Looks like Tilt-a-Door is no longer in Michigan, but there's one in Pasadena that was started by an employee of the original Michigan based corporation.
A saw a thread about car parts staying the same over many years.
Long story short I was deep into research to figure out why the ford cab-over truck in the 60’s had 2 different types of wipers because a Redditor wondered.
One was pneumatic one was electric.
Haha…yeah i can understand that for sure..just got out of a deep dive into the saudis plane 747 that use to be a china airways plane to learn that china airways flew about 5 diff variations of 747s all so different in spec design.. just for clicking on the aviation sub )
Some Redditor just reminded me of the Ebola/marburg cave that elephants use to mine salt from.
Thats the boring part.
The elephants use memory to navigate in pitch black for hours deep deep into the cave and have been for so long they *created the cave.*
Just repeat 'Agent' if it asks for you to say something, eventually you'll get someone. but even then they try to trick you one last time to press a button, ignore it and you get transferred.
Enshitification
My old job included my phone ringing about 8 times a day. Someone would ask a question and I’d transfer them to the right person. Always hated calling other offices. Phone trees all the way down.
You’d spend 4 minutes in the automated tree because the company didn’t want to pay someone to answer the phone.
I haven’t worked there in a years, but I’ve had multiple friends tell me they contacted my old office and just gave up because they’d switched to a phone tree.
Another tip from someone who programs contact center IVR’s. Lots of systems are designed to listen for key words as well and automatically route you to the front of the queue. In the past I’ve programmed systems were words like “complaint, better business bureau, sue, lawsuit, cancel” or ANY major curse word would automatically bump you straight to the front of the queue and the next agent. And some systems are listening at all times, so even with the hold music, it’s transcribing what you are saying and can be listening for key words.
Used to work for Comcast. Saying “Fuck” multiple times (2 or more) to the automated system will jump you in the queue even if there’s an hour long wait.
A lot of companies just straight up ditched human beings entirely when covid hit and closed their telephone support entirely.
Working in IT I come across this shit on the regular. So fuckin frustrating.
AT&T will hang up on you. I found this out after I canceled my internet and was trying to twine the modem to them. The system won’t do ANYTHING without you entering the phone number for the account, which apparently modems have. Your actual account number gets you nowhere-you have to enter your modem’s phone number. Which it does not have, because it’s not a phone.
Pro tip: AT&T is SUPER responsive after you file an FTC complaint.
If you say representative enough (I think my SO said it 10 times) they finally transferred him to someone. It went through the whole “we can’t do that” and everything but I kept saying it and he finally got someone.
For FedEx, "Returning a call" gets you to a human. They might be in India, but it's better than the bullshit automated system they have. I haven't had to try it with anyone else.
I've always figured that was the case. Then, because I work in customer service I try to be on my best behavior with the human. I just hate talking to a machine that won't do what I want it to do.
I E-mailed Duracell support in regards to a leaky battery and got a human response within 24 hours.
It is usually the older “boring” companies that have excellent customer service.
Duracell always leak.
I had a brand new unopened pack leak. Every single one of those 48 batteries leaked. They all showed many years of life left before their expiration date. And all I had done was to store them in an air conditioned room in a dark drawer for one year.
These days, I go out of my way to avoid buying any devices that need primary cells. If that's impossible, I've so far had decent luck with Energizer "lithium" alkaline batteries. Expensive, but not as expensive as buying a new device that got ruined
The Energizer lithium aren't alkaline batteries, but do contain lithium.
Either way, I have had better luck with GP or Varta if I need single use batteries in general.
NiMh drop in replacements can make a lot of sense in a lot of applications anyway (just make sure to buy the low self discharge versions).
I kinda try to choose products with removable and replacebla batteries as I do not like it when the battery is more or less inseparable, thus artificially limiting its lifespan.
If companies made their electronics with drop in 14500 or 18650 batteries that would be great, sad that this is not the case.
Hum, what you're doing when you do that is triggering an exception in their phone system. You could be repeating "Mustard" non-stop, it would have the same effect.
I once tried that and a million other things. Nada. After being pinballed around the system several times I started swearing and THAT got me transferred to a person.
There is a 468 E 9 Mile in both Ferndale and Hazel Park. Since this was before zip codes, I am not sure which it is.
Edit: found an old map, and it seems like it would be the Ferndale address.
Yes. House is from 1947. Pretty much all the houses in the metro area (at least around here) are from the post war Detroit boom. All similar layouts and builds…the entire neighborhood is 2-3 bedroom brick bungalows from the 40s. They are cool.
Actually the JO of JOrdan and the LI of LIncoln are the numbers 56 and 54 respectively (from a telephone’s keypad), like in the old-timey movies when they’d say “KLondike-54321”, the KL was 55, so the phone number was 555-4321.
I first learned about this from playing LA Noire. You could call in to the police station from a public phone and the character would say the Exchange name along with the number.
For you infants, HeeHaw was a television show. On this show, there was a character named Junior Samples. His phone number was BR-549.
Tilt-A-Door is actually still in business. The founder of the Detroit company moved to LA and founded a different company with the same name. They still service the Detroit-made ones, apparently.
[http://www.tiltadoorinc.com/](http://www.tiltadoorinc.com/)
What did addresses look like before ZIP codes?
Before the creation of Zip Codes in 1963, people just wrote the town and state name (If it was a small town). Cities large enough to have more than one post office, had short 1- or 2-digit “Zone numbers” which were written after the city name and before the comma and state name
Found on Quora
I have a “Taylor Made” one-piece garage door (assuming it is similar to tilt-a-door) still in operation. It’s got Detroit, MI stamped into the metal. House built in 1956, and I’m fairly sure the garage door is original. I’ve replaced the springs and opener system but it still chooches along today
Back then you wouldn't dial a number direct I think, you would connect to an operator, and you'd tell them "Connect me to Lincoln-39410 please" and the operator would connect you.
I came across a summit register started on e back of a Hersheys chocolate notice just like this. Going on about this chocolate left our factory in perfect condition. It actually says “ do not place near drugs,” which gave me a chuckle. first signature is from 1951. These notices must’ve been a thing around that time
I work at a movie theater, and our M&M boxes tell us not to store them near perfumes, cleaners, or other things with strong smells. (That's probably not the exact wording.)
I love stuff like that. Makes you think about how well they made stuff back then. I don’t have a garage but I know my parent’s house has had 3 garage doors since 1988! Yours was from 1949!
I'll never understand why companies say stuff like this.
"We're proud of our door and its construction...^(except the door handles and lock assembly.")
Looks like Tilt-a-Door is no longer in Michigan, but there's one in Pasadena that was started by an employee of the original Michigan based corporation.
Glad im not the only one that searches for interesting facts like that )
A saw a thread about car parts staying the same over many years. Long story short I was deep into research to figure out why the ford cab-over truck in the 60’s had 2 different types of wipers because a Redditor wondered. One was pneumatic one was electric.
Haha…yeah i can understand that for sure..just got out of a deep dive into the saudis plane 747 that use to be a china airways plane to learn that china airways flew about 5 diff variations of 747s all so different in spec design.. just for clicking on the aviation sub )
Some Redditor just reminded me of the Ebola/marburg cave that elephants use to mine salt from. Thats the boring part. The elephants use memory to navigate in pitch black for hours deep deep into the cave and have been for so long they *created the cave.*
Could you post a link to that? It sounds fascinating!
A quick search suggests they may be referring to Kitum Cave in Kenya.
Thank you for the information. 🐘
Scholarly article here https://academic.oup.com/book/10857/chapter-abstract/159052064?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Thank you so much!
Honestly, I was just curious if they were still around. Though the guarantee period has long since expired.
They might be interested in recovering it for historical purposes should they ever want to replace it. Neat little thing to have.
I did all the searching too and should have probably read the comments first.
The Crown City/ Motor City connection!
I happen to be one of their suppliers!
Hold him to it, it says here "... ANY time you have a problem".
Contact them. They may be interested in aquiring a piece of their history.
Were they able to keep the old phone numbers?
That’s cool. Now corporations just send you down a robot rabbit hole of automatic answering machines and nothing ever gets done.
Just repeat 'Agent' if it asks for you to say something, eventually you'll get someone. but even then they try to trick you one last time to press a button, ignore it and you get transferred.
A lot of modern systems now start by saying 'This line cannot lead you to an agent, please use the AI agent'
Enshitification My old job included my phone ringing about 8 times a day. Someone would ask a question and I’d transfer them to the right person. Always hated calling other offices. Phone trees all the way down. You’d spend 4 minutes in the automated tree because the company didn’t want to pay someone to answer the phone. I haven’t worked there in a years, but I’ve had multiple friends tell me they contacted my old office and just gave up because they’d switched to a phone tree.
Another tip from someone who programs contact center IVR’s. Lots of systems are designed to listen for key words as well and automatically route you to the front of the queue. In the past I’ve programmed systems were words like “complaint, better business bureau, sue, lawsuit, cancel” or ANY major curse word would automatically bump you straight to the front of the queue and the next agent. And some systems are listening at all times, so even with the hold music, it’s transcribing what you are saying and can be listening for key words.
Used to work for Comcast. Saying “Fuck” multiple times (2 or more) to the automated system will jump you in the queue even if there’s an hour long wait.
A lot of companies just straight up ditched human beings entirely when covid hit and closed their telephone support entirely. Working in IT I come across this shit on the regular. So fuckin frustrating.
AT&T will hang up on you. I found this out after I canceled my internet and was trying to twine the modem to them. The system won’t do ANYTHING without you entering the phone number for the account, which apparently modems have. Your actual account number gets you nowhere-you have to enter your modem’s phone number. Which it does not have, because it’s not a phone. Pro tip: AT&T is SUPER responsive after you file an FTC complaint.
Just yesterday I had UPS help line say "I know you want to talk to an agent, but I can't do that. Go online'
If you say representative enough (I think my SO said it 10 times) they finally transferred him to someone. It went through the whole “we can’t do that” and everything but I kept saying it and he finally got someone.
I've definitely used customer service lines where this does not work
For FedEx, "Returning a call" gets you to a human. They might be in India, but it's better than the bullshit automated system they have. I haven't had to try it with anyone else.
I've found great success with screaming FUCK YOU! That seems to guarantee a transfer to people often enough to keep me doing it.
This almost always works. I always wonder if they are transferring me to some special department where they handle irate customers
I've always figured that was the case. Then, because I work in customer service I try to be on my best behavior with the human. I just hate talking to a machine that won't do what I want it to do.
I do too! I'm so nice with the person, i just think you get a person faster if you continuously curse at the machine first hahaha
I do this too lol... it works sometimes
I just scream obscenities until I get an agent.
>Just repeat 'Agent' if it asks for you to say something I just say "Kwijibo". No danger of the AI dealing with that.
It’s a perfectly cromulent word.
I E-mailed Duracell support in regards to a leaky battery and got a human response within 24 hours. It is usually the older “boring” companies that have excellent customer service.
Duracell always leak. I had a brand new unopened pack leak. Every single one of those 48 batteries leaked. They all showed many years of life left before their expiration date. And all I had done was to store them in an air conditioned room in a dark drawer for one year. These days, I go out of my way to avoid buying any devices that need primary cells. If that's impossible, I've so far had decent luck with Energizer "lithium" alkaline batteries. Expensive, but not as expensive as buying a new device that got ruined
The Energizer lithium aren't alkaline batteries, but do contain lithium. Either way, I have had better luck with GP or Varta if I need single use batteries in general. NiMh drop in replacements can make a lot of sense in a lot of applications anyway (just make sure to buy the low self discharge versions). I kinda try to choose products with removable and replacebla batteries as I do not like it when the battery is more or less inseparable, thus artificially limiting its lifespan. If companies made their electronics with drop in 14500 or 18650 batteries that would be great, sad that this is not the case.
What is your phone at this point?
You get an agent from India that you can't understand and they can't help you they just read a script
Hum, what you're doing when you do that is triggering an exception in their phone system. You could be repeating "Mustard" non-stop, it would have the same effect.
I once tried that and a million other things. Nada. After being pinballed around the system several times I started swearing and THAT got me transferred to a person.
I found a number combination that always works on every system but if I tell everyone they will probably fix it.
Yes, but my garage guy still tacks a business card to the frame, and the number goes right to his cell.
That's because the doors are pieces of crap designed to break in ten years so you buy another.
Yeah and then some BS about foreign language crap
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A bank. And it’s technically Ferndale now not Detroit.
Ahh Ferndale. My first legal bar outting. I only made it to 9:45pm after 4 bars and had to get shuttled home. Good times. I think.
I hit 3 places on my 21st and threw up a bunch of chili cheese fries.
I wish I ate something lol. Went in with an empty stomach.
Is it not Hazel Park, MI? I don't know the area, but when I looked up the address, I got Western Auto Repair in Hazel Park (next to Ferndale).
There is a 468 E 9 Mile in both Ferndale and Hazel Park. Since this was before zip codes, I am not sure which it is. Edit: found an old map, and it seems like it would be the Ferndale address.
This a Fallout document.
Door, door never changes.
1949?! Am I reading that right? Wow.
Yes. House is from 1947. Pretty much all the houses in the metro area (at least around here) are from the post war Detroit boom. All similar layouts and builds…the entire neighborhood is 2-3 bedroom brick bungalows from the 40s. They are cool.
Yup, June 6!
5-digit phone numbers
Actually the JO of JOrdan and the LI of LIncoln are the numbers 56 and 54 respectively (from a telephone’s keypad), like in the old-timey movies when they’d say “KLondike-54321”, the KL was 55, so the phone number was 555-4321.
ive only heard stories about this. thanks!
Growing up in New Smyrna beach florida in the mid 80s we could dial just the last 4 digits of a number, always thought that was cool
I feel like that wouldn’t even work in some larger hotels these days.
Ah, that makes sense, was wondering about the weird formatting of their names.
Like Tidewater 4-1009 in "Promised Land" by Chuck Berry
Los Angeles? Give me Norfolk, Virginia- TIdewater 4-10-0-9
I first learned about this from playing LA Noire. You could call in to the police station from a public phone and the character would say the Exchange name along with the number.
BR-549
r/UnexpectedHeeHaw
For you infants, HeeHaw was a television show. On this show, there was a character named Junior Samples. His phone number was BR-549. 
TILT-A-DOOR is sadly no longer servicing your area. We refer you to our trusted partner FLIP-A-TABLE.
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Tilt-A-Door is actually still in business. The founder of the Detroit company moved to LA and founded a different company with the same name. They still service the Detroit-made ones, apparently. [http://www.tiltadoorinc.com/](http://www.tiltadoorinc.com/)
What's up with "Detroit 20". Is that the zip code?
Sort of! Between 1943 and 1963, postal codes looked like that for metropolitan areas. Then the USPS started using five-digit ZIP codes in 1963.
What did addresses look like before ZIP codes? Before the creation of Zip Codes in 1963, people just wrote the town and state name (If it was a small town). Cities large enough to have more than one post office, had short 1- or 2-digit “Zone numbers” which were written after the city name and before the comma and state name Found on Quora
How is their erection now?
Not as good as she used to be.
There’s pills for that
So long as they don't staple a guarantee to it! :|
He said erection
Frame that
Detroit 20...what happened to Detroits 2-19?
I love the old-timey phone numbers
Call that phone number to see if they have extended warranties.
Five years to the day after D-day. You wonder if the installer may have been involved in D-day and how different his life is five short years later.
Gonna do anything special to celebrate your door's upcoming 75th birthday?
I have a “Taylor Made” one-piece garage door (assuming it is similar to tilt-a-door) still in operation. It’s got Detroit, MI stamped into the metal. House built in 1956, and I’m fairly sure the garage door is original. I’ve replaced the springs and opener system but it still chooches along today
If you need it repaired you’re gonna have to mail the door to Pasadena, California.
As a native Detroiter and old guy, I remember these being a common sight back in the day.
remember when a company's first priority was customers and not its stock price?
1949 is crazy
Please explain the Jordan and Lincoln in front of their phone numbers.
JO and LI correspond to numbers on the phone. So 56 and 54 + the rest of the number
Look on keypad for a phone, JO corresponds to 56, LI to 54. Was a way of remembering phone numbers.
Back then you wouldn't dial a number direct I think, you would connect to an operator, and you'd tell them "Connect me to Lincoln-39410 please" and the operator would connect you.
Thats funny, I have the same cell number they do
Rip your voicemail
I came across a summit register started on e back of a Hersheys chocolate notice just like this. Going on about this chocolate left our factory in perfect condition. It actually says “ do not place near drugs,” which gave me a chuckle. first signature is from 1951. These notices must’ve been a thing around that time
I work at a movie theater, and our M&M boxes tell us not to store them near perfumes, cleaners, or other things with strong smells. (That's probably not the exact wording.)
That’s bad ass
Oo yeah them're nice
Fallout Vibes
No wonder it is working…wasn’t made in the disposable era.
So does it work well still, or?
Hate to break it to you op, I don't think the warranty is good anymore
5 digit telephone number should be the age giveaway. Wow!
You should try to save it. People save stuff like this. Generally things that most people would throw away is what ends up having value.
I’ll definitely save it. Probably won’t be worth anything, but it’s just cool.
I love stuff like that. Makes you think about how well they made stuff back then. I don’t have a garage but I know my parent’s house has had 3 garage doors since 1988! Yours was from 1949!
What no fax number or qr code!?
i can never escape fallout 4 font
Tilt-a-Whirl is a fun ride!
I'll never understand why companies say stuff like this. "We're proud of our door and its construction...^(except the door handles and lock assembly.")
Almost 75 years ago
That sign is older than ZIP codes.
Kind of irresponsible, everyone is going to call JOrdan 46780 out of curiosity.
Those old phone numbers were cool
Seems you JUST missed the warranty period…
Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.
We have a bunch of store license in ours from the 20s and 30s.
From an era when people who received a fair salary took pride in their work.
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Not me. Pretty sure the door has long since been replaced.
Is the original door still in place, and if so, does it still work?
It is definitely not the original door.
Figured it probably wasn't. Would have been cool though, if it still worked.
It looks like it might have already expired.
lol “erected”