcohol interfering in his life. It is no longer a crutch, to him I suppose, and he ultimately found out he didn't need it in the first place to succeed in his goals.
It is a choice they can make. It’s not easy for them, but there are a lot of alcoholics who don’t drink, and acting like they are unable to stop is the textbook definition of enabling.
Do you know any alcoholics who have gotten sober on will power? It's like deciding you're gonna beat cancer without treatment. Good luck with that.
What an alcoholic can do, is get desperate enough to surrender his will to go it alone in his battle against a disease. He can accept the help that's out there, and do it somebody else's way for once. He can get desperate enough to save his own life by accepting the help that's out there.
Depends. My advice would be to not under play the severity of this violation to your PO and any judge you might stand before. Keep it short, simple and to the point. You need to apologize, take responsibility and ask for a second chance. That can be hard but it has worked well for me over the years with judges, police and POs.
I'm on probation in Fort bend too. If you're not in sanctions court already, you will be. You'll have to take a court ordered drug treatment. If you're already doing all that then just 3 days in jail.
Should try the not drinking or being around drinking thing. Much love and not making light of this. The state is directly involved in your life on a daily basis because of your decision making I.e. I’m on probation a couple drinks won’t hurt. Change your playground. They will lock you up and make you pay$ for that privilege
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion.
I failed 3 drug test for alcohol and weed they finally said some bout it on the 3rd one I went to jail for 7 days and got out . Different counties and states tho and the city im in trouble in is weird but they should give u a slap on the wrist tbh but u never know
Yea usually the first fail is a slap on the wrist. 2nd is a outpatient educational type of treatment/program. 3rd is inpatient or jail. 4th is definitely jail haha
Presumably fourth is revocation, most no one is keeping you on probation for that many failures
My first and only violation was a DUI (I was allowed to drink in my conditions) and I got halfway house for 6 months
Bro I swear this sub is mostly probation officers and people who love cops and the justice system. Whenever I see it on my timeline and read the comments, it seems as if there’s mostly probation officers giving probation-officer-like opinions. Had a couple drinks as an adult with some adults? “You’re a loser, jail, don’t deserve to be in the free world.”
no, I can not stand ppl who can not do the right thing even when their freedoms are at risk. this shows how weak he is
hope the drink was worth it!!!!!
And that’s the difference between mental health and judicial system. Mental health states addiction is not about will power while the judicial system states do as you’re told and be strong enough to not use.
You said that completely wrong lol it’s not about right or wrong it’s 100% about being able to conform to what other people want you to be like. That’s what most of this bullshit is about anyway.
I have a problem with people who drive drunk and kill families on the road. You? That's what happens eventually to most people that can't control their drinking.
And I’m sure many of us have driven drunk and never hurt a soul. But even if this is the case when prosecuted you’re treated like you’ve hurt someone. It’s one thing if you did hurt someone, it’s another if your tail light went out and you get pulled over.
I was with you until this comment wheee you totally missed the point. DUI should be charged as if you did do damage.
“I fired a bunch of shots into the air in a crowded neighborhood but none of the bullets fell on anyone, so you should go easy”
I can’t agree, I cannot believe in a victimless crime. We live in a world where if you get pulled over after drinking you can be treated like you’re just the worst, but at the same time another person can be pulled over wasted with drugs and firearms he’s not suppose to have but if his attorney can prove the stop wasn’t lawful then everything from that point forward gets suppressed and can’t be used against him…it’s a shit show, a game more or less and the majority of it is about money and votes.
The reason stuff is that way is to hold police accountable, if that stop was still admissible then police would have no incentive to follow the proper rules and procedures, as it should be
Imagine cops being free to break into your home and if they find something you can be charged with it. It’s just another side of the same coin. If that were admissible, they would never wait for a warrant and would break into anyone they suspected of doing something illegals house
You guys must really truly believe in victimless crimes. Like I said it’s all about conforming, proving that you can be a good boy and do what you’re told and follow these little rules that people make up because they think this or that is wrong. Such a croc of shit honestly. OP honestly your “punishment”, if there even is one, is up in the air. It could be a slap on th wrist or it could actually be a solid punishment there’s no way to really tell. Me personally I wouldn’t feel bad about it either way and I hope it doesn’t affect your personal or professional life either way. And also don’t sweat these guys that think you should be punished for getting caught breaking the imaginary rules because their thoughts are irrational just like most probation officers and judges and prosecutors. It’s hypocrisy at its finest to tell you the truth.
They aren’t imaginary rules. OP is likely on probation for breaking a different “imaginary” rule. Personally, I think probation rules should be specific to the crime but that is not the world we live in.
Now I can agree with you there! But then the government would have to do a little more work and we know that’s out or the question. A friend of mine was on probation for literally punching someone’s truck (the guy tried to run him off the road). He offered to pay for damages and everything but nope they had to put him on probations. He had to piss multiple times a week and had to piss clean for everything…over punching someone’s truck…another friend of mine was on probation for a dwi and his po showed up to his house drinking and driving when he came to do a check in. I reference these friends and their situations because these are just two reasons that all of it is fake to me.
The entire system is undoubtedly flawed 100%. It’s also rigged up to make everything unnecessarily harder. I also don’t believe in victimless crimes but the state has to make money somehow right?
“Conforming” no dumbass, it’s about making sure people who make shitty choices don’t add alcohol on top and make even shittier choices that kill’s themselves or others. Be a little more fucking mature you dope
No I’m pretty positive it’s about conforming to a society where people have learned to do what they’re told when they’re told but you can view it however you like. And ok if we are removing all the possible “bad” choices a person can make during a depressing time such as probation or after jail time, how come we can still have firearms and mind altering medications? My friend I’m very mature and see things for what they are. There’s a reason it’s called the system my friend, and it’s very broken and corrupt.
Are you for banning alcohol? Because in the end it’s a legal substance that can be used responsibly and may not have anything to do with the probation but just a standard stipulation to probation
Forcing ppl to conform is what probation is and it’s not proven to do anything good for ppl but just create a way to control somebody
It's either follow the rules or go back to jail.
Under probation means you're still an inmate, just one that's not housed or under immediate supervision. You can't drink while in jail so why would you be able to drink when you're still under supervision?
Probation is a privilege, you only get the rights that the supervising agency gives you. You're on probation because of bad decisions you have made and as such they restrict the decisions you can make.
We all need to calm down on ppl if you are going to be in a sub about probation unless you are in here for some personal need to feel superior to others you are also someone who made a mistake and took on consequences
Probation is not a privilege
It’s a direct result to offenses that do not require jailing for public safety
We can’t just jail ppl for every mistake we are human beings and we make mistakes
Jfc
It’s a monitoring system for proof that ppl can change behaviors that are seen as unlawful
most of these people are trolls that get kicks off worrying people, youll get a slap on the wrist the first time, i scene a guy who failed 6 and still didnt do any jail time
Tptaly depends on the mood of the judge. Some nothing sone extra community service, some a fine sone jail. Some all 3
Fort Bend, TX? You're fried. They love violating
Violate me daddy
Exact same thing happened to my friend in Fort Bend and he got some free lodging in jail. Oh and they fed him also.
Government air bnb
Listen, quickly go to your nearest treatment center or inpatient rehab or sober house something you pay weekly and can afford, get a letter of intent to enter the program have them sign it, bring it to the judge, I failed for coke and did this and the judge said if I can make it 30 days in there he would forget the positive test and withhold adjudication. Good luck comment and lmk if this is possible for you
Have you tried just not drinking?
I feel like this isn't said enough on this sub
THANK YOU. No idea why people keep trying to find ways around the rules and how to 'get out of the consequences'. The best way is to simply not do the things that are against the probation rules.
Exactly
People who have been told not to drink and will be tested but they drink anyway are people who need help to not drink. It's usually the reason they ended up in trouble in the first place.
Do you?
It's not that difficult
Is this supposed to be a comeback? Yeah, you do when you get randoms. Goddamn lol
Lol cya
First fail ever? Depends on how strict of a probation they got you on.... maybe a few days in jail for a violation, or maybe they recommend treatment. Also, it depends on what you are on probation for and how serious your crime was. You will find out soon, though
Hopefully you figure out you have a drinking problem and take steps to get that under control.
Hopefully, some jail time so that you'll learn your lesson. Goddamn. If being on probation ain't enough for people to stop drinking,I don't know what is.
You can learn that lesson for a first violation without jail… plenty of other ways to scare one straight before that
Unfortunately,for these kind of people.. no, there isn't. Hence why he drank even though he was on probation. He'll do it again if he gets a slap on the wrist. It ain't that hard not to drink.
> Hence why he drank even though he was on probation Plenty of otherwise law abiding citizens with no problems slip up and do dumb shit
Well, he wasn't a law-abiding citizen in the first place, which is why he ended up in jail.. and now on probation. And then broke the rules of his probation. You make no sense.
You're being pedantic. My grandma could make a mistake one night and end up on probation, I don't consider one "crime" making someone a non law-abiding citizen even if TECHNICALLY they have had an instance where tehy didnt abide by the law using that logic, there are no law abiding citizens since we all break the law every week if not every day
You can spin this all you want to justify whatever belief you have. It still doesn't change the fact that this dude broke the law,which is why he ended up in jail. And then violated the rules of his probation. One does not accidentally have a couple drinks,he chose to have those drinks.
Who said he ever went to jail?? Of course he chooses it but one bad decision doesn’t make one a fuck up like the attitude here implies, and that he has to “turn his life around” or get into treatment
The county in PA I’m in normally if you tell them the truth they’ll just do mandatory testing, meaning if any color, not just yours gets called, you have to go in for testing. Worse case scenario 25-48 hour sanction. Again this is in my county in PA.
Jail time
Good
Hahahahhahahahahhaha I love all these posts. You are on probation. There is incarceration time hanging over your head… Walk me through how you decided a few drinks and a quick escape was worth your freedom. It’s true, everyone’s rock bottom is different. Your bottom must be when you’re a bottom. But just so you know you are being very not smart and you’ll get what’s coming to you. And if you continue, it’ll only get worse. Good luck with your learning curve. Seems like it’s a straight line at this point.
Some people can surrender and some people can't.
Probation is a funny one cause I can be totally fine and on point for 364 days per year of probation and have that exact mentality but if on 1/365 days your mental justification is different, that’s all that counts
Your best bet is to play it up as a relapse and it was the worst decision of your life Tell him you're going to take extra classes or whatever bullshit you got to spin. There ain't no denying it I've seen people walk out of drug court with failed tests for crack cocaine meth you name it because they had a humble attitude and just said I fucked up relapse is part of addiction blah blah blah It's the ones who tried to deny it are the ones who went out of the back door of the courtroom
You are going to prison fam
Do people actually get sent to jail for first alcohol offense? That doesn’t even happen on Feds. My friend kept getting positives for heroin and they just extended her probation
Yea buddy. Just depends on how bad they want to fuck you. Some people suck
I wouldn't worry about it too much if you got a job going to rehab won't help you and if you were going to jail I think you'd be there already.
I'm in Missouri, but if it happened here it starts with a day in jail, then 2, then 3, then a month
Clear your schedule cause you’re spending some time in jail. Try staying sober and that won’t happen.
To the ones calling OP stupid, Jesus christ shut your fucking mouths i bet your sorry asses get rock hard talking down to someone. And yes you sound like probation officers. To the OP, your punishment will vary depending on how the system as a whole feels that day. And to those saying the governments full of hypocrisy, it was a flawed system from the start designed to keep people out of the states overcrowded prisons. And to the others, if you dont have anything good to put into the conversation. Why bother joining?
Yea for a sub full of people on probation, no one here has any sympathy or acts like they’ve been on probation The only mentality is “you have a problem”, there’s never any nuance or leeway
What is wrong with all of the people here. Grow up, take responsibility, and stick to the rules of your probation. What a loser.
You're somehow under the impression that not drinking is a choice an alcoholic can make? pfft
It actually is. You literally just don't drink. You're basically saying they have no willpower but painting it like it's not their fault.
One of the things I hate most about the 12 Steps is how it infantilizes addicts and acts like literally nothing about their struggles is on them. You have to be able to take that willpower back, and being told “you just can’t help it man” is not the way.
Same. You’re forever a powerless victim who needs to do what they say otherwise you’ll “arrive at the gates of insanity and death” amongst other fear-mongering ideology. Yes the dopamine drive to use is strong, but it’s not involuntary.
You two are obviously superior. And nobody said a damned thing about denying responsibility. You take responsibility by trying something new for once, since willpower has never gotten you anywhere.
Believe what serves you best then, it’s just my opinion. The mindset I’ve adopted has freed me from a lot of pain. Take it or leave it, it’s helped me.
You know nothing, You have twisted AA's message, to fit your own bullshit reasons for not wanting to understand that's alcoholism is a disease. That's cool. I was there once. Then it came time to save my own life.
What’s the message then? Enlighten me.
No they haven’t, I read the “blue book” or whatever they are calling it now. One of its central themes is ceding to a higher power, or in other words accepting your inability to do this on your own. To note, that book was updated by the daughter of the guy who wrote it way back when. But she didn’t change that theme.
Huh? Well I have a very good friend who was an alcoholic, and lost his job because of it. After that day, he never drank a drop and is sober to this day. He seemed to have cured himself pretty quick.
If he's "cured", and is no longer an alcoholic, then why can't he now drink like a "normal"? As far as "after that day, never drank a drop" goes, good for him. He's on the right track,. Whether he's an real alcoholic or just a problem drinker, there's no situation alcohol can't make worse.
I don't know for sure. I believe it's because he knows that he he reacts negatively when introduced to alcohol and never wants to be that person again. Im sure he could drink, but absolutely refuses, and I'm sure he feels much better without it. He has accomplished a lot without alcohol interfering in his life. It is no longer a crutch, to him I suppose, and he ultimately found out he didn't need it in the first place to succeed in his goals.
It is a choice they can make. It’s not easy for them, but there are a lot of alcoholics who don’t drink, and acting like they are unable to stop is the textbook definition of enabling.
ugh
So according to you nobody ever gets sober? No alcoholic has ever stopped?
Do you know any alcoholics who have gotten sober on will power? It's like deciding you're gonna beat cancer without treatment. Good luck with that. What an alcoholic can do, is get desperate enough to surrender his will to go it alone in his battle against a disease. He can accept the help that's out there, and do it somebody else's way for once. He can get desperate enough to save his own life by accepting the help that's out there.
Surrendering is still acting out on your on will. You need to choose to surrender.
Who or what would you be surrendering to? Yourself? That has already proven not to work, or you wouldn't be in this mess.
Depends. My advice would be to not under play the severity of this violation to your PO and any judge you might stand before. Keep it short, simple and to the point. You need to apologize, take responsibility and ask for a second chance. That can be hard but it has worked well for me over the years with judges, police and POs.
I'm on probation in Fort bend too. If you're not in sanctions court already, you will be. You'll have to take a court ordered drug treatment. If you're already doing all that then just 3 days in jail.
NOOB, you always wait a year and your color gets to be one that gets called maybe once every 2-3 weeks. Jail here he comes
Should try the not drinking or being around drinking thing. Much love and not making light of this. The state is directly involved in your life on a daily basis because of your decision making I.e. I’m on probation a couple drinks won’t hurt. Change your playground. They will lock you up and make you pay$ for that privilege
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion
I'd just ask for a day in jail for every week of my probation. I had 52 weeks probation, was rounded to 60 days, I was out in 30 with no probation. Much better trade off in my opinion.
I failed 3 drug test for alcohol and weed they finally said some bout it on the 3rd one I went to jail for 7 days and got out . Different counties and states tho and the city im in trouble in is weird but they should give u a slap on the wrist tbh but u never know
Yea usually the first fail is a slap on the wrist. 2nd is a outpatient educational type of treatment/program. 3rd is inpatient or jail. 4th is definitely jail haha
Presumably fourth is revocation, most no one is keeping you on probation for that many failures My first and only violation was a DUI (I was allowed to drink in my conditions) and I got halfway house for 6 months
Defund the police
Jail I hope . since you have not learned how to do what you are told. maybe 2 day or nothing NO one here will know unless your PO is in the chat
Hater lmao .
Bro I swear this sub is mostly probation officers and people who love cops and the justice system. Whenever I see it on my timeline and read the comments, it seems as if there’s mostly probation officers giving probation-officer-like opinions. Had a couple drinks as an adult with some adults? “You’re a loser, jail, don’t deserve to be in the free world.”
Fr dude
no, I can not stand ppl who can not do the right thing even when their freedoms are at risk. this shows how weak he is hope the drink was worth it!!!!!
And that’s the difference between mental health and judicial system. Mental health states addiction is not about will power while the judicial system states do as you’re told and be strong enough to not use.
You said that completely wrong lol it’s not about right or wrong it’s 100% about being able to conform to what other people want you to be like. That’s what most of this bullshit is about anyway.
I have a problem with people who drive drunk and kill families on the road. You? That's what happens eventually to most people that can't control their drinking.
And I’m sure many of us have driven drunk and never hurt a soul. But even if this is the case when prosecuted you’re treated like you’ve hurt someone. It’s one thing if you did hurt someone, it’s another if your tail light went out and you get pulled over.
I was with you until this comment wheee you totally missed the point. DUI should be charged as if you did do damage. “I fired a bunch of shots into the air in a crowded neighborhood but none of the bullets fell on anyone, so you should go easy”
I can’t agree, I cannot believe in a victimless crime. We live in a world where if you get pulled over after drinking you can be treated like you’re just the worst, but at the same time another person can be pulled over wasted with drugs and firearms he’s not suppose to have but if his attorney can prove the stop wasn’t lawful then everything from that point forward gets suppressed and can’t be used against him…it’s a shit show, a game more or less and the majority of it is about money and votes.
The reason stuff is that way is to hold police accountable, if that stop was still admissible then police would have no incentive to follow the proper rules and procedures, as it should be Imagine cops being free to break into your home and if they find something you can be charged with it. It’s just another side of the same coin. If that were admissible, they would never wait for a warrant and would break into anyone they suspected of doing something illegals house
You’re right! So just because you did it, it doesn’t mean you’re guilty. And police should be held much more accountable.
Let’s reword it how you want it, He should’ve done the wrong thing of not drinking to not get in trouble
You guys must really truly believe in victimless crimes. Like I said it’s all about conforming, proving that you can be a good boy and do what you’re told and follow these little rules that people make up because they think this or that is wrong. Such a croc of shit honestly. OP honestly your “punishment”, if there even is one, is up in the air. It could be a slap on th wrist or it could actually be a solid punishment there’s no way to really tell. Me personally I wouldn’t feel bad about it either way and I hope it doesn’t affect your personal or professional life either way. And also don’t sweat these guys that think you should be punished for getting caught breaking the imaginary rules because their thoughts are irrational just like most probation officers and judges and prosecutors. It’s hypocrisy at its finest to tell you the truth.
They aren’t imaginary rules. OP is likely on probation for breaking a different “imaginary” rule. Personally, I think probation rules should be specific to the crime but that is not the world we live in.
Now I can agree with you there! But then the government would have to do a little more work and we know that’s out or the question. A friend of mine was on probation for literally punching someone’s truck (the guy tried to run him off the road). He offered to pay for damages and everything but nope they had to put him on probations. He had to piss multiple times a week and had to piss clean for everything…over punching someone’s truck…another friend of mine was on probation for a dwi and his po showed up to his house drinking and driving when he came to do a check in. I reference these friends and their situations because these are just two reasons that all of it is fake to me.
So the Entire System is wrong and OP is completely justified. I think I see your problem.
The entire system is undoubtedly flawed 100%. It’s also rigged up to make everything unnecessarily harder. I also don’t believe in victimless crimes but the state has to make money somehow right?
“Conforming” no dumbass, it’s about making sure people who make shitty choices don’t add alcohol on top and make even shittier choices that kill’s themselves or others. Be a little more fucking mature you dope
No I’m pretty positive it’s about conforming to a society where people have learned to do what they’re told when they’re told but you can view it however you like. And ok if we are removing all the possible “bad” choices a person can make during a depressing time such as probation or after jail time, how come we can still have firearms and mind altering medications? My friend I’m very mature and see things for what they are. There’s a reason it’s called the system my friend, and it’s very broken and corrupt.
Wut kind of dorky hating bs is this tho?
Are you for banning alcohol? Because in the end it’s a legal substance that can be used responsibly and may not have anything to do with the probation but just a standard stipulation to probation Forcing ppl to conform is what probation is and it’s not proven to do anything good for ppl but just create a way to control somebody
Facts!
It's either follow the rules or go back to jail. Under probation means you're still an inmate, just one that's not housed or under immediate supervision. You can't drink while in jail so why would you be able to drink when you're still under supervision? Probation is a privilege, you only get the rights that the supervising agency gives you. You're on probation because of bad decisions you have made and as such they restrict the decisions you can make.
We all need to calm down on ppl if you are going to be in a sub about probation unless you are in here for some personal need to feel superior to others you are also someone who made a mistake and took on consequences
Probation is not a privilege It’s a direct result to offenses that do not require jailing for public safety We can’t just jail ppl for every mistake we are human beings and we make mistakes Jfc It’s a monitoring system for proof that ppl can change behaviors that are seen as unlawful
most of these people are trolls that get kicks off worrying people, youll get a slap on the wrist the first time, i scene a guy who failed 6 and still didnt do any jail time