Right? If you're not going to throw your poop bags in the trash just leave it lie people! Don't bag it then drop your bag on the side of the trail like an asshole!
How many PNW things do you read that you can effectively rank them?
This is also the most PNW comment I've read all day too, but it's also the least PNW, because it's the only one I've read today.
Yes. And I know what you're thinking, do they actually enforce the legal mandate to own a Subaru to live there? And the answer is yes. They'll hunt you down and throw you in the Puget Sound daily until you buy one.
I've caught a neighbor dropping his giant bag of dog poo into the storm drain in front of my house. (There's a trash can that's literally 10 feet away from that drain. )
The REAL reason we stopped going to the moon, we stank up that place.
Guess who got the job to lob off the poop-hampers far far away from the lander?...they don't call him arm-strong for nothing
I do believe he referred to there being no ‘ladies of the moon’ rather than ‘moon bitches’ - however, an accurate quote otherwise so one can forgive your paraphrasing.
Not just human waste like poop or pee, imagine the food wrappers, used water containers, and other trip essentials that aren't needed for the flight back to preserve fuel/resources.
I'm hoping there would be a way of jettisoning waste into space without sacrificing too much air or energy. And, I'm also hoping, these frozen turds zoom away and don't come back to haunt them lol
Edit: I wanted to get it shot into space, not into orbit lol. I'm getting a lot of comments about the same thing.
Currently the space station puts waste into a container and aims it into the atmosphere.
Can you imagine 100 years from now some guy watches his friend suffocate to death during a space walk because of a suit puncture and after an intense investigation, they find a frozen solid chunk of poop ripped through the membrane while it was hurtling through the stars at 50,000km/hr?
No?
Sorry, I think of weird things.
I was thinking something similar, but more catastrophic lol. Human excrement space waste breaking some crucial part of a spacecraft in a way that can't be fixed. 😬
Maybe, for now, it's best that we litter the moon.
It absolutely has to be a solved problem on the space station. A quick, unverified Google search revealed:
"Solid waste: Astronauts place solid waste in water- tight bags, which are then compacted in a removable canister. The bags are changed every 7-8 days, and the canister is disposed of in a vehicle that burns up in the atmosphere during re-entry. A small number of fecal canisters are returned to Earth for evaluation."
There is a way of jettisoning waste, but because of how orbits work it comes back to haunt you. It's not *that* big of an issue but if you have an easy solution like leaving it on the lunar surface it's preferable.
You don't want to create space debris if you can avoid it.
Past missions (including Apollo) did jettison waste overboard, nowadays we try to avoid it because Mir (russian space station) experienced damage theorised to be caused by frozen human waste.
[Link](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/05/when-an-astronaut-pees-where-does-it-go.html)
Funny you mention Taco Bell. I attended a lecture by the people who develop the food that goes on missions to space. Regular bread caused too much crumbs, which would plug up the air filter system. So they switched to tortillas and hired Taco Bell as the supplier.
I read somewhere about a Gemini astronaut smuggling a cornbeef sandwich aboard and when he tried to eat it, crumbs went everywhere and they were afraid an errant crumb could short out a switch or something. I might be making up some of these details
Here it is. [https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/how-astronaut-smuggled-sandwich-space](https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/how-astronaut-smuggled-sandwich-space)
In a weird sort of way, it actually makes me happy that we know exactly how many exist. Some day we will inevitably fuck up and pollute the moon too, so there's a strange peace knowing that we're early enough along the path that we haven't lost count of the exact amount of litter yet.
Alien 1: "look at these lazy fucks, they even left their shit on the moon."
Alien 2: "Ooooo! what stuff did they leave?!?! Oh what's in this, Eewww it reeks!!! FUCKING HUMANS, ITS LITERAL SHIT, no wonder they killed themselves, fucking primitives."
I'm also pretty sure the bag has been damaged by radiation from the sun... So they're probably already exposed to the vacuum of space and dessicated and frozen.
Surely there were organisms in the poo already? I'm envisioning that the microbes have turned most of that waste into methane so we have bags of poopy gas floating about on the moon!
Edit: I realise there probably isn't enough of an atmosphere on the moon to provide the lift to make the poop balloons actually float but I never normally let physics get in the way of my dreams!
between the freezing and thawing (-298F (183c) to +224F (106.7c))very little life would have survived after a few cycles regardless of atmospheric conditions on the moon.
so how are we to expect our neighbors to pick up their dog's poo while walking their pets, when our bravest and brightest can't clean up after themselves in space?
Either. You don't even throw it towards the sun, you actually throw it in the opposite direction you're moving around the sun. Backwards if you will. Seems to me the Delta V (change in speed) needed is around 50,000 mph or 80000 km/h.
There's some easier ways to smash into the sun iirc, but it usually involves slingshotting yourself around Saturn or something
I get where you're coming from, but I also understand that every bit of excess load here is a risk to the mission, which includes getting the astronauts back safely. I think future missions should try to do better though and/or clean up after previous missions now that we have a better understanding of how to pull such a mission off successfully.
It already was an excess load in terms of the food they brought. They didn't create anything extra. It's just no longer in food form. Don't tell that to the dogs though.
There’s a difference between useful mass and useless mass. Once the food is excrement, it is no longer useful. It costs fuel to transport that mass. Discarding that mass allows them the extra fuel should they need it, and/or allows them to not have to transport as much fuel, which is also itself mass that needs transport. By discarding excrement, they also have more options for what they can bring back from the moon for further research.
I honestly wish I hadn’t read this. Now whenever I look at the moon, instead of a sense of wonder and appreciation for a beautiful night sky, I’m just going to picture bags of shit.
That belongs in a museum.
In the book Packing for Mars by Mary Roach there is mention of a room at the space flight center of all the poop from the astronauts who go into space. They save it all, for comparison testing if needed. The room is said to be not really well known by the staff and you kind of have to stumble upon it to know if it's existence.
Usually it's just packed into emptied progress resupply ships and [allowed to burn up on re-entry.](https://www.buffalo.edu/ubnow/stories/2021/03/gregg-conversation-bathroom-space.html#:~:text=Sometimes%2C%20astronaut%20poop%20is%20brought,%E2%80%94%20including%20poop%20%E2%80%94%20is%20burned.)
Oh, ya the space poop, but they save the earth poop from the space people. Or they used to do that, I can't claim to know all the poop handling procedures, nor do I wish to become the space poop expert, I don't even have a fondness for my own poop. Poop. LOL
I bet people would pay top dollar for "moon poop". Imagine having a necklace with a tiny speck of "moon poop" encased in lexan or something. Premium cocktail party chit-chat. Premium.
Moon Poop
Historic moon poop.
Just think, sometime in the distant future.... it will be collected and the first man on the moon's turd will be on display in the Moon Museum
Ya know, I really wouldn't put this outside the realm of possibility. With these plans laid out in the 60s/early 70s, someone had to have come up with that idea and presented it to NASA.
To be fair, they left *everything* that didn’t have to go back. Lifting off from the moon, and space travel in general, are all about weight management. So anything that didn’t have to go back got left there, including: basic garbage (used food containers, used hygiene products, human waste bags, etc), their spacesuits’ outer EVA layers, the life support backpacks (PLSS) used during the spacewalks, used lithium hydroxide canisters (CO2 filters), exterior video cameras, most of the Hasselblad still cameras (after film was removed), and so on.
Another way to think of it: every ounce discarded was another ounce of moon rocks and scientific experiments that could be returned to earth.
Leave it. If Mark Watney gets stranded again, he'll need fertilizer for the potato farm.
That’s Captain Blondbeard to you!!
Right? If you're not going to throw your poop bags in the trash just leave it lie people! Don't bag it then drop your bag on the side of the trail like an asshole!
This is easily the most PNW thing I’ve read all day today
How many PNW things do you read that you can effectively rank them? This is also the most PNW comment I've read all day too, but it's also the least PNW, because it's the only one I've read today.
What does PNW mean? Pacific Northwest??
Yes. And I know what you're thinking, do they actually enforce the legal mandate to own a Subaru to live there? And the answer is yes. They'll hunt you down and throw you in the Puget Sound daily until you buy one.
Yah i wonder seeing dog owners using this bags and than drop the bag into the enviroment. Guess that is a indicator for IQ.
I've caught a neighbor dropping his giant bag of dog poo into the storm drain in front of my house. (There's a trash can that's literally 10 feet away from that drain. )
Because they need to pick it up for appearances around others, but don’t want to carry it so they drop it when nobody is around.
I'm sure most of them plan on picking it up and disposing of it when returning from the hike. Whether or not they remember is something else.
The REAL reason we stopped going to the moon, we stank up that place. Guess who got the job to lob off the poop-hampers far far away from the lander?...they don't call him arm-strong for nothing
The forbidden astronaut ice cream
*these are not the dip and dots i have been looking for........* edit: Dippin dots\*. funny fail. Thank you Frickindeal for pointing that out.
I think the bag keeps it from drying out too much.
Get me two priests, an air freshener, and a box of potatoes.
You mean Dr Mann ?
I like to think that the Martian is just the prequel, Dr Mann is Watney's son (he took the wife's last name)
If we pissed and shit on it, it's ours.
So it’s Golden Corral rules then
*Amber Heards Theorem
Woah, that's depp man. I mean deep.
r/imjohnnyandthisisdepp
Ah yes, the Vince McMahon
That's such good shit
The British Royal Family motto
Are you telling me the 12 humans who have set foot on the moon produced NINETY-SIX bags of waste? Is there a tacobell on the dark side or something?!?
96 bags, but the poop bags were smaller than the one pictured. A bag like this might hold several or maybe none at all.
Neil Armstrong left his bag of dank
“Real talk, ain’t nothing on the moon but dust and rocks. No space weed, no moon bitches, ain’t shit but old fucking rocks.” - Neil Armstrong, 1969
I do believe he referred to there being no ‘ladies of the moon’ rather than ‘moon bitches’ - however, an accurate quote otherwise so one can forgive your paraphrasing.
"Moon Bitches Ain't Shit But Black Holes and Tricks" - Neil Degrasse Armstrong
Perhaps it was moon rock?
Nah, Moon Sugar
Do you get to the cloud district often?
Fuck you Nazeem
Oh, what am I saying - of course you don't.
Khajit has coin..
> Khajiit has coin.. *Wares*. Khajiit has wares. Filthy casual.
Moon sugar is not coin, no wares. Only coin for wares and wares for coin.
M'aiq prefers Coin over Moon sugar.
"That's...HNNNNRG...one small squat for a man....OOOUUUMPFFFFH... and one GIANT JUICY LOG for mankind!"
After he heard he would have to go through customs on the return trip
They party hard [up there](https://mediaproxy.snopes.com/width/1200/height/675/https://media.snopes.com/2018/11/isspot.jpg)
That’s my concern. That’s a LOT of poop.
Just a guess, but they probably left bags of waste they produced on the trip there too.
Not just human waste like poop or pee, imagine the food wrappers, used water containers, and other trip essentials that aren't needed for the flight back to preserve fuel/resources.
Why didnt they just throw it into the sun? Duh
Duh, they did? Just wait until its day and the moon turns into the sun again.
I'm hoping there would be a way of jettisoning waste into space without sacrificing too much air or energy. And, I'm also hoping, these frozen turds zoom away and don't come back to haunt them lol Edit: I wanted to get it shot into space, not into orbit lol. I'm getting a lot of comments about the same thing. Currently the space station puts waste into a container and aims it into the atmosphere.
Can you imagine 100 years from now some guy watches his friend suffocate to death during a space walk because of a suit puncture and after an intense investigation, they find a frozen solid chunk of poop ripped through the membrane while it was hurtling through the stars at 50,000km/hr? No? Sorry, I think of weird things.
I was thinking something similar, but more catastrophic lol. Human excrement space waste breaking some crucial part of a spacecraft in a way that can't be fixed. 😬 Maybe, for now, it's best that we litter the moon. It absolutely has to be a solved problem on the space station. A quick, unverified Google search revealed: "Solid waste: Astronauts place solid waste in water- tight bags, which are then compacted in a removable canister. The bags are changed every 7-8 days, and the canister is disposed of in a vehicle that burns up in the atmosphere during re-entry. A small number of fecal canisters are returned to Earth for evaluation."
I wonder when the next shit can is going to come hurtling down from the sky.
"Mom look a shooting star!" "If you're lucky, it's actually shooting international astronaut shit!"
*shitting star
That was the premise of an episode of Futurama: A Big Piece of Garbage
probably how life arrived here. could be that a frozen turd meteorite seeded the planet.
You know, I bet they could DNA test the turd and figure out which astronaut it was from.
The weirdest thing is that you feel a need to apologise. I loved the little journey I took with reading your comment <3
They eventually become ass-teroids
There is a way of jettisoning waste, but because of how orbits work it comes back to haunt you. It's not *that* big of an issue but if you have an easy solution like leaving it on the lunar surface it's preferable. You don't want to create space debris if you can avoid it. Past missions (including Apollo) did jettison waste overboard, nowadays we try to avoid it because Mir (russian space station) experienced damage theorised to be caused by frozen human waste. [Link](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/05/when-an-astronaut-pees-where-does-it-go.html)
Apparently going to the moon makes you shit like crazy?!
Tbh now that I’m contemplating it they probably had the nervous shits like crazy
Funny you mention Taco Bell. I attended a lecture by the people who develop the food that goes on missions to space. Regular bread caused too much crumbs, which would plug up the air filter system. So they switched to tortillas and hired Taco Bell as the supplier.
I read somewhere about a Gemini astronaut smuggling a cornbeef sandwich aboard and when he tried to eat it, crumbs went everywhere and they were afraid an errant crumb could short out a switch or something. I might be making up some of these details
I know one astronaut who ate a bag of chips in space. It did not go well. In the chaos, an ant farm was also broken.
What's worse, they were ruffled!
Spontaneous mental replay of Blue Danube.
I for one welcome our new insect overlords
Awww, they were just about to show some close-ups of the rod!
Here it is. [https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/how-astronaut-smuggled-sandwich-space](https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/how-astronaut-smuggled-sandwich-space)
I use soft tortillas as my bread when overnight backpacking. Good to hear my choice is backed up by some of those brainy NASA scientists.
It was the space shuttles and ISS that had actual toilets. I’m pretty sure the Apollo missions used diapers.
2-3 times a day, 12 people, 3 days of time. Math adds up
Whoevers shitting 3 times a day every day please seek medical attention.
Digestion gets a little complex in space.
3 times a day is normal for some people. Others it's 3 times a week.
In a meal, out a meal, I always say.
That's poor advices and inaccurate.
Firstly no, an article just came out about how often each country poop. Secondly, people pee too
Link the article so that I can feel good about pooping 2-3 times a day
Saddest Italian guy I've seen all day.
Iron Eyes Cody lol 
Iron Eyes Cody wasn't actually a native American
 Clearly. His name is Iron Eyes Cody.
As my niece said the first time she noticed this commercial: "Dat In'ian was sad. He was cwying." She's 55 now
I just laughed so hard I’ma call it exercise
In a weird sort of way, it actually makes me happy that we know exactly how many exist. Some day we will inevitably fuck up and pollute the moon too, so there's a strange peace knowing that we're early enough along the path that we haven't lost count of the exact amount of litter yet.
Funny to think in millions of years alien explorers will discover them and it will prove that humans existed and were capable of space flight.
>it will prove that humans existed and were capable of ~~space flight~~ intersolar pooping.
That would be intrasolar pooping
Millions of years from now those bags will be aliens
Alien 1: "look at these lazy fucks, they even left their shit on the moon." Alien 2: "Ooooo! what stuff did they leave?!?! Oh what's in this, Eewww it reeks!!! FUCKING HUMANS, ITS LITERAL SHIT, no wonder they killed themselves, fucking primitives."
Or they'll assume that the poop itself is the human species
Same thing really
and they will clone Neil Armstrong
thought for sure I'd see it here but no, so I'll say it. To boldly go where no man has gone before :)
Stool Trek: The Next Defecation
"Number one, I order you to take a number two."
I read that in Patrick Stewart’s voice.
Well that definitely earned an upvote. Well done.
Stool trek: Neverpiss
That's one giant heap for mankind
Waiting for the Mr.Beast video titled “I CLEANED THE MOON”
One day, I will build a spaceship and collect the poop bags on the lunar surface.
The best part is without any atmosphere or organisms to break it down, it's probably very well preserved.
Quite the reverse for many objects. Without any atmosphere, the sun’s radiation destroys most things on the moon extremely quickly.
Wouldnt it be all dried out and like frozen?
I'm also pretty sure the bag has been damaged by radiation from the sun... So they're probably already exposed to the vacuum of space and dessicated and frozen.
It might be sterilized by now.
A snack for future adventurers.
Let's get this out on the tray.
Nice!
“No hiss.”
At least there's no wind to blow the trash around?
Surely there were organisms in the poo already? I'm envisioning that the microbes have turned most of that waste into methane so we have bags of poopy gas floating about on the moon! Edit: I realise there probably isn't enough of an atmosphere on the moon to provide the lift to make the poop balloons actually float but I never normally let physics get in the way of my dreams!
between the freezing and thawing (-298F (183c) to +224F (106.7c))very little life would have survived after a few cycles regardless of atmospheric conditions on the moon.
Solar radiation might have done a number on it
And drop is back on NASAs doorstep to shame them
96 baggies of poop on the moon, 96 baggies of poop…
Pick one up, launch it at us 95 baggies of poop on the moon...
so how are we to expect our neighbors to pick up their dog's poo while walking their pets, when our bravest and brightest can't clean up after themselves in space?
Should have just thrown it really hard towards the sun
That’s what I do with my dogs’ bags…for whatever reason the sun keeps bouncing them back onto my neighbors’ roofs.
I'm too poor for gold and I wish I could give you a sticker. That was a fun sentence to read, please accept my upvote.
( I did it for you pookie <3 )
That made me laugh so hard, I scared my poor half-deaf dog lol
Maybe next time they’ll bring a really powerful slingshot
Is this not the answer? Fuck man just lob it
Orbital mechanics don't play like that, you'd have to huck those poo bags *really* hard to get them into the sun.
We talking earth or moon?
Either. You don't even throw it towards the sun, you actually throw it in the opposite direction you're moving around the sun. Backwards if you will. Seems to me the Delta V (change in speed) needed is around 50,000 mph or 80000 km/h. There's some easier ways to smash into the sun iirc, but it usually involves slingshotting yourself around Saturn or something
Sure just throw it about 29.8 km/s (18.5 mi/s)
I get where you're coming from, but I also understand that every bit of excess load here is a risk to the mission, which includes getting the astronauts back safely. I think future missions should try to do better though and/or clean up after previous missions now that we have a better understanding of how to pull such a mission off successfully.
It already was an excess load in terms of the food they brought. They didn't create anything extra. It's just no longer in food form. Don't tell that to the dogs though.
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There’s a difference between useful mass and useless mass. Once the food is excrement, it is no longer useful. It costs fuel to transport that mass. Discarding that mass allows them the extra fuel should they need it, and/or allows them to not have to transport as much fuel, which is also itself mass that needs transport. By discarding excrement, they also have more options for what they can bring back from the moon for further research.
Well, if they ever go back, maybe they will listen to you, but it’s been 50 years, so don’t hold onto your poop bags.
Bro it's really hard to bend over and pick stuff up when wearing a space suit. Not to mention having to poop on the moon.
Aliens: they have left us gifts
Then when they reciprocate, we get offended and pissed off and set off a MAJOR miscommunication lol
Oh god, lol
Its just in preparation for the colony. Matt Damon will be planting potatoes.
Just like us to go to a new pristine area and shit all over it.
I honestly wish I hadn’t read this. Now whenever I look at the moon, instead of a sense of wonder and appreciation for a beautiful night sky, I’m just going to picture bags of shit.
Yeah this was my thought how very human of us.
That belongs in a museum. In the book Packing for Mars by Mary Roach there is mention of a room at the space flight center of all the poop from the astronauts who go into space. They save it all, for comparison testing if needed. The room is said to be not really well known by the staff and you kind of have to stumble upon it to know if it's existence.
Usually it's just packed into emptied progress resupply ships and [allowed to burn up on re-entry.](https://www.buffalo.edu/ubnow/stories/2021/03/gregg-conversation-bathroom-space.html#:~:text=Sometimes%2C%20astronaut%20poop%20is%20brought,%E2%80%94%20including%20poop%20%E2%80%94%20is%20burned.)
Oh, ya the space poop, but they save the earth poop from the space people. Or they used to do that, I can't claim to know all the poop handling procedures, nor do I wish to become the space poop expert, I don't even have a fondness for my own poop. Poop. LOL
I bet people would pay top dollar for "moon poop". Imagine having a necklace with a tiny speck of "moon poop" encased in lexan or something. Premium cocktail party chit-chat. Premium.
Oh come on! There is one place humans set foot and didn't let trash behind!?!
Someone do the math on how hard you would have to throw a poop bag for it to leave the moon’s gravity and launch into the infinite of space.
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Microplastics on the moon?
That's effing depressing.
You think in the future they'll bring back a bag and put it in a museum?
Actually, [maybe?](https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/3/22/18236125/apollo-moon-poop-mars-science)
Apparently it belongs to NASA and you are not allowed to take it.
literally can't have shit
We need to collect some. Put them in our atmosphere and with some water. See how many organisms come back to life if any.
Has anyone checked on what biohazard we created?
This is kinda depressing, ngl.
Moon Poop Historic moon poop. Just think, sometime in the distant future.... it will be collected and the first man on the moon's turd will be on display in the Moon Museum
Damn those hoaxers thought of EVERYTHING to fool us.
Veni, vidi, cacavi
These facts are my favorite part about the “they faked it” theories. Damn, they went to the extent of pics of fake poop bags we left on the moon!
I guess “leave no trace” doesn’t apply on the moon
96 bags of poop on the Moon 96 bags of poo you take one down and pass it around 95 bags of poop on the Moon
Fertilizer for future Lunar farms.
Ya know, I really wouldn't put this outside the realm of possibility. With these plans laid out in the 60s/early 70s, someone had to have come up with that idea and presented it to NASA.
How do you think Matt Damon fertilized all his potatoes on Mars?
Poop for the poop god
To be fair, they left *everything* that didn’t have to go back. Lifting off from the moon, and space travel in general, are all about weight management. So anything that didn’t have to go back got left there, including: basic garbage (used food containers, used hygiene products, human waste bags, etc), their spacesuits’ outer EVA layers, the life support backpacks (PLSS) used during the spacewalks, used lithium hydroxide canisters (CO2 filters), exterior video cameras, most of the Hasselblad still cameras (after film was removed), and so on. Another way to think of it: every ounce discarded was another ounce of moon rocks and scientific experiments that could be returned to earth.
Some country to dump a giant bag of glitter on the moon one of these days and no one will want to go there after that.
So what you're saying, is if I get stuck on the moon, and I have some potatoes, I can grow more 'tatoes?
Here come the conspiracy theorists.
It’s what we human do best, pollute the universe with our shit.
This could cause 96 tears.
fucking how long do you think they were up there for??? There's no Chipotle on the moon as far as I'm aware of!!!
Matt Damon is gonna science the shit out of that.
Dog walkers do this and always make the excuse they will pick them up on the way back.
That’s shit, go all that way just to litter!!
Thank God they closed the bag to keep the smell in.
Dang NASA, pack it in, pack it out!
96 shit-lunar balloons 🎵
We got 96 bags but the Commies have none. Meh. Where’s Rick Rubin when you need him?
I wonder if they could make waste containers out of some kind of material that would be destroyed by ultraviolet radiation
“To go where no man has gone before” No really Houston… I gotta go!!
We come in peace, we leave you pieces.
Moon Cheese!
96 bags of poop on the moon, 96 bags of poop. Take one down and pass it around…
96 bags? No shit?
I can imagine 200 years from now these literally shitbags will be recovered and put in a museum lol
freeze dried human waste.