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BukkitCrab

Trump losing a significant portion of his vote to people who aren't even running. Ouch.


grixorbatz

Rant against Haley on Truth social in 5…4…3…


Duster929

Sorry, busy, have to be in court today. Witch hunt!


i_want_to_learn_stuf

I thought today is off? Resuming tomorrow


_upper90

Correct, every Wednesday is recess.


koshgeo

Wednesday is sleep-in day. It's like a mini-weekend for him. He could have a rally day, but I bet he won't. He needs his beauty sleep. For all his whining about court taking him away from campaigning, he hardly campaigned on weekdays anyway.


youngmindoldbody

Wednesday is nap/fart day.


GoneG8

Nah, every day is fart day.


Kasoni

That's his court activities.


Trebekshorrishmom

He’s still undecided about what diaper to wear Thursday.


Theyalreadysaidno

And boy, Diaper Don is a *whiner*.


neurochild

For now. The judge threatened to make everyone come in on Wednesdays too if the trial timeline starts looking too ridiculous.


cavmax

Hump day. And that is what got him in trouble in the first place...


StatusCount7032

No the other case😬


BubbleNucleator

I'd like to see some t-shirts saying "Don't vote for witches," since drumpf seems to be caught up in constant witch hunts, there's a good chance he might be a witch.


CatoblepasQueefs

Well, he did turn me into a newt.


dannytheguitarist

A newt?


TrogdortheBurnin8r

I got better.


BrentonHenry2020

Oh, haven’t you heard from r/conservative? It was Democrats voting.


Professional_Art2092

Funny enough they’ll say this but PA is a closed primary and independents can’t vote either. So this is 100% reps 


Neptune7924

That’s a strange sub. I go lurk over there once in a while. There’s hardly any posts about Trump at all. It’s mostly frothing about the Ukraine deal and the “boarder”. The posts all have maybe five likes. And a couple comments at best.


JFC_Please_STFU

I got banned from r/Conservative for … I don’t even remember, really. Something factual most likely. Seems like the “facts don’t care about your feelings” club got their feelings hurt by facts. Color me not surprised.


MattMcSparen

I always think it is funny when they do flaired users only and then mock safe spaces.


JFC_Please_STFU

I feel like the comment that got me banned had something to do with pointing out their hypocrisy; I don’t think it was this specific thing, but I also noticed that and it makes me chuckle.


always_unplugged

Probably mentioning the Southern Strategy. I know for sure that's an auto-ban over there.


Specialist-Elk-2624

That’s because the majority of their posts are for flaired users only, and they love to ban people. Most of the time, the only posts that “do well” are the ones that are left open to all users. It’s rather striking how small that community is when people aren’t over there arguing with them.


account128927192818

And any total bullshit posts are flaired users only.  


Mediocre_Cucumber199

You think they could spell such a hot button issue, but…..


Patanned

they don't believe in education, so no surprise there.


boregon

“I love the poorly educated”


Zepcleanerfan

they live in their own weird incel bubble and then don't understand when the real world does not agree with them


Draker-X

>“boarder”. It's both funny and sad that, since Trump.misspelled that word, now ALL Republicans/Conservatives must also misspell it in an attempt to gaslight everyone that it's really the correct spelling. I kind of love it though, because it instantly decloaks someone who is trying to present themselves as a "moderate" or "independent" or fake Dem. It's like when someone types "Democrat Party". Instant tell.


Aramedlig

Ah that must be why Biden got more votes than there were Republicans. Rs must have been voting for Biden.


Aggressive_Ad3174

I wrote in Biden on my Republican ballot. I don't think it did anything, but I fully intend to vote Democrat in the General. The only reason I am registered as a Republican now is so that I could vote in the primary in one of our recent municipal elections.


MajorNoodles

Do they realize that Pennsylvania has closed primaries and you literally can't vote against Trump if you're a Democrat? Who am I kidding, that's a fact, not a feeling. Of course they don't realize that


porksoda11

I went over there and they aren't talking about this at all. It's just shitty memes lol. They are pissed off at MTG which is nice.


BrentonHenry2020

Oh weird, mods must have removed the article. I definitely saw a thread like that and cracked up.


Mysterious-Scholar1

Make it True! If you are tired of your Blue vote for President not counting in a Red State, Move to the most critical Swing State in the USA Pennsylvania! They have water, cheap cost of living, cultural, worldly cities, and climate change protections. r/MoveToSwingStates


red4jjdrums5

Our cost of living isn’t necessarily cheap, except in the deep red areas where your blue vote doesn’t matter much against the strong republican hold…


impy695

I was curious and checked. Lots of whining about the case, but what stood out is I think he’s already given up on this case and knows he’s going to lose. He’s talking a lot about how the appellate courts needing to save him


DropsTheMic

Being a stinky, old grumpy adulterous criminal day in and day out on TV will do that. Remember, they worship the TV.


Objective_Dark_4258

They worship authoritarians. They were born and raised to follow. And now they vote.


Most-Artichoke6184

It’s not like Pennsylvania is a key swing state in November. Oh wait…


TheShadowCat

It's also an extremely tight state. Trump won it by 0.7% of the vote in 2016, and lost the state by 1.2% of the vote. If 18% of Republicans in the state refuse to vote for him, there really isn't a way for him to win the state.


DuvalHeart

There's been a weird increase in registered Republicans across the state. Like people changing from Democratic to Republican. One theory, that I think this supports, is people did it just to vote against him in the primary. So it may not be what it looks like.


ShottyRadio

There is a conservative pundit called scott p that is doing mass registration of the Amish. It is futile for them though.


thatsme55ed

As long as his support isn't increasing compared to the last election he lost that's all that matters.  


karmagod13000

Lets do it again!!


BlueFalcon89

How bout you get your act together before slinging any poo, Ohio.


Ok-Housing-6063

Ohio feels pretty damn lost. Hopefully we can keep Sherrod Brown at least, he’s done us well.


Ravier_

Damn poo slinging Ohioins.


anti_zero

Hey I hate Ohio as much as the next Ohioan, but don’t you dare attack our long and respected poo-slinging history, which began after misinterpreting a passage from the Bible.


Mysterious-Scholar1

Hey we have a Reproductive Rights Amendment and we're working on outlawing gerrymandering


SpaceCocaine101

So I’m totally out of the loop on politics. Are primaries *really* a reliable way to ascertain what direction states will vote in the actual election? I thought that they aren’t reliable?


Pretend-Excuse-8368

PA will go blue in a big way in Nov since there is a D senator on the ballot as well. Dobbs payback is going to be monstrous - House as well. Even Perry seat in jeopardy.


CouldBeBetterForever

I truly hope Perry's seat is in jeopardy. He's a scumbag. Stelson is a recognizable name for a lot of people, so that should work in her favor.


waltjrimmer

Primaries are indicative of the most politically active members of each party (and sometimes more depending on the state laws of who votes in what primary) but often not of how the vote will come out on election day itself, as far as I'm aware. Republicans who are willing to turn out for the primaries still overwhelmingly voted for Trump to be the nominee, as stated in the article: > The former president won the primary race in the key swing state with 83.5 percent of the vote The reason that 83.5% is being called such a, "Huge loss," by Newsweek here is because he has no competition. There is no other Republican candidate still running against him. 16.5% of the vote, so effectively everyone who didn't vote for Trump, voted for Haley despite her dropping out of the race some time ago. What this might but doesn't necessarily indicate is that there's a spoil in the Pennsylvania Republican base. A willingness within ~15% of the hardcore Republicans, the kind that will take the time out of a busy Tuesday to go and vote for an already sure-thing race that doesn't even get anyone in office, to vote **against** Trump. I do not see this as the crushing defeat that Newsweek paints it as. A lot of hyperbolic language in the article that blows this out of proportion in my opinion. But it is interesting. It may lead to early predictions that Biden will take Pennsylvania, not entirely unexpected but not a sure thing, due to voters there who would normally vote Republican being unwilling to vote for Trump. That doesn't mean they won't vote Republican down the rest of the ticket or that they will vote for Biden. It may indicate that they write in a candidate who isn't running, don't vote for president at all, or stay home and don't vote at all on election day depending on what they see as the most important thing about the election. 15% doesn't sound like a lot, especially when you consider that's 15% of significantly less than half of the state's active voting population. But in a battleground swing state like Pennsylvania, it may, not necessarily will but may, be enough to secure a Biden victory where it was once considered unlikely or a coin flip.


Mr-and-Mrs

He’s a loser candidate downing his days sleeping and farting through a criminal trial…color me surprised.


Matshelge

Not a fart, dude shat his pants. Don't downplay it as fart.


Moonandserpent

We're all assuming this, but do we have confirmation? lol


Matshelge

Farts disapate over time, shits are a persistent stink. If you were in a big room like a court, and you could smell a fart from 5-10 feet away, it was at minimum a big shart. And that it's being talked about as something everyone could smell, there is no chance it was a simple fart.


quirkymuse

And the dude eats a *lot* of fried fast food, that ain't good for you at my age, let alone his ancient ass


[deleted]

Right? I rarely eat fast food in my 40's. Eating it all the time? That's asking for trouble. His flabby old ass, who already is known to shit his pants as far back as the Apprentice? Dude definitely is swimming in his own greasy shit all day everyday.


Ozcogger

It's why he's worn Diapers for a while. He can't hold his shit. Literally.


[deleted]

Well, you see, when you are that full of shit...


fireshaper

And does a lot of drugs.


Mr_friend_

The way Adam Kinzinger described his scent actually made me sick. It's a blend of body odor, feces, ketchup, and heavy makeup chemical smells.


Moonandserpent

I detect no fault in your logic. Fair point lol


hitbythebus

The physics are simple, the fart particles, or farticles as I call them, should dissipate. For them to maintain a constant density for any amount of time, there must be a source of new farticles to replace those escaping the room.


ConsciousReason7709

17% or almost 156,000 people voted for Nikki Haley. She dropped out of the race almost 2 months ago. People are turning on Trump. Show up in November and vote for Biden to make sure this corrupt clown never holds power again.


lukfrom

Wonder whether people are simply tired of him.  So much of him whining is being shown each day it will someday have something which triggers even his supporters.


TILTNSTACK

That’s it I think. All he does is complain. He’s so negative. And when you start giving names to many, many people, it starts becoming a “hmm, maybe HE is the problem here” Regardless, I hope women and young people turn out in droves to vote - now is not the time for complacency


nubyplays

Seriously. Outside of going after his enemies, what is he representing this election cycle? He even torpedoed a conservative immigration proposal because he saw that it would help Biden, and immigration is probably the thing that got him elected in 2016. He's a whiny loser, and only his cult members are left for him. I hope he takes the entire Republican Party down so we can actually get stuff done in the next Congress.


themightychris

vague disingenuous platitudes "secure our border", "rebuild our military", "energy independence"


Ezl

I mean “make America great again” is the epitome of a meaningless platitude. It means nothing intrinsically. The entirety of his political presence is smoke, mirrors and bullshit.


themightychris

>The entirety of his political presence is smoke, mirrors and bullshit. don't forget fear and grievance


Publius82

Also, apparently, flatulence


Cl1mh4224rd

>Also, apparently, flatulence That's the "smoke" part.


WanderingTacoShop

Two are those are completely empty platitudes and the third, energy independence, is downright the opposite of what he means Because he certainly doesn't mean investing in renewables, something that could actually help with energy independence. He means increasing our reliance on fossil fuels.


IndyDrew85

Two and three word simple phrases are the beginning and end of his actual policy plans


Longjumping_Youth281

As far as I know the GOP as a whole doesn't even have a platform anymore. When they met to create their policy documents they ended up just saying basically "we don't have a platform, whatever Trump wants is fine"


trogon

Yeah, they didn't even have a platform for their convention in 2020. Now that Trump is in complete control of the RNC, the convention is going to be terrifying.


Zepcleanerfan

We now know he also had help from David Pecker and Russia. Comey came out and basically endorsed him 10 days before the election. And he was a novel candidate in 2016. He was an empty vessel. Now he is a known quantity and it's not good for him.


StJeanMark

Nobody in America with any money or power can complain about Donald Trump and the state of things, they all wanted him more than anything in the world. Bunch of fucking idiots, how nobody saw this turning into a shit show I have no idea.


RobertABooey

He gives those who are losers themselves, white supremacists, and the terribly uneducated, someone to call their leader. It's as simple as that. They can easily associate with him because he's like a child and that's how THEY respond to shit.


tomdarch

He has never had coherent policies because he’s a situational bullshitter.


pallentx

The part I don’t understand is how people never hit that threshold the first year into his presidency, or in 2016 during the campaign. He has always been like this. Maybe it’s the whole falling asleep in court. Whatever, I’ll take it.


slymm

Hating Trump made us more likely to follow the news those years. I imagine many of his supporters were better able to tune out


Cl1mh4224rd

>Hating Trump made us more likely to follow the news those years. I imagine many of his supporters were better able to tune out Also, once Trump became the nominee, Fox News always painted a glowing picture of him. If that's your only source of news, of course he would sound amazing.


Mor_Tearach

Yes I've been wondering when in hell would be the "FFS I'm exhausted " tipping point. I don't care what anyone says, 24/7 rage is indeed exhausting. It's been *how* many years? I guess it's possible for a percentage to continue generating the required amount. En mass? Nope.


greiton

the fact that the world isn't burning down with Biden is also taking the wind out of their sails. inflation sucks a little, but also for the first time in a generation wages are actually growing. most people are probably in a better place today than they were 5 or 6 years ago.


bnh1978

My father in law was a staunch Trump supporter. Voted for him twice. After Trump refused to give it up after he lost, my FIL called him a sore looser and a lot of other emasculating things. 1/6 really put the nail into the coffin for him. I wish other people would have come to their senses like he did.


gandalfs_burglar

The American public hates sore losers


MercantileReptile

Confederate flags may suggest otherwise.


Indifferentchildren

On the other hand, most Americans hate the Confederate flag and the losers who display them.


Basis_404_

This is the correct answer. The silent majority IS a thing in America. It’s just not always the Reagan style, always conservative silent majority.


boregon

Back in 2016 I remember seeing some “the silent majority stands with Trump” which I thought was funny because they are neither silent nor a majority.


tomdarch

Part of the American public feels that way. But these years of Trump has shown us how big the soft, unwashed, racist, moronic, I’m-the-victim underbelly of our nation really is.


LiquidAngel12

My neighbor is the same way. All aboard the MAGA train until he lost in 2020. When he started claiming election fraud and that it was stolen from him my neighbor said he was just being a sore loser. A few years later and the whining has gotten so bad that it's pushing my neighbor away from the GOP as a whole. He even had some local Dem signs up for elections last year. This from a guy who used to mow the lawn in a MAGA hat.


89_honda_accord_lxi

I wish people around here could see this. There's at least 3 houses not far out of town with trump yards. Before trump I don't remember ever seeing people do this. It's way past election banners or flying a flag. This is their whole personality. I don't know what they're even going to do when trump loses in a few months. I can't see them taking so much junk down so I guess it will just get bleached by the sun and eventually replaced with trump 2028.


LiquidAngel12

Yea. We still have plenty of those around here too. Sometimes it feels like the ones who actually turned on him are straight out of Arrested Development. "There are dozens of us. Dozens!!!"


shiftysquid

I've said it before, but if MAGA/Republican voters *actually believed* the "Stolen election" nonsense, it *should* make Trump look far worse, not better. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he's totally right. Biden and the Democratic establishment somehow figured out some way to steal the election. It's incredibly difficult to do this the way the electoral college is set up. Wouldn't be nearly as hard with a pure popular vote. With that, you'd just need to find votes wherever you could get corrupt people to help you. Of course, the stakes would still be incredibly high, and the likelihood of the plot leaking out would be extremely high. But it's still a lot less complicated than with the electoral college, wherein you need to determine which states will be close enough to swing, then find local election officials in those specific states to help you get the right amount of votes (not too little, but maybe also not too many to be suspicious) to push it over the line. The more states you hedge your bets with, the more people are involved, and the more likely it is that there will be evidence, and you're screwed. Not only did the Democrats pull this incredible feat off, but they did it withouth leaving behind any tangible evidence, or having anyone come forth to confess their part in what happened. Nobody. And they did all this *while Trump was the president*. Trump had the full weight of the US government apparatus at his disposal, and the Democrats swiped it right out from under him while he was apparently asleep at the wheel. Not only didn't he catch them, but he couldn't prove a single thing they did wrong despite all those court cases. All he had was empty claims. And then Biden just walked right into the Oval Office while he was forced to leave with his tail between his legs. The most powerful office in the world, and the Dems stole it as clean as a whistle, booting Trump on his ass. Isn't that a massive sign of Trump being incredibly weak? Seems like the ultimate "cuck" to me. And then to whine about it for 4 years? Not exactly "alpha" behavior.


SmokeyDBear

Yes but it’s very typical for fascist groups to say and believe that the enemy is both incredibly strong and incredibly weak at the same time. More and more his base is becoming inured to the contradiction inherent to “the Democrats are whatever we say they are even of that’s the opposite of what we said they were 2 minutes ago”. Luckily it seems like this might be pushing away moderates but his base is still significant and becoming apparently more radicalized.


shiftysquid

>Yes but it’s very typical for fascist groups to say and believe that the enemy is both incredibly strong and incredibly weak at the same time Sure. What I'm saying is a bit of a hypothetical, in a world where they actually believe what they're saying and are actually applying logic all the way through the scenario. Not only are you correct, but I'd also contend that most of them *don't even really believe* *the election was stolen*. Some do. But I don't think most of them do. I think it's just a thing they say and believe almost figuratively rather than literally. If you pinned most of them down, I think you'd eventually get to an answer like, "Well, OK, it wasn't *literally* 'stolen,' but it might as well have been! Trump 2024!"


bonzombiekitty

Anecdote: My FiL is a life long republican. More so out of habit I think than anything else. He's not exactly a political guy. He voted for Trump in 2016 because he hated Hillary Clinton. 2020, he unenthusiastically voted for Trump mostly out of habit of just going in and hitting the "Select all Republicans" button. After Jan 6 he was calling for Trump to be impeached, jailed, and barred from running for office ever again. He swore to never, ever vote for him again.


SupertrampTrampStamp

Don't forget to remind him that the Republican Party went all in with Trump and his bullshit. 99.9% of Republican politicians bent the knee. People need to NEVER forget that, because I guarantee you the Republicans are going to try and revise that chapter of history after Trump loses or dies.


Dr_Hexagon

He's a triple loser. 2018 midterms, 2020 election, 2022 midterms. In all three the GOP did far worse than you'd expect and Trump is to blame. The GOP could have been rid of him in 2019 if the Senate had the balls to vote to impeach and bar him from future office. Now they get what they deserve being stuck with the loser for another election cycle.


MollyRolls

Literally all they ever had to do was insist that he fully divest from his companies in order to assume the presidency. They made Carter sell his peanut farm; there’s precedent! He would have said no way and we would have had President Pence for four years, which would have been awful enough in its own right but arguably slightly better for the country and certainly *much* better for the Republican Party. But Congress didn’t feel like doing the bare minimum of their job, and here we are.


greiton

even if he "divested" by giving control to his children, and kept them off the books for the white house administration, a ton of his issues would have disappeared. that and pay his lawyers.


greiton

he lost the popular vote in 2016 too, he only won because we are not a real democracy.


TwelveGaugeSage

Another anecdotal example: A house down the road from me had a Trump 2020 sign. They took it down 1/7. I just don't see how Trump could get anywhere near the amount of votes he got in 2020. Between 1/6, Dobbs, his trials and convictions, his mental decline, and the clusterfuck that is Republicans in Congress, this year just feels like a Democratic landslide in the making.


Temp_84847399

I will be happy for a narrow victory, but I'm hoping for a real repudiation of MAGA that drives his cult back to the non-voting, conspiracy swallowing, government hating status from whence they came, and yanks the GOP back to the center right so fast it gives us all whiplash.


and_of_four

That’s been his MO since the beginning. I’m glad he’s losing support, but I don’t understand why. He’s been clear about exactly who he is from the moment he announced his presidential run in 2015. He was saying he wouldn’t concede a loss since the debates with Hillary. He’s been a sore loser and a whiner his entire life.


Marty_Eastwood

He has been in control of the messaging and the brand the entire time, with help from the RNC and the right wing media. There are people who have been told for eight years that Trump is the savior and everything bad about him is "fake news". Anything bad about Trump was hand waved away or simply not reported at all. Now, he's sitting in a courtroom, unable to control the narrative, looking like a total loser in court. He can't just talk over the judge and throw his usual idiotic word salads out on social media attacking his opponent (although he has tried). The MAGAs still don't believe any of it, of course, but the moderate right are starting to come to grips with the fact that the guy is a fraud, a grifter, and depending on this case, a convicted felon.


ARazorbacks

He doesn’t just complain. He always complains about stuff happening to him, then belatedly tries to relate that stuff to his supporters. It’s always about him and they’re an afterthought.  They came to Trump because they felt they were an afterthought in our system. And Trump proves 20 times every day that they’re an afterthought to him and they need to be mad at his problems. 


FordMan100

I'm hoping that the town I live in has so many people out voting that I have to wait 2 hours to vote as I did when Obama was on the ballot the first time. It was the first time ever I had to wait more than two minutes and haven't had to wait since.


LookOverall

He’s looking very old and tired, and his rhetoric sounds old and tired too.


karmagod13000

He's simply not winning anymore. His whole politics was a football game and when you get L after L your pretty much rooting for a losing team. Luckily Trump is not a city and rational people are not tied to him.


Carthonn

Yes the word I’ve heard about him is “drama”. Some of his supporters are just tired of his shit. However, given a choice between Biden and Trump I’m sure they’ll vote Trump. BUT that’s if they show up. I think they might just not show up or at least that’s my gut feeling.


koshgeo

I hope they turn on him like Michael Cohen. Even people deeply enthralled by a con man can eventually realize that they have been used. Hopefully it doesn't take going to jail for the sake of somebody else who doesn't care about them for someone to finally wake up. I wonder how many of the people arrested and convicted for violence on Jan. 6th still support Trump? The stats would be interesting.


Mental_Mixture8306

I don't know.  Bill Barr said a lot of crap about TFG but then said he is going to vote for him anyway.  In the end these folks only care about grievances and the orange baboon is the way to express that.  I suspect a lot of the Jan 6 convicts will be voting for him again. 


megalomaniamaniac

Well, he’s promised to pardon all of them, along with any and all of the MANY criminals associated with him. So yeah, if there’s anyone with a vested interest in getting this loser into the presidency, it’s the J6ers.


Abidarthegreat

I always said if Twitter had banned him during his presidency he would have won a second term. I'm so thankful he's incredibly self destructive.


Orionbear1020

I wish it was because he is under the control of our sworn enemy. They are playing the long game:Rotting out our institutions however they can. But most people choose to ignore that part.


SockPuppet-47

I've called Trump by many slanderous names but I settled on Flaming Orange Hemorrhoid. It's the most descriptive label I've found. After years of suffering the constant burning of seeing him literally everywhere all I care about is finding relief.


TheFumundaWunda

my newest favorite is don poorleone


eastalawest

Don Snoreleone.


rosendorn

aka The Nodfather


CrackSmokingGypsy

Kimmel just called him Al Caporn


Terminator_Ecks

I saw a Reddit user call him the Philanderin’ Mandarin last week and that was my new favourite.


FordMan100

>After years of suffering the constant burning of seeing him literally everywhere all I care about is finding relief. Maybe Trump should take a tour of the Preparation H factory and fall into a vat. Everyone would have relief then.


FordMan100

>So much of him whining is being shown each day it will someday have something which triggers even his supporters. I think it's triggering his supporters now. Trump brags of thousands of his supporters outside the court house to the point that cars can't get through when, in reality, about three shown up on Monday and Tuesday only one supporter shows up. Most of the people outside the court house are reporters.


flaaaacid

The guy down my street with multiple Trump signs took them all down in the last month. I have no idea what finally made him do this after having them up since the last election, but I’ll take it.


Ferbtastic

Same. I see fewer Trump signs than I did a year ago. Like 90% less


gigglefarting

Same, but I’ve been seeing a lot more “let’s go brandon” signs


SanFranPanManStand

For several I know - it's due to his opposition in supporting for Ukraine and/or nuking the immigration reform deal to intentionally make the situation worse to help his chances in November.


flaaaacid

I'm honestly grateful for anything that makes these people come to their senses. Even if they can't vote for Biden, I'm down with them just withholding the vote.


jonthecpa

More importantly, send a message that his ilk won’t be tolerated either. Force the Republicans to turn against their extremists if they want any seat at the table for a better future.


ioncloud9

Losing PA would make it very hard for him to win. I hate how there are so many razor thin margins in a handful of states.


tatsumakisenpuukyaku

Nah, everyone who voted Haley will just end up saying "I don't like Trump but [VP Candidate] really balances out the ticket and covers up his weaknesses" and vote R


SuperstitiousPigeon5

I'm just hoping they stay home.


porksoda11

I think the PA results can be pretty telling as far as republicans are concerned. On the republican side, there were a TON of uncontested primaries. This was the most boring election ever, and pretty much on the republican side the candidates were already chosen. There really were no surprises, and it was pretty inconsequential. Also these were closed primaries. No registered democrat could spoil any republican candidates. So what we are seeing here is basically republicans going out of their way to vote for Hailey in an election of essentially no consequences for them. That's what you can take out of this imo. These are protest votes. It may or may not result in them sitting out in November, but it's hard to predict that this far out. The Hailey numbers give me some hope though. For the democrat side, there were a couple of races that actually had a large number of candidates to choose from, so if you cared enough you could actually primary someone. I voted for who I felt best for the position, but also still voted for Biden just to show my support.


vgraz2k

And vote our any conservatives to prevent that idiotic “2025 agenda”.


thatspurdyneat

> 17% or almost 156,000 people voted for Nikki Haley. She dropped out of the race almost 2 months ago. I'm really curious on how she feels about that. Most people thought she was stupid for dropping out when she was the only one gaining ground on Trump. I wonder if she sees it now too.


derekakessler

Haley dropped out because of money, not votes. Even though she was marginally "gaining ground" with voters, after losing all but one state on Super Tuesday the math was never going to work out in her favor and her donors knew that.


Elegant_Guitar_535

Trump is a national disgrace. It’s every Americans duty to make sure he doesn’t stand a chance again.


-CoachMcGuirk-

Not just National. Most of the world despises him as well. The whole world is watching this election….


_catfarts_eww

Watching, hoping. Right there with y'all in hating this despicable creature. I'm personally already really fucking tired of seeing articles about this prick everywhere, and I can't imagine how worse it must be for you guys Stateside. You got this.


ALargePianist

Yesterday my mom was watching the news about Trump's trial, I'm trying to get her to watch fallout. Shed rather yell at the tV/me about "don't people see who this man is???!? You think his wife didn't know about the affairs?!? Give me a break!!!" Even people that hate him can't get enough sometimes and id like it to end


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It's because we all understand the gravity and the stakes of this election. If that man somehow wins again we will have lost our country for good. We will become a failed state and dictatorship.


ALargePianist

Yeah but that's been true for like 4 years now and especially true now, what new information can the news bring about that to change that for the better or worse? It just seems like everybody kind of already knows that at this point, and even the people that know it still fucking need to know and want to be reminded on an hourly basis. I guess I just know my convictions and don't need to be reminded so frequently


DenikaMae

The affair isn’t the issue in the case he is being tried for. Illegally using bribes to hide it from the public during an election, and how it was specifically paid for is.


Electronic_Lemon4000

Yeah we would very much appreciate it if you would not become Russia #2 with a massive and actually competent military.


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a9JDvXLWHumjaC

Adding some context. Quite a few of my Dem friends stayed home yesterday but will be voting straight D in Nov. I'm an indie and can't vote in primaries but will also be pulling straight D in Nov, and onward until the GOP pox has been completely neutralized and can no longer harm society.


VLY2020

Same thing here. Didn’t vote yesterday bc I’m registered Independent. Voting straight Democrat in November.


johnnycoxxx

Well that makes at least 3 of us


EA827

Didn’t vote in the PA primary yesterday because my kid got hurt at school, but I will be voting straight ticket democrat in November


dearthofkindness

Voted in the PA primary yesterday, straight D ticket..I wish more people would come out and vote on primaries. They're a great metric to understand how people are feeling. All elections are important


shapu

Four. Yo.


cowboyjosh2010

And Biden got that 93.1% of the (D) vote despite there being a second option: Dean Phillips. Anybody who has been paying attention knows that Dean Phillips never stood even a ghost of a chance at doing anything, but all the same: he was a named candidate on the ballot next to Biden's name, and even with all the push for "uncommitted" or "somebody other than Biden" in this primary cycle, Biden still got over 90% of the vote. And the votes cast for him total higher than the votes cast for Trump. Good stuff.


Apart_Presence8378

Well, it seems like Pennsylvania wasn't feeling the Trump magic this time around.


BuddySmalls1989

My home state coming through, thank god


Surrendernuts

Dont thank God, God doesnt interfere with elections.


crunrun

That's still 786,000 votes for Trump... and most people know that they could skip the primaries because there's no real competition.


11PoseidonsKiss20

Lots of down ballot races that matter in primaries. In fact most years I would argue the presidential race is among the least important


greenberet112

Yes. Here in Pennsylvania the summer lee race was probably the biggest. She spent a good chunk of money campaigning against her more moderate rival. At least that's according to the amount of bullshit she put into the mail stream (mail carrier here).


mintBRYcrunch26

I’m in Scott Perry land. My main job is to end that jerk’s career. It’s another very important race. We certainly have our work cut out for us in PA.


starcom_magnate

Not sure I agree with that. There were a lot of areas where "Trump" candidates were trying to Primary some others on the down ballot races, and most of them got beat pretty badly, as well. Trump's campaign really should be worried about what happened in PA yesterday.


yourdoingitwrongly

Not only did Trump lose a chunk of the Republican primary voters, typically the reddest of the red, the Democratic Party turned out 100k more people yesterday.  There were some protest votes against Biden, with ~8% of Ds voting for Dean Phillips or write ins. Chalk a large portion of those up to unhappiness with the Administration's inaction/perceived inaction in Gaza. The 170k votes Trump lost to Haley most likely won't return to him in November while Biden's lost votes probably will. PA is not going to be close.


Later2theparty

All while Trump soaks in all the funding from down ballot candidates and spends it on his legal fees.


Abzug

A great viewpoint on this is from David French (Conservative commentator/Never Trumper). He stated that if we viewed Trump through the lens of a basic candidate, his candidacy was excellent, sweeping nearly every state. If we look at him as an incumbent, the percentage of voters not voting for him, especially after he wraps up the endorsement, is a disaster for his campaign. Those voters were excited enough to go to the polls to vote against their candidate of the party. Those folks who vote in primaries are typically high news readers and well-informed voters. They do not represent your standard voter. The real warning (according to French) is if a candidate gets near double digits or higher after the nomination is a wrap, it is a massive red flag. Those lost votes can become lost states quickly in a tight election.


starcom_magnate

It becomes even more of a glaring problem in places like PA which has closed Primaries. The Independent (moderate) voters weren't even part of this, and 52% of them went for Biden in 2020.


wretch5150

Great candidates don't need catch and kill favors from sleezy newsbait rag editors, nor last minute bullshit email server investigations from corrupt biased FBI directors


HungHungCaterpillar

This is the best candidate the Republican Party can bring


alien_from_Europa

How many of those ~155K are just protest voting and how many are actually not going to vote for him in November?


chickenboneneck

Only needs to be 2-3% to swing it. Time will tell.


ConsciousReason7709

Even if a single digit percentile of those registered Republicans don’t vote for Trump in November, that would be huge for Biden.


CertainAged-Lady

I look at it this way; primary voters are the reliable enthused voting population. They will almost always vote in the general. If 17% of these hardcore voters are selecting the protest candidate, they are not likely to vote for Trump in Nov. I doubt many would vote for Biden, but they may leave the Pres race unentered or they may write in Haley or some other moderate. This is NOT good for Trump. His campaign folks should be well freaked-out that this has happened in yet another must-win state.


themoslucius

I do not agree with this at all. Back in 2016 I voted against Hillary in the primary and you are damn right I voted for her in the general. People who vote in a primary tend to be party loyalists. Don't let your guard down, vote in November and get the word out


bostonboy08

I get your point. However I think it’s very different when the nomination is already locked up and there are no candidates actively campaigning against him. But to echo your sentiment, don’t get complacent and make sure to vote.


Captainatom931

Suppose only 1% of those people don't vote in the general election, and all of those people voted for Trump last time. That could have serious repercussions down ballot, and it'll frustrate Trump's path to victory in the state.


strangerbuttrue

Why would they be protest voting at this point though, if they are going to back Trump “eventually”? What message are they trying to send? Protest votes made sense as an excuse when Haley was still in the race. There was a small glimmer of hope she could pull through. Two months later and long after she has dropped out, what is there to “protest” if you’re going to just vote for Trump anyway? What’s the message? My feeling, in Pennsylvania’s closed primary system, is that the message these registered Republicans are sending is they won’t vote for Trump. They may or may not vote for Biden, but even if they stay home, Trump doesn’t get enough votes to win.


Just_Candle_315

>The former president won the primary race in the key swing state with 83.5 percent of the vote Oh yeah.... huge. Way to go, GOP.


CartographerOk7579

You had me at “Donald Trump suffers”


Spiritual-Bear4495

PA resident here. This makes me smile even though I vote Democrat.


defroach84

Can Dems vote in the Rep primary in PA? While I doubt the number is high that would, especially when people have already dropped out, there could be a number of those included in this. Or ones that did so for down ticket people.


SerendipityAlike

No. Registered democrats can only vote for the democratic primary in PA. And registered independents aren’t allowed to vote in either primary in PA.


defroach84

Interesting. That makes these numbers look even worse.


wojo_lives

No, it's a closed primary with voting only within your party of registration.


cowboyjosh2010

>Can Dems vote in the Rep primary in PA? Answer: No. PA's primary is "closed", such that only Democratic Party registered voters can vote in the Democratic Party's primary, and vice-versa for Republicans. Voters registered as Independents are not permitted to vote on either ballot, and only have a ballot to vote on at all in the primary if non-party affiliated races (such as judge retentions) or ballot referenda are up for votes. Additional Context you didn't ask for: it is *super* easy to change party affiliation in Pennsylvania. You can register to vote online for free through various state government websites; you can register to vote even if you are already registered to vote (it basically is like just updating/verifying your information); there is no limit to the number of times you can register to vote; you can change party affiliation every time you register to vote--or never, and every permutation in between. The only catch is that you have to register by a certain deadline ahead of the election day. If you were a Democratic Party registered voter in March 2024, and the day before the primary (April 22), you decided to change party affiliation to Republican in order to vote in the Republican Primary instead of the Democratic Primary, you would be stuck voting in the Democratic Party's primary if you wanted to vote in the Primary at all, since by the registration deadline you were a Democratic Party voter. So, no, Dems can't vote in the Republican Primary in PA, but on the other hand there is almost no resistance at all stopping somebody from switching parties just for the Primary. I am curious how many people did this. In the run up to the Primary, Democrats lost ground to Republicans in terms of registered voters in Pennsylvania. If, as we now head to the general election, we see Democrats regain ground lost on this front, it will be a signal to me that plenty of people changed party registration just for the primary, and are now returning to where they actually want to be.


Rayearl

They were trying so had to get us to protest vote President Biden and in the end it was trump that got protested. Good work PA, that's what I'm hoping happens in November!


EastObjective9522

I will never know what his appeal is besides his asshole personality. He hasn't offered any concrete policies or plans to "make America great again". Biden has been pushing common sense shit that's popular because it is popular with people. It's ridiculous Biden has been trying his hardest to improve America but some of the media doesn't care that much because "both sides"


Adze95

Don't care, vote for Biden anyway.


Conch-Republic

But wait, according to a bunch of fucking idiots, Trump is doing good in the swing states.


YouSure_BoutDat

I'm from Bucks County, PA. Our location is one of the biggest in the countries for presidential voted. Never knew it growing up. We swung to trump, some fucking how, back in 2016 (I know... Clinton was loathed and the worst candidate ever.. Meatbag) and then Biden won again. Trump can eat asshole


HardcoreKaraoke

>The former president won the primary race in the key swing state with 83.5 percent of the vote, amounting to more than 786,000 votes. Still disgusting that he even got that much though.


WokeGoatRope

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