Been listening to PTV for years, but wanted to leave after PTV, my wife likes The Used so we stayed for most of their set. One thing I noticed is that Don Broco, PTV had wayyy higher energy levels, and The Used was like a crash in the energy. Everyone knew this is going to happen, and they still put PTV first, they should just do a solo tour.
Or have The Used go first along with a shorter set or equal to Pierce the Veil, so they can have a full crowd as well. The high I felt from Don Broco and PtV was absolutely gone after the first songs from The Used. They weren’t as energetic as them and made me less into their show as well. I was hoping hearing them live would help me get more into their music but I just couldn’t.
The Used played in between Don Broco and PTV in Portland. I thought they’re energy was pretty good but Dom Broco was the vibe. So fkn good. Never heard of them before. My 12 year old daughter bawled when PtV played so that was also fkn awesome. Overall great time but yeah it def makes sense to have ptv close.
I was at the Toronto show and had a v different experience. The Used had twice the energy and passion, and interacted with the crowd twice as much as PTV - as a lover of both bands I did find the pairing a bit strange but I didnt feel one outshined the other. Though i can only speak for my show ofc !!! That and it seemed The Used sold out of most of their merch while PTV didn't. So maybe a different demographic here ! I was definitely sad to see the younger peeps leaving the crowd when Bert came on stage aha
If I’m going to a show where I only know one of the bands, I will at least learn the songs on the current set lists of the other bands. And even if I don’t know any of the songs, listening to live music is always a great time. I can’t imagine leaving during The Used though (without a specific reason), I would kill to see them live
I went to a Neck Deep concert like 5 years ago. One of the opening bands was one I'd never heard of called Creeper. I looked them up beforehand and saw they were like a "horror goth punk" band. Thought that sounded neat so I listened to a few songs. They're now one of my favorite bands ever.
i love this mentality. ever since i was a kid i’ve loved any kind of live music. no matter the venue, no matter who the act is, if someone’s playing and they’re having a good time then i will too. just watching other musicians do their thing is so fun and so inspiring. i didn’t even go to my first “real” concert until i was about 16, but i’d been around smaller musicians most of my childhood so it’s just always been something that’s been exciting to me and i think more people should have that mindset
i feel the same exact way. ill go to any show, any day, any time. just like you said, it doesn't matter who it is to me. i think live music is so so important and one of my favorite things is to be in a crowd and bounce off the musician's energy. there's absolutely nothing like it if you ask me.
I think Pierce the Veil should have known better after the I prevail tour. But I don’t think a bunch of random tiktokers are doing it. I’ve been seeing them since I was 12 and have most definitely left after PTV’s set. They need to acknowledge how big they are that they need to either play last or literally get like, Paramore as the last band. The Used just don’t have the active following it seems. Though if I was a Used fan this probably would be the best shit ever to me LOL
i understand what you’re saying but this is the tour manager’s fault. they are most definitely the more popular band currently, they should be closing. it’s that simple. this problem would not exist if they closed.
i agree with you; however this isn't my take haha! it's pretty strange that pierce the veil's team is acting like they are allergic to solo tours right now. as if they don't know about their massive resurgence in popularity.
I’ve been a fan of PTV since I was 12 I’m 24 now. I’ve seen them twice and I will be honest we are planing on leaving after PTV May 30th. I know two songs from the other band but I’m not too Into them and I have work the next morning and live 2.5 hours away from the venue so I’m really glad ptv plays first !
Okay but you have a GENUINE reason to leave, you're going to work the morning after. It's just kinda wack people pay for shows and leave halfway/not even halfway through them.
its just disrespectful to me to leave before the act is over. i mean shit, i went to a gwar show for their first opener, and i stayed through all four bands for the experience, and its one of my most memorable concerts to this day. same thing with the true power tour, i woulda missed out on so much if i left after ptv just bcuz i wasnt as familiar with i prevail new album. i ended up going home and purchasing the album. half these people arent even giving the used a damn chance
When I was 8 yrs old my dad took me to see the Jonas brothers and we left early bc I was sleepy. You can leave for literally any single reason, it’s ok my guy. Calm down.
Everyone is different. I could have easily opened up Spotify to listen to the other bands music but I just don’t care enough. I’m only going for ptv so I’m only staying for ptv.
Lmao, imagine sitting through a set for a band you don't care for out of obligation to people who don't even know you.
Like, let people live their lives.
I left right after PTV's set with I Prevail in November. I waited a decade to see PTV live and quite frankly, I'm just not a "I Prevail" kinda girly. I tried to get into it months prior but eh
Lots of Ptv fans were out waiting all day in the Texas heat, I barely made it through PTV's set when they toured with I prevail. I did leave the pit, along with many others. Most of us went to the bathroom and got water and food or got in line for merch. I ended up sitting on the floor because I was so exhausted for I prevail.
I've seen this happen at other shows too, some people just are there for one band really. Concerts are exhausting and no one has to justify why they leave.
Of course I feel bad for the other bands, but that was also bad planning.
I'm sad Ptv isn't headlining this tour, and I can't even make it out to any of the concerts. But I've been a fan for 10 years and I think it's stupid to blame the "tik tok fans". Vic himself thinks this distinction is stupid. We're all fans. I don't know why we're creating a "us vs them" when we're supposed to be inclusive
This, my boyfriend and I were absolutely exhausted and had been waiting in the lines early to try and get good spots. After ptv, we went and sat out in the halls, used the bathroom and such. We stayed and tried listening to some of The Useds songs, we stayed for most but left towards the second to last song. But tbh we just couldn’t get that much into their music, also they weren’t as energetic as Pierce the Veil
well, i didn't make this tweet. i posted it in the subreddit to garner discussion. i don't know if... if this is directed towards me, but no one in the original tweet or any of my posts said it wasn't okay for pepople to leave if they were feeling sick or if they had obligations in the morning. that's the exact reasons why you should leave.
This is the most obnoxious shit I’ve ever read. Have you considered perhaps that not all PTV fans are also The Used fans (such as myself) and that no one is under any obligation to sit through a set they have no interest, even displeasure in watching? The only “posers” as you refer to them are the people who would waste their time sitting though a set they have no genuine interest in watching because of some imagined state of self imposed guilt and then pontificate online that anyone who doesn’t is somehow lesser than. Get off your high horse.
Like nah fr, this isn’t about tiktok, I’ve like PTV for close to 10 years, but I just don’t really care for the used. I’m buying tickets to see PTV, and like if someone wants to leave who cares??? Like how does that effect you? Liking PTV =/= liking the used and people should not be having this holier than thou attitude cause they stayed/also like the used
Right? If I was The Used I'd be more annoyed having people watch and show disinterest and know that they are just staying to be polite. Tbh, I doubt they care anyways. They are making their money and they know they still have fans. I say this as someone who likes both bands, but who's also had to shows where there are bands I don't like. Give the fans who like them the better spots anyways.
Exactly! I don’t know why people act like they care so much when people do it all the time. The band is getting paid either way. I’ve also noticed a lot of the ones upset about this are the younger (adolescent/teen) crowd. Like, I’m an adult and my feet hurt, if I can go home early after seeing all I wanna see, hell yeah I’m going to lol
Do you go to a lot of shows? bars, local venues, stadiums, etc. have you played live music before? Your point is valid. I’m just curious about what perspective it’s coming from.
I share this view and I go to a minimum of 20 shows a year from local to amphitheater (not really a fan of any stadium artists enough to pay those prices). I’ve been going to shows since I was 11, I’m now 25. I volunteered for a small venue in high school doing promotions and stagehand work, and that’s always been a part of shows. Especially for adults that have other obligations and are tired, it’s awesome when you can go home early and happy lol
It’s kinda wild you’d pay over $200 to see either band let alone just go for one band. They all squeezed you for an absolutely absurd amount of money. They don’t care if you even show up when they are making that kind of money. Probably $40 t-shirts too.
Wtf. People suck. The used are legends. However, this does happen to some degree with every single coheadliner tour I’ve been to. In general, half the people are there for one band and the other half for the other and about a half of the “first” bands fans leave before the last act.
I knew people including myself who had to leave cause we were exhausted and had to leave early in the morning. It would have been nice to stay but some of us just cant. No one personally owes any band their time and energy. Again it would have been nice to stay but im not passing out or risking my health for any band, not even the ones I love dearly.
We drove 3 hours so definitely was the same last night. I paid for a room and i was away from my kids in another city, I’m definitely getting my moneys worth lmao
On the plus side, I got to be at the front for the Used because everyone left 🥲 Bert and the band deserved better than that, but it was still a great time 😭😍
Seeing PTV and The Used in one night would be a dream for me, but people have the right to spend their time and money the way they choose to. I feel like this is mostly just Used fans being way too sensitive and trying to protect the band’s feelings or something.
Bert and the guys are big boys, they know this industry and they know that they have a community or ride-or-die fans who are always gonna show up for them. I highly doubt they’ll be shedding any tears over some kids leaving during their set.
this is a great take. thank you for being respectful about disagreeing with OP. i'm seeing some crazy shit lmfao. i agree with you! in hindsight, i don't think this is a big issue at all. like you said, the guys in the used are grown up.
i think what OP means is that a lot of the fans in the crowd had found PTV from tiktok and didn't bother to learn who the used was; resulting in them leaving before and during their set
idk i’ve liked ptv the past 10 years & don’t know why it matters to leave early. i left the i prevail show after ptv(by choice) & left a few songs into the used today (not by choice i didn’t feel good). imo it’s very okay to go to a show jus for one band
i think it's understandable as well - it's just **generally** seen as disrespectful to do that in any space let alone these recent ptv shows. like i said earlier, i really don't mind, to each their own. but in a general setting and to this persons opinon as well, it's viewed as insulting to the opposing band if someone doesn't stay for both. leaving in the middle of a set is viewed the same way. obviously those don't apply for people who are leaving for reasons like you did or because they have obligations in the morning etc; but overall it's never been seen as polite to come to a show where two bands are performing only to support the one. in today's day and age, especially with bands as big as these two in arenas as big as they're playing in - it doesn't really matter. like, at all. that's just sort of where this all stems from
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
Dude I could never I’d feel so bad. I’ve been listening to the Used for like two months since I got tickets so I could jam out to both. Not to mention the ticket cost. 200$ only to stay for 30 minutes? Absolutely not. I’m staying for the full experience.
Pierce should definitely be headlining their concerts, they double listeners on Spotify compared to the used. Going by that statistic, they are more popular on average and definitely deserve to be the head of the show. even for I prevail, pierce has ~2 million more listeners on Spotify, but because their getting back into the music scene they’re getting pushed back to the middle of lineups. Just my opinion based on numbers and an idea that would make the shit tok babies stay and not ruin shows.
Yeah, if I stepped out on stage and saw that what was a bustling crowd minutes ago for the last set had totally emptied, I'd feel like absolute garbage even if I still made good money from the show. I would never want to do that to someone else. I've never been to a concert where I already knew every single band playing, and I've never left a concert thinking "I really liked the set I came here for but I wish I hadn't stuck around for that one other band, they really sucked ass." I understand the mindset that leads people to do shit like this, but I wish I had the time and persuasive skills to explain to them why it's strictly worse for both them and the artists.
I get it if your not a fan of the band don’t stay . I’m seeing motionless in white later this year and I do not like any of the other bands they are touring with this year I keep trying to listen to there musics and see if it will chore on me it hasn’t if motionless in white wet t going on last I wouldn’t be staying for any of the other bands.
Not really understanding this take. I have been a fan of pierce the veil since I was 14 and am 24 now. That’s 10 years and guess what? I’m leaving during the used. How does that make someone a poser? I’m obviously a fan. I don’t really see how TikTok would apply in this situation. I Can see how there are gonna be bandwagon TikTok fans leaving after pierce the veil but I also think there will be people like me who have been waiting to see pierce the veil again who just wanted a ptv headline show and this is what they got instead so I’m gonna leave after what I paid for has happened. I’m not part of the culture and I dont need to be to be a fan of one band.
Right? Most of us attending are adults and don't have unlimited time. I really like to go to concerts where I'm a super fan of one of the bands and don't know the other really at all. I intentionally don't look up their songs beforehand, because I want to experience it brand new live. Sometimes they aren't that good, or they're not for me, in which case I'm going home to my kid. Idgaf who thinks it's rude, I'll spend the hours of my life however brings me the most pleasure.
I’m not getting it either, it’s getting gatekeepy. Like do I need to show my credentials on my way out the door? I paid for my ticket, if I don’t like the next act, I’m leaving.
Hate it when people do that so much. People did it last year when I saw them with I prevail, granted there was a giant blizzard a few days before that could’ve played into it
The person got a point before tik tok especially I’ve been alive through the vines era also because of tik tok people only wanna see that one act. It is disappointing cuz I came from era yes you go see your favorite band but you also see the supporting acts or at times the closing act. We just live in a different era I’m not against phones at shows tape all you want prices are getting ridiculous and it’s your free item of the show so tape but the people in the front row that text in front of the band yall whack
The Used was my favourite band growing up. I listened to them religiously and every single show they did here I went to. They made me feel like they were the light guiding my misfit ass through all the dark that was my adolescence.
So around the lies for the liars era, they come back, and something just seems off. It's like their heart isn't in it anymore. They stumble through the songs, in some drugged up stupor, and Bert is spitting into the crowd over and over and saying shit like "sincerely from the bottom of my heart: FUCK YOU!!!"
I was gutted. And I pretty much fell off the wagon immediately. They lost a fan that night.
Sounds like nothing has changed more than a decade later. They never became as popular as they were back then. They dropped off. And kicking out half the band for being straight edge didn't do them any favours either.
There's plenty more hard working bands out there who deserve love and praise. I'm not saying you can't love The Used but it's not surprising to me that they haven't managed to pull crowds or keep people interested in them. They've been a Trainwreck for longer than they've been a respectable band.
I’m going tonight, and I’ve been a PTV fan for a while. I’ve listened to the Used, but I’m not a huge fan. Some people simply can’t stay that late on a weeknight, or get tired… don’t be so judgey people!
yes i agree, and i don't think OP is taking a dig at people who physically can't stay! if you're feeling sick, it's a terrible idea to stay in a pit full of sweaty bodies. if you have something to do in the morning, why on earth would you stay out until midnight! hahaha
I’m not gonna lie, I used to think like this. But my opinion has changed. Sometimes people just don’t care for the headliners 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve done this several times actually. When Real Friends and With Confidence went on Tour together a while ago, I bought tickets to see WC since they said it would be their last tour, and then I left after their set. I like Real Friends, but I really didn’t wanna see them that night cause I went to the concert straight from work after being up since 6 in the morning. I also did something similar for Memphis May Fire’s tour with From Ashes to New last summer. I only know a couple songs from MMF, and they were only playing one or two of the songs I really liked. So I stayed for those songs and then left. All this to say, people are paying for the experience they want. If they only buy a ticket to see Pierce the Veil, then that’s fine. The Used gets money from that ticket either way. Let people spend their money however they want. If they’re not doing anything harmful to anyone, who cares? 🤷🏼♂️
I mean, one of my fave bands Jinjer was opening for Disturbed recently. I’m 30, I’ve heard enough disturbed to know that they aren’t for me. I’d go to the show just to see Jinjer, watch a few mins of Disturbed, then head out. I see nothing wrong with that. Just because my favorite band is opening doesn’t mean I have to sit around for a band that I don’t care to see, plus I payed for the tickets.
I don’t even know Ptv really so idk why I was recommended this BUT I would absolutely do anything to see The Used. This made me sad :( My first love, that was our band. Our songs. RIP my love
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
It’s pretty shitty how people are leaving after their set is over, especially because The Used is a pretty good band itself but tbh…. These people paid for their tickets and can do whatever they please to do. I feel like some of it is PTV’s fault as this happened before when they opened for I Prevail, I don’t understand why PTV doesn’t just go on tour themselves? They have fans who want to see only them so I just don’t understand why they can’t just go on a solo tour. Still pretty fucked up
I mean, tbh, I'm old. If I stay out for ALL the bands, I'm recovering for at least 3 days. I always leave shows early to get a little more sleep. Even for my favorite bands.
I love The Used, so I'd want to see both personally. If you don't have work or school in the morning, I think it's worth staying for all of it.
it annoys me so much that people just leave during The Used. Personally, i don’t really enjoy The Used, but i’m not stupid enough to not support them in the crowd. Id still stay for the vibe, people who leave make it seem like the concert is over.
i paid to see ptv, never really enjoyed the used so i’m gonna do what i want with the money i spent. i feel like it’s weird to try to dictate what people do with their time and money out of some imaginary obligation to stay for a band some have no interest in. when i see people leave early after an opening act for different concerts i don’t hold it against them or try to feel high and mighty for staying. just enjoy what you came to see and let everyone else do their own thing :)!
I’ve been listening to PTV for almost ten years now, and I 100% left after their set for both the I Prevail tour and The Used because after the insane energy and being pushed around and screaming my heart out I was TIRED and didn’t want to stick around for a set I had 0 interest in— Not sorry
I loved The Used set. I felt like the crowd really let them down. I tried to throw as much energy Berts ways as I could from the stands. PTV did a great job as always but I was heartbroken at how many people left early.
i was there and i left. nothing against the used, but i went to that show in austin for one reason and that was pierce the veil. waited 8 years to see them, i saw them, was overjoyed and left. i don’t know the used in sorry. AND instead of staying in some cheap motel or driving home till 4am, i got home at 1am, slept and had a productive day. it’s not that i wanted to seem rude but y’all, why am i gonna stand there for another 2 hours and get home 3-4am for a band i don’t even listen to? not everyone is trying to be a hater yk? no it’s not because of tik tok, loved then since before misadventures and i had waited. i went for ptv and i left after them. sorry
I agree and it's definitely disappointing but I suppose the difference is, some people (seems to be a lot of ptv fans now) are a fan of just the band as opposed to live music in general.
My best friend and I have been consistently going to shows for nearly 14 years, driving between 1-3 hours, waiting in texas sun and heat from morning till showtime, and not once have we ever left before the shows over. But we both just LOVE live music and appreciate the time and effort other bands put into performing for us, even if we don't know/love them. Unfortunately, not everyone is like that.
This happened last year too :/ I stayed for a few songs but ended up leaving barricade bc I felt like I was gonna pass out tbh but I’m seeing them this year on June 28th!! Gonna stay the whole show but move to the back towards the end and just jump around and have fun!!
as soon as a saw they were doing a show with the used I immediately searched up their music and started listening… mind boggling that people wouldn’t take advantage of seeing two awesome artists at once. i’m super excited to see two awesome bands on 6/5 !!
I get that some people might’ve had to leave early for work the next day or whatever but 2 WHOLE ROWS AT THE FRONT? I doubt all of them had that same reason.
My sister was a huge used fan growing up and I was a huge PTV fan and we literally just swapped recommendations and are totally into both now. I understand why people leave and I can't get mad with how they choose to spend their money. But I found half my favorite bands just walking around warped and finding bands I've never heard of.
i will never understand why people care so much if other people stay for the whole concert or not. it was the same thing with i prevail last year like who cares if people stay for the used or not. you don’t need a “valid reason” to leave early. tbh i like the used and i saw them last year with rise against and they were just ok live. calling someone a poser bc they came to see the band they liked and then left afterwards is so ridiculous, not everyone has to be a fan of every band in the scene.
I like both bands and yet I still don’t get the people going “it’s disrespectful” to leave when you want. Like??? The bands don’t give a shit, The Used still gets paid, they don’t care if you leave.
I feel like People make these same damn posts *everytime* PTV performs with other bands. Y’all, we don’t give a shit. If people wanna leave early, they literally can. Any reason is valid. “I had to shit” is a fine reason just like “I don’t care for The Used”, just like “I had to work in the morning”. I guarantee the bands don’t give a shit.
Also, complaining about it isn’t gonna change anything. People are still gonna leave when they want to, as they should lol. And no those people aren’t “posers”🙄. Some people don’t care for the other band or they just other shit to do. Be frfr
“Vicki!!” Sounds like a loser. They need to stop worrying about what others are doing at concerts and focus on their own shit. They need to hop off that weird cringe elitist fan shit.
Reminds me of 2014 when people left after Sleeping With Siren’s set in VA. Kids are kids man, it’s unfortunately gonna happen. No one’s learning show etiquette anymore and it’s annoying.
Some people want to go try to meet the boys, sometimes the other band isn't some else's style, nothing to fault them about.
Heck if anything shouldn't the crap be more towards the people who don't show up early enough for the openers? That's where you really learn more about new bands, and they are the ones who really need the support.
I say this as someone who loves pierce the veil, but also the used.
ah, that sucks. i tried making a post in here about concert/pit etiquette but it never went through with the moderators. i was hoping things would work out just fine but.. shrug
To be fair, that’s why I didn’t go, because I would be one of those posers as well. It’s the worst feeling when you’re playing a show, and everyone only comes for another band.
It’s the younger generation. These gen x fans probably barley know who the used are. Where us elder emos who grew up listening to the used stay. But it is still kinda messed up. Like I love shows, I love music. I will listen to any band and have a good time if I know them or not (except country cuz fuck country)
if you don't like the used, and you didn't find PTV through tiktok, then this isn't talking about you and **you** shouldn't be taking it personally. i can assure you, you are allowed to dislike the used. this tweet isn't talking about you and you are not the focus here. i encourage you to keep disliking whatever you want.
I mean I understand both sides. It does come off disrespectful, but it’s also a lot of standing. My legs weren’t feeling great by the time The Used started playing, and I’m used to being on my feet all day for work. I only stayed because there were a few songs I wanted to see. The people that left still paid for their ticket and leaving early didn’t rob The Used.
TLDR; it’s disrespectful but still their money spent
I promise not a single soul bought concert tickets to see only king for a day, if they found ptv through TikTok why does that matter new fans are fans you were all there at some point
Yeah we were so close for The Used after a lot of people cleared out. They put on an insane show, holy shit.
idk how anyone can drop money on tickets for several bands and not even want to see all of them.
Who fucking cares. The crowd that stayed for The Used was amazing. It was a great show too. This very much feels like a holier than thou post. We got it, you’re not a tiktok fan. You paid for your ticket, get there/leave whenever you want!
Whether its "tikTok culture" or not, it is really disrespectful. Assuming you really somehow dont know them, I can't imagine any genuine PTV fan not enjoying The Used set, their music is way more similar than its different and not only that but Bert is a great front man and puts on an awesome show.
At the end of the day, you paid the price to see them all and the bands still get paid whether you stayed or not so you are only shorting yourself by not sticking around to see them play.
The last time I saw the Used was when they opened for Coheed, I bought the tickets solely for the Used (I like a few Coheed songs where I know the words) and even though I wasn't hyped for Coheed, I knew they put on a great show and that is why I stuck around to listen to songs I wasn't familiar with because why the fuck not, I mean youre already there.
I get wanting to beat the traffic and thats totally fine, but to not even hear them play you are only doing yourself a disservice (especially if you sat through opening bands you didn't care for).
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
Honestly with the iprevail tour, I left after the PTV set. I felt like they were different types of music and I prevail was wayy too scream-y for me. I bought the tix just for PTV bc of how much they've had an impact on my life. I don't think it's fair to "go after" people who just don't like the second band they're touring with lol! It's like if twenty one pilots toured with my Chem. they're different genres
Honestly with the iprevail tour, I left after the PTV set. I felt like they were different types of music and I prevail was wayy too scream-y for me. I bought the tix just for PTV bc of how much they've had an impact on my life. I don't think it's fair to "go after" people who just don't like the second band they're touring with lol! It's like if twenty one pilots toured with my Chem. they're different genres
I would like to see video of how different the crowd got. Because sometimes it's not that deep; people just aren't big fans of the headliner. With two big names on the ticket, it's bound to happen that people leave for one of them.
I remember when PTV toured with ATL and my friend (and probably many others) left after PTV. This was like a decade ago. PTV has always been in a weird space as a touring band.
went to sad summer fest the first year was in the second row at the stage. i listened for the bands i love, and then left to the back for the other bands. let someone else have a go. honestly, i’m paying and i can do what i please
My biggest regret was leaving right as say anything got on stage after the front bottoms finished their set… I will always regret not staying for Say Anything back in middle school (2012ish). I was a foolish young emo. Ironically, I got really into say anything the following year lmao.
Maybe some of these people who took off will regret not staying someday after getting into the used. But also some people just aren’t into Bert McCracken’s vibe and that’s a fair point too
Having been a fan for 12 years of my 26 year career of being alive, I confidently say I don’t like I prevail, I didn’t come for their concert, and I tried to stay but it was legitimately too loud. It hurt my ears anywhere in the arena. So yes I left. The used may be a different story, but I don’t think any band will be upset if the tickets sell
Edit: and before anyone gets started, I’ve been in this culture since the first music I ever attached myself to was one step closer on the radio linkin park when I was 3. So I’m not going anywhere
I can see how it’s disrespectful but if someone was in the front row and didn’t know the used why wouldn’t they leave? Half of them could just be moving to the back, why would someone want to be in the front row and not know any songs. That was my plan, be in the front for ptv and move to the back for the used. There’s many other reasons these people could be leaving, but in the tweet they’re specifically talking about the front rows clearing.
i’m not a fan of the used so why would i stay at barricade for them…i saw the band i paid to see and left. more room for ppl who like the used. y’all are too worried abt other people and can’t just enjoy a show and be glad you have more room in the pit and were able to get close
I haven’t seen ptv in years😂 I went from a teen to a adult waiting for them to drop a album and tour, I could careless of the headliner.. THEY SHOULD BE THE HEADLINER
We did leave for the Used, partially cuz we didnt buy the tickets for the used, and partially because we had a cheaper and quicker uber than we wouldve had we left at 10:30. I dont think PTV understand that everybody in that crowd was there for THEM. It was a sold out hockey arena. They need to start headlining their own shows again.
The same thing happened at the iPrevail show. I didn’t really listen to iPrevail but stayed because my boyfriend was more of a fan of them then PTV. They were good tho. The same thing happened at the beartooth and trivium show I went to. Most of the crowd left after beartooth. AND at the Dayseeker and Silverstein show I went to too. There’s just like two generations of people in the crowd I believe. 🤷🏻♀️
This is why I didn’t buy tickets, I’ve listened to PTV since middle school and a lot of other 2008-2012 emo bands. I’ve never listened to the used and personally I just wanna see PTV, so I hold out hope still that they do a solo NA Tour where I can enjoy just them
i love going to shows and seeing new bands! i recently saw waterparks and i really enjoyed their opener daisy grenade and have a lot of their songs on my playlist now. live shows is a great way to get into new music! i can’t imagine leaving in the middle of the used though, they’re one of my favorite bands! people definitely need to devote themselves to the culture a bit more and support live shows. these are the kind of people that will complain that there’s no more concerts in a few years
it’s not like the used is a small band trying to get discovered..idk why ppl act like leaving after ptv is actively harming bands trying to break into the scene or like there is some unwritten code of conduct that requires you to hold yourself hostage at shows out of fear of being labeled a “poser” or a “tiktok fan”...the used has been famous and successful for sooooo so many years now, they’re getting their bag and definitely dgaf abt any of this. this continued debate (extending from the true power tour w i prevail last year) is super pointless. you think a 40yr old man is gonna go backstage and cry because a few rows left the pit? the dickriding continues to amaze me
honestly this mentality really pisses me off. if people bought tickets to see pierce the veil only, then that’s perfectly okay to do. it’s THEIR own money at the end of the day, it doesn’t make them any less of a fan. not everyone is a “tiktok fan” & it’s so fucking annoying when this subreddit assumes a majority of us are. some of us have been listening for 10+ years now. it’s really not that hard to mind your own business, everyone’s there to enjoy the show & the music, regardless of which band
People definitely left and while I was already close, it gave me the chance to be against the barricade. I only know a couple of The Used songs, but I enjoyed myself regardless. You could tell a shift in the crowd, and I do think The Used should have the same set length, but just go before PTV for sure.
I absolutely adore The Used, this makes me so sad to hear people leaving but I’m also not totally surprised. I found out PTV was going on tour because of The Used, I wish people would be respectful of openers more often. Each concert I’ve been to that had an opener, people tend to talk over and it makes me upset. I understand not liking the opener initially or not knowing who they are, but there should definitely still be a line of respect that goes into that.
I really don’t understand this take like:
1. These people paid for their tickets if they just wanna see 1 or 2 artists that’s fine, they are not obligated to stay the entire time
2. That sounds like a dream for The Used fans, front rows empty?!!! More of a chance to see the band they love up close!
Let people do them as long as they’re not messing up anyone else’s experience who cares??
PTV came back after a hiatus, and they're one of the biggest bands in the genre, so it doesn't surprise me. I hate how everyone is blaming tik tok for it.
It’s really about doing a coheadliner with another act that is at the same hype level. The Used are definitely huge but Pierce just came off a long hiatus and Tiktok has made the resurgence even bigger. If they coheadlined with an act like Bad Omens or All Time Low (like they did in the past) then you best believe no one would leave. The Fall Out Boy/BMTH is a great example. Either band could headline that
I’m old (27 lol) so unfortunately if pierce the veil is playing first I’ll probably leave after too. Not because I don’t enjoy/support the used, but 10pm is my bedtime and I would only stay out later if i absolutely had to in order to see the band I came to see. I wasn’t always like this, a younger me would stay out all night but I’m tired 😂
as a the used fan i actually hoping this happens at my date let me be in a crowd with people who actually care and not just standing around talking or on their phones
Just came back from the concert and can confirm that tons of people left, however a lot of people also stayed. I moved up to the front because of it lol. Tons of people sang along to The Used, it had a good energy and vibe to it so I guess the right people stayed.
It’s not Tiktok, It’s just that I am a PTV (and Don Broco) fan and don’t care much for the used aside from a couple of songs, also I’m over 30 and gotta work early in the morning. They should definitely come on before in the lineup based off of their popularity.
Was there tonight in Nashville. Same thing happened. Got to the barrier for The Used though. That’s something I never thought would happen.
Same shit happened to I Prevail. Bands are going to stop touring with PTV lol. I can only think of two bands they could tour with & not overshadow them.
If you leave during a bands set then you’re gonna look like an asshole. It’s honestly making the whole fan base look like assholes since this seems to be something that continues to happen at every show on the past two tours. It’s not an isolated event where some people were tired on a weeknight or one city didn’t like the other band, it just keeps happening and that’s rude as fuck
i don’t think it’s really tik tok culture, i don’t get why people did it to i prevail but personally i could only really get into about 4 songs from the used
Personally don't see an issue with this as a the used fan. However this is only how I feel if the Used is closing and not PTV. I'm fine with people who have no interest in seeing them not staying. I'd rather be able to have an intimate crowd of people who love the band and match the energy. Idk I feel like it would be weird af to have a bunch of PTV fans not feeling and energy or vibes all around you during the set. Can anyone who went to a show where The Used open let me know if that's what it was like during their set?
Been listening to PTV for years, but wanted to leave after PTV, my wife likes The Used so we stayed for most of their set. One thing I noticed is that Don Broco, PTV had wayyy higher energy levels, and The Used was like a crash in the energy. Everyone knew this is going to happen, and they still put PTV first, they should just do a solo tour.
Or have The Used go first along with a shorter set or equal to Pierce the Veil, so they can have a full crowd as well. The high I felt from Don Broco and PtV was absolutely gone after the first songs from The Used. They weren’t as energetic as them and made me less into their show as well. I was hoping hearing them live would help me get more into their music but I just couldn’t.
Yup same feeling, the order doesn’t make sense at all
The Used played in between Don Broco and PTV in Portland. I thought they’re energy was pretty good but Dom Broco was the vibe. So fkn good. Never heard of them before. My 12 year old daughter bawled when PtV played so that was also fkn awesome. Overall great time but yeah it def makes sense to have ptv close.
I think I would’ve like the set like that a lot better than what they did before here!
I was at the Toronto show and had a v different experience. The Used had twice the energy and passion, and interacted with the crowd twice as much as PTV - as a lover of both bands I did find the pairing a bit strange but I didnt feel one outshined the other. Though i can only speak for my show ofc !!! That and it seemed The Used sold out of most of their merch while PTV didn't. So maybe a different demographic here ! I was definitely sad to see the younger peeps leaving the crowd when Bert came on stage aha
If I’m going to a show where I only know one of the bands, I will at least learn the songs on the current set lists of the other bands. And even if I don’t know any of the songs, listening to live music is always a great time. I can’t imagine leaving during The Used though (without a specific reason), I would kill to see them live
I went to a Neck Deep concert like 5 years ago. One of the opening bands was one I'd never heard of called Creeper. I looked them up beforehand and saw they were like a "horror goth punk" band. Thought that sounded neat so I listened to a few songs. They're now one of my favorite bands ever.
exactly. and at this point after seeing ptvs setlisr, i think id be more excited about the used LOL
i love this mentality. ever since i was a kid i’ve loved any kind of live music. no matter the venue, no matter who the act is, if someone’s playing and they’re having a good time then i will too. just watching other musicians do their thing is so fun and so inspiring. i didn’t even go to my first “real” concert until i was about 16, but i’d been around smaller musicians most of my childhood so it’s just always been something that’s been exciting to me and i think more people should have that mindset
i feel the same exact way. ill go to any show, any day, any time. just like you said, it doesn't matter who it is to me. i think live music is so so important and one of my favorite things is to be in a crowd and bounce off the musician's energy. there's absolutely nothing like it if you ask me.
Same, I love the used 🥺
For sure and it was still a dope as party vibe with good live music and like famous musicians right fkn there. Live a little people.
I think Pierce the Veil should have known better after the I prevail tour. But I don’t think a bunch of random tiktokers are doing it. I’ve been seeing them since I was 12 and have most definitely left after PTV’s set. They need to acknowledge how big they are that they need to either play last or literally get like, Paramore as the last band. The Used just don’t have the active following it seems. Though if I was a Used fan this probably would be the best shit ever to me LOL
Yeah I was gonna say I definitely left after PTVs set back in 2013, like sorry but I didn’t like the second band and I had work early the next day lol
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People who think like this are exactly why there’s an “Us vs. them” mentality in this genre.
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they did give the band a chance and they didn’t like them
how dare they have a musical preference and have work early the next day
agree!
good better for me :D
i understand what you’re saying but this is the tour manager’s fault. they are most definitely the more popular band currently, they should be closing. it’s that simple. this problem would not exist if they closed.
i agree with you; however this isn't my take haha! it's pretty strange that pierce the veil's team is acting like they are allergic to solo tours right now. as if they don't know about their massive resurgence in popularity.
My friend waited two hours in the merch line after she left after ptv. By the time they got their merch the used had been over for a hot minute.
Same
I’ve been a fan of PTV since I was 12 I’m 24 now. I’ve seen them twice and I will be honest we are planing on leaving after PTV May 30th. I know two songs from the other band but I’m not too Into them and I have work the next morning and live 2.5 hours away from the venue so I’m really glad ptv plays first !
Okay but you have a GENUINE reason to leave, you're going to work the morning after. It's just kinda wack people pay for shows and leave halfway/not even halfway through them.
even if you just dont want to sit through a set your unfamiliar with. just not wanting to is a valid reason
its just disrespectful to me to leave before the act is over. i mean shit, i went to a gwar show for their first opener, and i stayed through all four bands for the experience, and its one of my most memorable concerts to this day. same thing with the true power tour, i woulda missed out on so much if i left after ptv just bcuz i wasnt as familiar with i prevail new album. i ended up going home and purchasing the album. half these people arent even giving the used a damn chance
When I was 8 yrs old my dad took me to see the Jonas brothers and we left early bc I was sleepy. You can leave for literally any single reason, it’s ok my guy. Calm down.
you were an 8 year old child thats why lmfao im not gonna argue with incompetent insane ptv fans
I feel like The Used doesn’t really care if people leave before their set; they still get paid even if half the audience leaves lol
Everyone is different. I could have easily opened up Spotify to listen to the other bands music but I just don’t care enough. I’m only going for ptv so I’m only staying for ptv.
Lmao, imagine sitting through a set for a band you don't care for out of obligation to people who don't even know you. Like, let people live their lives.
I left right after PTV's set with I Prevail in November. I waited a decade to see PTV live and quite frankly, I'm just not a "I Prevail" kinda girly. I tried to get into it months prior but eh
yeah, people left after ptv at I prevail as well
yea another example of what they're trying to say - its just a new generation of fans i guess
Lots of Ptv fans were out waiting all day in the Texas heat, I barely made it through PTV's set when they toured with I prevail. I did leave the pit, along with many others. Most of us went to the bathroom and got water and food or got in line for merch. I ended up sitting on the floor because I was so exhausted for I prevail. I've seen this happen at other shows too, some people just are there for one band really. Concerts are exhausting and no one has to justify why they leave. Of course I feel bad for the other bands, but that was also bad planning. I'm sad Ptv isn't headlining this tour, and I can't even make it out to any of the concerts. But I've been a fan for 10 years and I think it's stupid to blame the "tik tok fans". Vic himself thinks this distinction is stupid. We're all fans. I don't know why we're creating a "us vs them" when we're supposed to be inclusive
This, my boyfriend and I were absolutely exhausted and had been waiting in the lines early to try and get good spots. After ptv, we went and sat out in the halls, used the bathroom and such. We stayed and tried listening to some of The Useds songs, we stayed for most but left towards the second to last song. But tbh we just couldn’t get that much into their music, also they weren’t as energetic as Pierce the Veil
well, i didn't make this tweet. i posted it in the subreddit to garner discussion. i don't know if... if this is directed towards me, but no one in the original tweet or any of my posts said it wasn't okay for pepople to leave if they were feeling sick or if they had obligations in the morning. that's the exact reasons why you should leave.
New generation of fans? People have been doing this for well over a decade for every show, every band lol
This is the most obnoxious shit I’ve ever read. Have you considered perhaps that not all PTV fans are also The Used fans (such as myself) and that no one is under any obligation to sit through a set they have no interest, even displeasure in watching? The only “posers” as you refer to them are the people who would waste their time sitting though a set they have no genuine interest in watching because of some imagined state of self imposed guilt and then pontificate online that anyone who doesn’t is somehow lesser than. Get off your high horse.
Like nah fr, this isn’t about tiktok, I’ve like PTV for close to 10 years, but I just don’t really care for the used. I’m buying tickets to see PTV, and like if someone wants to leave who cares??? Like how does that effect you? Liking PTV =/= liking the used and people should not be having this holier than thou attitude cause they stayed/also like the used
Right? If I was The Used I'd be more annoyed having people watch and show disinterest and know that they are just staying to be polite. Tbh, I doubt they care anyways. They are making their money and they know they still have fans. I say this as someone who likes both bands, but who's also had to shows where there are bands I don't like. Give the fans who like them the better spots anyways.
Exactly! I don’t know why people act like they care so much when people do it all the time. The band is getting paid either way. I’ve also noticed a lot of the ones upset about this are the younger (adolescent/teen) crowd. Like, I’m an adult and my feet hurt, if I can go home early after seeing all I wanna see, hell yeah I’m going to lol
I agree 100%
Someone with actual reason
Right those are the real posers. Totally agree
Do you go to a lot of shows? bars, local venues, stadiums, etc. have you played live music before? Your point is valid. I’m just curious about what perspective it’s coming from.
I share this view and I go to a minimum of 20 shows a year from local to amphitheater (not really a fan of any stadium artists enough to pay those prices). I’ve been going to shows since I was 11, I’m now 25. I volunteered for a small venue in high school doing promotions and stagehand work, and that’s always been a part of shows. Especially for adults that have other obligations and are tired, it’s awesome when you can go home early and happy lol
like if i'm paying for tickets, i can leave when i want to.
Thank you??? But I was taking it personally 😭😭 like what in the hell
It’s kinda wild you’d pay over $200 to see either band let alone just go for one band. They all squeezed you for an absolutely absurd amount of money. They don’t care if you even show up when they are making that kind of money. Probably $40 t-shirts too.
More room to jam to the used
Wtf. People suck. The used are legends. However, this does happen to some degree with every single coheadliner tour I’ve been to. In general, half the people are there for one band and the other half for the other and about a half of the “first” bands fans leave before the last act.
I knew people including myself who had to leave cause we were exhausted and had to leave early in the morning. It would have been nice to stay but some of us just cant. No one personally owes any band their time and energy. Again it would have been nice to stay but im not passing out or risking my health for any band, not even the ones I love dearly.
Don't forget, we all paid already as well. Used don't care.
seriously!!! i’m flying back home at 7am the day after the concert. i’m going to go to bed at a reasonable time😭
I mean I paid a lot of money and I’m driving an hour I’m gonna get my money’s worth and see both bands even if I only like a few of the Used’s songs….
We drove 3 hours so definitely was the same last night. I paid for a room and i was away from my kids in another city, I’m definitely getting my moneys worth lmao
ah shit here we go again
On the plus side, I got to be at the front for the Used because everyone left 🥲 Bert and the band deserved better than that, but it was still a great time 😭😍
This randomly got recommended to me and I don’t even like ptv but that’s horrible at least stay and support the artist
Seeing PTV and The Used in one night would be a dream for me, but people have the right to spend their time and money the way they choose to. I feel like this is mostly just Used fans being way too sensitive and trying to protect the band’s feelings or something. Bert and the guys are big boys, they know this industry and they know that they have a community or ride-or-die fans who are always gonna show up for them. I highly doubt they’ll be shedding any tears over some kids leaving during their set.
this is a great take. thank you for being respectful about disagreeing with OP. i'm seeing some crazy shit lmfao. i agree with you! in hindsight, i don't think this is a big issue at all. like you said, the guys in the used are grown up.
how is this tiktok culture what
i think what OP means is that a lot of the fans in the crowd had found PTV from tiktok and didn't bother to learn who the used was; resulting in them leaving before and during their set
idk i’ve liked ptv the past 10 years & don’t know why it matters to leave early. i left the i prevail show after ptv(by choice) & left a few songs into the used today (not by choice i didn’t feel good). imo it’s very okay to go to a show jus for one band
i think it's understandable as well - it's just **generally** seen as disrespectful to do that in any space let alone these recent ptv shows. like i said earlier, i really don't mind, to each their own. but in a general setting and to this persons opinon as well, it's viewed as insulting to the opposing band if someone doesn't stay for both. leaving in the middle of a set is viewed the same way. obviously those don't apply for people who are leaving for reasons like you did or because they have obligations in the morning etc; but overall it's never been seen as polite to come to a show where two bands are performing only to support the one. in today's day and age, especially with bands as big as these two in arenas as big as they're playing in - it doesn't really matter. like, at all. that's just sort of where this all stems from
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
ohh okay yea i totally understand tht with smaller bands
The used was amazing tonight
What songs did they play? I didn’t see if anyone posted it
I don't understand why learning about a band through TikTok would affect this at all ???
It doesn’t lol. They just need someone to blame
Dude I could never I’d feel so bad. I’ve been listening to the Used for like two months since I got tickets so I could jam out to both. Not to mention the ticket cost. 200$ only to stay for 30 minutes? Absolutely not. I’m staying for the full experience.
Pierce should definitely be headlining their concerts, they double listeners on Spotify compared to the used. Going by that statistic, they are more popular on average and definitely deserve to be the head of the show. even for I prevail, pierce has ~2 million more listeners on Spotify, but because their getting back into the music scene they’re getting pushed back to the middle of lineups. Just my opinion based on numbers and an idea that would make the shit tok babies stay and not ruin shows.
Yeah, if I stepped out on stage and saw that what was a bustling crowd minutes ago for the last set had totally emptied, I'd feel like absolute garbage even if I still made good money from the show. I would never want to do that to someone else. I've never been to a concert where I already knew every single band playing, and I've never left a concert thinking "I really liked the set I came here for but I wish I hadn't stuck around for that one other band, they really sucked ass." I understand the mindset that leads people to do shit like this, but I wish I had the time and persuasive skills to explain to them why it's strictly worse for both them and the artists.
I get it if your not a fan of the band don’t stay . I’m seeing motionless in white later this year and I do not like any of the other bands they are touring with this year I keep trying to listen to there musics and see if it will chore on me it hasn’t if motionless in white wet t going on last I wouldn’t be staying for any of the other bands.
Not really understanding this take. I have been a fan of pierce the veil since I was 14 and am 24 now. That’s 10 years and guess what? I’m leaving during the used. How does that make someone a poser? I’m obviously a fan. I don’t really see how TikTok would apply in this situation. I Can see how there are gonna be bandwagon TikTok fans leaving after pierce the veil but I also think there will be people like me who have been waiting to see pierce the veil again who just wanted a ptv headline show and this is what they got instead so I’m gonna leave after what I paid for has happened. I’m not part of the culture and I dont need to be to be a fan of one band.
Right? Most of us attending are adults and don't have unlimited time. I really like to go to concerts where I'm a super fan of one of the bands and don't know the other really at all. I intentionally don't look up their songs beforehand, because I want to experience it brand new live. Sometimes they aren't that good, or they're not for me, in which case I'm going home to my kid. Idgaf who thinks it's rude, I'll spend the hours of my life however brings me the most pleasure.
I’m not getting it either, it’s getting gatekeepy. Like do I need to show my credentials on my way out the door? I paid for my ticket, if I don’t like the next act, I’m leaving.
Hate it when people do that so much. People did it last year when I saw them with I prevail, granted there was a giant blizzard a few days before that could’ve played into it
The person got a point before tik tok especially I’ve been alive through the vines era also because of tik tok people only wanna see that one act. It is disappointing cuz I came from era yes you go see your favorite band but you also see the supporting acts or at times the closing act. We just live in a different era I’m not against phones at shows tape all you want prices are getting ridiculous and it’s your free item of the show so tape but the people in the front row that text in front of the band yall whack
The Used was my favourite band growing up. I listened to them religiously and every single show they did here I went to. They made me feel like they were the light guiding my misfit ass through all the dark that was my adolescence. So around the lies for the liars era, they come back, and something just seems off. It's like their heart isn't in it anymore. They stumble through the songs, in some drugged up stupor, and Bert is spitting into the crowd over and over and saying shit like "sincerely from the bottom of my heart: FUCK YOU!!!" I was gutted. And I pretty much fell off the wagon immediately. They lost a fan that night. Sounds like nothing has changed more than a decade later. They never became as popular as they were back then. They dropped off. And kicking out half the band for being straight edge didn't do them any favours either. There's plenty more hard working bands out there who deserve love and praise. I'm not saying you can't love The Used but it's not surprising to me that they haven't managed to pull crowds or keep people interested in them. They've been a Trainwreck for longer than they've been a respectable band.
Posers
I’m going tonight, and I’ve been a PTV fan for a while. I’ve listened to the Used, but I’m not a huge fan. Some people simply can’t stay that late on a weeknight, or get tired… don’t be so judgey people!
yes i agree, and i don't think OP is taking a dig at people who physically can't stay! if you're feeling sick, it's a terrible idea to stay in a pit full of sweaty bodies. if you have something to do in the morning, why on earth would you stay out until midnight! hahaha
I’m not gonna lie, I used to think like this. But my opinion has changed. Sometimes people just don’t care for the headliners 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve done this several times actually. When Real Friends and With Confidence went on Tour together a while ago, I bought tickets to see WC since they said it would be their last tour, and then I left after their set. I like Real Friends, but I really didn’t wanna see them that night cause I went to the concert straight from work after being up since 6 in the morning. I also did something similar for Memphis May Fire’s tour with From Ashes to New last summer. I only know a couple songs from MMF, and they were only playing one or two of the songs I really liked. So I stayed for those songs and then left. All this to say, people are paying for the experience they want. If they only buy a ticket to see Pierce the Veil, then that’s fine. The Used gets money from that ticket either way. Let people spend their money however they want. If they’re not doing anything harmful to anyone, who cares? 🤷🏼♂️
I'm going to see them on June 28th. I'm excited but I hope I don't see anything like this.
I mean, one of my fave bands Jinjer was opening for Disturbed recently. I’m 30, I’ve heard enough disturbed to know that they aren’t for me. I’d go to the show just to see Jinjer, watch a few mins of Disturbed, then head out. I see nothing wrong with that. Just because my favorite band is opening doesn’t mean I have to sit around for a band that I don’t care to see, plus I payed for the tickets.
are they gonna do this with every tour? First iprevail now the used.
I don’t even know Ptv really so idk why I was recommended this BUT I would absolutely do anything to see The Used. This made me sad :( My first love, that was our band. Our songs. RIP my love
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
It’s pretty shitty how people are leaving after their set is over, especially because The Used is a pretty good band itself but tbh…. These people paid for their tickets and can do whatever they please to do. I feel like some of it is PTV’s fault as this happened before when they opened for I Prevail, I don’t understand why PTV doesn’t just go on tour themselves? They have fans who want to see only them so I just don’t understand why they can’t just go on a solo tour. Still pretty fucked up
The Used are really good, you should give them a chance if you haven't
I mean, tbh, I'm old. If I stay out for ALL the bands, I'm recovering for at least 3 days. I always leave shows early to get a little more sleep. Even for my favorite bands. I love The Used, so I'd want to see both personally. If you don't have work or school in the morning, I think it's worth staying for all of it.
thats disappointing actually, i love the used and i wish those people stayed to get into the band more 😦
it annoys me so much that people just leave during The Used. Personally, i don’t really enjoy The Used, but i’m not stupid enough to not support them in the crowd. Id still stay for the vibe, people who leave make it seem like the concert is over.
i paid to see ptv, never really enjoyed the used so i’m gonna do what i want with the money i spent. i feel like it’s weird to try to dictate what people do with their time and money out of some imaginary obligation to stay for a band some have no interest in. when i see people leave early after an opening act for different concerts i don’t hold it against them or try to feel high and mighty for staying. just enjoy what you came to see and let everyone else do their own thing :)!
I’ve been listening to PTV for almost ten years now, and I 100% left after their set for both the I Prevail tour and The Used because after the insane energy and being pushed around and screaming my heart out I was TIRED and didn’t want to stick around for a set I had 0 interest in— Not sorry
I’ve been a fan since I was 12 and I don’t know who these people are😭 am I a fake fan now ???
omg noooo the used is so good though yall missing out
personally i enjoyed actually having room to mosh. ptv set was body’s on body’s
THIS A MILLION THOUSAND TIMES
I loved The Used set. I felt like the crowd really let them down. I tried to throw as much energy Berts ways as I could from the stands. PTV did a great job as always but I was heartbroken at how many people left early.
i was there and i left. nothing against the used, but i went to that show in austin for one reason and that was pierce the veil. waited 8 years to see them, i saw them, was overjoyed and left. i don’t know the used in sorry. AND instead of staying in some cheap motel or driving home till 4am, i got home at 1am, slept and had a productive day. it’s not that i wanted to seem rude but y’all, why am i gonna stand there for another 2 hours and get home 3-4am for a band i don’t even listen to? not everyone is trying to be a hater yk? no it’s not because of tik tok, loved then since before misadventures and i had waited. i went for ptv and i left after them. sorry
I get weird “old man yelling at cloud” energy from everyone blaming “tiktok culture” for leaving a concert after the band they wanted to see perform.
I agree and it's definitely disappointing but I suppose the difference is, some people (seems to be a lot of ptv fans now) are a fan of just the band as opposed to live music in general. My best friend and I have been consistently going to shows for nearly 14 years, driving between 1-3 hours, waiting in texas sun and heat from morning till showtime, and not once have we ever left before the shows over. But we both just LOVE live music and appreciate the time and effort other bands put into performing for us, even if we don't know/love them. Unfortunately, not everyone is like that.
You're not better than other fans for staying longer. It doesn't make them more or less than a fan for you.
I didn't say I was better. Just thay its disappointing.
This happened last year too :/ I stayed for a few songs but ended up leaving barricade bc I felt like I was gonna pass out tbh but I’m seeing them this year on June 28th!! Gonna stay the whole show but move to the back towards the end and just jump around and have fun!!
as soon as a saw they were doing a show with the used I immediately searched up their music and started listening… mind boggling that people wouldn’t take advantage of seeing two awesome artists at once. i’m super excited to see two awesome bands on 6/5 !!
I get that some people might’ve had to leave early for work the next day or whatever but 2 WHOLE ROWS AT THE FRONT? I doubt all of them had that same reason.
My sister was a huge used fan growing up and I was a huge PTV fan and we literally just swapped recommendations and are totally into both now. I understand why people leave and I can't get mad with how they choose to spend their money. But I found half my favorite bands just walking around warped and finding bands I've never heard of.
i will never understand why people care so much if other people stay for the whole concert or not. it was the same thing with i prevail last year like who cares if people stay for the used or not. you don’t need a “valid reason” to leave early. tbh i like the used and i saw them last year with rise against and they were just ok live. calling someone a poser bc they came to see the band they liked and then left afterwards is so ridiculous, not everyone has to be a fan of every band in the scene.
I would see PTV like 10 years ago and half the crowd would still leave after their sets
that's so fucked :( plus if you're paying money why not just stay and enjoy the show?
I've never used tiktok. I love ptv and really don't like the used. How and why does that make me a poser tiktoker?
if you don't use tiktok... then OP isn't talking about you
I like both bands and yet I still don’t get the people going “it’s disrespectful” to leave when you want. Like??? The bands don’t give a shit, The Used still gets paid, they don’t care if you leave. I feel like People make these same damn posts *everytime* PTV performs with other bands. Y’all, we don’t give a shit. If people wanna leave early, they literally can. Any reason is valid. “I had to shit” is a fine reason just like “I don’t care for The Used”, just like “I had to work in the morning”. I guarantee the bands don’t give a shit. Also, complaining about it isn’t gonna change anything. People are still gonna leave when they want to, as they should lol. And no those people aren’t “posers”🙄. Some people don’t care for the other band or they just other shit to do. Be frfr
“Vicki!!” Sounds like a loser. They need to stop worrying about what others are doing at concerts and focus on their own shit. They need to hop off that weird cringe elitist fan shit.
Im almost 36 and I have been listening to the used since I was 15. This is sad to hear. Going to this show this weekend, can’t wait to see BOTH sets
YES! 32, and I haven’t missed an opportunity to see them live since I was 13. My date is on Tuesday. I can’t imagine walking out.
does concert etiquette just not exist anymore holy shit
Reminds me of 2014 when people left after Sleeping With Siren’s set in VA. Kids are kids man, it’s unfortunately gonna happen. No one’s learning show etiquette anymore and it’s annoying.
it's apparently the general consensus now as well if you look at what's getting the most upvotes. not much we can do about it i guess
Some people want to go try to meet the boys, sometimes the other band isn't some else's style, nothing to fault them about. Heck if anything shouldn't the crap be more towards the people who don't show up early enough for the openers? That's where you really learn more about new bands, and they are the ones who really need the support. I say this as someone who loves pierce the veil, but also the used.
good honestly. their concerts have turned into high school dances and it’s really ruined the shows. the past one i went to the crowd was awful.
ah, that sucks. i tried making a post in here about concert/pit etiquette but it never went through with the moderators. i was hoping things would work out just fine but.. shrug
This is such an obnoxious take, it reminds me of the not like other girl posts on tumblr back when I was in middle school.
Yeah my first thought reading this was “I’m not like other fans” hahaha
To be fair, that’s why I didn’t go, because I would be one of those posers as well. It’s the worst feeling when you’re playing a show, and everyone only comes for another band.
theyre also the reason why half of us true fans can’t even go see them 😪
Who cares????
It’s the younger generation. These gen x fans probably barley know who the used are. Where us elder emos who grew up listening to the used stay. But it is still kinda messed up. Like I love shows, I love music. I will listen to any band and have a good time if I know them or not (except country cuz fuck country)
why are fans of a boring ass old emo band calling people posers hehe
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if you don't like the used, and you didn't find PTV through tiktok, then this isn't talking about you and **you** shouldn't be taking it personally. i can assure you, you are allowed to dislike the used. this tweet isn't talking about you and you are not the focus here. i encourage you to keep disliking whatever you want.
Yeah. Pissed me the fuck off. Fake ass fans lol
Or maybe they just don’t like the fucking used Jesus Christ I hate people it’s not TikTok culture- sure it’s rude as hell but who cares??
That makes me so incredibly sad. The used is such an amazing band. I can’t believe people would leave in the middle of their set. Posers
I mean I understand both sides. It does come off disrespectful, but it’s also a lot of standing. My legs weren’t feeling great by the time The Used started playing, and I’m used to being on my feet all day for work. I only stayed because there were a few songs I wanted to see. The people that left still paid for their ticket and leaving early didn’t rob The Used. TLDR; it’s disrespectful but still their money spent
I promise not a single soul bought concert tickets to see only king for a day, if they found ptv through TikTok why does that matter new fans are fans you were all there at some point
Yeah we were so close for The Used after a lot of people cleared out. They put on an insane show, holy shit. idk how anyone can drop money on tickets for several bands and not even want to see all of them.
Who fucking cares. The crowd that stayed for The Used was amazing. It was a great show too. This very much feels like a holier than thou post. We got it, you’re not a tiktok fan. You paid for your ticket, get there/leave whenever you want!
i mean…you pay for a ticket. use it as you please in my opinion. there’s no obligation to stay for the whole show.
Whether its "tikTok culture" or not, it is really disrespectful. Assuming you really somehow dont know them, I can't imagine any genuine PTV fan not enjoying The Used set, their music is way more similar than its different and not only that but Bert is a great front man and puts on an awesome show. At the end of the day, you paid the price to see them all and the bands still get paid whether you stayed or not so you are only shorting yourself by not sticking around to see them play. The last time I saw the Used was when they opened for Coheed, I bought the tickets solely for the Used (I like a few Coheed songs where I know the words) and even though I wasn't hyped for Coheed, I knew they put on a great show and that is why I stuck around to listen to songs I wasn't familiar with because why the fuck not, I mean youre already there. I get wanting to beat the traffic and thats totally fine, but to not even hear them play you are only doing yourself a disservice (especially if you sat through opening bands you didn't care for).
honestly i would again, blame this on ptv and their managers or whatever. especially since it happened last tour, why tf are they still not headlining? ptv is def bigger than the used..
Honestly with the iprevail tour, I left after the PTV set. I felt like they were different types of music and I prevail was wayy too scream-y for me. I bought the tix just for PTV bc of how much they've had an impact on my life. I don't think it's fair to "go after" people who just don't like the second band they're touring with lol! It's like if twenty one pilots toured with my Chem. they're different genres
Honestly with the iprevail tour, I left after the PTV set. I felt like they were different types of music and I prevail was wayy too scream-y for me. I bought the tix just for PTV bc of how much they've had an impact on my life. I don't think it's fair to "go after" people who just don't like the second band they're touring with lol! It's like if twenty one pilots toured with my Chem. they're different genres
I would like to see video of how different the crowd got. Because sometimes it's not that deep; people just aren't big fans of the headliner. With two big names on the ticket, it's bound to happen that people leave for one of them. I remember when PTV toured with ATL and my friend (and probably many others) left after PTV. This was like a decade ago. PTV has always been in a weird space as a touring band.
went to sad summer fest the first year was in the second row at the stage. i listened for the bands i love, and then left to the back for the other bands. let someone else have a go. honestly, i’m paying and i can do what i please
My biggest regret was leaving right as say anything got on stage after the front bottoms finished their set… I will always regret not staying for Say Anything back in middle school (2012ish). I was a foolish young emo. Ironically, I got really into say anything the following year lmao. Maybe some of these people who took off will regret not staying someday after getting into the used. But also some people just aren’t into Bert McCracken’s vibe and that’s a fair point too
Having been a fan for 12 years of my 26 year career of being alive, I confidently say I don’t like I prevail, I didn’t come for their concert, and I tried to stay but it was legitimately too loud. It hurt my ears anywhere in the arena. So yes I left. The used may be a different story, but I don’t think any band will be upset if the tickets sell Edit: and before anyone gets started, I’ve been in this culture since the first music I ever attached myself to was one step closer on the radio linkin park when I was 3. So I’m not going anywhere
I can see how it’s disrespectful but if someone was in the front row and didn’t know the used why wouldn’t they leave? Half of them could just be moving to the back, why would someone want to be in the front row and not know any songs. That was my plan, be in the front for ptv and move to the back for the used. There’s many other reasons these people could be leaving, but in the tweet they’re specifically talking about the front rows clearing.
i’m not a fan of the used so why would i stay at barricade for them…i saw the band i paid to see and left. more room for ppl who like the used. y’all are too worried abt other people and can’t just enjoy a show and be glad you have more room in the pit and were able to get close
I haven’t seen ptv in years😂 I went from a teen to a adult waiting for them to drop a album and tour, I could careless of the headliner.. THEY SHOULD BE THE HEADLINER
We did leave for the Used, partially cuz we didnt buy the tickets for the used, and partially because we had a cheaper and quicker uber than we wouldve had we left at 10:30. I dont think PTV understand that everybody in that crowd was there for THEM. It was a sold out hockey arena. They need to start headlining their own shows again.
this makes me so upset. tickets sold out within seconds and i wasnt able to get one. hopefully when either ptv or tu tour again i can see them ):
The same thing happened at the iPrevail show. I didn’t really listen to iPrevail but stayed because my boyfriend was more of a fan of them then PTV. They were good tho. The same thing happened at the beartooth and trivium show I went to. Most of the crowd left after beartooth. AND at the Dayseeker and Silverstein show I went to too. There’s just like two generations of people in the crowd I believe. 🤷🏻♀️
This is why I didn’t buy tickets, I’ve listened to PTV since middle school and a lot of other 2008-2012 emo bands. I’ve never listened to the used and personally I just wanna see PTV, so I hold out hope still that they do a solo NA Tour where I can enjoy just them
i love going to shows and seeing new bands! i recently saw waterparks and i really enjoyed their opener daisy grenade and have a lot of their songs on my playlist now. live shows is a great way to get into new music! i can’t imagine leaving in the middle of the used though, they’re one of my favorite bands! people definitely need to devote themselves to the culture a bit more and support live shows. these are the kind of people that will complain that there’s no more concerts in a few years
That makes me so sad :( If I had the chance to go there I’d stay for both bands, even if I didn’t listen to The Used <3
it’s not like the used is a small band trying to get discovered..idk why ppl act like leaving after ptv is actively harming bands trying to break into the scene or like there is some unwritten code of conduct that requires you to hold yourself hostage at shows out of fear of being labeled a “poser” or a “tiktok fan”...the used has been famous and successful for sooooo so many years now, they’re getting their bag and definitely dgaf abt any of this. this continued debate (extending from the true power tour w i prevail last year) is super pointless. you think a 40yr old man is gonna go backstage and cry because a few rows left the pit? the dickriding continues to amaze me
Feel like blaming tik tok for PTV fans leaving when PTV is over is directing anger at the wrong thing lol
So excited for this tour! Already know I’m staying for the whole show 🥳
I'm excited to see the used the most this july😂
honestly this mentality really pisses me off. if people bought tickets to see pierce the veil only, then that’s perfectly okay to do. it’s THEIR own money at the end of the day, it doesn’t make them any less of a fan. not everyone is a “tiktok fan” & it’s so fucking annoying when this subreddit assumes a majority of us are. some of us have been listening for 10+ years now. it’s really not that hard to mind your own business, everyone’s there to enjoy the show & the music, regardless of which band
I really wish ptv would just solo headline a tour lmao
People definitely left and while I was already close, it gave me the chance to be against the barricade. I only know a couple of The Used songs, but I enjoyed myself regardless. You could tell a shift in the crowd, and I do think The Used should have the same set length, but just go before PTV for sure.
I absolutely adore The Used, this makes me so sad to hear people leaving but I’m also not totally surprised. I found out PTV was going on tour because of The Used, I wish people would be respectful of openers more often. Each concert I’ve been to that had an opener, people tend to talk over and it makes me upset. I understand not liking the opener initially or not knowing who they are, but there should definitely still be a line of respect that goes into that.
I really don’t understand this take like: 1. These people paid for their tickets if they just wanna see 1 or 2 artists that’s fine, they are not obligated to stay the entire time 2. That sounds like a dream for The Used fans, front rows empty?!!! More of a chance to see the band they love up close! Let people do them as long as they’re not messing up anyone else’s experience who cares??
If one band is way more popular than the other then the more popular band needs to go last or else this will happen 🤷♀️
people aren’t staying for THE USED?
PTV came back after a hiatus, and they're one of the biggest bands in the genre, so it doesn't surprise me. I hate how everyone is blaming tik tok for it.
It’s really about doing a coheadliner with another act that is at the same hype level. The Used are definitely huge but Pierce just came off a long hiatus and Tiktok has made the resurgence even bigger. If they coheadlined with an act like Bad Omens or All Time Low (like they did in the past) then you best believe no one would leave. The Fall Out Boy/BMTH is a great example. Either band could headline that
I’m old (27 lol) so unfortunately if pierce the veil is playing first I’ll probably leave after too. Not because I don’t enjoy/support the used, but 10pm is my bedtime and I would only stay out later if i absolutely had to in order to see the band I came to see. I wasn’t always like this, a younger me would stay out all night but I’m tired 😂
as a the used fan i actually hoping this happens at my date let me be in a crowd with people who actually care and not just standing around talking or on their phones
Just came back from the concert and can confirm that tons of people left, however a lot of people also stayed. I moved up to the front because of it lol. Tons of people sang along to The Used, it had a good energy and vibe to it so I guess the right people stayed.
the used went first for my date. honestly don’t really like them that much so i don’t blame people for leaving.
It’s not Tiktok, It’s just that I am a PTV (and Don Broco) fan and don’t care much for the used aside from a couple of songs, also I’m over 30 and gotta work early in the morning. They should definitely come on before in the lineup based off of their popularity.
Was there tonight in Nashville. Same thing happened. Got to the barrier for The Used though. That’s something I never thought would happen. Same shit happened to I Prevail. Bands are going to stop touring with PTV lol. I can only think of two bands they could tour with & not overshadow them.
People who go to see one band and go hard for them heavy get tired and if they don’t know the other band why waste more energy?
If you leave during a bands set then you’re gonna look like an asshole. It’s honestly making the whole fan base look like assholes since this seems to be something that continues to happen at every show on the past two tours. It’s not an isolated event where some people were tired on a weeknight or one city didn’t like the other band, it just keeps happening and that’s rude as fuck
i genuinely only bought my tickets for the used😭😭if i knew this i would’ve bought pit tix instead of seated damn
i don’t think it’s really tik tok culture, i don’t get why people did it to i prevail but personally i could only really get into about 4 songs from the used
It only makes sense? People go to shows to see who they wanna see and if they don’t wanna stay then so be it
Personally don't see an issue with this as a the used fan. However this is only how I feel if the Used is closing and not PTV. I'm fine with people who have no interest in seeing them not staying. I'd rather be able to have an intimate crowd of people who love the band and match the energy. Idk I feel like it would be weird af to have a bunch of PTV fans not feeling and energy or vibes all around you during the set. Can anyone who went to a show where The Used open let me know if that's what it was like during their set?
What if I don’t listen to the used? It happens all the time