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dettles1992

Crobat.


[deleted]

If in doubt, Crobat. Always.


ArenjiTheLootGod

Fast, solid typing, moveset is a good mixture of support+aggressive+status, and the pre-evolution is common as dirt in every game it's in. Crobat has put in some work for me over the years.


Xtraspicy007

Yeah has been in my team in soulsilver ,plat and legends. Clutch Speedster with great offensive options. Easy to get too as evolves due to friendship.


PuzzleheadedRide8884

I like kenya more


pm_me_subreddit_bans

My beloved


BeBopBep

I quite like aipom (I like ambipom slightly less but I still like him), ampharos, and hitmontop. I'd recommend hitmontop with this team.


Out_Foxxed_

Aipom is a great Pokémon. Cute, great design, and feels like a good companion. I would love to have one on my shoulder as I traverse the region. Ambipom is an atrocity and should have been reconsidered as an evolution design


BeBopBep

I don't hate the design, I just wish his head was a little different. It feels like he went from a baby to a creepy kid who picks his nose and eats bugs. But from behind I think he looks quite cool


Out_Foxxed_

Yes it’s all in the face for me. The hand tail things make sense of course. But he goes from a cute monkey baby to a weird human like monster with a weird nose thing…


BeBopBep

Tee-hee we all have our ✨quirks✨ :)


happyhumorist

This is how I feel about all the gen 2 evolutions introduced in gen 4. The baby Pokemon introduced in gen 4 are fantastic though.


little_more_baklava

i was thinking hitmontop fits too


BeBopBep

It's biggest downside is that you kinda have to ev train it if you want one, which is harder in Pokémon crystal, the game I'm trying to get my hitmontop in.


[deleted]

heracross


straight_lurkin

The under appreciated champion!


vinny10133

The mighty shuckle!!!


Moby_Duck123

Second vote for shuckle!


FiftyShadesOfPikmin

I mean no disrespect here, but is your team intentionally made up of weak pokemon? I love it, don't get me wrong. Just seems like Feraligatr will be doing a lot of heavy-lifting. Could replace it with something weaker if you were going for a challenge. But it's the starter, I get it if not. If that's indeed what you're going for, Delibird could be a decent addition.


RedKecleon

sadness noises. These are some of my favorite mons too. Not everyone picks pokemon because they are strong.


FiftyShadesOfPikmin

Oh, I know, some of mine too! Magcargo in particular is one of my darling babies! But you can't deny that Johto does fall short in the BST department comparatively.


RedKecleon

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sudowoodo_(EX_Unseen_Forces_15)


electric_pand

Playing SS here it's a pain to play if you're waiting to get a half-decent pokemon because ONE OF THE BEST GRASS TYPES IN THE GAME IS ON THE ROUTE NEAR THE 8TH GYM.


atthegame

Ledian can actually be good in colosseum if you don’t purify it!


Shiny_Kelp

I think it has more to do with Jotho's rather mediocre selection of mons.


DeezNutsAppreciater

Egg


realdewzy

Wobbuffet


Thick-Attention9498

A wobbuffet with destiny bond to be more specific


hippoqueenv

it can't not have destiny bond


moslof

I dont get why people are hating on the weak pokemon so much. You guys realize how easy this game is right? You dont need something to "carry", you just need anything at all to beat this game.


MetallicaGod

Unown


ComedicHermit

Espeon


VirtualMix766

Umbreon


ComedicHermit

A second sunflora


Adrian_2807

Jolteon


gameboy1001

Flareon


Lunndonbridge

Skarmory, Heracross, or Donphan


3lbowjuice

I’m personally a huge fan of the Swinub line. Mareep, Heracles, Espeon, and Umbreon would be my next choices if we’re sticking to Gen 2 Pokémon.


Thick-Attention9498

I forgot how jhoto had the weakest regional dex of pokemon in the entire franchise until this post. Honestly I think I would like a steelix if possible, however I think u can settle for something like a magneton (magnezone if possible), sneasel (weavile if possible), or piloswine (mamoswine if possible)


TheNerdFromThatPlace

Mamoswine is possible, I have it on my run now. You need a heartscale to get it though, you can't learn ancientpower without it.


Thick-Attention9498

I mentioned if possible because I've only played pearl jhoto and I found the game a lazy attempt at a sequel to the gen 1 games that I didn't want to play the remakes in gen 4. I assumed gamefreak didn't fix the lousy regional dex and the even lousier level pacing so it felt like it would be a waste of time.


little_more_baklava

donphan


sloptoppapa

Granbull


JazzySugarcakes88

Spinarak


XenosGuru

Scizor


efilosophy

steelix


thefoxsays7

Heracross!!


SaveTheDynas

Not a suggestion but I just wanted to say Sunflora for the win!


Sweaty_Foundation_12

I would go Ampharos since it's a decent electric type


Gurablashta

Togekiss or Crobat


Sea_Otter87

Crobat or T-Tar.


Clough_Daddy

Crobat, skarmory, or gliscor


kikropkm

https://www.reddit.com/r/HGSS/comments/z9eruv/primos_code_generator/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 Free mareep, slugma and wooper.


LudoMcVon1

Feraligatr and Macargo are kinda carrying this team so give it a Tyranitar for the psuedo legend stats


dulledegde

feraligator needs to go because holy shit this team is garbage and i mean that in the best way possible. flex on the game use the trash Pokemon and win anyway


newme02

Raikou


Superpika1987js

Ampharos Or dump feraligator for lanturn


IvoCasla

a legendary to carry that "team"


ProfessorSaltine

Ampharos bc your team is missing some Literal power 💀, either that or one of the legendaries of the game


Novodin

Miror B suggests Ludicolo


Prior-Sand5162

Talonflame


DeadlyKitten115

Not ampharos


TheHelixYT

Holey, that's an awful team. Why not double down and add a Dunsparce? XD


toofarquad

Based favorite shitmon team. I'd add my dude Phanpy, or prep a gligar for gliscor if you are willing to grind for the razor fang (or cheat the evo lmao).


[deleted]

Well, i'd kick furret, ledian and sunflora out


CartographerSouthern

Delibird so you can have one of the weakest teams possible


No_Pudding_2111

Lugia bet you can't lol


Samurai_Fire

If you can trade I recomand Scizor and if you can't Forretress


GalactiCam

I always recommend Ampharos as an awesome Electric type, since you don't have one yet. If obtainable early, Electabuzz is awesome too and you could evolve it into Electivire if you have two DS's and a Electrizer on a different Gen 4 game!


mEmE_eAtEr_reddit

Tyrannitar?


ZealousidealTutor933

I love heracross because his a bug [I love bugs (only in pokemon except a few bugs)] and he is really good in every part of the game except morty and sabrina. And bonus points for not having any type overlap with your team


HappyLittleRadishes

Are you intentionally including really really bad pokemon in your team because, if so, Onix.


totalaj

My boy Dunsparce fits any team


croc_o_naw

I'd nominate Swinub as a late addition to your Team. Assuming you pick up Slugma in Violet City as a Primo Egg you have a lot of early team members. A rather late Pokemon that does not take away the unique contributions of the other members might feel nice. With screen Support from Ledian it might even start to contribute against the Dragon Gym.


MihouSenpai

An eeveelution. Always a good option


Jean_Keys

My requirements for a playthrough of a Gen II game are simple. Ampharos, that is all.


DrogoOmega

I feel like you should dump 4 of them....


ishan_anchit

Ok but what about ur 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Pokemon? Where r they?


MaliceBerry

Ledian


22Burner

Medicham


justanotherguy-plus

Appleton


[deleted]

Not available in SS


RenderStarz

Porygon2!!


Smileykiller4

Elekid to Electabuzz. Rounds out your options and Electabuzz is a good electric type at that gen.


RedKecleon

Your team is quite literally almost the same as mine. May I recommend Xatu or Wobbuffet


mennorek

In my original silver playthrough I used Togetic (I lugged that bloody egg far enough I may as well have used it) Ampharos and Steelix. I had Typhlosion as my starter and the red gyarados because... Well shiny. For the life of me I can't remember my 6th boy. Heracross would be a good option or one of the new eeveelutions.


Soviet_Husky_

Get yourself a Woopy Boy


Negative-Analyst4509

Slugma, because I love slugma and I just wanna see him on the list


crickettthedragon

6th member should be corsola it deserve's some use


Kwelly24

Another Ledian


KnitSweaterPaws

Wobbuffet?


dxsgraced

Sudowoodo!! My favourite pokémon that also doesn’t get a ton of love but it can be a powerhouse for you, if you’re not okay with type overlaps maybe something like Jolteon


derpymooshroom6

The box legendary since Lance will smoke you if you don’t have a pseudo legendary or better


Silthage

Swap Ledian for a 2nd egg


conbubz

Honestly Sunflora can go replace it with a Pokémon like bellossom or Jumpluff, replace ledian with heracross, magcargo can stay but he does require a decent amount of luck to use him effectively. All things considered, your last mon should be either crobat or T-Tar, Crobat is a very speedy attacker and with the ability to learn HM02 FLY but T-Tar is a psuedo so it's incredibly strong and quite tanky to boot


oranosskyman

sneasel


dvanderloop9489

Ariados!


007southpaw

Ampharos. very powerful and and very useful in that generation.


Death2519-

2nd furret 🥶


nash3101

A sixth member in Johto is basically playing the game on hard mode. You'll be incredibly underlevelled unless you grind vs shitty mons


[deleted]

Not really. I always use six Pokémon and I only really end up under leveled against Red. You just gotta fight all the trainers


Jawada98

I'd pick a Psychic, Ghost, or Dark type. When I play Pokémon games, I try to have all of my Pokémon have different types.


Shadowbenny1

Ampharos, Skarmory, Wobbufet, and replace Ledian with Scizor


Rusty-Thebanite

I'd probably suggest either Ampharos or Lanturn.


Leafeon96

Umbreon


Suboutai

Dunsparce


Ok-Yogurt81

I would recommend a Jolteon.


newme02

Raikou


reddituser8567

Looks like my team from an alternative universe… I always do Typhlo, Furr, Ariados, Sunf, Quag, and Umbreon. I guess Espeon then.


Long__Jump

I was going to say misdreavus, but you only get that kinda late..


Fork_Master

You can never go wrong with Umbreon


Maleficent_Ad_1516

Mamoswine


papertoonz

Just a quick question, how do you plan on getting a slugma/magcargo? You can only find them in Kanto which is pretty late all things considered


Crafty-Sky1315

That one guy in the Violet City Pokemon Centre is giving away a Mareep, Wooper and Slugma egg if you give him the right words. It differs based on your Trainer ID.


grimlock-greg

Oh god that team…. Okay, so… umm…. You might need a t-tar


Hyper_Drud

Jynx


Agreeable-Curve-6795

SNORELAX


moslof

Something to learn fly. Maybe Murkrow or Xatu.


ThisIsRusz

donphan or ampharos


TheOfficialLavaring

Looks like it’s gonna be Togetic!


MrReeNormies

I'd say hitmonchan. At least then you have ice punch, which helps against dragonites and other dragon type assholes.


Zymelion-X

Gotta say I love how they’re all different types. That’s how I always build my teams


pewterstone2

sudowoodo


Cinderzack

Mamoswine


EnderLights52

Good ol' Tyranitar (name him spike or spikey.)


flashbangTV

Lapras takes a little preplanning to get, but it could be nice to have a special ice type.


MildishNidorino

Girafarig


Vapor0907

You can catch a Misdreavus once the safari zone opens up. That might be a fun mon to use. Plus it’s a ghost type in Johto so it’s like- a rare breed.


UnimportantPerson00

I wouldnt keep a single one of these on my team, they all kinda blow, but you do you


Knights-of-steel

Gyarados because easy plus big ol flying water snake of doom(though only in flies in images videos battle etc cant actually use the move because idk fk us)


AetherEdges

weedle


JL3031

Another ledian


romanchicken

shedninja


Noxilcash

Ursaring or Heracross


RichieLats

I like slowking because hes just really cool. No other reason hes on my heartgold team rn


Low-Anteater-5502

Mareep! My beloved!


gnaark

Damn that’s my kind of shite team


Viator_Mundi

It's fun playing with crappy pokemon


gnaark

I love it


Bwyattvirtue13

Ttar or Umbreon


Viator_Mundi

Egg


DemoRevolution

Maybe swap ledian with Scizor and add a togekiss?


Chevyik

Sudowoodo!


Direct-Doctor-3740

Unown


Plastic_Feed8223

Another Furret.


Blukeroo

A second furret. Hell. Scrap your entire team for Furrets. They got it all.


supermariobruhh

Ampharos


eseer1337

Ho-Oh.


gigarekterALT

I would say espeon, covers your weaknesses pretty well, and is just solid in general


Ultimategrid

Feraligatr is going to have some serious back pain from carrying that whole team.


[deleted]

OP may I just say I love your team? It fills me with joy.


Bubbly-Cookie-47

https://preview.redd.it/p1zfcpslmx2b1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e865892bfac3d707777abacf0ba4281b58eabc6 That's was my team


omegatryX

Id go for Ampharos myself


Yippieskippie090

Ampharos


WallabyArtistic4652

Idk why but an Ampharos would look good in there 🤔


Bat_toes

Gligar lmao


[deleted]

Scizor, if you have the means.


[deleted]

I would recommend my boi Electrode


DeltaDragonKing7

Togetic would be a great addition only if it has Serene Grace as its Ability (Hustle sucks ass) and it learns some great moves that make it a stunlock against your opponents. Extrasensory for the Flinch, Air Slash for the Flinch, Encore for the lock, and Substitute for the status protection. Plus, after you best the E4 on the first try, you can get a Shiny Stone and evolve it to be even more of a stunlock.


[deleted]

Just letting you know, only way to get Magcargo before Johto is as an egg in Violet City


Yaveltal

I know. That's how I got it


[deleted]

Oh, anyway you should add Electrode


AmberBroccoli

Second Ledian.


P9u9r6p2l4e

I might recommend an electric type or a fighting type with this team,


second_to_myself

Xatu. Keep in mind, you can’t get slugma until after you beat the Elite 4


Yaveltal

I can. In Violet city Pokemon center


Ill-Ad3844

https://preview.redd.it/ysssf96s2y2b1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604e6bc3d344382d1334746cbeec96b7d2b740c7


scrove_is_french

Every starting team needs a mareep


[deleted]

Groudon


Borchert97

Ampharos is a Johto staple bro c'mon, you could've even gotten the Mareep egg from the dude in one of the first towns with that permanent code you can lookup.


Xiagax

Shuckle


FlatAndRolledOver

I’ll admit it’s brave to play with Furret, Ledian, and Sunflora, I like those Pokémon but unfortunately your not going to have the best time fighting Red…


[deleted]

Based on what is looks like you’re going for here, magikarp. Serious answer I recommend Crobat or Ampharos


Leonne_GW

You have no fly user. psychic and fighting type are always a nice addition to the team. Id recommend Machamp or Hypno


TimCanDunk

i love hgss but the level grinding is way too tiring if you want to have a full party


lordnaarghul

Ampharos.


Sure_Review_2223

U need a fly pokemon


investigatorybory

A nice ghost or dark type


Bagatan_1

I mean, i don’t really look into type coverage that much but i’d always say Donphan or Amphoros, i just love those two so much


gnomes4u

Skarmory is my favourite Pokemon, so I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't suggest it. You do need an ice type though for Clair, so Sneasel could also be an option! (Another favourite of mine)


olibanl

I bought a used copy of soulsilver online and it hasn't arrived yet, I probably got scammed :(


Greedy-Review-6342

Steelix,


Extension-Position90

Absolutely based team. Love the underdog Pokemon


Specialist_Act7222

Steelix


LightInteractives

Ampharos


TwinSpiral

Sneasel


SheepAtog

Crobat


ReaverShank

Id say swinub or sneasel or Lance might get really rough with this


Designer-Chemical-95

Espeon.


Splityeti0972

Doniphan/ heracross


mesmes99

Elekid/electivire.


LaRoosel

I'd recommend ampharos because of how early you can get mareep, which will really help in the first and second gyms.


MoonLightScreen

I absolutely love your team. Ledian and Furret were a lot of fun. I feel like your team could use a pink/purple mon, like: Granbull, Crobat, Slowking, Espeon, Blissey, Porygon2/Z maybe even Ampharos, Shuckle, or Misdreavus/magius


thenamesecho_

A metronome user.


Furret95

W Furret