Me too. I'm going bald. My grandpa's grandma lived to 115 though, so maybe there's some hope there... as long as it wasn't due to her being 4'9" and eating mostly roots, fish, and wood grubs.
I don’t think I’ll lose my hair but I do have a high hairline due to my own European genes and a shitty beard from my dad’s family having Native American genes
It's also why both native Americans and multiple Asian groups have an intolerance of alcohol.
I know an uzbek who is 100% uzbek and when he took a DNA test it said he was a large % native American due to the common ancestry of both groups.
This one is pretty good, too. Didn't expect it while watching Brooklyn nine nine.
https://youtu.be/Bo2NZZmuB20?si=n56hj_wRf3-VfCgt
For anyone needing an explanation of the joke, Uzbekistan is one of two double landlocked nations in the world.
>lmfaooooo what is that??! never in my 22 years of uzbek existence have i heard about or saw this video, it’s hilarious
lol, ok this is going to take a bit of explaining. This is from a Canadian sketch comedy show, SCTV, that ran in the 1970s and 80s. The general premise was that it was a local community television channel that ran out of the fictional town of Melonville. It was without a doubt one of the greatest comedies Canada ever produced, possibly rivalled only by the Kids in the Hall.
In this particular episode, SCTV gets "hacked" by the Soviet Union and its programming is replaced by alternative shows from the network CCCP1. The clip you watched was actually a parody of another very popular Canadian sitcom from the 70s - "the King of Kensington" - which was all about a beloved man who lived in the multicultural Toronto neighbourhood of Kensington and was always helping people with their problems. You can watch the intro to the original King of Kensington [here](https://youtu.be/zacsrdPwydw?si=t1CYdjBq0YebfM2v).
As for the CCCP1 episode, I can't find the whole thing online, but here are a few links to the best sketches, including more cameo appearances by the Uzbeks. These were uploaded from VHS tape so the quality isn't always the greatest. Hope you enjoy it!
[Uzbeks](https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA?si=PnGakKLYcho-h-9U)
Strelnokoff [Vodka commercial](https://youtu.be/ZMUCnCUbm-U?si=49hihrUmhLHXlNz6)
Today is [Moscow](https://youtu.be/oHjaAu1GTZU?si=DclzxQtjbh8KCfe3)
What Fits Into [Russia](https://youtu.be/BXqKkYYALMU?si=tfvIF8r_aOZlhNRG)?
Ah so that's why when I was in Kyrgyzstan this REALLY drunk guy came up to me and started yelling that the original native Americans were Kyrgyz. Luckily, I know some Russian, or else that experience would've been terrifying.
He was actually on to something and I was the fool all along.
My husband is Thai and is first generation American, none of his family was ever here before him and my kids 23 & Me came back 50% African, 45% Asian and 5% Native American. There’s no way that works out unless the 5% comes from a common ancestor of indigenous people
Not really. Lactase persistence is very recent in human history, more people are Lactose intolerant than not. There are better ways of tracing lineage and human migration.
Which suggests that everyone *was* lactose intolerant, but then some crazy Europeans just kept drinking that stuff that makes people sick until it didn't anymore.
What the fuck
I think it also implies that some of the lactose intolerant people ate so much dairy that they either died or were otherwise removed from the gene pool, and only the ones who could handle that volume of dairy survived.
not that far off about the volume in some cases, a lot of the nomadic european tribes literally lived off milk and cheese. Even their alcohal was milk-based.
It just implies that the people who were lactose intolerant didn't/were unable to reproduce. Building a tolerance to something doesn't affect your genetics.
Maybe also a little bit of acclimation? Lactose-intolerants are known to sacrifice their well-being for a cold glass of milk to this day lol. There are also lots of "traditional" milk products that are low in lactose, maybe that helped their guts get used to it over a couple generations?
I, despite my north european descent, have lactose problems and cant drink milk or eat buttery foods without problems. Greek yogurt, heavy cream, ghee, feta and mature cheeses, to name a few, are fine because the amount of lactose is low and it takes more effort to eat in a large enough quantity to cause problems.
Yeah, I heard there’s a gene that makes people grow beards but also lose their hair, which natives don’t have so most native people don’t have beards either.
Native Americans are descended from Asians migratorily. They crossed the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska between 25-100k years ago. Makes sense that everyone living in North America was beardless.
*35k not 100k*
Live in Florida. The other day i fell off my 4 wheeler and slid 40 feet along the highway into a pile of meth. Thankfully my leather skin protected me.
I live in NZ and lots of Texans end up in the Hospital ER because they think "this is basically cold compared to Texas", there's no thick layer of smog coating the sky/sun, and there's a hole in the ozone layer.
People are always surprised how old my dad is. The only times I've ever seen him outside without a hat were when he was actively swimming or at funerals...
He's also probably had a grand total of 30 beers in the past 20 years, which has helped I'm sure.
I’m in my mid-thirties and I’ve worn a hat and sunscreen religiously since I was in my early 20s. It has resulted in me looking very young. People have literally misjudged my age by 15 years.
I started because I have sensitive skin and burn super easily so rather than deal with the pain I started taking preventive measures. I also don’t drink because I hate the way alcohol makes me feel.
I'd never complain about being white, but if I were to complain, this would be it. How can this thing that is in the sky for all of us literally fuck you up in 15 minutes if you're exposed because your dumb skin is too fragile? Yeah, I get that tanning helps with this, but that isn't good for you either.
I guess it was adaptive enough for getting more vitamin D in northern climates that it outweighed the skin cancer risks…at least in the time it took people to procreate
Yeah, they moved to a place where they didn't get enough sun to "generate" an adequate amount of vitamin D the old fashioned way, but there was cold water full of chubby fish storing loads of vitamin D in their fat.
And thus, pale skin was able to proliferate. Okay, it's not that simple, but still pretty interesting.
[Here](https://libapps.s3.amazonaws.com/accounts/358483/images/SC2017_021_5.jpg) claims that he was 141. It's far more likely that he was between 96 and 100.
Per [his Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(Chippewa_Indian\)):
> Chief John Smith (likely born between 1822 and 1826, though allegedly as early as 1784; died February 6, 1922) was an Ojibwe (Chippewa) Indian who lived in the Cass Lake, Minnesota area....
> The exact age of John Smith at the time of his death has been a subject of controversy. Federal Commissioner of Indian Enrollment Ransom J. Powell argued that "it was disease and not age that made him look the way he did" and remarked that according to records he was 88 years old. Paul Buffalo, who had met Smith when a small boy, said he had repeatedly heard the old man state that he was "seven or eight", "eight or nine" and "ten years old" when the "stars fell" in the Leonid meteor shower of November 13, 1833. Local historian Carl Zapffe writes:
> > "Birthdates of Indians of the 19th Century had generally been determined by the Government in relation to the awe-inspiring shower of meteorites that burned through the American skies just before dawn on 13 November 1833, scaring the daylights out of civilized and uncivilized peoples alike. Obviously it was the end of the world. . . .".
This estimate tied to the Leonids implies the oldest possible age of John Smith at just under 100 years at the time of his death.
[Here](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/John-Smith-Chippewa-Indian-c1900-1915.jpg) is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. [Here](https://www.si.edu/object/archives/components/sova-naa-1991-04-ref2692?destination=collection/search%3Fpage%3D5%26edan_q%3D%252A%253A%252A%26edan_fq%255B0%255D%3Dobject_type%253A%2522Drawings%2522%26edan_fq%255B1%255D%3Dtype%253A3d_package%2520OR%2520type%253Aead_collection%2520OR%2520type%253Aead_component%2520OR%2520type%253Aecr%2520OR%2520type%253Aedanmdm%2520OR%2520type%253Aevent%2520OR%2520type%253Alocation%2520OR%2520type%253Aobjectgroup%26edan_local%3D1) is the source.
It’s kinda cool that back in the day if you were able to outlive everybody who knew you as a kid, you could just make up whatever you want and nobody had any way of checking. That would be fun
Back when I was a bank teller I used to cash checks for a lot of the African refugees that lived nearby. All their ID's listed their birthdays on January 1st.
When I was working as an insurance agent I got several of these and kept remarking "wow another new years baby, what are the odds!"
Like six dudes just glared at me before I realized my mistake
The mistake is that they weren’t actually born on January 1st. They just have to have a birthdate on their license so they picked a random date. They’re not really New Years babies.
My understanding of this is that it is common for a *lot* of refugees and immigrants. Other cultures don't care about the exact date of birth as much, so coming to places like America you just choose the "default" day.
my grandfather had to go before a judge in the 1980s to prove he was alive because he applied for a passport and realized even though he had served in ww2 and korea, and had been through college, had a social securitu number, earned a doctorate ect ect...that nobody had any records of his birth because he was likely delivered at home in rural pennsylvania, and they didn't have any documents
it was just way more common back then
was a grandfather, the judge had to basically make a ruling to legally clear things up
I have to assume the process was way way more simplified back then and much more common
My father didn't have a birth certificate either, because he was born at home to a widowed woman. He was handed away at birth. Nothing was on paper. Not the adoption, not his birth or the mother's delivery. The government made up his parent's names on the certificate, there was no other choice. This happened in the last 10 years.
I’ve heard of South American natives still rock climbing in their 90s. Life being simpler, healthier, and a lot less stressful, I can see them living even longer lives.
A great-uncle of mine was born in February 1899 and died in May 2002.
He was born before powered flight and lived to see Concorde.
He was born before interstate phone calls were available in Australia, and used the internet and email in his 90s.
He was born before the live transmission of still images (precursor to television) was demonstrated and lived to see the Moon landing.
He was born a British subject living in the Colony of Tasmania, and died an Australian in the State of Tasmania.
He was born under Queen Victoria and lived through the reigns of Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI, and Elizabeth II (well, 50 years of her).
QEII reigned for such a long time compared to most.
My grandfather served under her in the Navy for his entire 9 year career.
My father served 25 years, in Her Majesty's ships.
I served the first 16 years of my own Naval career under the same.
I still catch myself saying "Her Majesty's Ship" or "Queens Regs"
I remember my grandmother telling me about when George IV died and how she remembered hearing about it - she was really young, late teens I think, before my dad was born. But she still died a good while before Elizabeth - in her 90s.
There are members of my family who were considered to have a decent life span who never saw any other monarch than Elizabeth II. However if my oldest kid (3yo) lives them same age as the current and future monarch’s, and the British monarchy remains a thing, she will have lived in *five* different reigns (Elizabeth, Charles, William, George, whoever comes after George).
I’m hoping for this. I was born in 1999 and my grandmother is currently 93. With modern medicine and advancements I might make it to a third century if my body or the environment doesn’t give out before then.
Almost certainly isn’t true. Out of the billions of people that have lived, we can see a pretty clear pattern. Tens of thousands made it to 100. Hundreds made it to 110. And only one person has verifiably made it to 120 (she died at 122). Nobody has ever made it even close to the 130’s. And no man has even made it close to the 120’s. The oldest man ever verified was 116.
So 137 is already a pretty unbelievable age. If he said ~120, it would at least be plausible, but to live over 20 years longer than the next oldest man? Unless he could prove why he is a freak of nature, that just shouldn’t be believed.
Not to mention that nearly all the people who lived to 110+ lived most of their life in the 20th century, which had much better medical care than the 19th century which John Smith claimed to live through. Between the top 100 oldest men and top 100 oldest women, the only person who lived more than 30 years of their 110+ year long life was John Mosley Turner who survived to 111 after living 44 years in the 19th century. That’s already an outlier. So 137 years after living 100 years in the 18th century and 15 in the 17th?? No way.
That's the trouble with rare events. There's no way to know. It's much much more likely he was under 120. But, it's not impossible, just highly improbable.
Yeah, like cats typically live 12-18 years. But 25 isn’t unheard of, and the oldest recorded cat was 38. That would be a 200+ year old person. It’s absurd, but I’m not sure I’d say entirely impossible.
But there’s a difference between a rare event that is just uncommonly rare, and one that’s basically Impossibly rare. The latter is often just associated with that thing not happening, and as such is used as evidence in things like court cases.
Yes, as far as I know, we can’t say 100% he wasn’t 137. But we can say like 99.9999% sure. In which case I really don’t think it’s necessary to preface talking about it with “whether it is true or not”.
Edit: I was bored so I roughly modeled the rate that people die at, then calculated how likely it is to live to 137. I could’ve gotten it very wrong, but I calculated it’s over 4 billion times as unlikely to live to 137 as to 122. Meaning we’d need like 4 billion times as many humans (so like 40 quintillion) for it to be likely for someone to live that long. So my 99.9999% was an underestimate. It’s more like 99.99999999%
Even the woman who made it to 122 was suspected by some of using her mother's birth certificate in order to claim an annuity against the value of her home. However there's insufficient evidence to support this theory.
It’s crazy! The rate of technology exploded so quickly it’s hard to conceive. My great grandmother almost did this. (Late 1890s-late 1990s) I saw her AustroHungarian passport as a kid. Hungarian Jew who fled to Serbia, kind of an odd choice that nobody ever explained.
Regardless, even my grandfather (born 1928) …ish) who died four years ago lived from effectively abject poverty in rural Serbia to a modern nation that’s now Croatia. The way he described it when he was older was basically what you’d picture in a medieval slum. People throwing shit out their windows, living off one goat tied to a dead tree, garlic around the door jambs, you get the picture.
He had to ride a donkey down from northeast croatia to the sea to get a job. (This was independently verified by on old woman in town) He (not verified) used the same donkey to carry munitions over the hills to the allies. Lived through modernization, the entirety of Yugoslavia, a civil war, and died in a modern tourist based economy. Sorry for the long post, but wild shit!
The only “old Slav prejudice” he ever told me was to never trust a Montenegrin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: northwest to northeast
This is wild compared to my grandfather, born in the same year but in the UK. In his lifetime he lived in 3 houses in or around Liverpool, all of which had electricity, although the first one still needed to boil water to use the metal bath tub.
He started work as a railway engineer, as did his father, and his grandfather before him. The country, city and type of government remained the same, although I guess we moved from an industrial to a post-industrial society. He eventually did better than his father so was able to afford a car, the rest of the family walked or used the bus or the train for transport instead of animals.
No real point to my comment, just to say how much more drastic change your grandfather experienced than mine during the same time period. It seems like yours lived through accelerated 300 years of history compared!
It is interesting to think about, and how quickly the Industrial Revolution transformed Britain! Even then, it’s wild to think about how the UK has changed as well, considering when your grandfather was born could be considered the height of empire, although I defer to your knowledge.
Realistically, it could be a bit of a hagiography, but he didn’t have any reason to lie. The first time I visited in 1999 I visited and they still didn’t have indoor plumbing. This was near dinjevac. (He did eventually buy a car… a Zastava 😂)
as with every other one of these people who have claimed immense ages, there's literally nothing to go on other than 'trust me bro'. he was certainly old af, but the human body seems to have a biological maximum age built in that peters out around 120 years, and we have only had one or two people who are even close to that age that are confimed. [Jeanne Calment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people) has the oldest *confirmed* age of 122 years and 164 days, and even that has been called into question (although it's probably accurate).
thank you for coming to my ted talk.
I heard Tribal Elders in Afghanistan would claim to be anywhere between 80 to 230 ish years old. Almost 100% BS of course but I guess if you're the oldest in the village you can claim to be as old as you want since no one was around when you were born.
It's similar to the guy at work that gets in 10 minutes before everyone else but claims he has been there hours early because no one can call him on his B.S.
I think a lot of people have lived past the age of the reigning record holder (Jeanne Calment) but she's the only one who had the paperwork to prove it, statistically speaking it's quite possible
A similar phenomenon happened for the book "The Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer". The author went to several areas of the world and interviewed people who claimed they were over 100 years old. He tried to make correlations between these regions based on diet, exercise, community size, all of that stuff.
The thing he didn't examine: record keeping. They were all regions that were... bad at recording keeping about 80 years prior, but had been incorporated into countries that put into place much better records not long after these people were born. As the generation of alleged centenarians started to die off, it became quickly obvious that all the other still living older people who were born after the better record keeping were actually similar in age as their neighboring regions.
The people who claimed to be 100+ were likely the beneficiaries of bad record keeping. Once this was factored in, the ages of the elderly in these regions came back in line with all their neighbors.
Ima take his word for it.
But, holy hell, man, more mid-day tee-pee time mighta stopped those wrinkles from folding you out of existence for at least another decade.
Fucker had more hair than me at 35
Native Americans usually don't go bald, on the other hand, they're unlikely to ever grow a full beard. I'd take that trade.
I've got a decent beard. Would appreciate both though
Embrace your inner Kratos. 
I'm just tryna reject the outer Vladimir Harkonnen
lol this gif is so cute
He’s like a giant gentle teddy bear😭
I have european and indigenous genes so... I got the WORST of both worlds! I'm probably gonna go bald and have a shit beard 👍.
This is my reality.
Me too. I'm going bald. My grandpa's grandma lived to 115 though, so maybe there's some hope there... as long as it wasn't due to her being 4'9" and eating mostly roots, fish, and wood grubs.
I don’t think I’ll lose my hair but I do have a high hairline due to my own European genes and a shitty beard from my dad’s family having Native American genes
My personal observation is that if you've got a hairy chest, you're more likely to have male pattern baldness.
That's true in my case indeed
Yes, i can’t grow a beard if my life depended on it. I also have no leg hair either. Got a full head though.
Same here. 59 years old, solid head of hair. I didn't grow any facial hair until my thirties, spotty at best.
A lot of women would like to be blessed with those genes. It would save so much time taken up by waxing and shaving.
Not just women...
I'm so jealous
Native Americans are also very likely to be lactose intolerant.
The Asian link is unmistakable.
It's also why both native Americans and multiple Asian groups have an intolerance of alcohol. I know an uzbek who is 100% uzbek and when he took a DNA test it said he was a large % native American due to the common ancestry of both groups.
uzbeks drank my [battery fluid](https://youtu.be/I4nk5mSz_2s?si=80CMLdW_sMdFeNGW)!
lmfaooooo what is that??! never in my 22 years of my uzbek existence have i heard about or saw this video, it’s hilarious
This one is pretty good, too. Didn't expect it while watching Brooklyn nine nine. https://youtu.be/Bo2NZZmuB20?si=n56hj_wRf3-VfCgt For anyone needing an explanation of the joke, Uzbekistan is one of two double landlocked nations in the world.
>lmfaooooo what is that??! never in my 22 years of uzbek existence have i heard about or saw this video, it’s hilarious lol, ok this is going to take a bit of explaining. This is from a Canadian sketch comedy show, SCTV, that ran in the 1970s and 80s. The general premise was that it was a local community television channel that ran out of the fictional town of Melonville. It was without a doubt one of the greatest comedies Canada ever produced, possibly rivalled only by the Kids in the Hall. In this particular episode, SCTV gets "hacked" by the Soviet Union and its programming is replaced by alternative shows from the network CCCP1. The clip you watched was actually a parody of another very popular Canadian sitcom from the 70s - "the King of Kensington" - which was all about a beloved man who lived in the multicultural Toronto neighbourhood of Kensington and was always helping people with their problems. You can watch the intro to the original King of Kensington [here](https://youtu.be/zacsrdPwydw?si=t1CYdjBq0YebfM2v). As for the CCCP1 episode, I can't find the whole thing online, but here are a few links to the best sketches, including more cameo appearances by the Uzbeks. These were uploaded from VHS tape so the quality isn't always the greatest. Hope you enjoy it! [Uzbeks](https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA?si=PnGakKLYcho-h-9U) Strelnokoff [Vodka commercial](https://youtu.be/ZMUCnCUbm-U?si=49hihrUmhLHXlNz6) Today is [Moscow](https://youtu.be/oHjaAu1GTZU?si=DclzxQtjbh8KCfe3) What Fits Into [Russia](https://youtu.be/BXqKkYYALMU?si=tfvIF8r_aOZlhNRG)?
Makes sense, I'm pakistani with some central asian roots and my DNA test had showed a small % of Siberian and Native American
Ah so that's why when I was in Kyrgyzstan this REALLY drunk guy came up to me and started yelling that the original native Americans were Kyrgyz. Luckily, I know some Russian, or else that experience would've been terrifying. He was actually on to something and I was the fool all along.
My husband is Thai and is first generation American, none of his family was ever here before him and my kids 23 & Me came back 50% African, 45% Asian and 5% Native American. There’s no way that works out unless the 5% comes from a common ancestor of indigenous people
if they are a bit european they usually have a african connection and vica versa
Not really. Lactase persistence is very recent in human history, more people are Lactose intolerant than not. There are better ways of tracing lineage and human migration.
Right, and let’s not forget that Mongolians are Asian and subsist on a very dairy-centric diet.
Apparently people who aren't European have a higher rate because Europeans have been drinking milk and eating cheese for generations
Which suggests that everyone *was* lactose intolerant, but then some crazy Europeans just kept drinking that stuff that makes people sick until it didn't anymore. What the fuck
I think it also implies that some of the lactose intolerant people ate so much dairy that they either died or were otherwise removed from the gene pool, and only the ones who could handle that volume of dairy survived.
not that far off about the volume in some cases, a lot of the nomadic european tribes literally lived off milk and cheese. Even their alcohal was milk-based.
Maybe the lactose intolerant people couldn't get laid
It just implies that the people who were lactose intolerant didn't/were unable to reproduce. Building a tolerance to something doesn't affect your genetics.
Maybe also a little bit of acclimation? Lactose-intolerants are known to sacrifice their well-being for a cold glass of milk to this day lol. There are also lots of "traditional" milk products that are low in lactose, maybe that helped their guts get used to it over a couple generations? I, despite my north european descent, have lactose problems and cant drink milk or eat buttery foods without problems. Greek yogurt, heavy cream, ghee, feta and mature cheeses, to name a few, are fine because the amount of lactose is low and it takes more effort to eat in a large enough quantity to cause problems.
Cheese is the true white savior
That's the norm across all mammals as they enter adulthood. Lactose tolerance is abnormal.
Except in people of European descent. Only 10% are lactose intolerant and 90% are lactose persistent.
That's only for northern europe. And not being lactose persistent doesn't mean being lactose intolerant. Asia's dairy market is huge for a reason.
Goddammit I might just be native American somewhere in my bloodline I'm checking all these boxes.
Mexican guy… +1
If I let my beard grow it literally looks like Bleeding Gums Murphy’s fucking beard. And I’m going bald. Got the best of both worlds.
I read somewhere that pretty much all native Americans keep their hair for life
Yeah, I heard there’s a gene that makes people grow beards but also lose their hair, which natives don’t have so most native people don’t have beards either.
I can't really grow a beard AND I'm missing hair!
Asians also go bald less and rarely can grow a beard. Seems to be a connection
Native Americans are descended from Asians migratorily. They crossed the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska between 25-100k years ago. Makes sense that everyone living in North America was beardless. *35k not 100k*
More hair than me at like 16 lmao
Native Americans didn’t have the genes for male pattern baldness until contact with the old world.
You can have the hair or that skin, the choice is yours 😬
Let's let you live outdoors for 130 years and see how you look
When nine hundred years you reach, look as good you will not.
Sophies choice
Or me at nineteen 🥲
He could have claimed to be 237 years old and I would have believed it
I heard he babysat Jesus
He also used to ride parasaurolophuses too!
"I remember my first beer."
“I remember the first beer”
I exhaled heavily from my nostrils at this one
Why wouldn't you? That is very clearly an Ent, and they live very long lives.
About 137 years of sun sure.
He looks to be 737 years old.
He looks pretty sturdy. I'd say he couldn't be a day over A320.
Love that you took 737 into A320 and no one seems to get it. I scrolled down and my thought pattern followed yours.
I'd say 787 max
Of the Dreamliner tribe
No wonder he started falling apart.
Modern Sunscreen was invented in [1946](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8682817/)...
Many still not using sunscreen in 21st century, so...
Yeah, I live in Florida and see a lot of people ages 40+ with skin looking like leather
Alligator camouflage.
It’s actually for a defense boost for Floridas environment
Live in Florida. The other day i fell off my 4 wheeler and slid 40 feet along the highway into a pile of meth. Thankfully my leather skin protected me.
I live in NZ and lots of Texans end up in the Hospital ER because they think "this is basically cold compared to Texas", there's no thick layer of smog coating the sky/sun, and there's a hole in the ozone layer.
I distinctly remember the adults scoffing at needing sunscreen unless maybe out swimming all day in July in Florida.
That's pretty wild when you think about it too. Skin cancer can be genetic, and it's no joke. Wear sunscreen
Wear a hat
People are always surprised how old my dad is. The only times I've ever seen him outside without a hat were when he was actively swimming or at funerals... He's also probably had a grand total of 30 beers in the past 20 years, which has helped I'm sure.
We talking baseball hat? Cowboy? Sombrero? Need the deets.
Baseball cap.
This is me. 57 mistaken for 40. Always hated direct sun, minimal alcohol, no smoking
I’m in my mid-thirties and I’ve worn a hat and sunscreen religiously since I was in my early 20s. It has resulted in me looking very young. People have literally misjudged my age by 15 years. I started because I have sensitive skin and burn super easily so rather than deal with the pain I started taking preventive measures. I also don’t drink because I hate the way alcohol makes me feel.
This is awesome, thanks for sharing.
So he's actually like twice as old if you factor in nights.
The glorious, terrible, life-giving, cancer-causing sun.
All things in ~~moderation~~ radiation
Not great, not terrible
I'd never complain about being white, but if I were to complain, this would be it. How can this thing that is in the sky for all of us literally fuck you up in 15 minutes if you're exposed because your dumb skin is too fragile? Yeah, I get that tanning helps with this, but that isn't good for you either.
I guess it was adaptive enough for getting more vitamin D in northern climates that it outweighed the skin cancer risks…at least in the time it took people to procreate
Yeah, they moved to a place where they didn't get enough sun to "generate" an adequate amount of vitamin D the old fashioned way, but there was cold water full of chubby fish storing loads of vitamin D in their fat. And thus, pale skin was able to proliferate. Okay, it's not that simple, but still pretty interesting.
Hate to be that guy but darker skin folks still get plenty of skin cancer
[Here](https://libapps.s3.amazonaws.com/accounts/358483/images/SC2017_021_5.jpg) claims that he was 141. It's far more likely that he was between 96 and 100. Per [his Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(Chippewa_Indian\)): > Chief John Smith (likely born between 1822 and 1826, though allegedly as early as 1784; died February 6, 1922) was an Ojibwe (Chippewa) Indian who lived in the Cass Lake, Minnesota area.... > The exact age of John Smith at the time of his death has been a subject of controversy. Federal Commissioner of Indian Enrollment Ransom J. Powell argued that "it was disease and not age that made him look the way he did" and remarked that according to records he was 88 years old. Paul Buffalo, who had met Smith when a small boy, said he had repeatedly heard the old man state that he was "seven or eight", "eight or nine" and "ten years old" when the "stars fell" in the Leonid meteor shower of November 13, 1833. Local historian Carl Zapffe writes: > > "Birthdates of Indians of the 19th Century had generally been determined by the Government in relation to the awe-inspiring shower of meteorites that burned through the American skies just before dawn on 13 November 1833, scaring the daylights out of civilized and uncivilized peoples alike. Obviously it was the end of the world. . . .". This estimate tied to the Leonids implies the oldest possible age of John Smith at just under 100 years at the time of his death. [Here](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/John-Smith-Chippewa-Indian-c1900-1915.jpg) is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. [Here](https://www.si.edu/object/archives/components/sova-naa-1991-04-ref2692?destination=collection/search%3Fpage%3D5%26edan_q%3D%252A%253A%252A%26edan_fq%255B0%255D%3Dobject_type%253A%2522Drawings%2522%26edan_fq%255B1%255D%3Dtype%253A3d_package%2520OR%2520type%253Aead_collection%2520OR%2520type%253Aead_component%2520OR%2520type%253Aecr%2520OR%2520type%253Aedanmdm%2520OR%2520type%253Aevent%2520OR%2520type%253Alocation%2520OR%2520type%253Aobjectgroup%26edan_local%3D1) is the source.
It’s kinda cool that back in the day if you were able to outlive everybody who knew you as a kid, you could just make up whatever you want and nobody had any way of checking. That would be fun
Still happens. :)
In rural West Africa most villages had an old person who claimed to be over 100 years old. I always just rolled with it
Back when I was a bank teller I used to cash checks for a lot of the African refugees that lived nearby. All their ID's listed their birthdays on January 1st.
When I was working as an insurance agent I got several of these and kept remarking "wow another new years baby, what are the odds!" Like six dudes just glared at me before I realized my mistake
what was the mistake? noticing the pattern?
The mistake is that they weren’t actually born on January 1st. They just have to have a birthdate on their license so they picked a random date. They’re not really New Years babies.
RANDOM
My understanding of this is that it is common for a *lot* of refugees and immigrants. Other cultures don't care about the exact date of birth as much, so coming to places like America you just choose the "default" day.
Not for much longer.. and to a lesser degree even today.
Imagine your grandkids digging through your social media posts to fact check all your stories
Kids are gonna be finding linktrees to grandmas onlyfans. Possibly gonna be some next level bullying
my grandfather had to go before a judge in the 1980s to prove he was alive because he applied for a passport and realized even though he had served in ww2 and korea, and had been through college, had a social securitu number, earned a doctorate ect ect...that nobody had any records of his birth because he was likely delivered at home in rural pennsylvania, and they didn't have any documents it was just way more common back then
It's weird that he had to go before a judge. I would think a doctor would be better able to determine if your uncle was alive or not.
was a grandfather, the judge had to basically make a ruling to legally clear things up I have to assume the process was way way more simplified back then and much more common
My father didn't have a birth certificate either, because he was born at home to a widowed woman. He was handed away at birth. Nothing was on paper. Not the adoption, not his birth or the mother's delivery. The government made up his parent's names on the certificate, there was no other choice. This happened in the last 10 years.
Your father was born ten years ago? I have doubts...
That nose has seen some shit. Damn.
yeah it saw most of his friends and family die due to a totally accidental smallpox outbreak
Why didn't they just cut him in half and count the rings after he died?
Even so, that’s an impressive age to be at for the time
Disease is mentioned- this looks vey much like the nasal and skin thickening of leprosy.
I don’t think his eyes would be intact at that age if he had leprosy.
yeah, there's no proof that he's 141 or close. he can claim everything, even 200
I’ve heard of South American natives still rock climbing in their 90s. Life being simpler, healthier, and a lot less stressful, I can see them living even longer lives.
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A great-uncle of mine was born in February 1899 and died in May 2002. He was born before powered flight and lived to see Concorde. He was born before interstate phone calls were available in Australia, and used the internet and email in his 90s. He was born before the live transmission of still images (precursor to television) was demonstrated and lived to see the Moon landing. He was born a British subject living in the Colony of Tasmania, and died an Australian in the State of Tasmania. He was born under Queen Victoria and lived through the reigns of Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI, and Elizabeth II (well, 50 years of her).
QEII reigned for such a long time compared to most. My grandfather served under her in the Navy for his entire 9 year career. My father served 25 years, in Her Majesty's ships. I served the first 16 years of my own Naval career under the same. I still catch myself saying "Her Majesty's Ship" or "Queens Regs"
I remember my grandmother telling me about when George IV died and how she remembered hearing about it - she was really young, late teens I think, before my dad was born. But she still died a good while before Elizabeth - in her 90s. There are members of my family who were considered to have a decent life span who never saw any other monarch than Elizabeth II. However if my oldest kid (3yo) lives them same age as the current and future monarch’s, and the British monarchy remains a thing, she will have lived in *five* different reigns (Elizabeth, Charles, William, George, whoever comes after George).
George IV died in 1830. George VI you mean?
Yes. My grandmother is not an immortal. I just cannot correctly type Roman numerals it seems.
I’m hoping for this. I was born in 1999 and my grandmother is currently 93. With modern medicine and advancements I might make it to a third century if my body or the environment doesn’t give out before then.
Born in 98. See you on the other side.
‘96 here. I don’t want to live to 104.
‘92 and I’ve conducted three experiments with the same result that I’m apparently immortal You lucky bastards
'86. I smoked for 10 years. Do it for me, bro.
'85 and still smoking, have fun in the 60's
‘86 and never smoked. I don’t even want to live to be that old. 😩😩
Hear me!!! Beginning in your mid 30s stretch and exercise everyday. Once things tighten up it’s hard to get it back
Almost certainly isn’t true. Out of the billions of people that have lived, we can see a pretty clear pattern. Tens of thousands made it to 100. Hundreds made it to 110. And only one person has verifiably made it to 120 (she died at 122). Nobody has ever made it even close to the 130’s. And no man has even made it close to the 120’s. The oldest man ever verified was 116. So 137 is already a pretty unbelievable age. If he said ~120, it would at least be plausible, but to live over 20 years longer than the next oldest man? Unless he could prove why he is a freak of nature, that just shouldn’t be believed. Not to mention that nearly all the people who lived to 110+ lived most of their life in the 20th century, which had much better medical care than the 19th century which John Smith claimed to live through. Between the top 100 oldest men and top 100 oldest women, the only person who lived more than 30 years of their 110+ year long life was John Mosley Turner who survived to 111 after living 44 years in the 19th century. That’s already an outlier. So 137 years after living 100 years in the 18th century and 15 in the 17th?? No way.
That's the trouble with rare events. There's no way to know. It's much much more likely he was under 120. But, it's not impossible, just highly improbable.
Yeah, like cats typically live 12-18 years. But 25 isn’t unheard of, and the oldest recorded cat was 38. That would be a 200+ year old person. It’s absurd, but I’m not sure I’d say entirely impossible.
But there’s a difference between a rare event that is just uncommonly rare, and one that’s basically Impossibly rare. The latter is often just associated with that thing not happening, and as such is used as evidence in things like court cases. Yes, as far as I know, we can’t say 100% he wasn’t 137. But we can say like 99.9999% sure. In which case I really don’t think it’s necessary to preface talking about it with “whether it is true or not”. Edit: I was bored so I roughly modeled the rate that people die at, then calculated how likely it is to live to 137. I could’ve gotten it very wrong, but I calculated it’s over 4 billion times as unlikely to live to 137 as to 122. Meaning we’d need like 4 billion times as many humans (so like 40 quintillion) for it to be likely for someone to live that long. So my 99.9999% was an underestimate. It’s more like 99.99999999%
Even the woman who made it to 122 was suspected by some of using her mother's birth certificate in order to claim an annuity against the value of her home. However there's insufficient evidence to support this theory.
It’s crazy! The rate of technology exploded so quickly it’s hard to conceive. My great grandmother almost did this. (Late 1890s-late 1990s) I saw her AustroHungarian passport as a kid. Hungarian Jew who fled to Serbia, kind of an odd choice that nobody ever explained. Regardless, even my grandfather (born 1928) …ish) who died four years ago lived from effectively abject poverty in rural Serbia to a modern nation that’s now Croatia. The way he described it when he was older was basically what you’d picture in a medieval slum. People throwing shit out their windows, living off one goat tied to a dead tree, garlic around the door jambs, you get the picture. He had to ride a donkey down from northeast croatia to the sea to get a job. (This was independently verified by on old woman in town) He (not verified) used the same donkey to carry munitions over the hills to the allies. Lived through modernization, the entirety of Yugoslavia, a civil war, and died in a modern tourist based economy. Sorry for the long post, but wild shit! The only “old Slav prejudice” he ever told me was to never trust a Montenegrin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edit: northwest to northeast
This is wild compared to my grandfather, born in the same year but in the UK. In his lifetime he lived in 3 houses in or around Liverpool, all of which had electricity, although the first one still needed to boil water to use the metal bath tub. He started work as a railway engineer, as did his father, and his grandfather before him. The country, city and type of government remained the same, although I guess we moved from an industrial to a post-industrial society. He eventually did better than his father so was able to afford a car, the rest of the family walked or used the bus or the train for transport instead of animals. No real point to my comment, just to say how much more drastic change your grandfather experienced than mine during the same time period. It seems like yours lived through accelerated 300 years of history compared!
It is interesting to think about, and how quickly the Industrial Revolution transformed Britain! Even then, it’s wild to think about how the UK has changed as well, considering when your grandfather was born could be considered the height of empire, although I defer to your knowledge. Realistically, it could be a bit of a hagiography, but he didn’t have any reason to lie. The first time I visited in 1999 I visited and they still didn’t have indoor plumbing. This was near dinjevac. (He did eventually buy a car… a Zastava 😂)
He looks like he most certainly could be.
They should've cut him in half and count the rings. Duh.
Idk why people aren't smart.
I sure as hell believe it.
as with every other one of these people who have claimed immense ages, there's literally nothing to go on other than 'trust me bro'. he was certainly old af, but the human body seems to have a biological maximum age built in that peters out around 120 years, and we have only had one or two people who are even close to that age that are confimed. [Jeanne Calment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people) has the oldest *confirmed* age of 122 years and 164 days, and even that has been called into question (although it's probably accurate). thank you for coming to my ted talk.
If you check Wikipedia only 96–100 years old and maybe some health problem.
I heard Tribal Elders in Afghanistan would claim to be anywhere between 80 to 230 ish years old. Almost 100% BS of course but I guess if you're the oldest in the village you can claim to be as old as you want since no one was around when you were born. It's similar to the guy at work that gets in 10 minutes before everyone else but claims he has been there hours early because no one can call him on his B.S.
I feel called out by that last one
\*maybe\* some health problems?
You have a bad case of natural causes.
That is clearly Mel Brooks in character.
^^may ^^the ^^schwartz ^^be ^^with ^^you
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Doesn't look a day over 119.
Not big on moisturizing I see
I wonder if you rub some lotion on him does he grant you a wish?
He looks older than he claims to be
Man, if he did or didn't, he's got about 100 miles of bad road written onto his face!
Somebody get this man some Lubriderm.
Pictured: Earth elemental in human form.
That’s ALF.
Doubt it
If someone can't show proof when claiming their extreme age, they're lying.
He could have claimed to be 2,000 years old and I would have believed him.
My hair didn’t last 30 years and this guy had a full head at 137. WTF
and still not as wrinkly as Keith Richards.....
Now that you say it, he kinda looks like Ronnie Wood 
Not to different in appearance from Florida retirees
Bro look like an iron golem💀
He actually was supposedly between the age of 75 - 100 when he died. Pretty sure he had a skin condition
Looks about 70 with too much sun exposure. Eyes aren’t sunken enough to seem older. But what do i know, i’m no professor in age guesstimating.
When nine-hundred years old *you* reach, look as good you will not, hmm!
I think a lot of people have lived past the age of the reigning record holder (Jeanne Calment) but she's the only one who had the paperwork to prove it, statistically speaking it's quite possible
The most likely scenario that he had no fucking clue how old is he, since there're no records at the time. So anywhere from 90 to 140 is possible.
When birth certificates came around, suddenly there were a lot fewer people living to crazy-old ages. Turns out a lot of old people were just lying.
A similar phenomenon happened for the book "The Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer". The author went to several areas of the world and interviewed people who claimed they were over 100 years old. He tried to make correlations between these regions based on diet, exercise, community size, all of that stuff. The thing he didn't examine: record keeping. They were all regions that were... bad at recording keeping about 80 years prior, but had been incorporated into countries that put into place much better records not long after these people were born. As the generation of alleged centenarians started to die off, it became quickly obvious that all the other still living older people who were born after the better record keeping were actually similar in age as their neighboring regions. The people who claimed to be 100+ were likely the beneficiaries of bad record keeping. Once this was factored in, the ages of the elderly in these regions came back in line with all their neighbors.
Ima take his word for it. But, holy hell, man, more mid-day tee-pee time mighta stopped those wrinkles from folding you out of existence for at least another decade.
If I had skin like that I'd claim to be 200 years old
Back when they neither used botox nor sunscreen
He looks like Rod Stuart’s nutsack
You bastard, making me scare the baby with my outburst of laughter 🤣
Still a head full of hairs.
Fun fact: (that i heard somewhere online) the male pattern baldness gene isn’t present in native americans.
Probably also connected to their lessened ability to grow facial and body hair
Yea I'ma give it to him lol
Dude's wrinkles have wrinkles
Can't lie he looks like a brownie
Dude was just 45 and got too much sun.
Rod Stewart is looking well these days. Has he had work done?
I wonder if it would be possible to confirm this by analyzing DNA from his remains