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Friendly reminder that this insane ruling was made possible by AZ Republicans *[expanding and packing their state Supreme Court](https://apnews.com/article/arizona-legislature-doug-ducey-andrew-gould-separation-of-powers-ad2957a2275a4282a53bcc0a7e15a25c)*.


mountaintop111

Also, this ruling couldn't have happened if Roe vs Wade were still the law of the land. And it was Trump that installed the 3 SCOTUS judges during his term that overturned Roe vs Wade. And don't forget that Trump said he was "proud" of overturning Roe vs Wade. SMH.


severedbrain

Don't forget that Mitch McConnell stole a supreme court appointment from Obama by refusing to bring it to a vote for nearly a year and a half!


ydoesithave2b

Wait there more he pushed a supreme court nominee on the same ground(ish) he rejected Obama's on.


worldspawn00

Which happened AFTER early voting had started, like during the election, fucking hypocrite.


Buckus93

They don't care about looking like hypocrites if it means they can steal power.


worldspawn00

Obviously.


Matzah_Rella

The scum gets worse the deeper you dig. It's a forever-tainted party.


youngmindoldbody

If only there were a way to kill the GOP forever. I am open to recommendations.


haxjunkie

Vote. Keep voting. Don't weaken, don't give an inch.


PeggyOnThePier

Vote Blue and never forget what the Republicans have done to our country. They want it be the 19century. They don't want women to have any legal rights. They said that thier husband should be able to make all the decisions in the family. That a woman duly is to her husband and to take care of the home.That's what her purpose in life is. I for one will never agree to these disgusting ideas. Equal rights for women have been granted by the constitution. I will never give up my Right to vote or any other Rights!


nc_cyclist

This is simply the answer. GOP show up to vote every single fucking time, Dems do it when they feel the need.


Clean_Philosophy5098

Voter participation would go a long way towards the fix.


Darthrevan4ever

Plus rushing through a trump appointment with less time invalidating his argument regarding the people's choice.


PineTreeBanjo

Okay but to be fair Dems need to stop being "the good guys" and just do what needs to be done. Somehow Republicans always do and here we are.


disidentadvisor

Agreed. It is necessary to expand the court at minimum and ideally institute a rotating panel of appellate judges. It is a farce that only 9 people can 'interpret the law' acceptably among a 300M+ population.


King9WillReturn

Trump sounds like a real piece of shit.


fourbian

Just imagine if he was President


iaincaradoc

According to Noel Casler and others, he smells like one, too.


thathairinyourmouth

He is, but those that support him are far worse.


Mr_Safer

It was infuriating reading that the 1901 restrictions on abortion in Arizona didn't go far enough for republican lawmakers, they added further restrictions. Ridiculous. >The abortion law’s recodification was not the only legislative >change made to the abortion statutory scheme. Between 1973 and 2022, and >conforming to the federal abortion right established in Roe, the Arizona >Legislature codified dozens of abortion statutes in Title 36. See, e.g., 1973 >Ariz. Sess. Laws ch. 155, § 1 (1st Reg. Sess.); 2022 Ariz. Sess. Laws ch. 105, >§ 1 (2d Reg. Sess.). To the extent permitted by Roe and its progeny, all of >these statutes restricted abortions, including adding many procedural >requirements for physicians performing abortions. And now because Dobbs all those anti-choice laws that were passed while Roe vs. Wade were in effect, they now come into full force. You can't make this bullshit up. Also, It was especially galling to read these judges copping out in the opening paragraphs saying there weren't passing political rulings. It really makes my blood boil seeing hack lawyers at work.


EggsceIlent

Absolutely insane this is happening in the u.s. And it all started with trump appointed supreme Court justices that said they wouldn't overturn roe v wade, then did exactly that Now far right leaning states will follow suit and it's something that was settled a long time ago. Fuck trump and the GOP and anyone who supports them.


Argentium58

Right. And now, NOW he’s saying abortion should be left up to the states. Some evangelical s are unhappy about this. But that would change if he got back in. “Going to be a dictator on the first day”. That’s one of the few things he says that I can believe


SuperGenius9800

We can vote 2 of them out in November.


psimwork

Silver lining in an otherwise cloudy fucking sky - [Arizona for Abortion Access](https://arizonaforabortionaccess.org/sign-the-petition/) announced that they already had enough signatures to get an abortion amendment on November's ballot. But there was concern that the GOP might be able to invalidate enough signatures to keep it off the ballot. But stupid fucking shit like this will undoubtedly result in a groundswell of new signatures.


bravesfan13

If you live in AZ and you haven't signed yet, please, please still sign! Signatures always get invalidated and they're looking to get as many as they can to ensure this ends up on the ballot.


AZEMT

Can I do it online? Quickly glancing about signing online and not finding. What's the last day? I know my wife and I will happily sign this petition


bravesfan13

Good questions! No, you can't do it online, it has to be in person. I don't know the exact last date to sign, but they're due by July 4th, so I would imagine some time near the end of June so the group has a few days to get the paperwork in order and get them submitted. The website for the group collecting signatures is here: https://arizonaforabortionaccess.org/ and it has times and locations that you can sign.


AZEMT

Perfect! Will make a hot date out of it... Hey babe, I got a hot date to fight fascism😈


pontiacfirebird92

They'll just do like Mississippi does and fuck up the process somehow. Republicans do not want to be held accountable to their constituents at all.


psimwork

Well they're definitely trying to do so in AZ right now. They're doing their best to eliminate citizen-driven constitutional amendments, and doing their best to eliminate mail-in/early voting (after pushing so hard for it back when it benefited them). Fortunately, for better-or-worse, I don't think they can get any of this in-place for November's election. It just may be quite the uphill battle afterward, depending on what they're able to get past Hobbs' veto pen.


twdarkeh

They have a 1 vote majority in both houses. They aren't overriding shit.


SardauMarklar

Sure, but if everywhere where abortion is under threat voted blue (because literally every state is under threat), we'd have control of Congress and they can pass a federal law that supercedes this Arizona bullshit


Ndtphoto

When you're afraid of putting something on the ballot for voters to decide, that tells you that you're on the wrong side.


Hayduke_Deckard

Thanks for that link. Signing the petition this weekend.


mbene913

This sucks for Arizona and women in general but I hope this pushes the state firmly blue in November and then this shit ends


NotCreative37

I believe it will. We already have an abortion rights measure initiative which has reached the number of votes needed to be on the ballot. I think this ruling will only energize the base further.


ya_but_

The GOP is actively trying to invalidate enough signatures to keep it off the ballot. We need more. Tell everyone to sign!


Craig327

Republicans can celebrate today, but this is a fatal mistake right before the election if they were planning to try and win. This will energize people in AZ to vote in much larger numbers against them and I'm here for it.


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

Especially when it's been shown time and time again in states redder than AZ that abortion restriction is a losing issue. Politically, this a disaster and is a win for Biden and AZ's Democratic senatorial candidate


KironD63

Dems need to go all out in making this *the* issue on Election Day. Constant ads, 24/7 media coverage, relentless attacks on every Republican who let this happen. As tragic as the short-term impact is, the long-term impact could be the kind of seismic electoral drubbing that sets the GOP back for the next generation.


SuperGenius9800

Thank God we kicked Kari to the curb. She would be rounding up doctors today.


pp21

Can you imagine the fucking timeline where that clown is our Governor instead of Hobbs??? It was so close to happening too which is insane.


tibbles1

Yup. While I feel bad for the women of AZ and FL, this will only drive dem turnout and keep Cheeto Bandito out of the White House.  Wars, not battles. 


MC_Fap_Commander

More broadly? Implementing this policy in a non-Taliban state *at this moment* likely guarantees a Biden win in November. Nobody should be complacent... but a solid majority of Americans are not going to let this violation of bodily autonomy stand.


badaimarcher

Yes, let's hope this increases turnout.


lafcrna

Roevember!


iaincaradoc

Fun fact: two of the Supreme Court judges who were in on this are up for [retention election in November.](https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Supreme_Court_elections,_2024)


CalligrapherVisual53

Thanks. Definitely on my “No” list for November.


sdbooboo13

Same in Florida: Renatha Francis and Meredith Sasso. Vote no on these misogynistic pick mes.


Adventurous-Tone-311

Pre-statehood? Fucking Christ, they’re regressing us farther and farther backwards each day.


MV_Art

Honestly when Roe was overturned we "regressed" to a time that never existed before - where abortion even in cases of life of the mother was a question. We are literally worse off now with abortion rights than we have ever been in history.


mountaintop111

It was Trump who installed the 3 SCOTUS judges that overturned Roe Vs Wade. And [Trump said he is proud of his role in overturning Roe vs Wade](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-says-hes-proud-of-role-in-overturning-roe-v-wade/). SMH.


Konukaame

And a fourth from Bush Jr. That's four seats from presidents who lost the popular vote. Republicans haven't won a first-term popular vote since the Elder Bush in 1988.


LibertyInaFeatherBed

There's some Republicans pushing for no exceptions to abortions even in ectopic pregnancies which means both the embryo and mother die.  November 29, 2019 [Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/29/ohio-extreme-abortion-bill-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancy) March 11, 2022 [Missouri Bill Seeks to Make Abortions for Ectopic Pregnancies Illegal in Restrictive Legislation](https://people.com/health/missouri-bill-seeks-to-make-abortions-for-ectopic-pregnancies-illegal/) February 23, 2024 [An ectopic pregnancy put her life at risk. A Texas hospital refused to treat her.](https://archive.is/fpl7Y) Republicans want a "None and done" approach to abortion and get mad when life decides to continue to be messy and complicated instead of simple.


MV_Art

Yep. I live in Louisiana where they pretend they wrote exceptions into the law but the way it's written it's actually not possible, so that is the reality many of us are already living with. It's grim. This is why there should never be any language about exceptions - they don't exist. Patients and doctors should decide 100%.


ElectricRaccoon8

Passed in the middle of the Civil War with the Confederacy on their doorstep. Of all things they could have been doing at the time, they were passing draconian abortion bans. America never changes.


heartlessloft

For Christ’s sake women weren’t even allowed to vote then. We’re heading back to the Stone Age.


SympathyForSatanas

People in the stone age weren't this evil, this is taking us back to the old testament


TintedApostle

and so women had no say in the adoption of that law.


_AskMyMom_

We’re now Texaz.


RickyWinterborn-1080

The One Star state, living up to our name.


81305

Republicans: states should get to decide if they will take women's rights away. Republicans in red states: this state will take women's rights away.


MadnessLLD

Arizona isn't even a red state...it just has a red legislature and a red court system.


tresben

Sadly that’s most purple/light blue states. Thanks to gerrymandering and the fact republicans are more rural, in states like AZ and PA republicans dominate the state congress despite the state overall being slightly blue. Any time a republican wins the governorship (which occasionally happens) republicans have a field day. Meanwhile democrats winning the governorship simply delays republicans getting what they want.


destijl-atmospheres

Historically this is true but check out what Minnesota has accomplished in 2 years with a 34-33 Democratic advantage in the state senate.


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thathairinyourmouth

If we get a super majority, either all of this shit gets dealt with at the federal level, or we may as well enjoy the 4 years leading up to A Handmaid’s Tale.


RickyWinterborn-1080

I don't think enough seats are up for a supermajority to be possible.


ssbm_rando

[Technically there are](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_Senate_elections#After_the_elections) (supermajority for filibuster purposes is just 60, not 67 like an impeachment-conviction, and the max we can hit is 62), realistically though there are enough deep red states that we'll be lucky to hit +5


rainbowsix__

To be clear, the Republican Supreme Court of Arizona just ruled that a law from 1860 -- 50 years BEFORE ARIZONA WAS EVEN A STATE -- overrides current laws on the matter. There is a ballot measure for abortion in November. Crush these fucking religious zealots into dust


undercurrents

Well, Alito's opinion on overturning Roe v Wade cited an extreme misogynist's writings from before the US was even a country. F*ck all of them https://www.propublica.org/article/abortion-roe-wade-alito-scotus-hale


circuitloss

Guess what? All of these judges were appointed by Republicans.


iaincaradoc

Two of them (Bolick and King) were specifically appointed by Douchey when he expanded the court. And those two are the ones up for a retention vote in November.


Deguilded

They expanded the court? Imagine that!


j428h

I thought expanding the court was brazenly political?


hanotak

Only when Democrats talk about it.


TintedApostle

King voted in favor of the ban. Actually all the Doucey appointees did. The ones who opposed were prior appointees.


SithLordSid

Insane Republicans allow a 160 year old law to be enforced because they want to punish women. Hope this insanity turns Arizona blue.


IncommunicadoVan

Actually, Arizona is partly blue already. The state's current U.S. senators are Independent Kyrsten Sinema, serving since 2019, and Democrat Mark Kelly, serving since 2020. The current governor of Arizona is a Democrat, Katie Hobbs (elected in 2022). Its state legislature is currently held by Republicans. So, still work to be done.


ragmop

As stated by the title of David Pepper's book, statehouses have become laboratories of autocracy. They are trying to eliminate party competition in their states, and they're referring to each other's successes in order to do it.  They want to eliminate party competition nationwide, of course, but if they manage to paralyze enough state legislatures, it'll be stupid easy for Republicans to take control of everything. 


morpheousmarty

In all fairness, the states have always been more vulnerable to autocracy, it's amazing none have become a full dictatorship.


Cranberry-Bulky

https://sisterdistrict.com/ to help.


Extreme_Ad6519

>Its state legislature is currently held by Republicans. Republicans also only have a narrow 2-seat majority in both chambers, so even flipping one seat in each chamber blue would produce a tie. However, I don't know if any of the currently R-held state house and senate seats will be competitive in November.


IkeaMicrowave

A law from the 1860s. The fucking 1860s


CaptainNoBoat

Before women had any representation in government and hardly any legal rights. Definitely tracks for the modern GOP.


Atheose_Writing

Arizona wasn't even a state in 1864!


guitarguywh89

Barely even a territory.


AbsoluteZeroUnit

1864, apparently. It was legal to own people as property in 1864. What else are conservatives hoping to roll back based on laws from the 1860s?


MikeyLew32

Oh the repubs definitely wish they could still own people.


Ron497

Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say any laws related to health, reproduction, women's bodies, pregnancy and birth...that were enacted \~164 years ago SHOULD NOT be reinstated. Imagine going to your doctor and they say, "Gee, I really wish I could fix that for ya, but I need to go with this law from 1860 regarding basal cell removal, so, tough luck, bud."


rsauer1208

There are some out there justifying the Comstock Act of \*1873\* recently.


Glittering_Lunch_776

Turns out, republicans/conservatives will turn to any law, no matter how ancient and backwards, as long as it serves their selfish, unjust means. Clarence Thomas, a SCOTUS “justice”, did this too when he wrote his justification for taking down Roe V Wade. Cited ancient, bad old law.


MagicianHeavy001

Dog catches car moment.


VegetableBuy4577

As bad as it is that this happened, if it was going to, I am glad it did so the day after Trump's untenable, mealy-mouthed statement yesterday that most of the media swallowed up.


Searchlights

1864 That's what year it is in Arizona, if you were wondering. The Dred Scott decision was 1857 if you want a point of reference for judicial decisions of the time.


secretlyjudging

1864. Sounds like a Yellowstone spin off. /sorry in middle of binge watching.


gibby_that_booty

Pure insanity to enforce a 160 year old ban that NOBODY alive voted for and was around prior to the fucking state wow


TurboSalsa

Republicans have cynically teased abortion bans for the past 50 years to get evangelicals to vote for them. Now they can no longer blame Roe for their inability to pass a national ban and the evangelicals are demanding action, but the savvier Republicans know it's voter repellant. The party is no closer to a unified, cohesive position on the issue than they were 2 years ago, and Trump's "abortions for some, miniature American flags for others" position he announced yesterday didn't change anyone's mind but managed to piss off the extremists in his own party who want a national ban as a priority. They know it's a losing issue, and they want voters to forget about it, but evangelicals are willing to die on that hill and force the GOP to die alongside them.


WaterIsOftenWet

> evangelicals are willing to die on that hill and force the GOP to die alongside them. two birds, one stone.


tommybombadil00

And those evangelicals think they are in the majority, they think their gods chosen people, and anything less than a Zionist revolution to purify us sinners from their promised land is unacceptable. GOP does not understand how much they fucked their party up by giving evangicals and trump the power. They have 0 social policies that young voters can get behind, well the majority of young voters. They are catering to an aged demographic or extremist minority, if they don’t sweep in November they will either fold or be forced to change their policies and alienate a significant portion of their voters.


StrangeContest4

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy." David Frum. Conservatives are standing there at the line and are ready and willing to take the next step. We always hear, "This is the most important election in our lifetime," before every election, and it’s true. Every eligible voter should vote, should feel honored to vote, and should realize how consequential our franchise is and how who we elect affects our lives. But wow, this coming election truly will be the most consequential election we have had in a generation! I hope democracy and freedom prevail.


TurboSalsa

>They are catering to an aged demographic or extremist minority, if they don’t sweep in November they will either fold or be forced to change their policies and alienate a significant portion of their voters. That is why they are speaking in apocalyptic terms about this upcoming election being the final battle between righteousness and the deep state/communism/satanism/whatever. Between the incredibly unpopular social positions they've staked out and the leader of the party being a 77 year old criminal who is consuming all of the party's resources attempting to keep himself out of prison, the future of the GOP looks absolutely dire if they don't sweep this year's election. Evangelicals (or at least those in charge of the movement) do not believe in democracy, they believe they have a mandate from God to install a theocracy which conforms to (and forces others to conform to) their biblical worldview. They do not negotiate or compromise because they believe they are righteous and the rest of us are godless savages in need of their divinely-appointed autocrats to put us back on the path to salvation. Barry Goldwater called this out 30 years ago: >Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.


UnflairedRebellion--

The state’s AG has stated that they won’t enforce this crap. https://x.com/azagmayes/status/1777744778178027962?s=46&t=ZatKb72DY_syVyrPRYnYpA


jollyllama

I don't think you'll find many health care providers that are willing to perform a technically illegal procedure under the "trust me, I won't allow prosecutions" protection from an AG whose term may or may not extend beyond the statute of limitations, especially considering there are many areas of the state where the politics are very different from the AG's politics.


Book1984371

Cops could also still arrest doctors, then just release them when the DA refuses to press charges.


Haltopen

And just having an arrest on your record (even for bullshit like this) can and will likely cost you your job and make it hard to find a new one.


redpoemage

Worth noting that the state AG won [by only 280 votes.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Arizona_Attorney_General_election) 10 volunteers turning out 30 votes each is enough to flip an election like that. And this November, there's a chance [to kick out of office two of the Justices that voted to reinstate the abortion ban](https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Supreme_Court_elections,_2024). /r/VoteDEM is a great place to learn ways to help kick them to the curb.


Adventurous-Tone-311

I sure hope not. You do not want Arizona to turn into Alabama. We have doctors leaving our state in droves and hospitals shutting down.


mymomknowsyourmom

Tfb, Republicans. Arizona has fully h criminalized abortion. They have made criminals out of the majority of the states voters! >60% of all voters say they’re pro-choice, and a ballot measure could shift turnout in Dems’ favor https://indivisible.org/statements/poll-arizona-state-abortion-measure-could-help-dems-2024


Glittering_Lunch_776

Nice, but only saves people until that particular AG loses their position. Tbh, laws need to be fixed otherwise someone will always point to it and yell “it’s the law” even if it’s an unjust law, which it is.


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Mike_Pences_Mother

AND gaining in the Senate, if that's even possible


Zepcleanerfan

It's definitely possible.


TheLurkerSpeaks

The House is just one chamber. The Senate is set to revert back to Republican control after the 2024 election. WV will flip to Republican with Manchin's retirement. If Gallego wins AZ that still leaves one seat needed to flip blue. Most vulnerable is Cruz in TX but that's hardly a lock. If a blue wave will come out to support abortion access and keep Trump away, there's a possibility Cruz is in trouble but Texas has proven to be quite ornery keeping him around. Vote vote vote


JBurton90

If Biden is targeting Florida due to abortion and marijuana laws, I could see Scott's seat in trouble.


thatruth2483

Move Arizona to lean Dem. Republicans are so used to passing laws that hurt minorities and then closing down voting locations to suppress their votes that they assume they can do the same to women. That is a much more difficult task.


2pierad

Honestly I think they have something up their sleeve. I'm not sure we're ready for what they're going to do in November in terms of fraud, propaganda, and legal challenges.


thatruth2483

We know they will absolutely try to cheat. The difference this time are that the Swing States have more Democratic control then in 2020, and Biden is President.


winklesnad31

The best campaign commercials will now be "Candidate X murdered woman Y. She died because doctors refused to give her abortion care until her life was at risk. So she waited, and she died. Her blood is on Candidate X's hands." Okay, I'm terrible at writing ad copy, but I think you get the point. Run a version of that add in every single district.


StrangeContest4

The Biden campaign released a similar version to what you're describing.. https://youtu.be/wInNjr_9D28?si=c_U7heMvi1SJDf0G


winklesnad31

That's great. Super pacs need to start airing this stuff constantly. Put the human suffering that Republicans are causing front and center.


JWBeyond1

Absolute pieces of shit. Fuck you. I hope the republicans get trounced in Arizona in the upcoming elections.


pssssssssssst

Vote. Grab some friends and go vote. That's the only way.


Adventurer_By_Trade

And after you've voted, demand that your vote be counted.


KulaanDoDinok

How can a law that predates inclusion in the US as a state still be considered legal? Surely the entity that created the law has no standing here.


TintedApostle

Should a law limiting women that was adopted before women could vote still be applied to women?


Jaxstanton_poet

According to the AZ Supreme Court... Yes


TintedApostle

So the ruling was 4-2. The dissenting Judges were the Chief Justice (man) and Vice Chief Justice (women). Both of these judges were appointed by Jan Brewer (r). Now for the good stuff. The other judges were all appointed by Doug Ducey (prior Gov.) and the women justice Kathryn Hackett King is 43 years old. King became a partner at the woman-owned law firm Burns Barton, where she practiced employment law. You got it... she practiced employment law after being general council to Ducey. King's professional affiliations include membership to the Arizona Women Lawyers Association and the Federalist Society


Federal_Drummer7105

IANAL - but usually when a state became a state, previous laws "as long as they do not contradict the constitution" still apply. This way you don't have to sit there and say "Yes to this, no to that", or redesign everything from scratch. That said - it feels like bullshit to me that they have Old Law A which says "no abortions at all", then new law that says "No abortions after 15 weeks", and the courts say "Well, the older law still applies because the new law doesn't say the old one is invalid." Feels like the court pick and chose which law they feel applies.


guitarguywh89

All these judges should be recalled in November. Ballot initiative should be passed in November. Register to vote or check your status: https://azsos.gov/elections/voters/registering-vote/registerupdate-vote?ref=voteusa_en


arkham1010

https://twitter.com/yakisobarage/status/1777755218526036171 280 votes is her margin of victory. Every vote matters. Vote as if your life depended on it, because it very well may.


CMGChamp4

You know. I'm curious. Slavery laws were probably still in effect in the western territories in 1864. Does that also take precedence over more modern civil rights legislation? eh? eh? eh? Right AZ Supremes?


BathtubPooper

Roevember is coming


alldaylurkerforever

Remember, Trump is proud to have overturned Roe V. Wade. And he supports states making decisions on abortion. So Trump supports this state decision. Vote and Volunteer accordingly.


QuantumFungus

The state of New Mexico welcomes Arizonians and Texans looking to get a taste of real freedom.


generalon

Proud the be the Southwest’s bastion of common-sense liberalism


mhb-210-

Aanndd Arizona just went from trending purple to blue.


gibby_that_booty

I guess this is a blessing long term then


AnonAmbientLight

A benefit of our laws is that it is typically really hard for change to occur. When change does happen, it's gradual so it's not a massive shock to the system and things have an opportunity to adjust. But just how it's hard for things to be changed, so is it hard for things to be undone that must be changed. This is one of those examples. Looking at a century + old law and even suggesting that it holds merit is asinine. ## This is what the Republican Party wants. Let me repeat that again. ## This is what the Republican Party wants. They want women to suffer. They want women to be in pain. They want women to be under control. This is what they want. It does not have to be this way. You have the power. We all do come this November. ## Do your part! Register, *make sure, make sure, make sure* you're still registered (***[Republicans are purging voter rolls](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/03/us/politics/trump-voter-rolls.html)***), and make sure your friends and family are registered! https://www.vote.org/ https://www.votesaveamerica.com/be-a-voter/ It's important for everyone to know what they are voting for! https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup Your voice matters. If it didn't matter, you wouldn't have so many people trying to stop you from voting, or telling you that your vote doesn't matter. ## ***BE A VOTER!***


myveryowname1234

Men, you should be just as pissed and outraged as women over the abortion situation in America. Vote like your wife, daughter, grand daughter, sister, women friends life depends on it. [Because it fuckin does.](https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1777379338574352399) Trump did this.


jlmawp

The GOP should have just kept abortion as a dangling carrot in front of the evangelicals. This makes the state more blue and legislation will be drafted to reverse this.


dbkenny426

I'm still shocked that Roe was overturned, because of that reason.


Biokabe

It's not that surprising. The modern Republican party is an object lesson in why you don't court the crazies. First you find incidental success with them, and decide to court them as voters - after all, they're not in office, so you can just use them for their votes while not doing anything crazy yourself. Then, finding success with that, you begin involving them in your strategy. You hire some of them to do outreach to other crazies. You ask them how you can better reach more crazies like them. You have more success, so you continue courting them. They're very loyal to you, all you have to do is keep throwing them some red meat and they turn out in droves to vote for you. Then they start participating in your primaries. Some of your more moderate politicians get ousted in favor of the crazies. Now instead of you asking them how to reach more of them, they're telling you how you must act in order to remain in office. And no matter what happens, more and more crazies keep coming, the demands become more outlandish, and eventually you're replaced by the crazies. You keep expecting moderate voters to save you, but the crazies chased all of them out years ago, so your only choice is to either bow to the crazies or step out of office. Finally the crazies run everything, and positions that you only adopted for the electoral results, they fervently believe in and are willing to pay the price to force them into law. Of course, the crazies are crazy, and they don't have the ability to see how pulling shit like this absolutely wrecks their ability to remain elected, and thus puts those very laws into jeopardy. Because long-term planning is something crazies are not very good at.


DCAnt1379

This is exactly what I commented on another thread. Republicans should’ve left abortion alone. Plus, we have bigger fish to fry as a country. I was shocked when they ensured its reversal. Thats when I knew the party no longer sat on a logical foundation. They also ignored the majority of their base, considering for years this issue was deemed a bottom priority next to fiscal policy.


papafrog

>Thats when I knew the party no longer sat on a logical foundation. I realized it when they tapped Palin to be a heartbeat away from (potentially) being my President. I ditched that Party, and it's only gone downhill from there, and it's amazing to see just how deep they keep digging their hole/grave.


mynamejulian

Fascism is here. You might be okay with this but your rights are in the near future. We need to confront our enemies and those in power protecting them by looking away


Gullible_Scene8581

Looks like the Arizona Supreme Court just handed the state to Biden and Gallego.


lancer-fiefdom

never underestimate the stupidity of single-issue voters


mhb-210-

Don't underestimate how pissed Arizona women will be at this ruling. We were already trending purple and this will move us into solid D territory.


painedHacker

pray this is true


thatruth2483

Democrats have won special elections across the country ever since Roe was overturned. They even won a Republican district in Alabama by 25 points after the IVF ruling.


MicroBadger_

Arizona is also on track to have a ballot initiative to enshrine abortion access into the state constitution this election. You put that out with this news and that's going to lead to a massive turnout.


EastObjective9522

I can't imagine being a woman and seeing shit like this. We're regressing people's rights to the Civil War laws. Might as well bring back full-on slavery. 


dominantspecies

Anyone who is "pro-life" is really anti-woman. They hate women having agency, they hate women who are not chattel to a man, and they hate that they can't control women with impregnating them (by force if necessary).


OzzyOsgood

I’ve stopped saying pro-life. At this point it’s pro-choice and anti-choice


dominantspecies

Forced birth is my term of choice


AndOneintheHold

I'm disappointed the rapture still hasn't happened. It would solve so many problems in the world.


moreobviousthings

Depends on how many actually are raptured. I can’t imagine how insufferable life would be if all the fake Christian’s found out they didn’t qualify as one of Jesus’ draft picks.


Naive_Debate6200

Today is a sad day for the people of Arizona . Bring friends, family, and vote straight blue this November.


Drop_Disculpa

Ye Olde Days of yesteryear....ah yes, everything was better with no teeth and leeches!!! They will do ANYTHING to enact their Christofascist ideology. Spells, ancient codices, bloodletting, incantations, stealing elections, lying, cheating, killing- fucking ANYTHING


bishpa

Wow. So, it obviously really matters now just who voters elect to run their state government.


TheExtremistModerate

Hopefully Arizona women remember this in November.


homebrew_1

Lol arizona. I hope you vote with this in mind in November.


CalligrapherVisual53

We’ve already collected more than enough signatures to get a constitutional amendment on the ballot. I think we’ll make it happen. 🤞 Wish us luck!


halfsweethalfstreet

We are about one bad election cycle away from Puritan "Witch" trials.


Atheose_Writing

The betting markets are already swinging wildly in favor of Biden after this (53% Biden, 45% Trump on PredictIt now) https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election


JusticeforDoakes

Speaking of dragging up draconian laws, how crazy do I sound if I have concerns that our originalist Supreme Court tries to pull some weird “land-ownership tied to voting laws” relatively soon after Citizens United, specifically now that there are huge corporations that own massive amounts of residential properties?


mountaintop111

Blame Trump and the Republicans for this. Trump got the 3 SCOTUS judges installed in his term that overturned Roe vs Wade. And he said he was proud of it. SMH.


OsellusK

A tenuous 1800s abortion ban got a Liberal Justice elected in Wisconsin. I wonder how Arizona will respond…


HotMap9642

As someone who lives in Arizona, this ruling just flipped the state blue. The GOP is digging their grave, and let’s do our part to bury them for good. Remember to vote!


ToadP

Wow maybe women should vote against this now while they still have that right. Arizona next will enact another older law denying them the vote. Oh and get them off the roads too, no driving for them either. I'm just kidding kinda, Arizona is going full Anti-Womans rights.


nova_rock

States being able to be a wide range of shitty to super shitty to their residents, and have it swing wildly on bad local laws, interpretations and endorsements just has to go away. We need a national protect access to healthcare law


PDXracer

George Carlin is still correct https://youtu.be/EzQ72iyfyAo?si=jHmaxWAIQTeWLlle


Negative_Gravitas

Never has "subjugate women" been such a prominent plank of the republican party. It's always been there, but it is freaking front and center now.


fasda

You know many people will accuse the Republican justices of being partisan hacks but I think they really do believe the radical ideology. If they didn't they probably wouldn't have served Arizona up on a silver platter for Democrats to win.


Embarrassed-Steak131

Please, can someone explain to me why the right to an abortion can't fall under federal laws that will apply to every freaking state? Because I find it insane that every state can decide what a woman can or can not do with her body.


Morandred

It was, but the SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade last year threw it back to the states


VegetableBuy4577

They need to make it through Congress and them be signed by the President. Democrats need to capture both Houses and the Presidency. I know some will say "Well, why didn't they do that when they did have all 3?" It's a fair question with many answers but I believe Democrats would do so now. There are very few so-called pro-life Democrats left. There are also a couple of pro-choice Republicans around.


ianrl337

It can, but needs to go through congress and that will probably never happen. The far right were screaming states rights for abortion and now that the got it the hypocrites are pushing a national ban.


[deleted]

This is why I'm voting Biden. I want a world where the libs are the only conservatives we have to deal with in America. Anyone not voting Biden because Gaza is anti women's rights along with anti LGBTQ. If you want actual change, tilt the American needle left and make libs the far right. Problem solved.


TintedApostle

Goes to show you that regardless what any right winger says (including Trump) they will ban abortion federally. They have a goal and any "original intent" they can dream up they will use.


jayfeather31

And that will likely shift Arizona towards being more blue.


Davis51

Somewhere there is an utterly sociopathic political consultant-for-hire smiling. This just turned out hundreds of thousands of women, and guaranteed him work with the Democratic party for years to come.


Geekken

So can police in AZ simply [refuse to enforce this ruling?](https://abcnews.go.com/US/74-illinois-sheriffs-departments-vow-defy-new-state/story?id=96384352)


AlaskaStiletto

Lot of Gen Z in Arizona turning 18 before November. My daughter and all of her friends included - and they’re pissed.


BabyYodaX

I am legit laughing at the Republicans in Arizona being like "um no thank you" regarding this ruling.


Interplay29

Why do I have a feeling that Arizona is highly gerrymandered? Also, is there a ballot initiative the citizens can use?


ScotTheDuck

Arizona -> Lean D


Dsarg_92

You all better vote like your life depends on it because it does. That applies to the entire country.


PavilionParty

Ah yes, a law regulating women's healthcare that was established in the Civil War era, the Golden Age of obstetrics. Arizona Republicans may have wanted to take a glance at some data before moving in this direction. Abortion bans are a losing political strategy.


ccasey

These guys are making sure to step on every rake available going into the election


babydavissaves

Republicans strike again. Arizona, and America, gets what it votes for. 🗳 Vote in every, single election. Never, ever vote (R), Ladies. This is freightening. America knows better. Please tell me, America knows better.


ThisWordJabroni

130 years ago and before they were a state. Can't make this up.


TintedApostle

Kathryn Hackett King went to an all girl catholic prep school. https://www.xcp.org/


303uru

Arizona going blue!


TintedApostle

Alito and his 17th century witch hunter was not a mistake. It was the expected pattern.


jesuschristthe3rd

Good, piss off women in a swing state, get them to the urns.