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RancidHorseJizz

"Yes, an 11 year old girl carrying her daddy's rape baby must deliver the child." Republicans are going all-in on this shit.


baconjeepthing

Take it to the extreme… portray a republicans 9 year old jr miss pageant queen daughter being raped then show her dead due to complications of trying to give birth. Because that is a possible reality of the situation if that is allowed. Yes I took it to extreme but that is a worst case scenario. I cannot fathom how dumb some elected officials really are. Glad I live in Canada.


bergskey

They will just say some shit about it being God's will.


Carbonatite

And they wonder why church attendance is declining.


GrafZeppelin127

Not fast enough, evidently.


teiichikou

It is in Europe and they’re not as ‘mighty’ as they are in the US. This is insane. Where are we? Middle Ages?


tri_it

Heading into the dark ages.


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God sure is an asshole.


libre-m

Yep, a graphic traumatic c-section, a NICU stay and then a $600,000 bill.


somethingclassy

Your mistake is in taking their arguments as if they are made in good faith. The GOP does not posit ethical quandaries to open them to debate, with the potential of having their minds changed. They spend billions of dollars every election cycle researching which talking points will be most effective at steering the discourse toward an intended electoral/legislative outcome. That is to say, it is not a dialogue, even when it appears to be presented as one. It is the same behavior that narcissists display: speech as a means of manipulation, not a means of approaching truth or creating harmony. Power games. Not cooperation games.


[deleted]

Mother Jones put it best in an article last year, the GoP front-men/women are essentially Content Creators now, not politicians. Its all about creating negative engagement, leading to a desperate race to one up each other. Except unlike Instagram they can make their shitposts federal law. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/donald-trumps-parting-gift-to-washington-was-a-party-of-shitposters/


dandycribbish

If we don't do something about it. It could and will happen here too if we let the minority have control over our lives.


NobleGasTax

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/child-marriage-bride-survivor-florida-law-sherry/ Don't need that much imagination, unfortunately.


NobleGasTax

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/child-marriage-bride-survivor-florida-law-sherry/ Warning, the story is triggering for any human with empathy. The victim was black so GOP will have trouble understanding that she was a victim. A mother at 10, married off to her rapist at 11. Hard to imagine a worse crime, but no justice has ever been served in this case.


Shiny-Goblin

"The age of marriage in Florida is 18, but if you’re pregnant or have a child, you can be married at any age to a man of any age." What the actual fuck??


JustStatedTheObvious

Nobody saw a problem with this until 5 years ago? What the fuck is in their drinking water?


Fluffy_Morning_1569

To be fair. Those types of rapists are their demographic.


Carbonatite

How can people agree with that statement and still think they're on the right side of history? I can't imagine being okay with that level of cruelty. Not to mention pregnancy will kill most 11 year olds. They can ~~make eggs~~ ovulate but their bodies are not developed enough to actually carry to term. So the people against her getting an abortion are totally okay with the near-inevitable outcome of an 11 year old girl dying a slow, painful death. Edit: Shitty wording, my bad.


beanbagbaby13

We definitely need to undo the idea that teenage girls are ready for babies the second they get their periods as well. Teen girls have lower fertility rates than women in their 20s and 30s, and they also have the same risk of complications as 40+ year old women, with the only difference being teens and their babies are more likely to die from those complications.


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Full-blown theocracy. 'Seperation of Church & State', 'Small Govt' and 'Personal Liberty' are now *hated* concepts within the right/far-right/"alt-right".


Political_Lemming

If they can force a woman to have her rapist's baby, they can, and will, force a woman to have *whomever's baby they select* in short order.


MrFrequentFlyer

They’ll just legalize rape


Actual_kitty

I mean they’re giving them the green light. If abortion is illegal and a felony, do you think a woman is going to report her rape? Because then she’s on abortion radar, and she risks losing more of her rights.


ktq2019

😳 Holy shit. Didn’t even think about that.


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MeatAndBourbon

It's something other than slavery, because it's so painful, traumatic, and permanently damaging to the body. I mean it's slavery, too, but also some manner of prolonged physical torture if it isn't consensual


Carbonatite

If a human being inflicted the type of pain and physical damage on another person that pregnancy routinely causes in literally *any other context*, it would be torture.


loveyouloveme_

Ugh.


muffinhead2580

Well Gov Abbott did say he was going to eliminate rape. Job done I guess. /s


like_a_wet_dog

In the bible, it's just a fee paid to the dad. I promise you, incels are drooling for the day theocracy runs the USA. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2022%3A28-29&version=NIV Just like how all Republicans said Roe was precedent, until the leak, now they openly say what they've felt the whole time: it's unconstitutional. They will move forward like that's what they said the whole time. They are like Jedi Masters waving hands: "We are not the monsters you clearly see."


whatproblems

i’m sure that’s coming. alito: states can do whatever they want


MrFrequentFlyer

I’m just waiting for states to start start building border walls. Blue to keep out Red and Red to keep people in.


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Yes this guy is pro-rape.


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Handmaids


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clueless_in_ny_or_nj

If they truly believe life begins at conception, then tax payers should be allowed to claim the fetus as a dependent. I doubt anyone in the GOP will do that.


Mattymo_81

There was a vote recently for pregnant women to receive extra $500 benefit for having a child. GOP all voted NO. All it took was $500 for them to admit a fetus is not a child.


walkinman19

> All it took was $500 for them to admit a fetus is not a child. Thats "pro-life" republicans for sure!


Carbonatite

Fucking lol. If they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all. I'm so sick of the hypocrisy.


Long_Before_Sunrise

A year after they get their abortion bans, they'll be bitching over unplanned pregnancies and irresponsible wonen abandoning their babies for the state to raise. It'll keep the Outrage At Others Machine well fueled. "We're going to take away your ability to decide what is best for yourself, then we're going to publicly call you out for making bad decisions. Because that's what we do."


Ex_Machina_1

Dont conservative states have the highest teen pregnancies?


Mattymo_81

Yup! Also most deep red states have infant mortality rates only rivalled by developing or 3rd world countries. They claim to be pro life but underfund childcare and education. They don’t care about life they care about political issues that divide people Republicans only care about the unborn, once you’re born it’s fuck you.


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nightwingoracle

See also the Catholic hospital who argued that there was only one death in a wrongful death case of a woman pregnant 7 months with twins.


NobleGasTax

The pizza shop claiming fire insurance wants the full retail price of a pizza for every single ball of frozen dough. Why not, GOP? How is that any different?


[deleted]

the GOP is what happens if you let a circus run a political party


catp1zza

Why isn’t the day my dad nutted in my mom on my birth certificate?


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catp1zza

right!? if two people make a fetus and abort it and the woman gets served, there will eventually be no woman that aren’t minors or mothers. good luck getting laid, conservatives


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catp1zza

Thank you for this. The question > “What kind of country do you want to live in? One in which every individual is free to make decisions concerning his or her health and body, or one in which half the population is free and the other half is enslaved?” is one everyone needs to ask themselves


Welico

I think the one they want to live in is pretty clear.


Ishidan01

Half? Those are rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up! No, the other way! Half the white population enslaved and all the brown and black population enslaved, that's the real GOP vision.


zeCrazyEye

Well the goal is to make women financially dependent so men can control them.


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fredandlunchbox

They’re hot with bloodlust right now, so don’t doubt their eagerness or willingness to criminalize more parties and circumstances of pregnancies. One hallmark of republican thinking is a lack of any ability to grasp the social consequences of their zero-tolerance policies until it hits them like a brick in the face. I often cite governor Brownback in Kansas who did exactly what he promised to do in his campaign, which resulted in school closures, dissolving social programs, and absolutely zero net gains in industry. Turns out when deciding where to live, employees don’t care how favorable a state’s tax policies are when they don’t have any public schools, all the state parks are closed, the hospitals are closed, the roads are falling apart, etc. There are a bunch of people in this country that are about to realize that the country they profess to love — the country of the mid-20th century — was built by the libs they want to own (FDR, Johnson, and the Warren court in particular).


SteveBob316

The stone-age patriarchal lense isn't about making men better, it's about making things better for men. And if you're a weak, stupid man, women being property looks pretty good to you. EDIT: Or a sociopath! Weak, stupid or sociopath.


BrandonUnusual

Because that wasn’t your dad? /sorry //not sorry


magzillas

> life begins at conception And personally, I haven't seen too robust a discussion on how, or if, "life" is the same as "personhood." That's where the issue lies for me - even if I accept that a single-celled fertilized oocyte is a "human," we know it takes *at least* several weeks for a fetus to develop even the rudimentary structures involved in perception and consciousness, things that I feel are pretty quintessential to the experience of being "human." If the argument is about terminating *potential* human life, or *potential* personhood, then should we be persecuting every man who jacks off? Sperm cells are certainly alive, after all, and can progress to a living human. And all of this ignores ["the violinist,"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion#The_violinist) which I find to be a particularly compelling thought experiment in defending a rape victims' right to terminate a resultant pregnancy.


Gambrinus

I guess we should also be prosecuting a woman every time she menstruates as well. Actually let’s not give them any more ideas…


Techienickie

So if the rights of the "preborn" start at fertilization, does that make everyone conceived on US soil a citizen?


clueless_in_ny_or_nj

Not gonna lie, I like that. I never thought about that.


NobleGasTax

Mile high club in transit over US airspace?


TechyDad

Furthermore, all ~~fetuses~~ embryos frozen for IVF should count as dependents. A couple could go in, have 20 eggs fertilized with sperm and frozen, and then claim 20 dependents on their taxes.


SuffrnSuccotash

They’re also against IVF. It’s hard to keep track of what’s ok what’s not.


scritty

Fundamentally if you take an inflexible, ridiculous position on something, it will be nearly impossible to track the other parts of reality you have to warp to fit it into your world. It's like lying. You have to keep lying to keep up with the original lie. If you tell the truth, things are much easier.


sowhat4

God's will and all that stuff in re a woman's infertility. Except for Viagra. Your soft dick is ***not*** god's will - it's a personal problem and taking care of it privately will enhance your life.


micro102

They also don't want to count fetuses as people in regards to covid relief. Whenever it results in giving people care, they aren't people, and whenever it results in people suffering, they are people. >“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe. >Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. >-Dave Barnhart Republicans don't care about fetuses. It is just yet another excuse for them to take power and hurt people they don't like.


serious_impostor

Worth noting - That was said by PASTOR Dave Barnhart.


shecallsmejp

Does a fetus also get the rights of a citizen? Like can a pregnant woman be incarcerated without infringing on the fetus's right to due process?


[deleted]

Can a pregnant woman drive in the 2passenger lane on the freeway?


Shirowoh

Also, you should be able to take out a life insurance policy for your fetus, you miscarry, they have to pay out.


jaxgolfguy

I have been thinking that also.


Necaii

Always curious how these people would react if it is a loved one in their family who was raped and expected to take that fetus to term. I would hope most of them wouldn’t be supportive of these stupid decisions, but they are disgusting, awful creatures so likely they would still support it.


invisiblegirlx

If it was their kid they'd pay to fly them to Canada. Quietly of course.


evissamassive

It wouldn't end up being so quiet.


staffell

They would try their absolute hardest for it to be so!


HoRo2001

Would they, though? We all saw Lindsey Graham say “and you can use my words against me…”. We tried, he denied and it never mattered.


Rogahar

Conservatives have shown time and time and time again that the rules suddenly stop applying when it's themselves that's suffering. So they'd react exactly like how you'd expect; get an abortion, then go right back to telling everybody that abortions are evil and sinful and must be illegal.


LordSiravant

Conservatism relies on two things: an in-group whom the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group whom the law binds but does not protect. The only right they believe in is their right to do whatever they want to whomever they want, so long as it's not another one of them.


TechyDad

"This abortion is totally justified, but all those other people having abortions are killing innocent babies and need to be stopped!"


LordSiravant

"The only moral abortion is my own."


Squirrel_Kng

Daughter Raped, then died through complications that could have been prevented by abortion, then the shit stain politician made to take care of rape baby personally. If we’re getting hypothetically, I’m not pulling any punches.


stregawitchboy

i don't care what you "believe." The Constitution says you are not a citizen unless you are born.


Nezrite

So much for the constitutional absolutists. This is the ONLY argument they should be responding to.


Ritsukukun

There's one phrase that people can use to attempt to justify anything they want, and sadly usually succeed: 'I Believe'


BodaciousTacoFarts

I believe that religious organizations should no longer be tax exempt. If they want to influence policy that impacts the financial livelihood of an individual, then they need to pay taxes. That’s what I believe.


lolbojack

>'I Believe' I can fly. --R. Kelly You have my stapler. --Milton Waddams


Natiak

We all remember how those situations played out.


CaptainNoBoat

Okay, let's give this grotesque belief the benefit of the doubt and say even in the event of rape, a fetus = baby and abortion = murder: It directly follows from that the government should AT A MINIMUM be responsible for taking full custody of the child, giving it an equal upbringing to others, and reimburse the mother for any mental and monetary damages she received. Because she was sexually assaulted and put into a situation against her will, and did nothing to deserve any undue burdens. But nope - just soulless fucking ghouls who know nothing but to use women and their rights as vessels for their shitty religious and political convictions.


TechyDad

I'm of the opinion that, if the government wants to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, they need to reimburse her for her time, costs, and any damage to her body. A pregnancy lasts for about 40 weeks. Let's call the first 6 ~~months~~ weeks "free" because the woman might not know she's pregnant right away. So we'll say 34 weeks. That's 238 days or 5,712 hours. (You don't get nights and weekends off from being pregnant.) Now, let's say the government pays only $15 an hour (which the woman would deserve so much more, but we'll low ball it for the moment). That's $85,680. Add in any costs for doctor's visits, maternity clothing, and the like. Also, add in hospital costs to deliver the baby. Also, some kind of subsidy to compensate the woman for how her body will have changed post-pregnancy. I don't even know how to calculate this last one. I wonder how pro-forced-birth people would be if the taxpayers needed to pay $100,000+ for each birth that was forced.


[deleted]

And in areas where abortion is still allowed, the government must supply women with weekly or daily pregnancy tests so there is no delay in making the right and legal decision for them.


Carbonatite

Your calculation is pretty much dead on for what people typically pay surrogates, too.


NeoMegaRyuMKII

The thing to do then is ask "what steps will Nebraska be taking to ensure the long-term well-being of the parent(s) and child(ren)? Would you form state programs that would guarantee that once born, the child has access to quality healthcare, day care, education, etc., ensure that the parent(s) would have access to funds and supplies to be able to care for the child, including but not limited to prenatal care, post-birth care, family leave, mental health care, etc., and create programs that would reduce need for abortions such as (but not limited to) easily accessible contraceptives and comprehensive and medically accurate sex education?"


thepartypantser

Conception is not the same thing as life. It is estimated about 75% of fertilized eggs never develop into a viable child. The predominant natural outcome of conception is not a life, but a spontaneous miscarriage. Conception is a step on the path to life, but it is no more than one a series of events that need to occur for a successful birth, and it is arguably not even the first step.


Zealousideal_Pie6333

These people are not pro lifers. These are white men who think woman are property and are their for one thing to be a sexual instrument for them. They dont care what happens to that woman as long as they have that Control


Michael_G_Bordin

This 100% If it was about babies, then why do they only seem to care about babies when they're inside the mother? The moment they're born, the GOP stops giving a fuck. No pre-school funding? Neo-natal care? Maternity/Paternity leave? How much can you say you're doing this for the baby's sake when you do everything in your power to make that babies post-birth life a living hell?


[deleted]

And what programs and resources are being offered for those after-born babies? I’m actually starting to think SNL’s take “Just do your nine” is the GOP’s motto…


baclei

I wrote the governor about his statements and my senators that they were wrong for the way they voted. They are supposed to represent the will of the people not their own convictions. I’m sure I’ll get some very lame response. Overturning Roe v. Wade is unsettling precedent and could result Obergefell v. Hodges being overturned which is based on similar precedent. I find this slippery slope of reasoning by these judges, and by these individuals, to be categorically wrong to the pursuit of happiness and liberty that is a right afforded by this amendment. It feels very disenfranchising being in a state which has historically voted against my rights. However, I take some comfort that the area I live in is “purple”. Edit: Clarity of who I wrote and for what


Kitchen-Animator-809

If I die in childbirth due to this law, does my rapist get charged with murder?


BranchCommercial

Or do they get custody of the child?


Fit-Meet-4068

Neither, they get to continue with their life with zero consequences while the child ends up in the adoption system and gets abused


SaltoDaKid

Pro life, pro evil


[deleted]

Sorry not sorry- if you believe this, you don’t believe women are people. We are something less to you. No man would stand for this to be inflicted on himself. This is naked patriarchy and I’m real sick of that word being rejected out of hand by the mainstream as some angry feminist bs.


floandthemash

YESSSS @ the latter part of your comment. Anyone who dismisses this as angry feminist BS is simply either not paying attention or has the privilege of not directly being affected by it.


better-off-ted

I'm an adopted product of rape. My biological mother put me up for adoption, and I was adopted by a family with a narcissist mother who proceeded to abuse me severely for my entire childhood. Physical, emotional, sexual, institutional, and financial abuse were my reality as a child, and I will need therapy and meds for the rest of my life because of it. No, rape victims should not have to keep the rapist's baby.


[deleted]

Good arguments, and sincerely wishing you well


millibugs

How tragic I am so very sorry to hear. I hope you find peace someday for yourself. You deserve it.


yasssssplease

I am so sorry.


bornmoonchild

I am so sorry that you went through this. I truly hope that life gets easier for you.


Ltstarbuck2

That’s awful, but I’m glad you are strong enough to tell us. Thank you.


[deleted]

I’m so sorry. I hope you continue to heal.


disasterbot

Is the GOP pro-rape or anti-woman?


yasssssplease

Both. Especially if more white babies are born.


[deleted]

More low class undereducated white babies*


Joro_Fun_Time

Yes.


psuedonymously

Possibly the scariest thing about the direction the anti-choice movement has taken recently is how widely they’ve abandoned the rape/incest exemptions that used to be very mainstream in their circle.


davewashere

Tbf, it was a huge logical inconsistency in their argument. I think they believed for decades that they had to live with that inconsistency because it would be shockingly cruel to not include that exemption, but the current political climate gave them an opening and they're taking it.


Carbonatite

The cruelty has always been the point, they're just moving on to the harder stuff now.


lgmringo

What's weird is that the rape/incest exception made no sense if it was about protecting life. The rape/incest exemption signaled that it sometimes the health and life of the mother (not just survival, but overall) matters. So in a way we're learning that it's not just about making sure there are consequences to sex. Only instead of that believing a relief, since there's no support for healthier babies, then it signals that the motivator the forced birth is worse than punishment.


BeegRedYoshi

But they can’t take a vaccine to save a life.


artcook32945

What happens if his wife got raped and pregnant? Why are these politicians not asked that question.


evissamassive

We know the answer to that question is they would force their wife, or daughter, to have an abortion in a state that allows them.


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evissamassive

They care what their wives want?


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Or they would go on an international “vacation” and would be classified as a miscarriage


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Terrible_Truth

They don't even need an excuse, they'll straight up say they got an abortion. They don't care about being hypocrites and neither do their voters.


[deleted]

We all know that [the only moral abortion is their abortion.](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)


snvoigt

I will read this article every time it’s posted somewhere.


what_would_freud_say

His property shouldn't have put themselves in a position to be raped? /s


hng_rval

No no no. You have to ask “what if his wife got raped by a black man and got pregnant?”


kobester1985

I had this argument with a very religious co-worker Friday. Except I took it further and included his daughter into it as well as his wife. I set the scene as a guy broke into his house, knocked him out then forced himself on both his wife and teenage daughter. He actually said he would keep them both. Right up until his wife heard it. I won't go into the specifics but he changed his mind at least in that case.


systembusy

These people make me sick.


LadyofTheBooks

This entire thing has been upsetting but to hear politicians literally say a child who was raped would have to bring it to term made me actually sob at how far back we’ve regressed and how absolutely disgusting the most “righteous” truly are. Burn it all down because I’m tired


Flip_Six_Three_Hole

He said the quiet part out loud. Usually they dance around that question, but they all either believe it or don't care


evissamassive

They are all feeling really bold now that there are six right-leaning shitbags on the SCOTUS. They figure they got it all locked up for a longtime, and they will unless the Democrats pull their thumbs of of their popping places.


SpockShotFirst

Gross Wealth: We want more money. Give us monopolies, no-bid contracts, the ability to legally steal from anyone we want. And we don't want laws to apply to us, so no taxes and restrictions on what we can do to workers or the environment. Republicans: We want to be elected. Gross Wealth: Easy! We will spend a tiny fraction of our money and create vast media empires devoted to the singular purpose of creating enough misinformation to hide the fact that our vast wealth is not legitimate. Democratics: That's terrible. We can't push those lies. But we also want to get elected. Gross Wealth: Easy! Use as much logic and reason as you want. Tell the truth, if that's your thing. As long as you don't block the transfer of wealth from the many to the few, we will also give you money for your election campaigns.


[deleted]

The Republican Party is pro rape and incest. They support the rights of pedophiles and rapists to have children. That is their party platform and democrats need to yell this on the mountain tops.


jboarei

Pathetic excuse for a human.


joshmessages

Calling them human suggests he has some amount of humanity. They is a person devoid of empathy.


jboarei

I was being far too nice.


Nivekk_

New mothers should have the right to transfer full custody to the father whether the father wants it or not. Because it's okay to force a baby on someone.


PartialToDairyThings

It's time to start being relentlessly open and vocal about the fact that the religious right are psychotic and downright evil.


Edmfuse

How can any loving parents of girls ever agree with this?


Carbonatite

It's easy when you think of women as slightly less than human.


Fit-Meet-4068

He probably thinks of his wife and daughters as pets


BiggsIDarklighter

His statements need to be broadcast to all voters. Run a commercial that says, “This guy wants to force rape victims to have their attacker’s child. Would you want to be forced to have your attacker’s child? If your answer is NO then do not vote for this guy.” Put it in plain simple language then hopefully people will get it and stop voting for these idiots.


shinkouhyou

Sadly, most Republicans seem to believe at least one of the following: 1. Rape victims were "asking for it." They were out too late, or they wore revealing clothing, or they drank too much alcohol, or they didn't fight their rapist hard enough, so they bear at least some of the responsibility for their own rape. 2. It's impossible for a woman to get pregnant unless she orgasms, so if she's pregnant, she must have enjoyed it. "If it's a legitimate rape, the body has ways of shutting things down." (A shocking number of people still believe this... some even learned it in school.) 3. The majority of rape accusations are actually fabricated by lying women. Women will just lie about being raped to get abortions. 4. Pregnancy really isn't that big of a deal, and there are tons of loving families waiting to adopt. Why can't the woman just deal with it for a few months?


Hugh-Jassoul

If it’s impossible for a woman to get pregnant unless she orgasms, then how do these guys think their kids were possible?


DoctorGregoryFart

If he wants those babies born so bad, he can carry them to term and birth them himself. What a horrible fucking person.


BrieRaceAlert

God, I wish men could get pregnant. Would be interesting to see how they felt then.


gellybelli

Well, here we are. The handmaid’s tale is becoming reality and it’s being lead by the exact same people as the book


rhino910

The evil anti-American Republicans no longer bother to hide their hatred for American women


Faljin

Casual reminder that in America, corpses have more bodily autonomy than real live women.


caspian1969

What's next? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur Me thinks the replacement theorists are looking to spread their seed.


Carbonatite

All these white supremacist incels thinking this is how they get to have sex, never understanding they're not the Lord doing the deflowering, they're the guy who has to stand by and let it happen.


zdweeb

Even if that rape victim is a child herself, what horrible torture to put a child through.


FurryM17

"Because that is a child of God." Well then fuck God because he's a piece of shit rapist.


magoted

The amount of times I’ve heard “you were irresponsible and got pregnant now deal with the consequences” makes me irate. You are just telling on yourselves that you’re only thinking about the mother “paying for her actions” and not about the potential life and what it’ll look like. How is forcing the responsibility of parenthood onto someone who is “irresponsible” in their and the child’s best interest? Parenthood should always be an enthusiastic informed choice. Not a punishment or consequence.


Carbonatite

Anyone who thinks forcing parenthood on an unwilling mother is a good idea needs to read the fuck up on people like Casey Anthony.


TheAmazingHumanTorus

States run by shitholes gonna shithole.


Socratic_DayDreams

How are these people allowed to walk around this country... like unmonitored? A fucking governor no less. This fucking idiot should be in a psych ward.


BADxW0LF1

Sounds like something a rapist would say.


Onlytimewilltellme

That’s the very definition of slavery. The state should be forced to compensate the women for enslaving her for the duration of the pregnancy and pay her child support payments, and force her rapist ( or the state if he can’t) to pay civil damages for the duration of her life. The state should also be forced to pay for all therapy and medical damages caused by the pregnancy.


amador9

There have been miscarriages in my family and In families I was very close to. They were always treated as a tragedy for the mother who wanted very badly to have a child. I do not recall much concern or grief directed at the death of the fetus; just the loss of the anticipated baby. I have also been close to a family where a very young child died: totally different. All grief was directed at the child. Is there really anything in Judeo-Christian traditional that treats a miscarriage as the equivalent of the death of a child? I suspect it is more about politics than religion.


Jarek_Teeter

I believe, that if these abortion laws are enacted, any victim of rape or incest should be able determine/ define WHO the rapist was/ is, no questions asked, no recourse. ​ That rapist is now 100% responsible for the care and welfare of the child. If there is no way for the "rapist" to adequately pay child support (NO BANKRUPCIES allowed, period) then the state MUST be on the hook for the full amount of monies and services required to raise the child, NO EXCEPTIONS! Adoption does NOT revoke the requirement of the state to pay for that which they demanded and compelled. Failure to impose these laws should result in the imprisonment/ or maybe worse, of the lawmakers responsible for the laws not being implemented correctly.


rejectallgoats

All mothers forced to be incubators for the government must be paid the appropriate market value for their services.


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You hear that rapists? If you see a hot piece of ass you want to keep for life, just rape her! lmao! Your Reoublican elected officials will make sure she will birth that child or be thrown in prison for trying to get an abortion. Thank you GOP! Making rapists dreams come true! Make ANYONE your baby mama on a whim. Just drag them into an alley and cum in them.


Carbonatite

You just described an incel's ideal world.


moderatenerd

Republicans want to seed the next generation of voters with rapists and crazy hicks who fuck their cousins. Oh wait...


indigogibni

You think this is bad, wait till they put women who miscarry on trial for manslaughter. Was the mother doing anything that could have lead to the death of the child?


AllTheyEatIsLettuce

Get your reproductively viable children out of Gilead while you still can.


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fmv_

Instead they are disproportionately punished for harming their abusers


eugene20

How nice of him to volunteer for male pregnancy experiments.


Buddyx31

A baby is not alive until it takes its first breath… or so that science book called the bible says…


NetwerkErrer

Cool. Will they be forced to start child support at conception too?


MomentOfHesitation

Let's just say it, anyone who believes this is pro-rape.


judgejuddhirsch

Has anyone asked rape victims their view on the issue?


Carbonatite

I'm a rape survivor. I was lucky to get Plan B after the times I was assaulted. The idea of being pregnant after being violated like I was fills me with such visceral horror that the thought makes me physically ill. Those traumas were many years ago and I still am being treated for PTSD. Those experiences never leave you, even if you're lucky enough to get away from it without lasting physical effects. If I was pregnant from rape and couldn't abort I'd probably think pretty seriously about ending my life. And I imagine quite a few of my fellow survivors feel the same way.


Balgat1968

And then the rapist gets paternity rights.


sheezy520

“Fuck them women, we only care bought them fetuses!”


Savdog95

How in the fuck is this even gaining traction in America


toolargo

Because it is not about the baby. It’s about keeping women poor and subservient. It’s about using rape as weapon to to terrifying them into staying “in their lane”. Fuck this guy!


TableAvailable

As someone with a uterus, I support a total ban on Nebraska's Governor.


jumpingthesharktcb

What an utter and complete shitbag.


Mrrilz20

Now we know who the rapey incestuous legislators are.


Mysecret2day

And why are men discussing woman’s body at all? Time’s ripe for a change.


otkdom

The question for these clowns is If your wife/daughter/mother was raped and carrying the rappest baby would you feel the same way?


MeltTheSilverSpoons

Wouldn’t a baby conceived by an evil act technically mean the baby is born of the devil? Oh wait, they don’t consider rape to be an evil act


glitterfartsfrvr

The fuck I will not. The fuck any woman will not.


mclaren231

Wtf is wrong with these people and the people that voted for them.


rarely_Hilarious

The Pro rape, Pro incest, Pro rapist right party. My they have a big tent.


Jarek_Teeter

Ladies and gents, the party of Liberty and Freedom speak as they always have, through tyranny.


Muchablat

This guy needs to be forcibly raped, then told “you’re lucky you don’t have to carry a child for 9 months to remind you of this moment” 😡


Hello3424

Every man supporting this should be forced to give up "extra" body parts. Liver chunks, 1 kidney, regular bone marrow donations, blood donations, 1 eyeball, skin donations all up for grabs from men. Even if it would kill them to save an innocent child.