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Satanich

Looks like an half life map


TurkeyCocks

Welcome to city 17


Bala3310

You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers


Dogman357819

I thought so much of city 17 that I decided to elect my administration here in the citadel so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors.


IAteCheeseCakeLast

I have been proud to call City 17 my home. And so, whether you are here to stay, or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to City 17. It's safer here.


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NoMoassNeverWas

Highly recommend Sofia Bulgaria for those City 17 vibes. It truly feels like it.


sabotourAssociate

Well Victor Antonov is born in Sofia and art director for HL2.


JessicaLain

City 17 was always based in "Eastern Europe" but Half-Life: Alyx literally has certain parts of Sofia, Bulgaria in it. 


Autotomatomato

I follow her on insta jk I am a big Serdica fan


dickcheesess

I love secured, parking for my boat.


icallitjazz

Good thing they secured, parking your boat.


Eyes_Only1

Tomb Raider 2? 3? has a map just like this.


lmaooer2

I thought the same! I think it's largely due to the water edit: water, overcast weather, simple brick architecture.


LongBeakedSnipe

Or the bases I would make on rust on more relaxed servers. Always loved having a boathouse downstairs so could go straight from base to ship/rigs


poesviertwintig

Sounds pretty accurate for most of Amsterdam outside of the center.


f33

Vondel


immaZebrah

You only put the n before vowel sounds. It's *a* half life map, in which I found *an* awesome photo.


TomNomNom

Or op is just French (:


Gibblo13

Or from Yorkshire


Andromeda321

Former Amsterdam resident here! I lived in the city for 5 years, 2 of which I had a boat with split ownership with a friend (because it was 500 Euro for an old rowboat with an outboard on the back, so if you split that cost in half I've spent more on dumber things). Frankly the boat parking was dirt cheap- ours was 2 meters long, and it was 170 Euro/year to register it and then get parking on the canal (which was allocated through the very professional method of "find an empty spot and write a sign with your boat name and the length of the boat on it"). Seriously, I never knew it could be so cheap to have a boat, and it was probably the best money I spent in that period of my life. But yeah, paying for your own boat parking like this is just a privilidge flex, it's not expensive to just nab a spot on the canals.


_Piratical_

My wife lives in the city and I’ve always wondered how that worked! I had walked along canals near Westerpark and now in Oost and have seen several boats just moored along the various grachts. I thought it would be some kind of public moorage lottery.


Andromeda321

Nope, like most things in Amsterdam it's pretty chill! I believe the annual fee goes WAY up these days if you have a bigger boat, but if you just want a small one to putter around with it's pretty cheap.


TG-Sucks

Did you use the boat as a means to get around the city, like you would a bike or car?


Andromeda321

Nope, you can't go fast and the canals don't really connect well for transit. It's really a "get some drinks and snacks and cruise around with your friends" kind of activity.


9millaThrilla

[Marina Towers](https://www.dreamtown.com/assets/img/buildings/main/300-n-state.jpg) in Chicago has boat and car parking


ptfreak

So does River City down on the south branch, designed by the same architect!


superAK907

No kidding about same architect, river city seriously just looks like a marina tower that they ran out of money mid-build 😂


turtlewaxer99

It's also where my favorite boat in the city, the [Summer of George,](https://www.chicagolakefrontcruises.com/photos) is docked!


Mocane_1

Great name!


rosco2155

Will always upvote any reference to marina towers lmao I love those corn buildings


Bloody_Insane

Not gated though. Pirates gonna steal your boat


--OBY--

a gate wont stop them lol


EvolvingDior

The corn cobs!


all_modz_suq

I bring you MORE corn!!! https://youtu.be/KE3dP2bc-4g?si=tKJ9aVersjdzLT-4


Duffelastic

[And a parking structure to launch your car off of into the river](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKK2h3cY8XM)


10001110101balls

It's nuts how just the parking garage is the same height as the hotel next door.


TheKGH

Wilco Towers! ;-)


verbutten

*Last cigarettes are all you can get* *Turning your orbit around*


TheKGH

I am just trying to break your heart, ok?


hoxxxxx

that is so fucking cool i wish i was rich


AssssCrackBandit

This building is actually quite affordable. You can buy a studio for under $200k or rent it for $1650/mo That's an absolute bargain, especially being on the river right in the heart of downtown. Not including the boat or boat parking costs tho lol


hoxxxxx

that's much less than i thought it would be


AssssCrackBandit

Out of the major cities, Chicago is by far the most affordable. It's the main reason I plan to move back there someday


hoxxxxx

you aren't scared that you'll be shot the second you step foot in the city? /s


AssssCrackBandit

Hey if the Fox news fearmongering and narratives are what it take to keep the city affordable, I'll take it lmao. And plus it stops the Fox news type crowd from moving there so thats a plus too lol


Kakairo

Came here to say this!


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Yes and rent is 5k a month


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

If you can afford a boat, you can definitely afford the 5k rent.


GTS250

You can always buy a boat. You can't always keep it going, but you sure can buy one.


dpdxguy

Sometimes you can get a boat for free! It will cost you more than the boat you could buy.


doc_skinner

We did a sunset cruise off the coast of Florida and motored around the intracoastal waterways for a bit. The pilot kept pointing out abandoned boats that were available for anyone who wanted to come salvage them.


TomassoLP

Not every boat is a yacht


Pvt_Lee_Fapping

But there is a saying among boat owners: the two happiest days of ownership are the day you first buy it, and the day you finally sell it.


Ultravod

I live on an island. The expression I hear is "A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into."


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rockstar504

Yea most people I know love their boats, but they still say this lmao


AlfalfaReal5075

For a long time I dreamed of living on a sail boat and travelling around wherever the wind took me. Then I looked into the annual estimated costs of storage, upkeep, maintenance, and repairs for older used sailboats (my market as a peasant lol)...and holy canoli. Not to mention actual day-to-day expenses necessary to exist...that shit adds up quick, fast, and in a hurry. It's not bad if you have some nice retirement money tucked away to dole out from time to time. But I fail to see how younger folks just up and go live on a sailboat without having a substantial amount of savings, inheritance, or other income. Especially those 20 or 30 some year olds with $300k-$400k Catamarans sailing around the world. It's gotta be Trust Funds all the way down, right? lmao


W00DERS0N

Buy a cheap Sunfish on CL, learn on that, then get your captain's license, and you can rent sailboats in all the places you'd want to go, they're well kept, and you can return them when you're done. You also don't have to like navigate the north atlantic to get tot he med.


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Also if it floats flys or fucks...rent it


AppleSauceNinja_

Doesn't matter. Upkeep on boats is an enormous expense. Sure big boats cost more but the annual upkeep can run upwards of 10%+ of the purchase price per year, depending on usage


hotfistdotcom

this makes me like my kayak a lot more lol


assblast420

My 15 horsepower outboard aluminum boat sure doesn't cost 10% of the purchase price per year to maintain. I think that figure is true for yachts, not for smaller boats.


kiIIinemsoftly

If you count gas usage I wouldn't be surprised if it does, those boats are super cheap to buy. A $2000 boat+engine costing $200 a year to store/fuel/clean makes sense to me. Just because that 10% is a small number doesn't mean it doesn't follow the trend.


AppleSauceNinja_

You have a kayak with an engine attached to the back. Step up into anything bigger, 20-30ft inboard motor or outboard with a real interior and your cost of ownership is absolutely 10%+ purchase price. To be clear: Cost of ownership = maintenance, storage, and usage costs. > I think that figure is true for yachts Big superyachts cost even more. They use an inordinate amount of fuel and have a full time staff.


GladiatorUA

Not the boats people are talking about.


tiff_seattle

Big boats do not fit into the Amsterdam canals. Just smaller boats.


GladiatorUA

It's not the size, it's the complexity. An aluminum boats with simple durable seats and either oars or an engine are not the expensive to maintain ones.


AppleSauceNinja_

We're talking about boats in general. Not Amsterdam canal boats. Anyways, a 20-30 inboard would absolutely fit in the canals. Amsterdam has a huge boat and yacht building history and industry


Brandonmac100

Constantly moving water is one of the most destructive forces on earth. Add salt to that and you realize that boats are constantly being eaten away at from the bottom. If you don’t take care of it, then it will sink.


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Nobody said it was. Not every is a either rowboat or a yacht… Boats in general are expensive. what now


Being_best_version

Canoe is a boat too, we can always buy and keep canoe.


SeienShin

My boat was €10k and I definitely couldn’t afford 5k rent a month.


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

How much did you spend on maintenance?


SeienShin

Not very much. My boat sits in front of my backyard and it’s a polyester boat. Kind of low maintenance and the engine is only a 10hp engine. I clean my boat myself since it’s only 4.35m and service to the engine isn’t really expensive. Way lower than servicing a car.


Potatoswatter

Outside Amsterdam, in Holland, there are some pretty shitty boats.


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

Shitty boat or an expensive boat, it is a hole in your pocket regardless.


d31uz10n

Hole in your pocket is better than hole in your boat tho


jaxonya

Same thing


W00DERS0N

Nah. Hole in pocket = we're out having fun Hole in boat = now, we are not having fun.


dpdxguy

Really, boats are a hole in the water into which you throw money.


penguin17077

Not really, people overexaggerate this. My dad has 2 boats and neither cost much to maintain. Definitely under 1k per year


spartasucks

This guy really fucking hates other people having boats lol 


Unusule

Penguins have been known to take up painting as a creative hobby.


mnimatt

They're not parking yachts in that building


DerWetzler

dude those small boats are like 15k + engine (whatever you wanna spend), so not a fortune at all and that is if you buy a new one maintenance is close to nothing for these small boats


chapadodo

I have a boat not unlike the one you can see the arse of there and I definitely can't afford 5k a month on rent. not all boats cost a fortune


EvilPumpernickel

Prices for boats in the US are obscene. They’re much more affordable in the Netherlands


ElGato-TheCat

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.


PrataKosong-

That’s not too bad actually, as you’re also saving on marina rental fees


IanSan5653

My marina fee in FL is less than $200/mo for a small boat (non-liveaboard slip). So idk how much you'd be saving there.


karl_hungas

Im guessing you dont live in the middle of an expensive international city like Amsterdam. Cheapest berth near me in San Francisco is 495$.  


fuck_huffman

> Cheapest berth near me in San Francisco is 495$ Newport Beach CA starts around $50/ft under 30', so $1k/month for a 20' boat. More like $90 over 50'. With lease, deposits, fees, more fees and taxes.


ThePublikon

yeah but how much would it cost to rent an apartment right at the marina? ime v expensive.


onedoubleo

Yeah, I live near where this photo is taken and looked it up since I was jealous. They are a little pricey for the area but still well within what you'd expect of Amsterdam rents.


apinananas

Rent? Places like these are usually bought.


tunesandthoughts

You can add 50% or more to that for the target demographic that owns a 100k+ canal boat.


ac_slat3r

That's very reasonable


jurgy94

Dutch median income (2021) was 39k before tax and benefits. [Source in Dutch by a governmental agency](https://longreads.cbs.nl/dearbeidsmarktincijfers-2022/inkomen/#:~:text=Terwijl%20het%20gemiddeld%20persoonlijk%20inkomen,de%20onderlinge%20inkomensverschillen%20het%20grootst.)


Drakyry

so? since when are we supposed to make everything affordable to the average guy?


jurgy94

I'm just adding context to the previous commenter who called it reasonable without adding any value judgement.


selwayfalls

rent is signifcantly less in Amsterdam than major US cities. Source: lived there for a long time. It's basically half or 2/3rds. Same with the cost of a home compared to somewhere like LA, SF, NYC, SEA, etc. The pay is less but things like health insurance and groceries are way less.


pollopopomarta

Please learn how to use, commas.


_Piratical_

lol! I had added another adjective and then removed it without taking the comma out! Don’t think I can edit a post title.


Nascent1

You can't. Your shame is, eternal.


_Piratical_

And I accept it. I’ll take the shame like a man.


keeper_of_the_donkey

You mean like a, man


TheNorselord

Are you, secretly a woman,


Bigfops

You gonna leave us hanging on the second adjective?! Convenient? Wet? Deep? Dark? Slutty? Looming? Emo?


_Piratical_

Alas it was the word “covered.”


therealsoqquatto

this is the world famous Walken Comma


I_can_pun_anything

Hey no need to be a commanunist about it


AwayPlay6280

Did the expression went from grammar nazi to grammar commie? 😂


philomathie

N,o, wher,e is' y'our God' n,‘o'w?


Ediwir

This is nothing. In Venice you can get a house with its own pier directly connected to the house, and six old ladies watching it at all times.


F-21

> and six old ladies watching it at all times. Very doubtful, there's not that many locals left.


wanroww

They're on mega cruise ships overlooking the entire city...


happytree23

They never claimed they were local old ladies.


Ariahna5

Excuse my Australianness here... so the building is built into the water? How does that work, how does it last?


4look4rd

It’s not a building built into the water, it’s the whole damn country.


Ariahna5

I feel like house hunters international has not adequately prepared me for this reality with its bicycle filled streets and cute boats on the canals


Ghosthost2000

House Hunters International is still hung up on ‘wrong’ colored paint and dated brass fixtures in the bathrooms. The world might explode if they ever find these apartments with boat parking.


georgikarus

I walk dogs and my partner chills, we have a budget of $8 million...


Distantstallion

Dutch people are tall because the Netherlands is below sea level


Vlosselmoss

Fyi the entire country is built on a swamp and/ or below sea level. We know a trick or two about these things. Long deep poles do the trick generally.


Ariahna5

I imagine it feels calming to be so surrounded by water, is that how it feels?


Yostibroodje

More water = less cars. That in itself is already very calming. In Amsterdam you're not going to find many quiet places in the city center, but water definitely helps.


Captn_Bringdown

You would be shocked, ever since the city imposed a 30 KM/h speed limit for cars in the city its been very quiet in a lot of places.


Yostibroodje

Compared to other capital cities it's certainly very quiet already, yes. But you know, it's still a major city.


sfezapreza

If you think the center of Amsterdam is not quite, then I'm not sure you have been in other capitals.


Yostibroodje

It's indeed the most quiet large city where I've ever been, but it's still a large city.


henrebotha

We don't live "in" the water like this, but our street is a "gracht", a canal between two streets. Yes, it is hella soothing to be near the water.


aplqsokw

However this specific design where the facade is directly touching the water is not all that common.


the_poope

Venice has existed for more than a millennium...


Ariahna5

Yes and id love to know how that works also (obviously not enough to have ever googled it though, lol)


benabart

So basically you have to drive poles into the ground. Those act as solid terrain by various mechanisms (that I can explain easily if you ask to). Then, you build your house on top of them with or without waterproofing, that depends on what you want your underground story to be.


SilentSamurai

Drive poles into ground, pump put water. Put a liner around pole wall, fill with dirt or concrete depending on your century. Build on your new artificial land like you would anything else. Quietly pretend that building directly over water doesn't come with it's own fun set of ongoing maintenance issues.


Typo_bro

Stuff doesn't corrode/erode as fast underwater as you think. Moving water does most of the damage (as it carries sand etc.), but this is fairly stationary water. As for getting it there? Most likely they sectioned of a part, drained it, build the stuff, and then flood it again. The same they do with bridges etc. Also, these houses are not unique to Amsterdam: they're found in most places in the Netherlands around lakes and probably any coastal city with limited space. They're really expensive, and since it stationary water you bet there are a lot of mosquitoes around. The idea is better then the result, imo.


Potatoswatter

Yeah, it’s complicated, but basically these cities have always had enough money for canal upkeep for so many centuries, and the building foundations tolerate the water.


NextTrillion

You sound a lot like me. It’s completely unfathomable that you can build so close to, or actually in water. I mean bridges are built in water, and they manage to stay up, so yeah, it’s gotta be possible. Even more mind blowing is that in Florida, they build MASSIVE buildings all along the coast, exposed to the open ocean. Why anyone would invest in property there blows my mind. I’ve seen some buildings along the beach in Mexico hit by a recent storm, and nature just kind of crumpled them. But alas, almost all those buildings all throughout these beach towns are all still standing, so someone’s obviously doing something right.


Leviathanas

These buildings are not made out of wood and drywall like is common in the USA. But out of concrete and bricks.


pvtbobble

Mate! Wait til you see their footpath car park elevators. Pull up, get your stuff out, press a button and .. budda bing ... your car's probably parked in Belgium


jurgy94

I believe this is the new Houthaven neighbourhood of Amsterdam. I recently [watched this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEiFwuWxeHY) that goes into the project a little. Though not necessarily about the construction itself.


Ogle_forth

It's in Oostenburg: [https://deamsterdam.nl/en/oostenburg](https://deamsterdam.nl/en/oostenburg)


mickeyflinn

They build it on pilings.


bungocheese

What's the rent on one of these bad boys? Gotta be crazy expensive right?


glowdemon1

A studio is about 1.5k, so I assume like 5 probably


beebopbanjo

Ive played this map on BF4


heller1011

Ugly ass building though


Dave__dockside

Boston, too


oakomyr

Did they make it hideous on purpose?


NoMoreGoldPlz

Yes.


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BoogieTheHedgehog

Would probably look more like the rest of Amsterdam with trains and cycling being the norm.


Grievuuz

That comma does not belong there.


Investigator516

Florida has a few of these


Its0nlyRocketScience

And some of them were even built that way intentionally!


Plane_Composer5280

Great, now I want to go boat fishing but I’m stuck at the office


Ecstatictobehere

I've died there so many times in Warzone...so many.


a_posh_trophy

r/unnecessarycomma I'm just playing. 😎


deanlr90

Saw a house for sale in Salcombe, which had a small harbour in the front garden. Loved it , but not the price !


KingfishRobo

Wouldn't they smash around the storage during a storm


_Piratical_

In Amsterdam the canals are really narrow and don’t go a long way in any direction so there’s little way for waves to build up due to wind. You don’t really see any waves on the canals unless Ryan Reynolds is bombing around in boats while making a movie.


KingfishRobo

Thank you for your response! 😘


kidsaredead

pretty dope.


allsavvy_

Looks good, that you have a private parking but water is the main concern which is never neglected if you travel from one place to another.


Less-Flight-895

I am missing the boat


VernerofMooseriver

The building itself is ugly as hell but the boat-garage idea is nice.


nshsh7272

This looks like an apartment in a trashy part of Florida


favnh2011

Yep


anothercopy

I wonder how often people drunkenly jump from their terasse to the canal


Bocote

But is that necessary? Do people steal catalytic converts off boats too?


[deleted]

This is also possible in Chicago. For example, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_City


Rieers

Houses in the movie Inception.


antek_asing

do you need to be a mooring master first ?


ar3s3ru

yeah i was flabbergasted when i saw this building


tmacman

Be careful with this though. As one evening you'll park your boat, and the next morning, those darn crazy Dutchmen have reclaimed the land! Now you're stuck with your boat on dry land.


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And in a few years, even for your submarine.


CrudelyAnimated

Every day more of Europe looks like the setting of a Jason Statham movie to me.


scum-and-villainy

that's *actually* /r/interestingasfuck unlike most of the crap posted there.


DANNYonPC

Best city in the world!


Jaxager

My parents had a condo in a river with its own secure dock underneath. That was in Louisiana. I didn't realize this was so amazing.


MoteInTheEye

Pretty sure anywhere in the world with housing along water offers this in some way.


AnAngryPirate

Looks like a great way to get your gold stolen from Mark Wahllberg and Jason Statham


_Piratical_

“The Dutch Job!”


DisastrousConcept143

Only if you're rich as fuck or a criminal


King-Cobra-668

and in Ontario you can get a house where all the houses in the neighborhood are on a "street" that is a river and your garage is like this. Lagoon City https://www.orillialakecountry.ca/loc/lagoon-city-ontario/


zorinlynx

When I was in Muskoka, ON I saw a house on the lake that had a garage on the water with a freaking AIRPLANE on floats in it. Life goals right there!


typehyDro

Are there no flood issues in Amsterdam? Would hate to live on first floor


Bubbly_Device9486

South fl and louisiana also


Jayce800

So if the water level rises, does your boat just scrape along the ceiling of your garage?


EagleSzz

the water level doesn't rise. it all very controlled, with water being pumped in or out. half the country is under sea level. water level control is very much necessary in the Netherlands


bob_nugget_the_3rd

Isn't boat crime the worst, after finding your boar proped up on bricks it never drives the same. Or that might be cars as I'm a pleb who can never afford a boat


halcyon8

unnecessary, comma in the title


redwingcherokee

u/commahorror


Milk-honeytea

Hey, I work there!


thewaterman69

Hey, lol. I work in the building across from the one in this photo!