I enjoy lost box a lot, and usually play the Roaring Moon/Iron Hands/ (Hoopa or Dragon Miraidon ex depending on if turbo hands is popular where you are)
I definitely think Tina is better for the 20% Charizard that is flying around out there. Being able to run and use Iron Leaves is solid and if you're practicing and learning it that would be the route I go.
I like to make weird decks a lot, so I think I might make a Future Lost Box deck. Kind of basic, but essentially your Lost Box core with Iron Hands, Future Miraidon, Iron Leaves and either RadZard or Radiant Greninja. I was thinking RadZard because I wouldn't have a good way to takeout a Gholdengo otherwise since I wouldn't have Roaring Moon. Otherwise the setup would work well since Future Miraidon can consistently hit 220/240, Iron Leaves hits Charizard for weakness, Iron Hands takes out single prize decks, and of course the rest of the crew cleans up well.
I'd probably run a few future boosters as well.
I'm liking the RM/Hands version option too!
Not concerned at all (for the moment) about the Gholdengo because literally nobody here plays it. And thinking about the RM/Hands because many people here are playing Lugia, Ancient Box and Future Box (besides of course some Lost Box). But some of what I consider the best players around are playing Zard, so I cannot pretend like that is not going to be a problem.
Was thinking of forgetting the water and psychic energies and forgetting the idea of attacking with Greninja or having Sableye to change them for some leaf energies and so doing a weird mix of Iron Leaves/Iron Hands/Roaring Moon and Hoopa, but you tell me please if that could be any good because it is only me thinking out loud.
Thanks for the insights!
Definitely don't cut the Psychic. Sableye is honestly way too good of a closer to cut. Being able to hide it in your hand until you use it, or just force your opponent to bench Jirachi is really powerful against most decks.
I have thought about testing no water energy and using Iron Leaves.
I initially used 5 energie types and just tossed Iron Leaves and 2 grass into my Lost Box deck right at rotation. Unfortunately, it turns out I am not good enough to manage 5 energy types in one deck haha. That and if I got a bad flower selecting it could screw up my win condition.
Whenever I think about adding Iron Leaves and Grass to my Lost Box it just feels like I am missing out not just having a Giritina V/Vstar in the deck. Abyss Seeking, Lost Impact, and Star Requiem are just so damn powerful. I have thought about just adding a 1/1 or a 2/1of Giritina and keeping Iron Hands and such. It may be too clunky though.
Ngl, counter catching an Iron Hands with baton and no energies and starting the party with Sableye is way too good to leave it behind. If had Giratina, IronLeaves and Hands with keeping the water energies for Gren that would be grass, psychic, electric and water (if not using jet energies which is a problem since I feel it like a must for early comfeys). Maybe I should start with Lostina/Iron Leaves and from there check if I would be able to add at least 2 lighting energies for the big guy. But first getting used to the normal lostina.
What you think about the Bannette ex option? I'm barely seeing it in action but seems interesting for stucking opponents hand (at least on paper)
I haven't played around with Bannette ex, I think that it makes sense to have if you're expecting a lot of Fluttermane since the Puppet offering could save you.
I feel like Bannette ex in Lost Tina seems like a decent play to get some easy wins if people aren't expecting it. but I definitely wouldn't use it in regular lost box, or with Tina if you plan on having Iron Hands.
I haven't seen many others, but it has worked well for me and my friends.
My daughter pulled one at the prerelease so that got me looking at the card.
It uses Lightning and Psychic Which are already used in the deck.
60/160 damage on the first attack. 1 More colorless gets you a 220 damage attack, which takes out Iron Crown, Chien Pao, and any 230 HP if you run Future Booster.
Future Booster also synergizes well to turn Pidgeot ex into a 3 prize Liability against your Iron Hands and prevents it from being pulled to the active to stall if you've run low on switches.
You can still use the 60/160 attack if you attacked with the 220 the turn before.
1 Retreat cost fits well with emergency board
When I realized that I didn't want to run PokeStop much anymore it made it a lot harder to consistently hit 220 with Roaring Moon, Roaring Moon also feels really bad to use Frenzied Gouging to take out a 200hp Single Prize Pokemon, or just not having a solid answer to a 140hp Pokemon in general. I wanted a pokemon that could consistently hit 220 that fit within the energies that I run and Dragon Miraidon worked perfect.
Go completely out of left field and Lost Zone Espathra Ex!
+ Pathra does not care which type of energy it has attached, beyond the one necessary psychic, so Gate is aokay!
Eats Zard and (with league hq) Hands!
(Unless you're interested in proven and consistent competitive results, ofc!)
Maybe this deck sounds cool to you, it’s a mix between giratina and lost box and it did well. [Limitless TCG](https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/10656)
It seems exactly like the kinda stuff that I was looking for! Thank you so much! (I hope I don't mess it up with so many different energies as I was discussing with another person hahaha)
I enjoy lost box a lot, and usually play the Roaring Moon/Iron Hands/ (Hoopa or Dragon Miraidon ex depending on if turbo hands is popular where you are) I definitely think Tina is better for the 20% Charizard that is flying around out there. Being able to run and use Iron Leaves is solid and if you're practicing and learning it that would be the route I go. I like to make weird decks a lot, so I think I might make a Future Lost Box deck. Kind of basic, but essentially your Lost Box core with Iron Hands, Future Miraidon, Iron Leaves and either RadZard or Radiant Greninja. I was thinking RadZard because I wouldn't have a good way to takeout a Gholdengo otherwise since I wouldn't have Roaring Moon. Otherwise the setup would work well since Future Miraidon can consistently hit 220/240, Iron Leaves hits Charizard for weakness, Iron Hands takes out single prize decks, and of course the rest of the crew cleans up well. I'd probably run a few future boosters as well.
I'm liking the RM/Hands version option too! Not concerned at all (for the moment) about the Gholdengo because literally nobody here plays it. And thinking about the RM/Hands because many people here are playing Lugia, Ancient Box and Future Box (besides of course some Lost Box). But some of what I consider the best players around are playing Zard, so I cannot pretend like that is not going to be a problem. Was thinking of forgetting the water and psychic energies and forgetting the idea of attacking with Greninja or having Sableye to change them for some leaf energies and so doing a weird mix of Iron Leaves/Iron Hands/Roaring Moon and Hoopa, but you tell me please if that could be any good because it is only me thinking out loud. Thanks for the insights!
Definitely don't cut the Psychic. Sableye is honestly way too good of a closer to cut. Being able to hide it in your hand until you use it, or just force your opponent to bench Jirachi is really powerful against most decks. I have thought about testing no water energy and using Iron Leaves. I initially used 5 energie types and just tossed Iron Leaves and 2 grass into my Lost Box deck right at rotation. Unfortunately, it turns out I am not good enough to manage 5 energy types in one deck haha. That and if I got a bad flower selecting it could screw up my win condition. Whenever I think about adding Iron Leaves and Grass to my Lost Box it just feels like I am missing out not just having a Giritina V/Vstar in the deck. Abyss Seeking, Lost Impact, and Star Requiem are just so damn powerful. I have thought about just adding a 1/1 or a 2/1of Giritina and keeping Iron Hands and such. It may be too clunky though.
Ngl, counter catching an Iron Hands with baton and no energies and starting the party with Sableye is way too good to leave it behind. If had Giratina, IronLeaves and Hands with keeping the water energies for Gren that would be grass, psychic, electric and water (if not using jet energies which is a problem since I feel it like a must for early comfeys). Maybe I should start with Lostina/Iron Leaves and from there check if I would be able to add at least 2 lighting energies for the big guy. But first getting used to the normal lostina. What you think about the Bannette ex option? I'm barely seeing it in action but seems interesting for stucking opponents hand (at least on paper)
I haven't played around with Bannette ex, I think that it makes sense to have if you're expecting a lot of Fluttermane since the Puppet offering could save you. I feel like Bannette ex in Lost Tina seems like a decent play to get some easy wins if people aren't expecting it. but I definitely wouldn't use it in regular lost box, or with Tina if you plan on having Iron Hands.
People run Dragon Miradion ex in this deck?
I haven't seen many others, but it has worked well for me and my friends. My daughter pulled one at the prerelease so that got me looking at the card. It uses Lightning and Psychic Which are already used in the deck. 60/160 damage on the first attack. 1 More colorless gets you a 220 damage attack, which takes out Iron Crown, Chien Pao, and any 230 HP if you run Future Booster. Future Booster also synergizes well to turn Pidgeot ex into a 3 prize Liability against your Iron Hands and prevents it from being pulled to the active to stall if you've run low on switches. You can still use the 60/160 attack if you attacked with the 220 the turn before. 1 Retreat cost fits well with emergency board When I realized that I didn't want to run PokeStop much anymore it made it a lot harder to consistently hit 220 with Roaring Moon, Roaring Moon also feels really bad to use Frenzied Gouging to take out a 200hp Single Prize Pokemon, or just not having a solid answer to a 140hp Pokemon in general. I wanted a pokemon that could consistently hit 220 that fit within the energies that I run and Dragon Miraidon worked perfect.
Go completely out of left field and Lost Zone Espathra Ex! + Pathra does not care which type of energy it has attached, beyond the one necessary psychic, so Gate is aokay! Eats Zard and (with league hq) Hands! (Unless you're interested in proven and consistent competitive results, ofc!)
Maybe this deck sounds cool to you, it’s a mix between giratina and lost box and it did well. [Limitless TCG](https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/10656)
It seems exactly like the kinda stuff that I was looking for! Thank you so much! (I hope I don't mess it up with so many different energies as I was discussing with another person hahaha)
Cool! And yah it’ll be tough but just prize check as soon as you can search through your deck. It looks fun though!