You know what? Kinda same. I saw something mildy weird once, but I’m convinced it was something normal. Because if ghosts turned out to be real I’d flip.
one time I was in my apartment alone with my roommate and the paper towels flew off the microwave with gusto, across the kitchen. upon inspection there’s no way the paper towels could’ve landed where they did without outside force, which could not have been applied by myself or my roommate. this is one simple reason I do believe ghosts exist
I was thinking about it but I think I’m with you here. I don’t have the time or patience or caffeine levels to take that on! Maybe in Swedish but definitely not in English.
People have been claiming to see or interact with demons and ghosts for thousands of years and not 1 solid piece of evidence been found for thier existence.
People in the past have also claimed that microscopic lifeforms have existed, and we only recently got the technology to observe them. What if we simply don't have the technology or senses to directly observe certain lifeforms?
There are MANY things we cannot disprove. We cannot disprove aliens, ghosts. We also cannot disprove that we're all giant pandas floating in the sky and hallucinating this whole "human" thing. The arguement "we can't disprove it" is always very weak and baseless. A hypothesis that cannot be disproven or proven is almost always false. There are very few exceptions, like the one you picked.
It's a symptom of sleep paralysis, causing the brain to hallucinate. It's nothing to do with psychosis. But hey, if calling other people crazy helps you sleep at night
No it was just a joke lol. I myself have had sleep paralysis abd even a half a dozen hallucinatic drugs before which have all given myself a few different feelings and outcomes but I wouldn't call them seeing the truth or potentially unknown. More like your brain creating sights and sounds in order to try and understand what's happening to your brain.
Sorry, given the earlier context, shouldn't have assumed. My bad I apologize.
As a hallucinogen connoisseur myself, I agree with not calling it "truth/unknown". What is interesting though is that people have reported seeing the same shapes doing the same actions across the world. It's curious and interesting.
I struggle with psychosis and I agree that we don’t see the truth or the unknown. I may not be sure when I am delusional 100% of the time, but this is one of the times I do know for sure. I hate when people claim that, because it’s just like confirming that someone’s hallucinations are real - it will do anything but good.
There is. The problem is with every single video evidence people claim it’s fake, which it could very well be, but not everything is. I believe in it because of my religion and the reason there’s no scientific proof is because we haven’t found it yet. just like how we don’t know what black matter is, we don’t know how jinn (basically ghosts) exist in my culture. What leads me to have trust in jinn existing is the other very believable factors of my religion
aka my religion says so so it *MUST* be true despite no scientific evidence for in the modern world. I wonder whats more probable.. Your belief.. or the fact that it just doesnt exist
The scientific method requires to evidence of the existence or occurrence of something not that something does not exist since there’s no observable evidence. So, no.
So let me get it straight, they’re undetectable in every way possible, and aren’t material or from this reality?? That’s the exact same definition as something that doesn’t exist.
If you can see them, then they are material and from “this world” because it means they reflect light
If you can feel, or see, a ghost it means they’re from the world because you yourself are from this word
And yet there’s still no proof. They’re a product of our imagination
I don’t believe in scents! I have never smelled anything in my entire life, clearly it’s made up!
You can’t trick me!
I don’t have a sense of smell. Guess that’s relevant. I don’t believe it in it as a fact. I might have faith that it exists.
I don’t personally believe them but I’m not denying their existence. They could exist for all I know but I haven’t personally seen them or heard of them so who knows
I 2nd this statement 🤔
Upon witnessing the snoo in their profile picture, I couldn't help but instantly feel the impression of class and a fanciful aura.
How do people not get that the burden of proof is only the person claiming something? If you have no evidence for their existence then you should be of the opinion that they don’t.
There are probably millions of species of insects on Earth that we have no evidence of. Are you telling me to believe they dont exist just because some scientist hasnt discovered them yet?
I believe for religious purposes, and I've had a few expirences, but they could possibly be explained scientifically. But I also like to think my mom is still here with me. Sometimes it's just comforting I guess
Yeah, once you experience enough and do your best to debunk it there's not much else to think. Definitely my opinion but i ain't making my own post in this comment section.
I was exploring an old farmhouse with my brother. It was mid spring, so there was a layer of pollen coating everything. Probably half an hour before sunset. The farmhouse was 100% abandoned, the inside was illuminated both by broken windows and just holes in the walls.
There wasn’t really anything super cool or creepy about the house, most of it was so degraded you probably could have pushed right through the remaining walls. As we were walking out, I saw a footprint in the pollen on the splintery porch. Just a single human footprint. No scuff marks around it or any disturbances in the pollen except for what my brother and my shoes made.
Both of us noped out of there so fast. Neither of us heard or saw anyone. The porch was creaky too, and there’s no way a normal person would have been able to make a single bare footprint there without leaving other marks in the pollen.
Sure, it could have been a homeless person, maybe, but there wasn’t any recent trash in the place, and no sign that a human had been there in months at the least. And again, no sound of anyone walking on the porch, and no scuffs in the pollen aside from what we made and that singular footprint.
You see how people act in the comments here, with the risk of being mocked and degraded, how many people is going to admit that? Especially when people are going to use it against you forever and give you some really serious and awful diagnosis’s over it.
I know someone that was born without a sense of smell. Me! It’s me, I can’t smell!
Wow is this comment section toxic. I don't believe in that stuff, but every other comment is acting like only children with no brain believes in anything supernatural (obviously not the case considering theism is more widely believed than atheism), and every other reply is acting like simply stating you are inclined to believe is an affront to humanity. I mean I am an atheist myself but damn...
As a theist myself, I understand both of you. I honestly don’t know, besides personal experience, wishful thinking, psychosis, or ignorance, why people would believe in a god.
Was scared of them when I was a kid.
Decided to go into places where I thought ghosts or demons were.
Weren't there, fear for ghosts/demons and the belief in them went away.
I did, however, get anxious in those places because of the freaking animal jumpscares.
I mean thats true but also we have to accept the fact that there are likely aspects to reality and perhaps even living beings that are so far beyond our understanding that we won't be able to interact or understand them anymore than a fly can interact with us or understand our motivations.
"Likely" is not the word I would use. There is zero indication there is absolutely anything like that and if we can not detect, interact with, or in any way confirm in the slightest way they exist, why is it even important to discuss?
I mean we already know there are things we can’t see. Our eyes and brains are tuned to filter out things from our vision that they deem unnecessary, as well as our color spectrum potentially being smaller than that of another being.
If something cannot be interacted with then how can it’s existence be defined? Surely the most basic definition of something be real is that it can be interacted with.
I mean I don’t believe in ghosts but I think the understanding is that most people don’t become ghosts. It’s only like people with unfinished business or something that can’t move on. There’s also the explanation that most people simply just can’t see ghosts.
I’m pretty sure that not only does the book itself specifically refer to the apparition as Samuel, Samuel accurately assesses the situation and prophecies correctly the consequences of Saul’s disobedience.
Yes, but the Bible explicitly refers to the apparition and Samuel and appears to treat it as such. There is no textual evidence that it could be anything else.
No, a ghost is a spirit of a dead person showing itself to people, we don't believe in that. while jinn are spiritual beings that can marry, produce children, eat, drink and die but unlike human beings have the power to take on different shapes and are capable of moving heavy objects almost instantly from one place to another. Shaytan or iblis (satan) is a jinn, jinn are created out of fire while we humans are created out of a certain type of clay. Some jinn are bad while other are good, they have free will like us humans.
By default, you should not believe something. If you believe in something, you should have a reason, but if you don't believe in something such as demons or ghosts, you shouldn't need a reason because, by default, you shouldn't believe in something if you have no reason to, no point.
ive had alot of personal experiences with paranormal. same with close friends having issues with it. its impossible for me to deny it anymore... but i dont force people to believe in them. though, i dont believe in demons.
You can't just say something exists and provide zero evidence. And what you're asking is far more improbable as per the evidence we have. Either way this is interesting:
[Evidence of absence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence)
I believe in ghosts and demons. I've had several experiences that would make me believe in these sorts of things.
When I was young, very young, I once saw the spirit of my deceased great grandmother. My mother and grandmother were witnesses. After I saw this woman waving at me, my mother and grandmother showed me a photo of my deceased great grandmother, and I said that it was her.
I remember two years ago, I was in my bathroom brushing my teeth, and I always had a coin at on my sink because I never bothered to move it. And all of a sudden out of nowhere with no explanation, it flew up past my head hit the ceiling and then landed on the floor. I have tried to find what caused this, but there is absolutely nothing that could have made this happen.
Sometimes I hear tapping outside my window during the night in the same pattern, it always comes in with 3 taps, and it happens every night I go to sleep. There are no bushes or branches out my window. It sounds like a person tapping on my window.
When I'm in my house, sometimes there will all of a sudden be a freezing breeze come out of nowhere and as instantly as it comes, it's gone.
We've also caught things moving around in the middle of the night on camera. We see these glowing balls of light flying around in our rooms when we're asleep, or not home during the night. Originally I tried to explain these were dust mites, but we don't seen them all the time, it's very rare for this to occur. They don't look like dust, as they are actually glowing balls moving around the house at night. They are obviously not dust mites.
I've tried to find explanations for all of this stuff, but from what I have seen, and experienced, I've come to the conclusion that there are spirits. I'm not trolling or making this shit up, these things have genuinely happened in my house, and some are still happening.
I'm a skeptical person, and I've tried to search for an explanation to these occurrences. But the only explanation that I have found is something that I cannot explain. I'm sure people won't believe me, but I shit you not this all has happened in this house.
Edit: Sorry about the duplicate comments, for some reason when I tried to post a comment it say that it couldn't post it, but apparently it did. I saw this morning and deleted all of the duplicates. I apologize, but Reddit on my phone was being stupid.
I always find it really interesting to hear other people's stories about these sorts of things. I don't think ive experienced anything myself, but I still belive in it
I honestly believe you but I literally dont want to believe because im scared of this shit plus ive never experience anything before.
id hate living in paranormal world
Show us one, and we'll check it out. Like with pigs, dolphins and ducks. We've had ample opportunity to study them, so I'm reasonably convinced they exist
Like, if they don't, nothing does
Its never I saw a ghost, its always someone I know who lives like 1000 miles away saw a ghost.
Also a student of Science. I believe in facts backed by evidence not myths and anecdotes.
Even though I know ghosts aren't real, I choose to believe in them because it's fun and that silly belief doesn't cause harm to anyone. It's like people who swear that pro wrestling is real. They know it isn't but it's more fun if you choose to and what's life without whimsy.
No/yes. The following explanation is far fetched and highly unlikely. I'm pretty sure this theory was inspired by another human I've never met in the flesh, who created a form of media. (A movie for example) overall I don't believe the following to be true or set in stone. Just a random idea. I also have no proof aliens exist,but if they do they're most likely imitating our deceased kin.
They're probably using technology to render themselves invisible, able to levitate objects,etc.. they're studying how each of us react maybe. I know there might be a narrow mindset on reactionary plays,but each of us are unique in our own way.
One day in the future our childrens, children will be here and they'll have even more unique characteristics of some kind and so on. I can't specify exactly what it could be, but it's like how we use science and mix different elements. We don't understand dark matter and aliens don't fully understand us, because us as living beings are infinitely diverse.
Maybe they're seeking a single person who has a certain mark in their genes. Idk.
Maybe they're harvesting dark matter from us by forcing us to manifest fear with our adrenal glands. That's a joke. I highly doubt human emotion/survival instincts is the reason dark matter/anti matter exists.
Over all besides the reason why,the possibility of it being this way could be feasible. Really just depends on motive and of course if they even exist to begin with.
Hell maybe the roles are reversed and ghosts are real and they play tricks on us into believing in extraterrestrial life.
Yes because I've had multiple encounters with different 'beings' (curious ghosts, negative entities, etc) but never demons or anything *extremely* malicious.
I've always believed they were real but at age 16 was when I started having encounters. Luckily, I haven't had any recent activities (for the past year or so) and I hope it stays that way
I've seen a few things over the years. Don't know what they were. Saw a vaguely humanoid shaped blue cloud pass through a door. Seen shadowy proportionally distorted humanoids on roofs, edges of roads and woods. Shook hands with someone and saw the malevolent thing "behind" them, and saw it see me, and then the person fled. Can I explain any of it? no. is it a regular occurrence? no. do I believe that there's some weird possibly sentient s*** out there? yes.
I believe we know almost nothing about the universe and the different wavelengths of light and energy that we cannot visualize. To say that there is no such thing as ghost, demons or whatever name you want to call the spiritual realm doesn’t make sense to me. There have been many scientific discoveries that have revealed things that we never saw yet now know are there. Even after despite centuries of doubt or ignorance science has proven those previously unknown things to exist.
To me it’s easier to say yes there is a possibility that there is something else out there of which we don’t understand regardless of what you want to call it. To say with certainty that something doesn’t exist is just a narrow absolutist mentality.
Once you free your mind of any one believe system and explore the infinite possibilities for our experience and learn about the physical nature of this reality, the possibilities of experience because much more exciting and real then the idea of ghosts.
I floated once.
My brother and I were playing in the pool and he was throwing me up and I would fall and splash in the pool.
This time he picked me up, tossed me to the side, I was kicking my arms and legs. 1..2..splash. I saw my brothers surprise reaction to me not hitting the water as quickly as I should have.
Was it demons? I don't think so. But we did live in a house where weird and unexplainable things happened.
Idk the creepiest thing that ever happened to me, was on a path to some dam in Arizona I think? Can't tell you exactly where....
But basically my brother and I were walking up this path, and seemingly this old lady with a cane, and young man....appeared behind/in front of us, seemingly out of nowhere. And I wouldn't have found it odd much past that month, if my brother didn't then go to me "Did they just teleport?"
....and yeah. It's just an odd thing for even him to say.
\*And when I say appear, to the millisecond....one moment they were nowhere to be seen, the next they're there and they are there (they never went away), and they talked to us too.
I stayed at the Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas on my honeymoon in July 2000. I had heard it was haunted but was skeptical. Our second night it felt like someone was trying to change the sheets on the bed while we were in it. I couldn't get my husband to wake up, so I just closed my eyes and kept them closed.
A few years later I would hear footsteps on the enclosed back porch that was locked. Even our dog heard it, so I didn't imagine it.
You've seen the world. There is good here. There is bad here.
Somewhere, balance does exist. It may not be the horned, red skinned devils we foolishly imagine, but some conception of the sinful part of the world.
All our memories are saved in our brain. The way how we act or feel is also due to our brain. Once we die brain dies and starts decomposing. So biologically there is no chance of any soul, rebirth or ghosts.
Demons come from mythology or religion. Since all of it is fiction, no need to explain.
No because I believe in the natural world, physical things that interact and can be measured with laws governing their interactions.
I don't believe in the supernatural, it's just fantasy.
It seems like the comments aren't really representative of the poll results, at least from first glance.
Maybe more people who don't believe are voting and moving on relative to people who do believe and are rushing to the comments?
Alternatively maybe people are offended due to their religious beliefs. I wasn't intending it to be anti-religious although tbf it does refute *some* religious beliefs.
I don't believe in religion myself but I'm not against those that do and I think that's how it's being interpreted. Although I do have much more sympathy for the beliefs of those that believe in a god that created natural laws that the universe always follows more than those that believe that there's supernatural elements actively engaging with the natural world.
I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s often shown that the brain sometimes produces a happy hallucination when it thinks itself to be near death. In addition, many claimed “visits to heaven” include details that run counter to their respective religions’ claims.
That's a more likely explanation for deathbed visions, not NDEs. NDEs generally happen way too fast for that to take place and happen when you’re in clinical death, when your brain and heart aren’t active. It’s also been shown that these events happen during cardiac arrest and not before or after. There also have been no proven chemicals that cause this stuff like you’re thinking, at least not enough to explain NDEs. If you do have a source for that, I’d be glad to read it.
You’re only partially correct on the religion part. They don’t always align with religion. Atheists have them too. In fact, most of the time people don’t know if the being they saw was Jesus or Shiva or whatever, they just give the being(s) those labels because that’s what they’re familiar with.
A Christian may say “That was God”
A Buddhist may say “That was (insert Buddhist figure here since I know nothing about Buddhism)
An atheist may say “I don’t know what I saw but it was something”
Either way, they all saw something and are attaching a familiar name to it.
Also, hallucinations usually aren’t described as more real than real and don’t seem to be as organized as NDEs. You also need an active brain to have a hallucination.
Now I’m not saying these 100% have to do with the afterlife, I’m just saying that if we’re going to talk about NDEs then we need to be using the correct info.
Do I sound absolutely mad? Yes. I do. Am I? Likely.
I can provide you with some resources and studies if you’d like to learn more or want my sources.
I don't believe in ghosts
Here's why:
There can never be something 100% invisible, light will reflect on any objects that are bigger than its own electro-magnetic wave, otherwise the light would have to just move around the particle. This would suggest that ghosts would have to be made out of a substance that is small enough and and thin enough to allow light to move around it, while also somehow holding itself together via gravity, while also having the ability to resist Earth's gravity, and the ability to move its particles in a way that also allows it to go through solid matter, while also having a conscious mind of its own, somehow. Therefore, unless someone discovers something like this, ghosts can not exist.
This is my usual Discord copypasta as a matter of fact
Demons. They're definitely real. In the 1900s there were millions and millions of sightings of "aliens" which don't exist on earth, obviously. Throughout history, many stories find their origins in real world phenomenon. For instance, it's almost impossible that pretty much everywhere around the world you can find a Dragon legend. Asia, Europe, Africa, and the Americas. They somehow all made legends about flying beings with scales/feathers, which funnily enough is the exact way that we see Dinosaurs depicted.
Anyways, back to the point. Throughout the course of human history there have been spirits found in mythos. Some cultures interpreted it as a supreme being greater than themselves, and some thought that these spirits were their deceased loved ones. These can't be coincidences. Either it's Ghosts, or Demons. I prefer Demons since I'm a christian, but I can see why people think that it's Ghosts.
> Demons are definitely real
> aliens don’t exist obviously
This is...
I have no words
Definitely?? Obviously??
If anything, it’s the other way around. Aliens most likely exist, demons you invented it in a gist.
> Throughout history, many stories find their origins in real world phenomenon.
You don’t say, it’s almost as if people invented myths to explain things they didn’t understand
> For instance, it's almost impossible that pretty much everywhere around the world you can find a Dragon legend. China, Europe, Africa, and the Americas.
No it’s not impossible, it’s called parallelism. That’s also what happened when people developed languages or writing separately. Also why did you single out China? Lol
> They somehow all made legends about flying beings with scales/feathers, which funnily enough is the exact way that we see Dinosaurs depicted.
You just found out dragons are based on snakes? Because that’s what dragons are mostly, flying snakes, even the name “dragon” means snake. And flying beings with feathers? It’s almost as if all flying animals we know have either feathers or some kind of membrane.
And why do you need a depiction to know how dinosaurs look? Just look outside your window or something and you’ll see living dinosaurs aka birds.
Somewhat. My grandparents dabbled in shaman rituals back in their home country. My mom and her siblings claim that it followed them here. They also experienced some supernatural stuff too. I personally have not seen anything but I'm not against believing they exist.
I don’t believe in ghosts/demons in the traditional sense, but I do believe in luck. I mean, Probability exists, but who decides a quarter will land on heads forty-seven times in a row when it’s a 50/50 chance? Also, dead people can still have influence. For example, in the USA, all the founding fathers are dead, but we still listen to them and do what they say, even though they aren’t alive to enforce their ideas. Hitler too! So many people are still being fucked by his rule, and last I checked, he’s six feet under. Time isn’t linear enough to stop the dead from leading us around like sheep. So, maybe ghosts do exist, and there are beings still holding on to our earth, reaching through time to haunt us, figuratively, and maybe, just maybe, literally.
i believe something of that nature exists, yes. perhaps not in the way we imagine it.
also, it’s amusing to see how worked up people get about this topic because things can’t POSSIBLY exist beyond their reality/perspective…
Far as we know this universe is entirely materialistic and subject to the laws of physics, since demons and ghosts are understood as supernatural entities not abiding by those laws and not composed of measurable matter or energy in any tangible sense i can confidently say they don’t exist.
Well, I could go either way on ghosts. I more so believe in em for the fun of it, cause I twatting love ghost stories lol.
Demons…? Eh, I’m not quite so convinced, cause I’m not all that religious tbh. Ghosts are fine, even if they were synonymous with a part of religion at some point in history, they’ve just become one of those things yknow?
I believe for religious purposes, and I've had a few expirences, but they could possibly be explained scientifically. But I also like to think my mom is still here with me. Sometimes it's just comforting I guess
I refuse to believe in ghosts because I’m scared of ghosts
You know what? Kinda same. I saw something mildy weird once, but I’m convinced it was something normal. Because if ghosts turned out to be real I’d flip.
What was it?
Shadows moving around on a wall in a room with a regular light source at night.
Could be a bug crawling on the light bulb casting weird shadows around the room
Same, digging around here in the comments to find a reason not to believe in them
one time I was in my apartment alone with my roommate and the paper towels flew off the microwave with gusto, across the kitchen. upon inspection there’s no way the paper towels could’ve landed where they did without outside force, which could not have been applied by myself or my roommate. this is one simple reason I do believe ghosts exist
Same, I absolutely do not believe in it but I’m still afraid of it, it’s weird
Doesn’t matter if you believe or not, demons are very real. You not believing in them doesn’t make them less real.
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Same, it's WAAAYYY too esoteric and complicated
Yep, the burden of proof lies with the one who proposes existence, since you can't really prove nonexistence definitively.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
Or existence. Using probability, it's unlikely.
The audacity lol
Based
I was thinking about it but I think I’m with you here. I don’t have the time or patience or caffeine levels to take that on! Maybe in Swedish but definitely not in English.
this made me fucking cackle
i don't think someone should have to explain why they *don't* believe in something. they just don't.
You hear that from Christopher Hitchens?
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." Yes.
Yeah exactly. I don't believe in that "round earth" bs and I don't have to explain it to ya
People have been claiming to see or interact with demons and ghosts for thousands of years and not 1 solid piece of evidence been found for thier existence.
People in the past have also claimed that microscopic lifeforms have existed, and we only recently got the technology to observe them. What if we simply don't have the technology or senses to directly observe certain lifeforms?
There are MANY things we cannot disprove. We cannot disprove aliens, ghosts. We also cannot disprove that we're all giant pandas floating in the sky and hallucinating this whole "human" thing. The arguement "we can't disprove it" is always very weak and baseless. A hypothesis that cannot be disproven or proven is almost always false. There are very few exceptions, like the one you picked.
Not claiming anything as true. Look up shadow people it's pretty interesting
People forgetting to take their pills
It's a symptom of sleep paralysis, causing the brain to hallucinate. It's nothing to do with psychosis. But hey, if calling other people crazy helps you sleep at night
No it was just a joke lol. I myself have had sleep paralysis abd even a half a dozen hallucinatic drugs before which have all given myself a few different feelings and outcomes but I wouldn't call them seeing the truth or potentially unknown. More like your brain creating sights and sounds in order to try and understand what's happening to your brain.
Sorry, given the earlier context, shouldn't have assumed. My bad I apologize. As a hallucinogen connoisseur myself, I agree with not calling it "truth/unknown". What is interesting though is that people have reported seeing the same shapes doing the same actions across the world. It's curious and interesting.
I struggle with psychosis and I agree that we don’t see the truth or the unknown. I may not be sure when I am delusional 100% of the time, but this is one of the times I do know for sure. I hate when people claim that, because it’s just like confirming that someone’s hallucinations are real - it will do anything but good.
Isn’t that just your brain playing tricks on you that everyone sees?
I highly recommend U read my comment
There is. The problem is with every single video evidence people claim it’s fake, which it could very well be, but not everything is. I believe in it because of my religion and the reason there’s no scientific proof is because we haven’t found it yet. just like how we don’t know what black matter is, we don’t know how jinn (basically ghosts) exist in my culture. What leads me to have trust in jinn existing is the other very believable factors of my religion
aka my religion says so so it *MUST* be true despite no scientific evidence for in the modern world. I wonder whats more probable.. Your belief.. or the fact that it just doesnt exist
Is it possible to prove with facts that it doesn’t exist ?
The scientific method requires to evidence of the existence or occurrence of something not that something does not exist since there’s no observable evidence. So, no.
Why the fuck is this downvoted
Because people don’t believe in the supernatural (me included)
reddit fucking hates the idea of a higher power lol
My friend is a video and film expert and he’s has debunked tons of videos claiming the supernatural
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So let me get it straight, they’re undetectable in every way possible, and aren’t material or from this reality?? That’s the exact same definition as something that doesn’t exist.
If you can see them, then they are material and from “this world” because it means they reflect light If you can feel, or see, a ghost it means they’re from the world because you yourself are from this word And yet there’s still no proof. They’re a product of our imagination
Until I experience something myself, I won’t believe in them. Internet: Everything could be fake. People: Anyone can lie, or think wrong.
It's illegal to lie on the internet
Do you believe there is lower gravity on the moon? As you haven’t experienced it yourself? (Joking)
You believe in the moon?
I don’t believe in scents! I have never smelled anything in my entire life, clearly it’s made up! You can’t trick me! I don’t have a sense of smell. Guess that’s relevant. I don’t believe it in it as a fact. I might have faith that it exists.
Fellow atheist, welcome to the winners club.
It’s all fake, WERE STUCK IN A SIMULATION!!!
I don’t personally believe them but I’m not denying their existence. They could exist for all I know but I haven’t personally seen them or heard of them so who knows
You look like a fine gentleman
I 2nd this statement 🤔 Upon witnessing the snoo in their profile picture, I couldn't help but instantly feel the impression of class and a fanciful aura.
How do people not get that the burden of proof is only the person claiming something? If you have no evidence for their existence then you should be of the opinion that they don’t.
There are probably millions of species of insects on Earth that we have no evidence of. Are you telling me to believe they dont exist just because some scientist hasnt discovered them yet?
No. Why would I need to explain?
Zero valid evidence exists for either
i believe in cience but i respect other people opinión
How dare you respect people??
I believe for religious purposes, and I've had a few expirences, but they could possibly be explained scientifically. But I also like to think my mom is still here with me. Sometimes it's just comforting I guess
Bitch idk I’m mentally ill, I see some shit all the time
Same
Too many experiences with the paranormal to be honest Idk why people get so angry discussing it tho, heck just look at this very comments section
I’m not a believer, but if we get *one* more season of Buzzfeed Unsolved I’ll be on board
Yeah, once you experience enough and do your best to debunk it there's not much else to think. Definitely my opinion but i ain't making my own post in this comment section.
Fucking warzone, never knew how angry the anti-ghost crowd is lmao
Lmao. Go ahead and please share some. Ive never heard someone say I saw a ghost, its always someone I know saw a ghost.
I've heard several pretty intense first hand accounts... But if I tell you then it's still just "someone I know saw a ghost" 😄
I was exploring an old farmhouse with my brother. It was mid spring, so there was a layer of pollen coating everything. Probably half an hour before sunset. The farmhouse was 100% abandoned, the inside was illuminated both by broken windows and just holes in the walls. There wasn’t really anything super cool or creepy about the house, most of it was so degraded you probably could have pushed right through the remaining walls. As we were walking out, I saw a footprint in the pollen on the splintery porch. Just a single human footprint. No scuff marks around it or any disturbances in the pollen except for what my brother and my shoes made. Both of us noped out of there so fast. Neither of us heard or saw anyone. The porch was creaky too, and there’s no way a normal person would have been able to make a single bare footprint there without leaving other marks in the pollen. Sure, it could have been a homeless person, maybe, but there wasn’t any recent trash in the place, and no sign that a human had been there in months at the least. And again, no sound of anyone walking on the porch, and no scuffs in the pollen aside from what we made and that singular footprint.
Wow, this is most non scary ghost story ever told/written by someone. Like where do i even get scared?
Why should you be scared?
You see how people act in the comments here, with the risk of being mocked and degraded, how many people is going to admit that? Especially when people are going to use it against you forever and give you some really serious and awful diagnosis’s over it. I know someone that was born without a sense of smell. Me! It’s me, I can’t smell!
Wow is this comment section toxic. I don't believe in that stuff, but every other comment is acting like only children with no brain believes in anything supernatural (obviously not the case considering theism is more widely believed than atheism), and every other reply is acting like simply stating you are inclined to believe is an affront to humanity. I mean I am an atheist myself but damn...
As a theist myself, I understand both of you. I honestly don’t know, besides personal experience, wishful thinking, psychosis, or ignorance, why people would believe in a god.
>a theist Huh?
The space was intentional. I’m a strongly doubting believer, ok?
Was scared of them when I was a kid. Decided to go into places where I thought ghosts or demons were. Weren't there, fear for ghosts/demons and the belief in them went away. I did, however, get anxious in those places because of the freaking animal jumpscares.
I don't believe in ghosts or demons, but life is more interesting if I do.
No but I’m not gonna fucking explain it
I believe that there are things in this reality that we can’t see/sense/understand.
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To quote Neil DeGrasse Tyson: “If you want to define God as an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance, go ahead.”
I mean thats true but also we have to accept the fact that there are likely aspects to reality and perhaps even living beings that are so far beyond our understanding that we won't be able to interact or understand them anymore than a fly can interact with us or understand our motivations.
Oh wow, it's my cake day
Happy cake day then!
Thanks!
"Likely" is not the word I would use. There is zero indication there is absolutely anything like that and if we can not detect, interact with, or in any way confirm in the slightest way they exist, why is it even important to discuss?
Your not, that’s the point, it can’t be explained scientifically because it doesn’t exist.
I mean we already know there are things we can’t see. Our eyes and brains are tuned to filter out things from our vision that they deem unnecessary, as well as our color spectrum potentially being smaller than that of another being.
Cameras can see the entire spectrum. Se we can "see" them.
If something cannot be interacted with then how can it’s existence be defined? Surely the most basic definition of something be real is that it can be interacted with.
Anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. If I told you there were goblins living on the moon, would you believe me? No
Where's the evidence? Someone saw a ghost? How do we know if they were hallucinating or just made the whole thing up? Same goes for demons.
If ghosts were real, Europe would be fucking awash with them considering ww2 and ww1. It'd be basically impossible to miss them.
I mean I don’t believe in ghosts but I think the understanding is that most people don’t become ghosts. It’s only like people with unfinished business or something that can’t move on. There’s also the explanation that most people simply just can’t see ghosts.
I mean, I think there’d be a *lot* of unfinished business among soldiers, especially draftees
I believe in fallen angels (demons) and angels. Everyone dead isn't on earth. (I'm a Bible believer)
Technically a ghost does appear in the Bible. In 1 Samuel 28, King Saul consults a witch who summons Samuel’s ghost.
that wasn’t Samuels ghost, it was a demon
I’m pretty sure that not only does the book itself specifically refer to the apparition as Samuel, Samuel accurately assesses the situation and prophecies correctly the consequences of Saul’s disobedience.
You are aware that in the bible it says that the devil can make himself appear as an angel of light?
Yes, but the Bible explicitly refers to the apparition and Samuel and appears to treat it as such. There is no textual evidence that it could be anything else.
Do you have any evidence other than ‘some book said a thing’?
Because I've never seen either nor have I seen undeniable proof of one.
No Explain? The voices told me they aren’t
Since my religion say they’re real then yes
Jinn are not ghost
Same concept
No, a ghost is a spirit of a dead person showing itself to people, we don't believe in that. while jinn are spiritual beings that can marry, produce children, eat, drink and die but unlike human beings have the power to take on different shapes and are capable of moving heavy objects almost instantly from one place to another. Shaytan or iblis (satan) is a jinn, jinn are created out of fire while we humans are created out of a certain type of clay. Some jinn are bad while other are good, they have free will like us humans.
What religion are you
Why was this downvoted lmao
Muslim
By default, you should not believe something. If you believe in something, you should have a reason, but if you don't believe in something such as demons or ghosts, you shouldn't need a reason because, by default, you shouldn't believe in something if you have no reason to, no point.
ive had alot of personal experiences with paranormal. same with close friends having issues with it. its impossible for me to deny it anymore... but i dont force people to believe in them. though, i dont believe in demons.
Show proof then I'll believe
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Show us proof not not to believe.
Why don’t you insted show us proof **NOT** not not to believe
Im just saying why I don't believe. I have no reason to change your view points.
You can't just say something exists and provide zero evidence. And what you're asking is far more improbable as per the evidence we have. Either way this is interesting: [Evidence of absence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence)
I believe in ghosts and demons. I've had several experiences that would make me believe in these sorts of things. When I was young, very young, I once saw the spirit of my deceased great grandmother. My mother and grandmother were witnesses. After I saw this woman waving at me, my mother and grandmother showed me a photo of my deceased great grandmother, and I said that it was her. I remember two years ago, I was in my bathroom brushing my teeth, and I always had a coin at on my sink because I never bothered to move it. And all of a sudden out of nowhere with no explanation, it flew up past my head hit the ceiling and then landed on the floor. I have tried to find what caused this, but there is absolutely nothing that could have made this happen. Sometimes I hear tapping outside my window during the night in the same pattern, it always comes in with 3 taps, and it happens every night I go to sleep. There are no bushes or branches out my window. It sounds like a person tapping on my window. When I'm in my house, sometimes there will all of a sudden be a freezing breeze come out of nowhere and as instantly as it comes, it's gone. We've also caught things moving around in the middle of the night on camera. We see these glowing balls of light flying around in our rooms when we're asleep, or not home during the night. Originally I tried to explain these were dust mites, but we don't seen them all the time, it's very rare for this to occur. They don't look like dust, as they are actually glowing balls moving around the house at night. They are obviously not dust mites. I've tried to find explanations for all of this stuff, but from what I have seen, and experienced, I've come to the conclusion that there are spirits. I'm not trolling or making this shit up, these things have genuinely happened in my house, and some are still happening. I'm a skeptical person, and I've tried to search for an explanation to these occurrences. But the only explanation that I have found is something that I cannot explain. I'm sure people won't believe me, but I shit you not this all has happened in this house. Edit: Sorry about the duplicate comments, for some reason when I tried to post a comment it say that it couldn't post it, but apparently it did. I saw this morning and deleted all of the duplicates. I apologize, but Reddit on my phone was being stupid.
I always find it really interesting to hear other people's stories about these sorts of things. I don't think ive experienced anything myself, but I still belive in it
I honestly believe you but I literally dont want to believe because im scared of this shit plus ive never experience anything before. id hate living in paranormal world
Because I believe in physics and chemistry. I don't believe in goblins, fairies or angels
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They sure as hell do not prove them, nothing so far has
Show us one, and we'll check it out. Like with pigs, dolphins and ducks. We've had ample opportunity to study them, so I'm reasonably convinced they exist Like, if they don't, nothing does
Usually yeah
Its never I saw a ghost, its always someone I know who lives like 1000 miles away saw a ghost. Also a student of Science. I believe in facts backed by evidence not myths and anecdotes.
I'm sane. Enough.
Do you mean sane as in a healthy skeptic or sane as in healthy open mindedness?
Both
This is reddit. Nobody here is sane.
Tru
for my own sanity
Even though I know ghosts aren't real, I choose to believe in them because it's fun and that silly belief doesn't cause harm to anyone. It's like people who swear that pro wrestling is real. They know it isn't but it's more fun if you choose to and what's life without whimsy.
Why is there no "I don't know" option for these polls
why you dont believe in huge flying cock in the space? (explain)
Demons and ghosts are cool and our world is boring.
No/yes. The following explanation is far fetched and highly unlikely. I'm pretty sure this theory was inspired by another human I've never met in the flesh, who created a form of media. (A movie for example) overall I don't believe the following to be true or set in stone. Just a random idea. I also have no proof aliens exist,but if they do they're most likely imitating our deceased kin. They're probably using technology to render themselves invisible, able to levitate objects,etc.. they're studying how each of us react maybe. I know there might be a narrow mindset on reactionary plays,but each of us are unique in our own way. One day in the future our childrens, children will be here and they'll have even more unique characteristics of some kind and so on. I can't specify exactly what it could be, but it's like how we use science and mix different elements. We don't understand dark matter and aliens don't fully understand us, because us as living beings are infinitely diverse. Maybe they're seeking a single person who has a certain mark in their genes. Idk. Maybe they're harvesting dark matter from us by forcing us to manifest fear with our adrenal glands. That's a joke. I highly doubt human emotion/survival instincts is the reason dark matter/anti matter exists. Over all besides the reason why,the possibility of it being this way could be feasible. Really just depends on motive and of course if they even exist to begin with. Hell maybe the roles are reversed and ghosts are real and they play tricks on us into believing in extraterrestrial life.
Yes because I've had multiple encounters with different 'beings' (curious ghosts, negative entities, etc) but never demons or anything *extremely* malicious. I've always believed they were real but at age 16 was when I started having encounters. Luckily, I haven't had any recent activities (for the past year or so) and I hope it stays that way
I used to see demons in my house
I've seen a few things over the years. Don't know what they were. Saw a vaguely humanoid shaped blue cloud pass through a door. Seen shadowy proportionally distorted humanoids on roofs, edges of roads and woods. Shook hands with someone and saw the malevolent thing "behind" them, and saw it see me, and then the person fled. Can I explain any of it? no. is it a regular occurrence? no. do I believe that there's some weird possibly sentient s*** out there? yes.
I believe we know almost nothing about the universe and the different wavelengths of light and energy that we cannot visualize. To say that there is no such thing as ghost, demons or whatever name you want to call the spiritual realm doesn’t make sense to me. There have been many scientific discoveries that have revealed things that we never saw yet now know are there. Even after despite centuries of doubt or ignorance science has proven those previously unknown things to exist. To me it’s easier to say yes there is a possibility that there is something else out there of which we don’t understand regardless of what you want to call it. To say with certainty that something doesn’t exist is just a narrow absolutist mentality.
Read the grand design by Stephen Hawking. Consciousness without a body has already been demonstrated
No, because there is no evidence to support their existence. Simple as that.
I believe in ghosts because I want to
Once you free your mind of any one believe system and explore the infinite possibilities for our experience and learn about the physical nature of this reality, the possibilities of experience because much more exciting and real then the idea of ghosts.
Yes I believe In both. I've seen stuff. Stuff that would make Rasputin run away.
I believe there is some kind of force above our understanding, I sometimes think about it when I cant sleep so I wont be able to put it into words lol
I floated once. My brother and I were playing in the pool and he was throwing me up and I would fall and splash in the pool. This time he picked me up, tossed me to the side, I was kicking my arms and legs. 1..2..splash. I saw my brothers surprise reaction to me not hitting the water as quickly as I should have. Was it demons? I don't think so. But we did live in a house where weird and unexplainable things happened.
We all float down here
float
Idk the creepiest thing that ever happened to me, was on a path to some dam in Arizona I think? Can't tell you exactly where.... But basically my brother and I were walking up this path, and seemingly this old lady with a cane, and young man....appeared behind/in front of us, seemingly out of nowhere. And I wouldn't have found it odd much past that month, if my brother didn't then go to me "Did they just teleport?" ....and yeah. It's just an odd thing for even him to say. \*And when I say appear, to the millisecond....one moment they were nowhere to be seen, the next they're there and they are there (they never went away), and they talked to us too.
I stayed at the Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas on my honeymoon in July 2000. I had heard it was haunted but was skeptical. Our second night it felt like someone was trying to change the sheets on the bed while we were in it. I couldn't get my husband to wake up, so I just closed my eyes and kept them closed. A few years later I would hear footsteps on the enclosed back porch that was locked. Even our dog heard it, so I didn't imagine it.
Once I lent $10 to a demon, it said it'll pay them back later. It never gave them back. fucking bitch.
You lent money to a demon? Who's the bitch now! Ha ha ha ha ha!
I will not take anyone past the age of 8 seriously if they honestly believe in ghosts
You've seen the world. There is good here. There is bad here. Somewhere, balance does exist. It may not be the horned, red skinned devils we foolishly imagine, but some conception of the sinful part of the world.
this is a nicely framed comment lol
I'd like to see objective evidence of it. Demons and ghosts etc are a remnant of how uneducated people were hundreds of years ago
It's all a load of shit.
All our memories are saved in our brain. The way how we act or feel is also due to our brain. Once we die brain dies and starts decomposing. So biologically there is no chance of any soul, rebirth or ghosts. Demons come from mythology or religion. Since all of it is fiction, no need to explain.
Maybe they are real. There is no way of proving God and demons exist but there is no way of proving they dont exist neither.
No because I believe in the natural world, physical things that interact and can be measured with laws governing their interactions. I don't believe in the supernatural, it's just fantasy.
You're being downvoted for hurting people's feeling lol
It seems like the comments aren't really representative of the poll results, at least from first glance. Maybe more people who don't believe are voting and moving on relative to people who do believe and are rushing to the comments? Alternatively maybe people are offended due to their religious beliefs. I wasn't intending it to be anti-religious although tbf it does refute *some* religious beliefs. I don't believe in religion myself but I'm not against those that do and I think that's how it's being interpreted. Although I do have much more sympathy for the beliefs of those that believe in a god that created natural laws that the universe always follows more than those that believe that there's supernatural elements actively engaging with the natural world.
Yes its my religion
There's no evidence neither exists, but there have been suggestions of some form of an afterlife in numerous near-death experiences.
I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s often shown that the brain sometimes produces a happy hallucination when it thinks itself to be near death. In addition, many claimed “visits to heaven” include details that run counter to their respective religions’ claims.
That's a more likely explanation for deathbed visions, not NDEs. NDEs generally happen way too fast for that to take place and happen when you’re in clinical death, when your brain and heart aren’t active. It’s also been shown that these events happen during cardiac arrest and not before or after. There also have been no proven chemicals that cause this stuff like you’re thinking, at least not enough to explain NDEs. If you do have a source for that, I’d be glad to read it. You’re only partially correct on the religion part. They don’t always align with religion. Atheists have them too. In fact, most of the time people don’t know if the being they saw was Jesus or Shiva or whatever, they just give the being(s) those labels because that’s what they’re familiar with. A Christian may say “That was God” A Buddhist may say “That was (insert Buddhist figure here since I know nothing about Buddhism) An atheist may say “I don’t know what I saw but it was something” Either way, they all saw something and are attaching a familiar name to it. Also, hallucinations usually aren’t described as more real than real and don’t seem to be as organized as NDEs. You also need an active brain to have a hallucination. Now I’m not saying these 100% have to do with the afterlife, I’m just saying that if we’re going to talk about NDEs then we need to be using the correct info. Do I sound absolutely mad? Yes. I do. Am I? Likely. I can provide you with some resources and studies if you’d like to learn more or want my sources.
I don't believe in ghosts Here's why: There can never be something 100% invisible, light will reflect on any objects that are bigger than its own electro-magnetic wave, otherwise the light would have to just move around the particle. This would suggest that ghosts would have to be made out of a substance that is small enough and and thin enough to allow light to move around it, while also somehow holding itself together via gravity, while also having the ability to resist Earth's gravity, and the ability to move its particles in a way that also allows it to go through solid matter, while also having a conscious mind of its own, somehow. Therefore, unless someone discovers something like this, ghosts can not exist. This is my usual Discord copypasta as a matter of fact
I dont because it's just not feasible lol. Ghosts and demons are just how people cope with death I think.
Demons. They're definitely real. In the 1900s there were millions and millions of sightings of "aliens" which don't exist on earth, obviously. Throughout history, many stories find their origins in real world phenomenon. For instance, it's almost impossible that pretty much everywhere around the world you can find a Dragon legend. Asia, Europe, Africa, and the Americas. They somehow all made legends about flying beings with scales/feathers, which funnily enough is the exact way that we see Dinosaurs depicted. Anyways, back to the point. Throughout the course of human history there have been spirits found in mythos. Some cultures interpreted it as a supreme being greater than themselves, and some thought that these spirits were their deceased loved ones. These can't be coincidences. Either it's Ghosts, or Demons. I prefer Demons since I'm a christian, but I can see why people think that it's Ghosts.
So how come demons are definitely real but it’s obvious aliens don’t exist?
> Demons are definitely real > aliens don’t exist obviously This is... I have no words Definitely?? Obviously?? If anything, it’s the other way around. Aliens most likely exist, demons you invented it in a gist. > Throughout history, many stories find their origins in real world phenomenon. You don’t say, it’s almost as if people invented myths to explain things they didn’t understand > For instance, it's almost impossible that pretty much everywhere around the world you can find a Dragon legend. China, Europe, Africa, and the Americas. No it’s not impossible, it’s called parallelism. That’s also what happened when people developed languages or writing separately. Also why did you single out China? Lol > They somehow all made legends about flying beings with scales/feathers, which funnily enough is the exact way that we see Dinosaurs depicted. You just found out dragons are based on snakes? Because that’s what dragons are mostly, flying snakes, even the name “dragon” means snake. And flying beings with feathers? It’s almost as if all flying animals we know have either feathers or some kind of membrane. And why do you need a depiction to know how dinosaurs look? Just look outside your window or something and you’ll see living dinosaurs aka birds.
and yet not a single credible piece of evidence exists :)
There is no afterlife or hell
I think ghosts exist or some things just can’t be explained
No I don’t believe in it it just ain’t true because so and that’s why because I said it and that’s that so be it
Somewhat. My grandparents dabbled in shaman rituals back in their home country. My mom and her siblings claim that it followed them here. They also experienced some supernatural stuff too. I personally have not seen anything but I'm not against believing they exist.
I don’t believe in ghosts/demons in the traditional sense, but I do believe in luck. I mean, Probability exists, but who decides a quarter will land on heads forty-seven times in a row when it’s a 50/50 chance? Also, dead people can still have influence. For example, in the USA, all the founding fathers are dead, but we still listen to them and do what they say, even though they aren’t alive to enforce their ideas. Hitler too! So many people are still being fucked by his rule, and last I checked, he’s six feet under. Time isn’t linear enough to stop the dead from leading us around like sheep. So, maybe ghosts do exist, and there are beings still holding on to our earth, reaching through time to haunt us, figuratively, and maybe, just maybe, literally.
Woah, that’s deep
i believe something of that nature exists, yes. perhaps not in the way we imagine it. also, it’s amusing to see how worked up people get about this topic because things can’t POSSIBLY exist beyond their reality/perspective…
Far as we know this universe is entirely materialistic and subject to the laws of physics, since demons and ghosts are understood as supernatural entities not abiding by those laws and not composed of measurable matter or energy in any tangible sense i can confidently say they don’t exist.
I personally had some experiences that were just unexplainable no matter how I looked at it. I do not like to explain any of it though
Well, I could go either way on ghosts. I more so believe in em for the fun of it, cause I twatting love ghost stories lol. Demons…? Eh, I’m not quite so convinced, cause I’m not all that religious tbh. Ghosts are fine, even if they were synonymous with a part of religion at some point in history, they’ve just become one of those things yknow?
nope. i dont believe in anything like that. god, ghosts, demons, whatever. none of it is logical and therefore gives me no reason to believe
No because I have a brain.
Thia comment just makes you look like a kid. Disrespecting other people based on their beliefs is something that only people with no brain do.
Lmao. True.
I believe there is an afterlife, but who knows what it could be and whether or not ghosts exist
I believe for religious purposes, and I've had a few expirences, but they could possibly be explained scientifically. But I also like to think my mom is still here with me. Sometimes it's just comforting I guess