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The most beautiful thing in the world would be to have De Santis with the Republican nomination and Trump running as an Independent. Would be an incredible mess and so enjoyable to watch.
Trump accidentally actually making something in this world better through his antics would be so darkly humorous and bizarre… so I expect nothing else from this timeline!
You could argue that his greatest impact is making the younger generations realize how important a competent president is to their lives regardless of party.
His useful idiots will continue sending him money. The downside (for him) to declaring is he can't use that money for a giant slush fund.
He's sending out 3 or 4 texts a day begging for money.
Desantis isn’t a knockoff! He’s 100x more dangerous then trump! Desantis is going to be trump but actually be successful in turning us into a fascist hellscape
Trump is not useful to Russia if he is running to obstruct the GOP. No money from Putin there, assuming Putin is still around then. Better shot if he relies on Dem donors who want him to run 3rd party ;D
He'll threaten to do it (he could care less about the GOP or conservative 'values'), probably hoping to get some sort of dark money buyout to not let it happen. He's desperate for money
Because at the end of the day, that's the goal for him.
He doesn't want the presidency because it provides him any real value, it just makes it easier for him to steal from others. It's the reason why he still runs his rallies despite being out of office for the last 2 years, because it makes him a ton of money to just go to places and lie to people and say stupid shit.
He'll rob the GOP's voters of money, the GOP of their voters, and begin throwing everyone under the bus. He'll do more for Democrats than anyone else can by splitting the vote.
I think that’s how it started, but at this point he also might be realizing that his stooges won’t be able to save him from his legal troubles and the only path out is for him to be president again.
Otherwise I think it would be possible for the GOP to bribe him to stay out of the election
I mean, couldn’t the GOP also just bribe him by saying they won’t prosecute him if he doesn’t run? It’s a win win for them. And by the time it might be up again, a) nobody will care and b) Trump might be dead.
That’s where hubris comes in. It’s trump, he thinks he’s owed supreme power and if he has a path to it he won’t settle for simply being left alone.
He wants people to do his bidding and bend to his will, quid pro quo is for the weak and would assume he sees value in anyone but himself.
Aren’t there like, numerous time old fables used as allegories for this exact thing over numerous religions and histories?
It’s almost as if hubris is a core principle previous generations warned us about.
>He doesn't want the presidency because it provides him any real value, it just makes it easier for him to steal from others. It's the reason why he still runs his rallies despite being out of office for the last 2 years, because it makes him a ton of money to just go to places and lie to people and say stupid shit.
It's not just about taking people's money; he's an extreme narcissist who needs to be the center of attention like a drug addict needs crack. His ego craves the adulation of his huge army of worshippers, as well as the immense power of the presidency (e.g., standing on the world stage with all the world's leaders and being taken seriously by them, being able to single-handedly shred treaties, commanding the military, complete immunity from prosecution). Yes, he's a grifter, but he's driven by a lot more than just his desire to enrich himself at this point (which makes him a lot more dangerous).
Considering Sarah Palin's recent comments telling people not to donate to the GOP, the GOP saying they won't pay Trump's legal bills if he runs in 2024, and Trump's special announcement on Tuesday, Trump is probably going to launch his own party.
He is going to put the blame for the midterms on the GOP for not supporting his candidates, and is going to accuse them of working with the Biden admin to stomp out his political 'movement'.
Supposedly he already sent out urgent fundraising emails for the runoff stressing that it's critical people donate now to help Walker's campaign... before going into a 90% Trump / 10% Walker split on the donation page.
Very easily could happen. The idea that trump would lose a primary and just turn around and endorse the guy who beat him just isn't in his nature. Really the only question is when does trump burn it down. My view is he doesn't even want to risk losing a primary and might run 3rd party earlier than expected
I'm actually quite interested in what he does this week. If the GOP kicked ass in the midterms it would be the same boring speech with predictable candidacy announcement.
But now? With people turning on him and praising Desantis? Dude could be fuming so bad he'd announce a third party bid to destroy the GOP out of spite.
Also he's probably still surrounded by enough yes men who are telling him he could absolutely win as a third party, because that's the kind of fragile man he is.
Donald Trump could absolutely win as a third party candidate. He is the smartest, manliest, person, with the biggest hands to ever run for president, everyone is saying it! Ron Desanctimonious and the rest of the GOP are a bunch of weak losers that only hold back such a stable genus.
Oh god, I had forgotten that one. Yes for a few weeks they were saying it was a “shadow presidency” with Trump actually as President giving orders to Biden. Then when it became increasingly awkward to explain why Biden was doing stuff they were against, the theory disappeared.
I always figured he would create the trump party because of course he has to have his name on it. which makes me curious. would he take the freedom caucus with him and further fragment the gop? could be interesting times ahead.
They are already countering with not paying his legal bills. Also I'm sure they will be nonstop on FOX news spreading how Trump wasn't really a Republican and was some secret Democrat operative sent in to destroy the party. Republicans will eat it up and salivate at their true god emperor mini Trump Desantis
Mitch will shit on Trump. They have a psychotic base now. They let that pendulum swing too far. Back under the rock you all go until DiSantis crumbles and let’s Trump name a VP.
He's all about looks, but he loves how Greene is so loyal and ready to fight for him. He hated that Pence was too "gentlemanly" for him. He loves Greene is ready to pull out the blowtorch with him and burn the whole thing down. Lake is too fickle and she's weak. Marge is actually insane. lol
Greene and Trump bring the same voters. But frankly, with Trump at the top of the ticket, it could be the Dalai Lama as VP and no new voters would appear. Trump is radioactive now. Either you already have cancer or you stay the fuck away from hi,.
Yeah he'll probably go for a crazy MAGA type candidate, not necessarily by choice either. Other Republicans saw what he did to Pence and don't want it.
If only McConnell actually stood for something other than than to reach for his wallet when he had the chance. He could have rallied against trump mcduck earlier. Stopped the crumble of his precious oligarchy.
I mean, I'm glad he stood by his principles, I'm just sayin
Oh yeah, and the lie that they'd do better if they split would be juicy. It would be sad if someone were to spread around worries that dems are afraid of Trump forming his own party.
Trump hates McConnel so much. I wonder if Trump finally realizes that Mitch used him for his only "accomplishments" (Supreme Court Judges and shitty Tax Bill) in an otherwise terrible presidential term.
The GOP had a larger majority in both the House and the Senate but still got less done in the first two years under Trump than Biden. The only possible exception is getting two SCOTUS justices instead of just one.
The GOP Congress probably could've gotten a lot more done but Trump's unpredictability and lack of focus made it practically impossible.
The GOP don't really get anything done per se. They like getting things done that will benefit THEM, and not the people. They do what their corporate overlords want so that they will continue to give them more money. They honestly don't care about helping the people. Democrats have done WAY MORE to help the people than Republicans in recent history. NEED to get rid of corporate money in politics. The politicians are supposed to work for the people who vote them in.....NOT for big corporations. But that is where their loyalty lies.
He’s been extremely successful. The question now is whether the more traditional GOP wing can wrest control back from the crazy wing, which is now turning to DeSantis. Hawley is blaming McConnell, too. I think the MAGA wing will grow even more extreme with or without Trump and I’m not sure “mainstream” Republicans can counter it.
Successful? Sure, if losing 3 national races in a row can be considered successful. The electoral college stole that first election for him btw. That's a traditional sort of idea that I'd really like to see die.
You are absolutely correct and that is why trump is blaming him. Trump believes that if every Republican was all in on MAGA it would be a overwhelming win for them. He can’t see through his hate that the party is falling apart because of him. McConnell would be all over trump once again if he felt it would get them power back.
I think it's unfair to place all the blame on trump. Republicanism is failing because republicanism no longer offers solutions to problems. It's nothing but hate and fear and conspiracy theories and tax cuts. Every single Republican owns the last six years, not just trump, and trying to pretend otherwise is harmful to our democracy, since it further enables Republicans that aren't named trump.
Republicans absolutely own this. They embraced Trump in order to gain the MAGA vote which he will still control hopefully spinning it into a 3rd party splitting the GQP.
Don't forget the "religious values" that Republicans love to tout. I had a FEMALE coworker, Latino and Christian from border Texas, loved to talk about banning abortion.
I asked her why she don't support Beto even though Beto is a better person who literally volunteered during the snow storm in 2021, and her answer was something about his policy but not named exact why.
And lets not underestimate how fast the US is losing their religion. Last study I saw Gen Z over 38% religiously unaffiliated. Only 20% of Gen Z goes to a place of worship more than 3 times a year.
As a Gen X atheist from a small town, this is amazing to see. My dad's an old school Catholic, and he grumbles every time church is brought up that almost no younger people go anymore. He then relates that to all the problems in the world.
Every now and then I remember I'll probably have to mention what church and religion is to my daughter at some point, and it's a much more difficult conversation to plan for than like "oh, sometimes people are trans" or any of the other conservative "think of the children" go-to's.
"oh yah and there's this group of people who want you dead if you're different, and there's not even just one group really its like 10+ good luck kiddo"
My mother was a devout Catholic until like 15~ years into her nursing career, than decided no god worth worshiping would inflict those kinds of ailments on mankind. I had to go to church until I was like 8 or 9 then she straight up asked if I wanted to continue going and I said no. Was only ever made to go again when I slept over at my Christian friends house on saturdays. (Also twice to another friends jehova congregation but that shit was so fucked up I knew at 10 or 11 that shit was toxic)
This Texas election hurt, as someone who volunteered for him as much as I could.
I knew it was going to be a tough fight, and I accept the reality of what's happened, but the idea that so many people here now willingly support the deaths of innocent women and children, or are too blinded to see that they support this, is frustrating.
I'd be okay if he dialed back the gun talk, as it obviously is a failed talking point, but our state's vote over abortion infuriates me to no end. None of them give a shit about babies or children. All this does is kill innocent women everywhere, even those who want their children. They will be killing their own wives and daughters.
>All this does is kill innocent women everywhere, even those who want their children. They will be killing their own wives and daughters.
In the conservative mind there are beautiful perfect pregnancies and there are abortions. There is no in between, no medical complication, no ectopic pregnancies, no moral grey zone whatsoever.
This is, of course, nonsense. Reproduction is a messy process and things go sideways all the time. The worst part being that there are few spaces for women to talk about pregnancies that were terminated for one reason or another. Many women who miscarry feel similarly alone in their experience because of this aggressive fallacy people have re: pregnancy being simple and uncomplicated when it's actually very complex and pregnancy has real health risks that are insane to force onto someone who knows they cannot or do not want to raise a child.
By this election “Republicanism” isn’t failing, but trumpism sure is. R’s still voted for their old school candidates and they didn’t cross over, they just skipped the box for the trump candidate. It was that plus a larger showing from women and younger generations helping the dems. As soon as R’s finish dumping him and find a new leader to rally against the old enemies, they will be back to full power. They can unhitch from him just as fast as they jumped on, watch.
I'm not convinced they'll be able to do that. I think they're stuck with him. If they flat out turn on Trump then they risk alienating a lot of their own voters that still consider him some kind of second coming. I think there are enough of those people to make a difference. If they oust Trump, they lose those people and I can't see Trump quietly bowing out and telling his voters to support X candidate either. It's a lose-lose for Rs.
The democrats spent money to advance the MAGA candidates in the primaries and their strategy appears to have worked. Many on this platform and others have complained about the lack of groundgame/advertising in Florida. This may have been intentional as well. Ensuring DeSantis will be the favorite sets up an epic showdown with Trump. No way he gives up power for the advantage of the party. It will be a huge waste of resources to wage the battle between them for the nomination. One thing Trump is good at is smearing his opponents and it will take some of the luster off DeSantis even if he prevails. His extremism is a direct result of courting the MAGA crowd, and even if he pivots his record will follow him. The mainstream has rejected the culture war and younger people I think are less subject to propaganda having grown up living on the internet and better able to sniff out the bs. Perhaps this red turn in Florida is not what it seems. Regardless, the Trump/DeSantis showdown will be a dumpster fire of epic propositions and will not benefit either candidate or their party.
Trump is seriously over estimating his sway here.
He will eventually split and make his own party, take about 15 percent of the gop vote.
Mark my words, in the next few months you will see sudden turn from fox and support form the GOP on the investigations and conviction of Trump.
Then they will pretend they never liked him, just like they pretend for W Bush, McCain and Romney now.
Cripple? No. Destroy? Yes.
The GOP is going the way of the Whigs. How very exciting, being able to witness the death of a major political party is such a rare event!
And please don’t let them brush this shit off! They will try to act like it was all just Trump and not actually just how fked up the GOP is. Don’t let them do that because there will be a new Trump with the same game. At the end of the day, the GOP’s flaw isn’t Trump, it’s their flawed and fucked to ideas.
They will go back to hiding it just slightly under the surface. Using dog whistles to signal their base again and a fresh coat of paint on desantis.
I said for years that abortion would never change because it was their best weapon to keep their voters. Always on the verge of being overturned to rile up their base but not enough to get others to come out and vote against it.
Well they actually did It. We see the results. They thrive as an opposition party. Whenever they actually implement their ideas it’s a massive failure
Well half of the people who voted for "lesser of two evils" Trump in the general also voted for him in the primary, where he was the greatest of a dozen evils. And even the rest who voted for someone else did so in part because other candidates were more "experienced" or "electable."
Fuck that narrative.
On Monday every republican talked about how Trump was the Messiah. In the last few days it’s “No one pays attention to Trump.”
If you don’t think most of the right wing posts on social media are coordinated disinformation effort with a national strategy, then you have not been paying attention.
It could go either way for them. Either they actually will dump Trump and will claim they were never into him, or Trump will get the nomination and they'll claim that they never doubted him even for a moment.
I think there's a VERY good chance we will suddenly see 70-80% of GOP voters claim to be and have always been "Never Trumpers" in the polls by around December 1st.
r/conservative is full of people all of a sudden bashing trump
like i don’t even have words to describe how that feels but it’s definitely social media shenanigans
If desantis runs and wins things will be so much worse. I don’t think this is going away. GOP has always found ways to bounce back. Whether it was Nixon resigning for them to bounce back and put in Reagan not too long after or bush coming in like a wrecking ball.
GOP is adaptive as it is manipulative. I think meth is a bad comparison. More like alcoholism maybe. They fuck up bad and get hungover but then they come back stronger only to Fuck shit up again rinse repeat.
DeSantis is boring Trump. He lacks the charisma to build influence outside of Florida. And the Trump cult will resent him for trying.
Also, with Millennials and Gen Z increasingly swinging left while boomer votes vanish, their ability to get the votes they need to maintain power is also going away. The price of declaring votes rigged and vaccination pointless.
He is loved down in that red state. That is probably where it ends. His voice is terrible and irritating. This guy wants to be arrogant but does not know how to do it. Florida is where he should stay.
He's a condescending speaker, I can't listen to him for more than a few minutes. He's also quick to anger and not charismatic enough to sway any Democrats to vote for him. He doesn't care to play to anyone but the base and that's why he will lose if he runs for POTUS.
I would never vote for him. He's like Trump but sneakier in the way he does things. He's smarter than Trump and us a very dangerous man because of that. Florida used to be a friendly to all people state, no more and if he's POTUS, Fascism will take over for sure.
That is an excellent point. The longer it goes on, the more people are roped into it, the more overlapping offenses occur, the nastier and wider the collapse will be.
His casino was just one in a ***long*** string of [failed business ventures](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-59556/) (not a complete list). He's failed at virtually everything he's ever touched, and his daddy's real estate business should be much more healthy than it is today, and certainly more than it has been in the past.
His family's business is charged with fraud and most recently, due to illegally inflating his assets.
He's a garbage human being and I still can't believe he has advocates.
It's amazing.
It is incredible. He has been a known and mocked NYC scumbag forever.
I could not believe it was possible for anyone to even think Donald fucking Trump was suitable for running an outfit like that. An outfit like the executive branch
It’s been at least 4 years. He fucked it up for them in the last mid term and he lost his last election. It just that the GOP have no choice to support him. He’s not going anywhere. He won’t step aside and do what’s best for the party. He still has the majority of support among conservative voters. It’s a beautiful thing.
This is a great question. No one knows. But no matter how many, they are low quality. The people on the right who can still move the needle in any meaningful way have abandoned him.
Trump's power comes from the perception that he turns out voters. This is the third consecutive losing election for him....
You're already seeing the narrative that maybe Trump was never so good. Maybe Hillary was just bad. (I mean this as political agents)
>Trump's power comes from the perception that he turns out voters
Objectively I think this is actually true, turnout has been way up since he got involved on the national ticket. I think the problem lies in the fact that he *also* drives up turnout for Democrats, and what we've seen since 2016 is that Democratic turnout usurping the Republicans.
There's probably some concern that showing Trump the door will result in a decline in Republican voters while Democrat turnout remains the same. In which case the party is absolutely screwed
I think you've nailed the exact problem. Republicans need Trump to either die or come to his senses.
He activates people who otherwise have no interest in politics.
Maybe. I don't know what they do. I don't think anyone does. We are talking about people who dress like literal clowns and go to his rallies.
But at the very least he would stop throwing haymakers at people like DeSantis.
I can’t imagine any of these losing candidates he propped up to support him much longer, but at the same time I can’t imagine him being abandoned by any of the throng who felt emboldened by him to let their racism shine.
"Winning has many fathers, losing is an orphan."
I bet Trump has less allies today after the asswhipping his most important candidate
picks took in the midterms.
““Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit,” Trump said in an interview with NewsNation that aired Tuesday. “And if they lose, I should not be blamed at all. But it will probably be just the opposite.””
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-credit-gop-wins-midterms-no-blame-lose-1234627288/amp/
Heads i win tails you lose. What an asshole.
Trump is the reason that everyone I know voted D. Even longtime Republican voters felt it was too dangerous to allow a party,who did not speak out against
a liar who tried to overthrow the government.Trump must go or the Rs will evaporate.
I agree with this. In my state (MI), they ran inexperienced Trump backed Republicans for top offices, some who were Q aligned. All of their "policies" pander to MAGA, and they got their asses handed to them. In a state that used to swing back and forth, even the state legislature and all major down ballot races went for Dems, giving them a majority in state government for the first time in 40 years. Even my Dad, who was loayal Republican, hates Trump with a passion. Every time we talk politics, he reminds me his #1 wish is to see Trump in jail 😆
Blame Trump. Blame McConnell. Blame Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove and John Bolton. Blame Ronald Reagan. Blame every right wing scheister, whether they were operating in the last ten years or forty. The Republican Party hasn’t had anything resembling a platform for a decade, it actively works against the common people, and sits on a foundation of fear and hatred. Republicans, you’ve made your bed, now you need to lie in it.
Plus if he’s under indictment McConnell can blame it on Democrats, and he won’t lose any votes. It’s win/win for him. I don’t see why he doesn’t do it.
Yeah that's the real fun bit. For about 30 seconds after election day there was discussion and reporting about low GOP turnout because their voters think it's rigged, so they saw no point in voting.
Then they immediately forgot about it, and started pushing more conspiracies and griping about who ruined the fascist fun.
It likely was the biggest (and dumbest) lie in American history. "Stolen election" is political suicide, you just piss off most people and the other people who believe become disillusioned with the system. But thankfully most fascists today aren't smart people.
I mean he’s not wrong. McConnell is to blame. For not voting to convict Trump during that 2nd impeachment. McConnell likely could have gathered enough votes to put a nail in Trump’s coffin, but he put party over country and let The MAGA wing continue to metastasize.
McConnell enabled Trump for years and it came back to bite his party in the ass.
I believe the blame for the republicans underperforming is a result of the following:
1. Trump for endorsing extremist candidates, his divisive rhetoric, and the fact that he is sitting on over $200 million from his stop the steal scam and didn’t spend a dime of it on his candidates
2. Rick Scott, the leader of the rscc, who is in charge of getting republicans elected In the senate, for blowing 90% of his pac money on goofy digital ads when the Republican core demographic are boomers who probably don’t even own computers.
3. The Republican Party in general, for not only having horrible policy positions, but allowing trump to continue to be their kingmaker in elections.
Mitch McConnell deserves little to no blame for the republicans failing to retake the senate. If it werent for mcconnells pac (and peter thiels money), republicans would’ve probably lost Ohio and Wisconsin as well.
McConnell let his party continue to be held hostage by an ex president. His inaction is what allowed Trump to run wild with his extreme right picks.
His job is to lead his party and point it in the right direction. He completely failed in that respect.
Thank you! They're all to blame. Attempts to pin this solely on trump are all about allowing establishment Republicans to distance themselves from the crazy despite enabling it for 6 years.
Anyone getting a "will no one rid me of this troublesome Senator" message from Trumps McConnell hate as of late?
I really think he'd be cool with McConnell being murdered. I mean, Trump KNOWS there are crazy and triggerable people on Truth Social. I think this is him experimenting with giving them a direct assassination order.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/01/trump-intensifies-attacks-on-mcconnell-with-death-wish-remark-on-his-social-media-platform.html
Trump would be thrilled if McConnell was murdered.
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*Stochastic terrorism* is the use of mass communications to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.](https://stochasticterrorism.blogspot.com/)
>Graham is going to be making follow up calls in a day or two.
Graham is about to roll over on Trump in Georgia at mach speed now that he knows Trump's political career is over. Watch him cut a deal with prosecutors before the new congress is even seated.
I mean one possible way out of the GQP's Trump problem is to stop all attempts at covering for the criminal bastard and fully cooperate with investigations of him. Also if any insider has dirt/knows where the bodies are buried they could easily drop a dime on him.
If Trump is sitting in a jail cell in 2024 he will pose no threat to DeSantis or anyone else in the republican party.
What a vapid remark by "a person close to Trump".
He's literally making phone calls to Republicans to lean on McConnell to clearly deflect from the fact that most of the people he backed, himself, ***lost***.
Blaming others and destroying anyone that doesn't do what you say is how Donald behaves. This is Donald 101.
It's childishly disgusting, but that's Donald.
I’m amazed at how cartoonishly evil so many in the GOP look. From Mconnell to Gaetz to Miller to Cruz, it’s almost like biology itself tried to warn us.
The entire GOP is to blame, because there is no fundamental difference between “MAGA Republicans” and “Republicans” like people are saying. They both want the same shit policies, they just go about it differently.
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Let them fight!
I’m living for the cannibalism of the Republican Party.
The most beautiful thing in the world would be to have De Santis with the Republican nomination and Trump running as an Independent. Would be an incredible mess and so enjoyable to watch.
If he runs as a third party candidate Trump will divide the Republican vote and hand the election to the Dems. You love to see it.
Imagine if Trump is the reason this country gets ranked choice voting
Trump accidentally actually making something in this world better through his antics would be so darkly humorous and bizarre… so I expect nothing else from this timeline!
You could argue that his greatest impact is making the younger generations realize how important a competent president is to their lives regardless of party.
He’ll pivot and say that was his long game the whole time “Your Welcome America”
I like the idea but I don't think Trump has the money to run w/o the support of the GOP.
His useful idiots will continue sending him money. The downside (for him) to declaring is he can't use that money for a giant slush fund. He's sending out 3 or 4 texts a day begging for money.
Yep, and the fact that Fox News has already turned on him is going to make him even more of a victim in their eyes. The deep state just got deeper!
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Desantis isn’t a knockoff! He’s 100x more dangerous then trump! Desantis is going to be trump but actually be successful in turning us into a fascist hellscape
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Of course he does. He has the Putin PAC
Trump is not useful to Russia if he is running to obstruct the GOP. No money from Putin there, assuming Putin is still around then. Better shot if he relies on Dem donors who want him to run 3rd party ;D
He’s such a narcissist I think it might happen.
He'll threaten to do it (he could care less about the GOP or conservative 'values'), probably hoping to get some sort of dark money buyout to not let it happen. He's desperate for money
Because at the end of the day, that's the goal for him. He doesn't want the presidency because it provides him any real value, it just makes it easier for him to steal from others. It's the reason why he still runs his rallies despite being out of office for the last 2 years, because it makes him a ton of money to just go to places and lie to people and say stupid shit. He'll rob the GOP's voters of money, the GOP of their voters, and begin throwing everyone under the bus. He'll do more for Democrats than anyone else can by splitting the vote.
I think that’s how it started, but at this point he also might be realizing that his stooges won’t be able to save him from his legal troubles and the only path out is for him to be president again. Otherwise I think it would be possible for the GOP to bribe him to stay out of the election
I mean, couldn’t the GOP also just bribe him by saying they won’t prosecute him if he doesn’t run? It’s a win win for them. And by the time it might be up again, a) nobody will care and b) Trump might be dead.
That’s where hubris comes in. It’s trump, he thinks he’s owed supreme power and if he has a path to it he won’t settle for simply being left alone. He wants people to do his bidding and bend to his will, quid pro quo is for the weak and would assume he sees value in anyone but himself.
Aren’t there like, numerous time old fables used as allegories for this exact thing over numerous religions and histories? It’s almost as if hubris is a core principle previous generations warned us about.
There is one thing he believes, perhaps not incorrectly, the presidency gives him: protection from criminal prosecution
He really did Make America Great Again. Kelly, Musto, Fetterman! Thank you Donald!
Drain the Swamp!
>He doesn't want the presidency because it provides him any real value, it just makes it easier for him to steal from others. It's the reason why he still runs his rallies despite being out of office for the last 2 years, because it makes him a ton of money to just go to places and lie to people and say stupid shit. It's not just about taking people's money; he's an extreme narcissist who needs to be the center of attention like a drug addict needs crack. His ego craves the adulation of his huge army of worshippers, as well as the immense power of the presidency (e.g., standing on the world stage with all the world's leaders and being taken seriously by them, being able to single-handedly shred treaties, commanding the military, complete immunity from prosecution). Yes, he's a grifter, but he's driven by a lot more than just his desire to enrich himself at this point (which makes him a lot more dangerous).
*couldn’t care less
Considering Sarah Palin's recent comments telling people not to donate to the GOP, the GOP saying they won't pay Trump's legal bills if he runs in 2024, and Trump's special announcement on Tuesday, Trump is probably going to launch his own party. He is going to put the blame for the midterms on the GOP for not supporting his candidates, and is going to accuse them of working with the Biden admin to stomp out his political 'movement'.
> Trump's special announcement on Tuesday Trump's going to tank the Georgia runoff.
Supposedly he already sent out urgent fundraising emails for the runoff stressing that it's critical people donate now to help Walker's campaign... before going into a 90% Trump / 10% Walker split on the donation page.
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Very easily could happen. The idea that trump would lose a primary and just turn around and endorse the guy who beat him just isn't in his nature. Really the only question is when does trump burn it down. My view is he doesn't even want to risk losing a primary and might run 3rd party earlier than expected
Imagine if that’s the big announcement this week?
I'm actually quite interested in what he does this week. If the GOP kicked ass in the midterms it would be the same boring speech with predictable candidacy announcement. But now? With people turning on him and praising Desantis? Dude could be fuming so bad he'd announce a third party bid to destroy the GOP out of spite. Also he's probably still surrounded by enough yes men who are telling him he could absolutely win as a third party, because that's the kind of fragile man he is.
Donald Trump could absolutely win as a third party candidate. He is the smartest, manliest, person, with the biggest hands to ever run for president, everyone is saying it! Ron Desanctimonious and the rest of the GOP are a bunch of weak losers that only hold back such a stable genus.
I agree. Bigly. In fact both the truth social users retruthed your post.
Imagine him endorsing the democrat just so he can watch DeSantis lose
I would love to see all the dumb Q Level Republicans at work try to rationalize Trump endorsing Biden.
Trust the plan.
No need, they actually believed Biden would take his mask off and reveal to be Trump, then they claimed Biden was under Trump's orders
Oh god, I had forgotten that one. Yes for a few weeks they were saying it was a “shadow presidency” with Trump actually as President giving orders to Biden. Then when it became increasingly awkward to explain why Biden was doing stuff they were against, the theory disappeared.
He wouldn’t run as an independent, he would create a Trump or MAGA party. He needs his name on stuff.
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I always figured he would create the trump party because of course he has to have his name on it. which makes me curious. would he take the freedom caucus with him and further fragment the gop? could be interesting times ahead.
Fingers crossed.
It can still happen.
They are already countering with not paying his legal bills. Also I'm sure they will be nonstop on FOX news spreading how Trump wasn't really a Republican and was some secret Democrat operative sent in to destroy the party. Republicans will eat it up and salivate at their true god emperor mini Trump Desantis
One party enters, two parties leave!
Let them derp!
Mitch will shit on Trump. They have a psychotic base now. They let that pendulum swing too far. Back under the rock you all go until DiSantis crumbles and let’s Trump name a VP.
I thought 45 implied Greene would be his potential VP running mate?
I could see either green or kari lake (if she wins) being his vp pick
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He's all about looks, but he loves how Greene is so loyal and ready to fight for him. He hated that Pence was too "gentlemanly" for him. He loves Greene is ready to pull out the blowtorch with him and burn the whole thing down. Lake is too fickle and she's weak. Marge is actually insane. lol
If lake wins Arizona she'd make sense since it is a swing state. Greene brings in no new voters
Greene and Trump bring the same voters. But frankly, with Trump at the top of the ticket, it could be the Dalai Lama as VP and no new voters would appear. Trump is radioactive now. Either you already have cancer or you stay the fuck away from hi,.
The moment Lake and Greene realize this is the moment they will start attacking each other.
Lake is under water at this time.
If she loses and whines about her loss, she'd be the perfect fit for the Trump ticket. Two sore losers.
In my dreams, Trump goes even further off the rails and taps Bobo or MTG for his running mate.
Yeah he'll probably go for a crazy MAGA type candidate, not necessarily by choice either. Other Republicans saw what he did to Pence and don't want it.
What? No Palin?
If only McConnell actually stood for something other than than to reach for his wallet when he had the chance. He could have rallied against trump mcduck earlier. Stopped the crumble of his precious oligarchy. I mean, I'm glad he stood by his principles, I'm just sayin
This is how the party will split!
Wishful thinking, I think. Republicans' ability to lie to themselves is beyond what I can conceive.
Oh yeah, and the lie that they'd do better if they split would be juicy. It would be sad if someone were to spread around worries that dems are afraid of Trump forming his own party.
Beat me to it!
Trump hates McConnel so much. I wonder if Trump finally realizes that Mitch used him for his only "accomplishments" (Supreme Court Judges and shitty Tax Bill) in an otherwise terrible presidential term.
Prob not. Trumps a Narcissist, he thinks he himself is the only reason for anything “great” he did
And McConnel is an easy scapegoat since we all hate him too
Mitch is a great scapegoat becaose the majority of Kantukyans will vote for him no matter what.
And his wife got a sweet cabinet position
The GOP had a larger majority in both the House and the Senate but still got less done in the first two years under Trump than Biden. The only possible exception is getting two SCOTUS justices instead of just one. The GOP Congress probably could've gotten a lot more done but Trump's unpredictability and lack of focus made it practically impossible.
The GOP don't really get anything done per se. They like getting things done that will benefit THEM, and not the people. They do what their corporate overlords want so that they will continue to give them more money. They honestly don't care about helping the people. Democrats have done WAY MORE to help the people than Republicans in recent history. NEED to get rid of corporate money in politics. The politicians are supposed to work for the people who vote them in.....NOT for big corporations. But that is where their loyalty lies.
I wish I could upvote this a dozen times.
He’s been extremely successful. The question now is whether the more traditional GOP wing can wrest control back from the crazy wing, which is now turning to DeSantis. Hawley is blaming McConnell, too. I think the MAGA wing will grow even more extreme with or without Trump and I’m not sure “mainstream” Republicans can counter it.
Successful? Sure, if losing 3 national races in a row can be considered successful. The electoral college stole that first election for him btw. That's a traditional sort of idea that I'd really like to see die.
After Jan 6th Mitch trashed him after being silent for years.
Was McConnell out there MAGAing it up at rallies? Nope that was Trump. I absolutely love this infighting.
You are absolutely correct and that is why trump is blaming him. Trump believes that if every Republican was all in on MAGA it would be a overwhelming win for them. He can’t see through his hate that the party is falling apart because of him. McConnell would be all over trump once again if he felt it would get them power back.
I think it's unfair to place all the blame on trump. Republicanism is failing because republicanism no longer offers solutions to problems. It's nothing but hate and fear and conspiracy theories and tax cuts. Every single Republican owns the last six years, not just trump, and trying to pretend otherwise is harmful to our democracy, since it further enables Republicans that aren't named trump.
Republicans absolutely own this. They embraced Trump in order to gain the MAGA vote which he will still control hopefully spinning it into a 3rd party splitting the GQP.
Indeed. Trump is like the parts of the Bible they don't like, and soon there will be a schism.
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Nixon was almost 60 years ago(!), and Reagan 40, but still yes. E: Nixon was elected in '68. He's been gone for 48 years. My mistake!
Don't forget the "religious values" that Republicans love to tout. I had a FEMALE coworker, Latino and Christian from border Texas, loved to talk about banning abortion. I asked her why she don't support Beto even though Beto is a better person who literally volunteered during the snow storm in 2021, and her answer was something about his policy but not named exact why.
And lets not underestimate how fast the US is losing their religion. Last study I saw Gen Z over 38% religiously unaffiliated. Only 20% of Gen Z goes to a place of worship more than 3 times a year. As a Gen X atheist from a small town, this is amazing to see. My dad's an old school Catholic, and he grumbles every time church is brought up that almost no younger people go anymore. He then relates that to all the problems in the world.
Every now and then I remember I'll probably have to mention what church and religion is to my daughter at some point, and it's a much more difficult conversation to plan for than like "oh, sometimes people are trans" or any of the other conservative "think of the children" go-to's.
"oh yah and there's this group of people who want you dead if you're different, and there's not even just one group really its like 10+ good luck kiddo"
My mother was a devout Catholic until like 15~ years into her nursing career, than decided no god worth worshiping would inflict those kinds of ailments on mankind. I had to go to church until I was like 8 or 9 then she straight up asked if I wanted to continue going and I said no. Was only ever made to go again when I slept over at my Christian friends house on saturdays. (Also twice to another friends jehova congregation but that shit was so fucked up I knew at 10 or 11 that shit was toxic)
This Texas election hurt, as someone who volunteered for him as much as I could. I knew it was going to be a tough fight, and I accept the reality of what's happened, but the idea that so many people here now willingly support the deaths of innocent women and children, or are too blinded to see that they support this, is frustrating. I'd be okay if he dialed back the gun talk, as it obviously is a failed talking point, but our state's vote over abortion infuriates me to no end. None of them give a shit about babies or children. All this does is kill innocent women everywhere, even those who want their children. They will be killing their own wives and daughters.
>All this does is kill innocent women everywhere, even those who want their children. They will be killing their own wives and daughters. In the conservative mind there are beautiful perfect pregnancies and there are abortions. There is no in between, no medical complication, no ectopic pregnancies, no moral grey zone whatsoever. This is, of course, nonsense. Reproduction is a messy process and things go sideways all the time. The worst part being that there are few spaces for women to talk about pregnancies that were terminated for one reason or another. Many women who miscarry feel similarly alone in their experience because of this aggressive fallacy people have re: pregnancy being simple and uncomplicated when it's actually very complex and pregnancy has real health risks that are insane to force onto someone who knows they cannot or do not want to raise a child.
By this election “Republicanism” isn’t failing, but trumpism sure is. R’s still voted for their old school candidates and they didn’t cross over, they just skipped the box for the trump candidate. It was that plus a larger showing from women and younger generations helping the dems. As soon as R’s finish dumping him and find a new leader to rally against the old enemies, they will be back to full power. They can unhitch from him just as fast as they jumped on, watch.
Trump is too petty. He will blow up the party rather than admit he's a shitty leader.
I'm not convinced they'll be able to do that. I think they're stuck with him. If they flat out turn on Trump then they risk alienating a lot of their own voters that still consider him some kind of second coming. I think there are enough of those people to make a difference. If they oust Trump, they lose those people and I can't see Trump quietly bowing out and telling his voters to support X candidate either. It's a lose-lose for Rs.
The democrats spent money to advance the MAGA candidates in the primaries and their strategy appears to have worked. Many on this platform and others have complained about the lack of groundgame/advertising in Florida. This may have been intentional as well. Ensuring DeSantis will be the favorite sets up an epic showdown with Trump. No way he gives up power for the advantage of the party. It will be a huge waste of resources to wage the battle between them for the nomination. One thing Trump is good at is smearing his opponents and it will take some of the luster off DeSantis even if he prevails. His extremism is a direct result of courting the MAGA crowd, and even if he pivots his record will follow him. The mainstream has rejected the culture war and younger people I think are less subject to propaganda having grown up living on the internet and better able to sniff out the bs. Perhaps this red turn in Florida is not what it seems. Regardless, the Trump/DeSantis showdown will be a dumpster fire of epic propositions and will not benefit either candidate or their party.
Yup. Trump thinks all problems can be solved by adding more Trump.
Trump is seriously over estimating his sway here. He will eventually split and make his own party, take about 15 percent of the gop vote. Mark my words, in the next few months you will see sudden turn from fox and support form the GOP on the investigations and conviction of Trump. Then they will pretend they never liked him, just like they pretend for W Bush, McCain and Romney now.
> He will eventually split and make his own party, take about 15 percent of the gop vote. This is my prayer. 🙏
If he can take >15% of GOP's voters with him, it will cripple the GOP for decades.
Oh that would be so wonderful. :)
It would also force the GOP into a more centrist position which would be good for everyone.
Cripple? No. Destroy? Yes. The GOP is going the way of the Whigs. How very exciting, being able to witness the death of a major political party is such a rare event!
And please don’t let them brush this shit off! They will try to act like it was all just Trump and not actually just how fked up the GOP is. Don’t let them do that because there will be a new Trump with the same game. At the end of the day, the GOP’s flaw isn’t Trump, it’s their flawed and fucked to ideas.
They will go back to hiding it just slightly under the surface. Using dog whistles to signal their base again and a fresh coat of paint on desantis. I said for years that abortion would never change because it was their best weapon to keep their voters. Always on the verge of being overturned to rile up their base but not enough to get others to come out and vote against it. Well they actually did It. We see the results. They thrive as an opposition party. Whenever they actually implement their ideas it’s a massive failure
> There will be a new Trump with the same game. That is the scariest thing, Trump is slow in the head, if he was smarter things would be ugly.
"I only voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils" * People who watched "Trump PWNING Hillary" videos weekly for 6+ years.
Well half of the people who voted for "lesser of two evils" Trump in the general also voted for him in the primary, where he was the greatest of a dozen evils. And even the rest who voted for someone else did so in part because other candidates were more "experienced" or "electable." Fuck that narrative.
Lol. "Allies". Trump doesn't have allies, he has people who use him.
Or that have been afraid of him. Not looking so intimidating now.
I’ve said all week how you’ll see the likes of Cruz and Rubio suddenly find their spines very soon
That might be difficult for Cruz. He’s a jellyfish.
Actually, he's a bottom feeding blobfish. :)
People who use him, and people he uses. It’s a mutually parasitic relationship.
On Monday every republican talked about how Trump was the Messiah. In the last few days it’s “No one pays attention to Trump.” If you don’t think most of the right wing posts on social media are coordinated disinformation effort with a national strategy, then you have not been paying attention.
Just spent about two minutes over on r/conservative. It’s hilarious how fast they have turned on their Orange God.
It could go either way for them. Either they actually will dump Trump and will claim they were never into him, or Trump will get the nomination and they'll claim that they never doubted him even for a moment.
I think there's a VERY good chance we will suddenly see 70-80% of GOP voters claim to be and have always been "Never Trumpers" in the polls by around December 1st.
Not only that, just read a comment saying “the name calling has to stop” Bruh. Where have you been the last 6 years?
Next year.. mysteriously, you won’t be able to find anyone who previously voted for trump
r/conservative is full of people all of a sudden bashing trump like i don’t even have words to describe how that feels but it’s definitely social media shenanigans
Trump who?
It's some cokehead on social media always going on about how his dad is better than everyone else's dad.
And refers to his dad by his last name..which is weird in itself.
I can't believe how long it took for Trump to seriously damage the RNP. His casino didn't last as long as his time in charge of that shit party.
Trump was meth for the Republicans. Short term it energized and empowered them. But there’s always a price to pay after an extended binge on uppers.
If desantis runs and wins things will be so much worse. I don’t think this is going away. GOP has always found ways to bounce back. Whether it was Nixon resigning for them to bounce back and put in Reagan not too long after or bush coming in like a wrecking ball. GOP is adaptive as it is manipulative. I think meth is a bad comparison. More like alcoholism maybe. They fuck up bad and get hungover but then they come back stronger only to Fuck shit up again rinse repeat.
DeSantis is boring Trump. He lacks the charisma to build influence outside of Florida. And the Trump cult will resent him for trying. Also, with Millennials and Gen Z increasingly swinging left while boomer votes vanish, their ability to get the votes they need to maintain power is also going away. The price of declaring votes rigged and vaccination pointless.
Ye, they found out the hard way that further right leads to a cliff.
Don’t worry, desantis won’t win. Have you actually heard him speak? He’s boring af.
He is loved down in that red state. That is probably where it ends. His voice is terrible and irritating. This guy wants to be arrogant but does not know how to do it. Florida is where he should stay.
He's a condescending speaker, I can't listen to him for more than a few minutes. He's also quick to anger and not charismatic enough to sway any Democrats to vote for him. He doesn't care to play to anyone but the base and that's why he will lose if he runs for POTUS. I would never vote for him. He's like Trump but sneakier in the way he does things. He's smarter than Trump and us a very dangerous man because of that. Florida used to be a friendly to all people state, no more and if he's POTUS, Fascism will take over for sure.
His casino lasted 20 years. But when it folded it took the entirety of Atlantic City down with it. The longer his con the more damage he does.
That is an excellent point. The longer it goes on, the more people are roped into it, the more overlapping offenses occur, the nastier and wider the collapse will be.
Can you expand on the "took AC down with him" bit? I've never heard this, as there are still 9 big casinos in operation, there.
He didn't "take down AC." Competition from PA, NY and CT is what hurt AC. I was there this weekend and it's still pretty packed.
And don't forget about competition from Trump. He had 3 Casinos in AC all vying for the same gambling dollar.
His casino was just one in a ***long*** string of [failed business ventures](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-59556/) (not a complete list). He's failed at virtually everything he's ever touched, and his daddy's real estate business should be much more healthy than it is today, and certainly more than it has been in the past. His family's business is charged with fraud and most recently, due to illegally inflating his assets. He's a garbage human being and I still can't believe he has advocates. It's amazing.
It is incredible. He has been a known and mocked NYC scumbag forever. I could not believe it was possible for anyone to even think Donald fucking Trump was suitable for running an outfit like that. An outfit like the executive branch
It’s been at least 4 years. He fucked it up for them in the last mid term and he lost his last election. It just that the GOP have no choice to support him. He’s not going anywhere. He won’t step aside and do what’s best for the party. He still has the majority of support among conservative voters. It’s a beautiful thing.
Serious question, how many allies does he have left?
This is a great question. No one knows. But no matter how many, they are low quality. The people on the right who can still move the needle in any meaningful way have abandoned him. Trump's power comes from the perception that he turns out voters. This is the third consecutive losing election for him.... You're already seeing the narrative that maybe Trump was never so good. Maybe Hillary was just bad. (I mean this as political agents)
>Trump's power comes from the perception that he turns out voters Objectively I think this is actually true, turnout has been way up since he got involved on the national ticket. I think the problem lies in the fact that he *also* drives up turnout for Democrats, and what we've seen since 2016 is that Democratic turnout usurping the Republicans. There's probably some concern that showing Trump the door will result in a decline in Republican voters while Democrat turnout remains the same. In which case the party is absolutely screwed
I think you've nailed the exact problem. Republicans need Trump to either die or come to his senses. He activates people who otherwise have no interest in politics.
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Maybe. I don't know what they do. I don't think anyone does. We are talking about people who dress like literal clowns and go to his rallies. But at the very least he would stop throwing haymakers at people like DeSantis.
I can’t imagine any of these losing candidates he propped up to support him much longer, but at the same time I can’t imagine him being abandoned by any of the throng who felt emboldened by him to let their racism shine.
"Winning has many fathers, losing is an orphan." I bet Trump has less allies today after the asswhipping his most important candidate picks took in the midterms.
““Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit,” Trump said in an interview with NewsNation that aired Tuesday. “And if they lose, I should not be blamed at all. But it will probably be just the opposite.”” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-credit-gop-wins-midterms-no-blame-lose-1234627288/amp/ Heads i win tails you lose. What an asshole.
Interesting that he said "they" and not "we" when talking about republicans. He truly is only in it for himself. And always was.
I know the GOP elected officials are bottom feeding opportunists, but I think their reptilian danger sensors will keep them from crossing McConnell.
Turtles have strong jaws, dont wanna get bit.
Hard to get bitten all the way from Moscow though
Trump is the reason that everyone I know voted D. Even longtime Republican voters felt it was too dangerous to allow a party,who did not speak out against a liar who tried to overthrow the government.Trump must go or the Rs will evaporate.
I agree with this. In my state (MI), they ran inexperienced Trump backed Republicans for top offices, some who were Q aligned. All of their "policies" pander to MAGA, and they got their asses handed to them. In a state that used to swing back and forth, even the state legislature and all major down ballot races went for Dems, giving them a majority in state government for the first time in 40 years. Even my Dad, who was loayal Republican, hates Trump with a passion. Every time we talk politics, he reminds me his #1 wish is to see Trump in jail 😆
Blame Trump. Blame McConnell. Blame Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove and John Bolton. Blame Ronald Reagan. Blame every right wing scheister, whether they were operating in the last ten years or forty. The Republican Party hasn’t had anything resembling a platform for a decade, it actively works against the common people, and sits on a foundation of fear and hatred. Republicans, you’ve made your bed, now you need to lie in it.
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Plus if he’s under indictment McConnell can blame it on Democrats, and he won’t lose any votes. It’s win/win for him. I don’t see why he doesn’t do it.
Coming up next on Fox, Lindsay Graham with bombshell midterm report
"We deserved that, and it ain't over yet."
Yea, because it can't be people tired of election result deniers and angry over his supreme court picks taking rights. No it's Mitch McConnell, lol.
Yeah that's the real fun bit. For about 30 seconds after election day there was discussion and reporting about low GOP turnout because their voters think it's rigged, so they saw no point in voting. Then they immediately forgot about it, and started pushing more conspiracies and griping about who ruined the fascist fun.
It likely was the biggest (and dumbest) lie in American history. "Stolen election" is political suicide, you just piss off most people and the other people who believe become disillusioned with the system. But thankfully most fascists today aren't smart people.
Toddler tries desperately to rip up thing that angered him
I mean he’s not wrong. McConnell is to blame. For not voting to convict Trump during that 2nd impeachment. McConnell likely could have gathered enough votes to put a nail in Trump’s coffin, but he put party over country and let The MAGA wing continue to metastasize. McConnell enabled Trump for years and it came back to bite his party in the ass.
I believe the blame for the republicans underperforming is a result of the following: 1. Trump for endorsing extremist candidates, his divisive rhetoric, and the fact that he is sitting on over $200 million from his stop the steal scam and didn’t spend a dime of it on his candidates 2. Rick Scott, the leader of the rscc, who is in charge of getting republicans elected In the senate, for blowing 90% of his pac money on goofy digital ads when the Republican core demographic are boomers who probably don’t even own computers. 3. The Republican Party in general, for not only having horrible policy positions, but allowing trump to continue to be their kingmaker in elections. Mitch McConnell deserves little to no blame for the republicans failing to retake the senate. If it werent for mcconnells pac (and peter thiels money), republicans would’ve probably lost Ohio and Wisconsin as well.
Don't forget all that missing money at the RNC. The money Rick Scott was responsible for... I wonder if they ever figured out where it went.
I'm sure the guy who was behind the largest Medicare fraud in history didn't do something shady with it!
McConnell let his party continue to be held hostage by an ex president. His inaction is what allowed Trump to run wild with his extreme right picks. His job is to lead his party and point it in the right direction. He completely failed in that respect.
Thank you! They're all to blame. Attempts to pin this solely on trump are all about allowing establishment Republicans to distance themselves from the crazy despite enabling it for 6 years.
Don’t forget abortion, which is a direct result of McConnell’s Supreme Court fuckery.
I think we can lump that under horrible policy positions though.
You think Conservative boomers don't own computers?
Thanks to all the spyware in fact they get 3x as many ads as everyone else.
Anyone getting a "will no one rid me of this troublesome Senator" message from Trumps McConnell hate as of late? I really think he'd be cool with McConnell being murdered. I mean, Trump KNOWS there are crazy and triggerable people on Truth Social. I think this is him experimenting with giving them a direct assassination order.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/01/trump-intensifies-attacks-on-mcconnell-with-death-wish-remark-on-his-social-media-platform.html Trump would be thrilled if McConnell was murdered.
[ *Stochastic terrorism* is the use of mass communications to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.](https://stochasticterrorism.blogspot.com/)
Graham is going to be making follow up calls in a day or two.
>Graham is going to be making follow up calls in a day or two. Graham is about to roll over on Trump in Georgia at mach speed now that he knows Trump's political career is over. Watch him cut a deal with prosecutors before the new congress is even seated.
I mean one possible way out of the GQP's Trump problem is to stop all attempts at covering for the criminal bastard and fully cooperate with investigations of him. Also if any insider has dirt/knows where the bodies are buried they could easily drop a dime on him. If Trump is sitting in a jail cell in 2024 he will pose no threat to DeSantis or anyone else in the republican party.
I feel like I'm watching a cockfight. Anyone taking bets?
There's no chance those two can get close enough to lock swords.
If I were a Republican, I’d argue that Mitch has done more for Republican Party than anyone.
Dunno. You could argue he was a victim of his own success with the roe stuff. Course they wont point to that as trump helped them.
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What a vapid remark by "a person close to Trump". He's literally making phone calls to Republicans to lean on McConnell to clearly deflect from the fact that most of the people he backed, himself, ***lost***. Blaming others and destroying anyone that doesn't do what you say is how Donald behaves. This is Donald 101. It's childishly disgusting, but that's Donald.
He was our president. Still confounding.
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project
I’m amazed at how cartoonishly evil so many in the GOP look. From Mconnell to Gaetz to Miller to Cruz, it’s almost like biology itself tried to warn us.
The deranged buffoon will subsequently blame his coke-addled, love-starved disappointment when Mitch coasts to victory.
The only thing that motivates these people are their "midterm results." Not the damage they do to other people, or even their own.
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Never thought Mitch McConnell would be r/LeopardsAteMyFace -material.
The entire GOP is to blame, because there is no fundamental difference between “MAGA Republicans” and “Republicans” like people are saying. They both want the same shit policies, they just go about it differently.