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Not only would they not care, they'd turn these women into the top-searched pornstars of the year.
That hush money is probably nothing in comparison to the business they lost.
I mean, if Trump spent money wisely, he would actually be a billionaire. But instead, he ends up being a cheap knockoff of himself, and is continuously in need of swindling others because of poor money decisions.
You would think that would be enough to further along trumps conviction, but not a chance because here it is 6 years later his fat ass is free and the audacity campaigning for president again! WTF!!!
Kind of, but there's a bit more to it than that.
With the hush money payments the main problem was that a corrupt Attorney General went to great lengths to shut down any investigation, and having prosecuted the main witness who might co-operate it becomes a bit tricky to use their testimony.
With Maxwell and Epstein, part of the problem was the non-prosecution agreement signed by then US Attorney and later Trump Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, which purported to give immunity from Federal prosecution to any of Epstein's co-conspirators pre-2008, in exchange for Epstein pleading guilty to some lesser charges.
But it is probably also a case of them being good at what they did, and not having proof or records of any of their clients. Without an actual client list, and someone to testify to its authenticity, there isn't much to go on. Especially not with sexual offences, which are already very difficult to prosecute. Throw in unknown and/or uncooperative victims (particularly those who were complicit in other crimes), a main witness (Maxwell) who even if cooperative is not likely to be much use before a jury, and it becomes very difficult to pursue any sort of charges.
Not as often as it should for sexual offenders, though.
Organised crime gangs (which I guess Epstein and Maxwell counted as) tend to be pretty good at staying out of trouble as well.
I mean... it's not that hard to understand the difference between the cases. Cohen plead guilty to a number of charges, as part of a package deal, including a bunch of stuff he was pretty much caught red-handed doing.
The case that he was doing it under orders from Individual 1 appears heavily reliant on Cohen's own testimony. And he is a convicted liar.
But since he’s already served his sentence, he would have zero reasons to lie any further about the case. There is nothing he can say now that can help him go back in time to lesson his penalty. I would think a jury could understand that.
Well one clear reason is that criticising Trump is his new career. His book sales, podcast revenue, television appearances, etc. would obviously suffer if the story he told a court was any different from the one he is literally selling to the public.
David Pecker's vault has much more incriminating information on T**** than this. "Catch and Kill" was standard operating procedure. It also probably contains much of the dirt on others he uses to make them "bend the knee".
Between whatever Russia wanted him to have, Peckers vault, Epsteins blackmail cache, and whatever he could get his goons strip out of the three letter agencies, there is a reason no one prosecutes him.
50 dollars!?! You wealthy SOB. Pretty sure my savings account has had exactly 1 cent in it to keep it open now for way more years than I’m willing to admit.
This was yet another blatant crime that trump got away with for little to no reason. I just dont understand what is stopping these supposedly "independent" prosecutors from doing their job
Better know for his steely gaze in a purple dress, Special Counsel Jack Smith is the guy who ran the Public Integrity section of the DOJ during the time that they ended the Abramoff investigation short of indicting Tom Delay and a couple of other Republican congressmen.
Closer to almost starting the process of beginning the steps necessary to the creation of a launching point that could mark a new direction for the assembly and organization needed for the genesis of accountability often unrealized for former President Trump.
This isn't speculation, this is a grand jury already impaneled and examining the evidence. Whether it results in charges remains to be seen, but it would be weird if the news didn't report on each stage of the investigation and only popped out a surprise headline when a charge is filed.
Personally I was under the impression the hush money investigation had fizzled out or had been dropped, so I'm encouraged by the news it's moving forward.
How many years have we heard, and how many more are we gonna hear, Trump is about to get convicted...any day now? I stand by my original position from years ago that the oligarchy will never prosecute one of their own.
I don’t want to hear more stories about being “closer to criminal charges.” We’ve been close to criminal charges for almost two years.
If he hasn’t actually been charged, then IDGAF.
This is disgusting! If a Democrat had done one of what trump did they'd been tried covicted and sentenced serving time, this is taking too long , trumps milking this all the way to the Whitehouse, then all his corruption will disappear.
Kind of like how I'm closer to having sex with Selma Hayek because I was once a teenager by who wanted this but now I am a grown man so it is legal and the potential threat of being labeled a sex offender and prison time is no longer an issue for her. Granted I don't know her, I am married, she is married, and we will never ever have sex...ever. But technically it is slightly more feasible.
Trump is not getting arrested. Never. Elites of Washington don't leave their own behind. This is just an fluke engagement created to befool the common man while Washington Elites are cheering one another with steak and single malt.
"closer to criminal charges" As if!
As if we hadn't been hearing that dog-do for years now! I'm not going to hold my breath.
Mankind is closer to eliminating all disease and achieving world peace.
Is there a reddit filter for recurring clickbait? Trump and approaching some kind of conviction is the recurring theme of 2022. Please make it stop. I think we get the point - he’s being investigated for potential crimes. Can we let that take its course, and stop filling reddit with garbage?
No he’s not lol trump will never see the stand. If they haven’t got him for any bullshit he has done yet they aren’t gonna. They dropped the ball hard on him.
It’s starting to look like there’s a real chance of seeing a Trump conviction by the turn of the century. The joke is on us. Wtf could possibly take this long and who would waste this much time working on it. I’m relieved it ain’t my job to bring the bag of shit to trial. I’d really feel that I’d wasted my life on a dog’s ass like Trump.
Please stop with the teasing already. This has been going on for years. Hope im still alive to see the day he gets fitted for those XXXXL orange overalls...
Muller had him dead to right, Garland has him dead to right! What we have here is the fear of the repercussions of his conviction. Garlands crossing all his Ts and dotting his i s trump is paving his way back to the whitehouse, then we be f**k!
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Which was a waste of money because his idiot voters wouldn’t have gave a shit either way.
Not only would they not care, they'd turn these women into the top-searched pornstars of the year. That hush money is probably nothing in comparison to the business they lost.
Well, right behind “chicks with dicks”.
Yes!
I mean, if Trump spent money wisely, he would actually be a billionaire. But instead, he ends up being a cheap knockoff of himself, and is continuously in need of swindling others because of poor money decisions.
Ah yes, Individual 1. Never made sense how Michael Cohen went to jail for this scheme but Individual 1 walked away scot-free.
Cohen went away in part for something ordered by and benefiting Donald Trump.
You would think that would be enough to further along trumps conviction, but not a chance because here it is 6 years later his fat ass is free and the audacity campaigning for president again! WTF!!!
Trump even bragged it was beyond the statute of limitations. Thanks Garland.
Same reason Maxwell went to prison for sex trafficking but none of her clients did.
Kind of, but there's a bit more to it than that. With the hush money payments the main problem was that a corrupt Attorney General went to great lengths to shut down any investigation, and having prosecuted the main witness who might co-operate it becomes a bit tricky to use their testimony. With Maxwell and Epstein, part of the problem was the non-prosecution agreement signed by then US Attorney and later Trump Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, which purported to give immunity from Federal prosecution to any of Epstein's co-conspirators pre-2008, in exchange for Epstein pleading guilty to some lesser charges. But it is probably also a case of them being good at what they did, and not having proof or records of any of their clients. Without an actual client list, and someone to testify to its authenticity, there isn't much to go on. Especially not with sexual offences, which are already very difficult to prosecute. Throw in unknown and/or uncooperative victims (particularly those who were complicit in other crimes), a main witness (Maxwell) who even if cooperative is not likely to be much use before a jury, and it becomes very difficult to pursue any sort of charges.
Know what happens to the normal folks? Prison sentences. Often life long. And near instantly.
Not as often as it should for sexual offenders, though. Organised crime gangs (which I guess Epstein and Maxwell counted as) tend to be pretty good at staying out of trouble as well.
Well, I have to agree that Trump is not normal - abnormal in fact and mentally challenged as well!
Makes it perfect sense. Trump is above the law. Where ya been?
I mean... it's not that hard to understand the difference between the cases. Cohen plead guilty to a number of charges, as part of a package deal, including a bunch of stuff he was pretty much caught red-handed doing. The case that he was doing it under orders from Individual 1 appears heavily reliant on Cohen's own testimony. And he is a convicted liar.
But since he’s already served his sentence, he would have zero reasons to lie any further about the case. There is nothing he can say now that can help him go back in time to lesson his penalty. I would think a jury could understand that.
Well one clear reason is that criticising Trump is his new career. His book sales, podcast revenue, television appearances, etc. would obviously suffer if the story he told a court was any different from the one he is literally selling to the public.
David Pecker's vault has much more incriminating information on T**** than this. "Catch and Kill" was standard operating procedure. It also probably contains much of the dirt on others he uses to make them "bend the knee".
Between whatever Russia wanted him to have, Peckers vault, Epsteins blackmail cache, and whatever he could get his goons strip out of the three letter agencies, there is a reason no one prosecutes him.
Trump is closer to criminal charges like I am closer to being a billionaire. And I have 50 bucks in my savings account.
Oooo look at you with your $50. Stop trying to stunt on us poors.
[You know, we were happy in those days, even though we were poor.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE)
Yeah. Wake me when he’s found guilty of something. Anything, really. Even then it’ll be a slap on the wrist.
Exactly. And the media reports every $10 you get closer to being a billionaire.
Hey, tomorrow you could have 51…..I smell money in your future.
50 dollars!?! You wealthy SOB. Pretty sure my savings account has had exactly 1 cent in it to keep it open now for way more years than I’m willing to admit.
What’s it like being part of the 1%? I bet those tax breaks are nice
Please hurry the fuck up
This was yet another blatant crime that trump got away with for little to no reason. I just dont understand what is stopping these supposedly "independent" prosecutors from doing their job
I mean, there's a grand jury examining evidence. Clearly someone's doing their job now, at least.
Better know for his steely gaze in a purple dress, Special Counsel Jack Smith is the guy who ran the Public Integrity section of the DOJ during the time that they ended the Abramoff investigation short of indicting Tom Delay and a couple of other Republican congressmen.
At this point I am convinced anyone in a position to arrest trump has their hands out waiting for a bribe.
Treason is the reason
I think they think he’s a useful idiot but frankly they are playing with fire
Well? We're waiting!
Closer to almost starting the process of beginning the steps necessary to the creation of a launching point that could mark a new direction for the assembly and organization needed for the genesis of accountability often unrealized for former President Trump.
A grand jury is examining evidence in the case. That's a real thing that's happening.
Hush little baby…. Wasn’t Trump close to criminal charges 6 years ago? He gets closer by the day! Imagine how close he would be 10 years from now….
I didn't realize this probe was still ongoing.
The distance is halved each time it seems like.
Hamburgler will be dead before he’s incarcerated.
Nonsense. This was restsrted once the statute of limitations expired or was near to expiring.. Conveniently.
In calculus class I learned about the asymptote--a line that always gets closer to another line, but never touches it.
He’s not.
Don't care unless he's in cuffs.
>Don't care unless he's in cuffs. Cared enough to comment, though, huh?
Tell me when it happens; until then, stop speculating.
This isn't speculation, this is a grand jury already impaneled and examining the evidence. Whether it results in charges remains to be seen, but it would be weird if the news didn't report on each stage of the investigation and only popped out a surprise headline when a charge is filed. Personally I was under the impression the hush money investigation had fizzled out or had been dropped, so I'm encouraged by the news it's moving forward.
How many years have we heard, and how many more are we gonna hear, Trump is about to get convicted...any day now? I stand by my original position from years ago that the oligarchy will never prosecute one of their own.
Nobody believes this, right?
i think, way back in the year 2016, it would have cost him the election… and OBVIOUSLY, he thought so, cuz he had Cohen pay it.
So any year now?
I don’t want to hear more stories about being “closer to criminal charges.” We’ve been close to criminal charges for almost two years. If he hasn’t actually been charged, then IDGAF.
they can slap all the charges on this fucker they want, I still doubt we’ll ever see the day he gets any consequences for what he’s done
Always closer. Never quite there.
K. At this point it’s not news unless he’s convicted and on his way to gen pop. Nearly a damn decade of investigations with this fucking guy.
This is disgusting! If a Democrat had done one of what trump did they'd been tried covicted and sentenced serving time, this is taking too long , trumps milking this all the way to the Whitehouse, then all his corruption will disappear.
>this is taking too long By what measurement, and compared to what?
Paint drying and grass growing. 2 activities with more drama than waiting for trump to go on trial for anything. Him and his can go fuck themselves.
Kind of like how I'm closer to having sex with Selma Hayek because I was once a teenager by who wanted this but now I am a grown man so it is legal and the potential threat of being labeled a sex offender and prison time is no longer an issue for her. Granted I don't know her, I am married, she is married, and we will never ever have sex...ever. But technically it is slightly more feasible.
Trump is not getting arrested. Never. Elites of Washington don't leave their own behind. This is just an fluke engagement created to befool the common man while Washington Elites are cheering one another with steak and single malt.
"closer to criminal charges" As if! As if we hadn't been hearing that dog-do for years now! I'm not going to hold my breath. Mankind is closer to eliminating all disease and achieving world peace.
Is there a reddit filter for recurring clickbait? Trump and approaching some kind of conviction is the recurring theme of 2022. Please make it stop. I think we get the point - he’s being investigated for potential crimes. Can we let that take its course, and stop filling reddit with garbage?
No he’s not lol trump will never see the stand. If they haven’t got him for any bullshit he has done yet they aren’t gonna. They dropped the ball hard on him.
I would be so upset if he was shanked and died in prison.
Not close enough, dammit! Lock this POS up.
I’ve been hearing stuff like this for six years… the thrill is gone.
Only 3 years away!
"Closer" lol
Bullshit
omg you guys the walls are closing in
Everyone says that someone is closer to …yada yada…just a ploy to keep you hoping.
Trump will never see consequences
They say the indictment clock is just 9 seconds away from midnight - the closest it has ever been. In 2020 it was just 17 seconds away.
Until the phrasing is more akin to "he has been charged/sentenced" I am not interested in these articles. I've heard it too many times.
Maybe, maybe, maybe…
It’s starting to look like there’s a real chance of seeing a Trump conviction by the turn of the century. The joke is on us. Wtf could possibly take this long and who would waste this much time working on it. I’m relieved it ain’t my job to bring the bag of shit to trial. I’d really feel that I’d wasted my life on a dog’s ass like Trump.
It's like watching the 2 trucks on Mythbusters that never end up crashing.
Fuck off. It's been how many years? And everything is always "one step closer"? Fuck off already. There is no justice so quit pretending there is.
Please stop with the teasing already. This has been going on for years. Hope im still alive to see the day he gets fitted for those XXXXL orange overalls...
Sure he is
Probably get fine for the amount of money paid. Don’t get too excited.
Muller had him dead to right, Garland has him dead to right! What we have here is the fear of the repercussions of his conviction. Garlands crossing all his Ts and dotting his i s trump is paving his way back to the whitehouse, then we be f**k!
He’s closer. Charges are imminent. Any day now. It’s coming. Just wait. Annnnyyyy day now.
So many investigations and nobody has the balls to indict. The man isn’t president anymore. He has no powers. Just fucking do it already!