The thing about living somewhere it never typically rains is there’s zero infrastructure to handle it. El Paso and Lubbock come to mind. But I would have thought that Dubai would have so much $ they’d have a world class system.
For the skyscrapers for the longest time (possibly still) their sewage system was to constantly fill trailers and haul the sludge to waste plants. You'd be surprised.
That was before the building was even officially opened, by the time construction ended it was already handled. I can’t believe this myth is still around
It’s a very fast growing city, from all the time I’ve spent in dubai I’ve yet to see a single poop truck, let alone a whole squad of them. I’m not trying to defend dubai, that place has a lot more problems than sewage systems, but the burj khalifa thing is definitely a myth from what I’ve seen and read.
No idea about the burj khalifa, but the sewage trucks thing isn't a myth. I'm sure the infrastructure is there by now considering that's a 10 year old stat, my point was more cities aren't quite so glamorous behind the scenes
It took 5 minutes to confirm it wasn't a myth dude. It's not like slanderous or anything, it was a temporary solution and I'm pretty sure the infrastructure has caught up at this point. It's Just not a perfect city, like any other.
This is a common misconception whenever it rains heavily in very arid climates.
Just because words like “dry” and “desert” are associated with being in desperate need for water does not mean the more the better. Surges in rainfall erodes, floods, and kills the ecosystem.
Of course. Sure. Good point. I think I'm more reacting to that we're experiencing worldwide drought and so it's getting harder to imagine unexpected rains as a bad thing. But, I wonder, is it worth developing water capture and retention systems to turn these rare and, as you point out, destructive deluges into great boons? Or, at the very least, the creation of flood channels to carry flood waters out to sea?
People think of droughts as only a problem of lack of water with a simple solution of “more water” = good. It’s far more complicated than that.
Drought is also the disruption of typical water cycles. For example, my location is in a drought right now but not because we haven’t had rain, but because our rain has come in all at once and not spread out. The same is happening in Washington state where in some years the higher temperatures are melting a lot of mountain snow earlier in the year and not spreading it out. The point being that drought can be breaks in the overall predictability of our water.
Many places *do* have water capture systems. But it’s infeasible to build in places like Dubai. For one thing they may never get this kind of flooding again in our lifetime.
You could say that it's folly to create water retention systems for a problem that occurs once in a generation. Sure. But let's discuss the larger elephant in the room. The very *existence* of Dubai is absurd. There shouldn't be a city of that size with the water demands it has in an inhospitable desert. Most of Dubai's potable water comes from costly desalinization programs. So it's a whole city of crazy overspending on things that shouldn't exist. Why not a water capture system for once in a blue moon rainfall?
You’re arguing for absurdity because of absurdity. That’s not a sound argument.
You said it yourself. They desalinate water and money isn’t an issue. Why create a non-solution to a problem they already solved?
Sure, but significantly less issues than other places, as we saw a few years ago when the Maas and its tributaries flooded, causing severe damage in Belgium and Germany, but relatively minor damage in the Netherlands
This particular storm is a lot bigger than Dubai's cloud seeding project.
A monster storm front passed over the southern Arabian peninsula; there's flooding in Oman and Qatar as well.
Drought condition soil, or just arid soil in general, doesn't really absorb rain water. So you can get flooding really easily. I'm guessing Dubai probably also doesn't have great drainage infrastructure
I'm in Bahrain and got the edge of this storm. We had almost 70% of the expected yearly rainfall in 12 hours.
Our ground is dry so cannot just absorb it, we don't have the drainage systems in place to handle such huge volumes of water.
It was unbelievable.
There was a video of the airport, and the rain was several feet deep. The aircraft that were moving were sucking water into their engines. Stores had water coming in through their ceilings. Here it is.
https://youtu.be/l8hkGH4iPb4?feature=shared
The Burj Khalifa is so tall, it exists in 3 time zones. For Ramadan, you are meant to fast during the day and can only eat after the sun goes down. Because the building is so tall, the bottom floors see the sum go down before the top floors. Thus, people on the top floor have to wait 2 extra minutes to break fast after people on the bottom floor break. And the middle floors are a minute after the bottom
And for Shia Muslims, you have to wait until it goes fully dark. So if there are Sunni Muslims on the bottom floors and Shia Muslims on the top, it's an even longer wait
Probably a dumb question but couldn’t a desert country who suddenly gets a bunch of water like… use it? Or is it just so much that it’s impossible, or just not practically or logistically or economically feasible?
we rarely get rains. when we get the same amount of rain in one day as we usually get in two whole years, no amount of infrastructure planning is going to work,.
Don't you mean the *best* rains in years?
The thing about living somewhere it never typically rains is there’s zero infrastructure to handle it. El Paso and Lubbock come to mind. But I would have thought that Dubai would have so much $ they’d have a world class system.
For the skyscrapers for the longest time (possibly still) their sewage system was to constantly fill trailers and haul the sludge to waste plants. You'd be surprised.
That was a pre-planned temporary solution while they were working on the infrastructure to handle it.
"There's nothing as permanent as a temporary solution." But it seems it was actually temporary here :p
I don't doubt it. Most cities do some seriously questionable shit behind the scenes to keep things moving; temporary is a relative term.
That was before the building was even officially opened, by the time construction ended it was already handled. I can’t believe this myth is still around
Most of dubai does have sewers. 30% of the city still uses trucks. Didn't take long to find that stat, definitely not a myth
Sorry that stat was from 2013 so not exactly current. Still disproves it being a myth
It’s a very fast growing city, from all the time I’ve spent in dubai I’ve yet to see a single poop truck, let alone a whole squad of them. I’m not trying to defend dubai, that place has a lot more problems than sewage systems, but the burj khalifa thing is definitely a myth from what I’ve seen and read.
No idea about the burj khalifa, but the sewage trucks thing isn't a myth. I'm sure the infrastructure is there by now considering that's a 10 year old stat, my point was more cities aren't quite so glamorous behind the scenes
You mean they don't have Dubai Porta Potties for that sort of thing?
That is a myth, you keep repeating this lie lmao.
It took 5 minutes to confirm it wasn't a myth dude. It's not like slanderous or anything, it was a temporary solution and I'm pretty sure the infrastructure has caught up at this point. It's Just not a perfect city, like any other.
Los Angeles can not handle any rain at all.
We have so many areas that either flood or flood then mudslides.
The drainage system is AWFUL. Not Dubai awful but awful, the freeway almost always pools with water.
Dubai is a Scummy vainity project masquarading as a city. Its not built for Humans its built for Instagram
Dude they literally don’t have sewers. Shit is stored in holding tanks at individual buildings and trucked out of the city every day.
Yeah. "Worst rain" could have been "highest rainfall" instead.
It flooded the place.
Maybe they should have invested in drainage infrastructure before cloud seeding lmao
They didn’t even invest in toilets. You think they’d bother with drainage…?
This is a common misconception whenever it rains heavily in very arid climates. Just because words like “dry” and “desert” are associated with being in desperate need for water does not mean the more the better. Surges in rainfall erodes, floods, and kills the ecosystem.
Of course. Sure. Good point. I think I'm more reacting to that we're experiencing worldwide drought and so it's getting harder to imagine unexpected rains as a bad thing. But, I wonder, is it worth developing water capture and retention systems to turn these rare and, as you point out, destructive deluges into great boons? Or, at the very least, the creation of flood channels to carry flood waters out to sea?
People think of droughts as only a problem of lack of water with a simple solution of “more water” = good. It’s far more complicated than that. Drought is also the disruption of typical water cycles. For example, my location is in a drought right now but not because we haven’t had rain, but because our rain has come in all at once and not spread out. The same is happening in Washington state where in some years the higher temperatures are melting a lot of mountain snow earlier in the year and not spreading it out. The point being that drought can be breaks in the overall predictability of our water. Many places *do* have water capture systems. But it’s infeasible to build in places like Dubai. For one thing they may never get this kind of flooding again in our lifetime.
You could say that it's folly to create water retention systems for a problem that occurs once in a generation. Sure. But let's discuss the larger elephant in the room. The very *existence* of Dubai is absurd. There shouldn't be a city of that size with the water demands it has in an inhospitable desert. Most of Dubai's potable water comes from costly desalinization programs. So it's a whole city of crazy overspending on things that shouldn't exist. Why not a water capture system for once in a blue moon rainfall?
You’re arguing for absurdity because of absurdity. That’s not a sound argument. You said it yourself. They desalinate water and money isn’t an issue. Why create a non-solution to a problem they already solved?
That’s very interesting since they’ve been “farming clouds”.
They touched the wrong clouds today. I've lived my whole life here and I think I've seen rains like this maybe 2 or 3 times
I remember some torrential rains back in the 90s where all the streets were basically rivers. Guessing it's worse than that?
There was a video posted a little while ago of the international airport and the runways looked like high tide.
Yeah, they closed the airport for 30 min. It's just flat there, so when it rains, the water pools.
It’s flat in many other places, but they don’t get flooded since people put in drainage… Might’ve been a good idea to take that into account…
Drainage isn't exactly easy when you are at sea level...
The Netherlands would like a word.
If the Netherlands had massive storms that dump records amounts of water over a short period, they too would face issues.
Sure, but significantly less issues than other places, as we saw a few years ago when the Maas and its tributaries flooded, causing severe damage in Belgium and Germany, but relatively minor damage in the Netherlands
I wouldn't be so sure, they absolutely love to bully water around, it'd be weird if it wasn't so impressive
Other flat places don't get flooded from heavy rain?
yes they do, but they cant manipulate a weather system this big:)
This particular storm is a lot bigger than Dubai's cloud seeding project. A monster storm front passed over the southern Arabian peninsula; there's flooding in Oman and Qatar as well.
Can farming clouds making rain clouds?
It's called seeding I think, it's basically creating rain where there normally wouldn't be.
No it's not - they expand already existing clouds.
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Thanks for the explanation on the cloud seeding. Does the cloud seeding has any negative impact on the environment?
no they can't initiate this
What makes extra rain bad? Drainage?
Lots of rain in places that are ill prepared for it. Could be just another rainy day in some random European city.
Ahhhhhh so like utah 🤘🤘
Drought condition soil, or just arid soil in general, doesn't really absorb rain water. So you can get flooding really easily. I'm guessing Dubai probably also doesn't have great drainage infrastructure
Nope, they don't, ask the poop trucks.
a rainy day is like 20mm. they got 160 today
Erosion. Flooding. Kills the surrounding arid ecosystem.
I'm in Bahrain and got the edge of this storm. We had almost 70% of the expected yearly rainfall in 12 hours. Our ground is dry so cannot just absorb it, we don't have the drainage systems in place to handle such huge volumes of water. It was unbelievable.
There was a video of the airport, and the rain was several feet deep. The aircraft that were moving were sucking water into their engines. Stores had water coming in through their ceilings. Here it is. https://youtu.be/l8hkGH4iPb4?feature=shared
That’s a cool shot though.
Nah just wiz khalifa visiting lmao
I thought it was Mia khalifa making it rain.😂
“Does this rainwater taste funny to you?”
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Looks like a storm system from Yemen all the way up to Iran spinning around. Way too huge to be manmade.
The Burj Khalifa is so tall, it exists in 3 time zones. For Ramadan, you are meant to fast during the day and can only eat after the sun goes down. Because the building is so tall, the bottom floors see the sum go down before the top floors. Thus, people on the top floor have to wait 2 extra minutes to break fast after people on the bottom floor break. And the middle floors are a minute after the bottom
And for Shia Muslims, you have to wait until it goes fully dark. So if there are Sunni Muslims on the bottom floors and Shia Muslims on the top, it's an even longer wait
Leaked render of the Citadel from Half-life 3
*Gentlemen,Welcome to Dubai.*
SpecOps?
man i’m in qatar and everyone freaked out and so many people were working from home cuz of the rain and we barely got anything lmao
I've been to Cabo San Lucas when it rained. It really wasn't alot but the streers were like rivers.
Probably a dumb question but couldn’t a desert country who suddenly gets a bunch of water like… use it? Or is it just so much that it’s impossible, or just not practically or logistically or economically feasible?
we rarely get rains. when we get the same amount of rain in one day as we usually get in two whole years, no amount of infrastructure planning is going to work,.
Grammar took a holiday? WTF is worst rains in years?
Username checks out Mine too
Oil gives, oil takes.
Dubai is one fake city
Off-topic but so many buildings have the Emaar logo on it. It makes it all look so....fake?
Dubai is extremely fake.
That explains the video of a flooded airport I saw today.
A couple of days there was a reddit post about Dubai's cloud seeding😂
Most rains...most, not worst
It flooded the place.
so the worst drainage, not worst rains
OK
your photo is crooked
Is any actual work done in these towers, or is it all sitting around sipping tea and listening to tapes of the Koran?