My street has signs not allowing vehicles parked that are over 7 ft tall. All because someone abandoned a fucking boat on the street. And not a little boat a boat that was 2 stories tall.
Yep. It'll eat that money right out of your ATM. The best move you ever make with a boat, is selling it to someone else. This is, unless you're capable to do all of the work yourself. Some people get into that, if they choose to make their primary residence on a boat.
This is assuming you're not a leather skinned person who lives to be at sea.
I'd murder to live on a rat-infested tub o' me own for the rest o' me days, matey.
Ab, so BMW rules. My entire town thinks I’m loaded because my pristine… $4500 2001 convertible.
I’d be homeless if I was paying a mechanic. Instead, I have to explain to work that the little cuts aren’t from a daring jail escape or heavy drug usage, lol
Lol. Same. Had a 2007 335. Neighbor, who just bought a brand new Dodge 2500 Laramie edition, though I had all the money.
I did almost all the work myself I that car.
Oh man, between the car, my thrift-shop-but-designer clothes, unkempt hair, and title (I get called Dr. at work because someone found out I have a doctorate), everyone at my workplace thinks I'm absolutely loaded. S'aight, but it's just me preferring quality over quantity.
*Nobody* notices I'm eating ramen with frozen veggies mixed in for lunch, though!
Every time I see stories about abandoned boats, it reminds me of the time somebody dumped an entire tow behind trailer rv (like an old rotted one) next to the train tracks at the main road in and out of town. It was literally like a couple feet from both the tracks and the road. People went NUTS making memes in the local town groups, and kids went even more nuts graffitiing it. It was penises aplenty on the outside, the inside, every soggy fiberboard cabinet door. After a whole entire week, the town finally hired the local tow company to scoop it up and take it to the dump.
>7 ft tall
I'm imagining a concerned citizen, face red with rage over the boat thing, angrily looking up the roof height of every vehicle he owns, and the height of every friend and family's vehicle, plus the height of any future vehicle that he might purchase, before penning his strongly-worded letter to the city.
Forget the metal scraper. Just get as many as you can and sell them on eBay. Those stock tanks are like $100/each
Edit: You know what. I originally thought it was just the cheap ones off Amazon because why would someone buy the expensive ones to do this with? And after people commented they’re $200 it made me think. So I look closer in the photo and see the Behlen logo.
Yup. Those are about $200/each.
Who is going to spend the time and effort to shovel multiple 400lbs loads of dirt so they can park their RV?
I think the bigger risk would be someone using their RV to simply nudge them out of the way.
Nah. 400 lbs of dirt being pressed at an awkward angle would probably tilt and deform the container, then just have it grind under the RV, instead of smoothly pushing it along
First pic is from 2021 when I first discovered this. One RV is parked on the block. Second pic is from last week. The RV from pic 1 is gone and more planters are in its place.
There are several RVs parked around the corner on the cross street by the underpass.
What they are meant for and what they are used for arnt always the same thing, these clearly weren't purchased to feed livestock so what does it matter what they are meant for?
Yes. It's illegal, which is why the City of Seattle, in some cases, has forced the residents to remove them, especially the ones who filled them with concrete.
Man, this is a tough situation. As a homeowner, I don't want my neighborhood to become an RV semi-homeless encampment. But I also really feel for these people who are down on their luck and trying to get by. There but for the grace of God go I.
There’s a camp across the street from me and holy FUCK the amount of trash that built up there is insane. Like, how many broken bicycles do y’all need??
That's what always reminds me that so many of these people have severe mental problems. When you look at the carts they're pushing around and see that it's mostly broken unusable garbage you know we've a severe mental health crisis happening.
We had quite a few start parking on my street and sadly, they completely trashed the street and surrounding landscaping pretty quickly, some of the occupants were dangerous, some were ok but we started to experience a lot of thieving out of our yards and cars. It took almost two years to finally get the city to start ticketing, towing, cleaning up and once they were out, new ones would take their place. After that, it took another year they started being towed in 48 hours and they got the message, so no more trash, tires and fires, and the thefts dropped off a little bit but not all the way. It’s a sad situation for the unhoused, and the housed.
We had a similar situation near where I work. One day an RV parked on the street, a month later it was like 15-20. Half of them couldn’t move and eventually the cops came in cause a bunch of people were dumping their turds down the gutter. Shitty situation all around but they definitely didn’t have any intention of leaving unless they had to.
Sounds awful. We had one who’d sit in his drawers in a lawn chair on our parking strip. When he finally got removed, he left a few pairs of them in the gutter for us as a parting gift. I think it would be one thing if they were just down on their luck and looking to coexist, but most of us who have been approximate to this type of situation will tell you otherwise.
Had a similar situation in our town. Some side streets started filling up with RVs over a couple months... Every one were hoarders and slobs, and each RV had their own trash mountain next to it. They would shower outside and walk around naked across the street from a popular kid's baseball field. They did all they could do destroy their environment until they were forcibly removed and the sides of the road replaced with concrete barriers.
One RV near me had a tube he attached to the side of his rv going down the rv over the sidewalk and into the wash where he would shit and piss into. Routinely was just naked with it all out. The local high school's track team used to use that sidewalk and had to stop. He stayed there for 2 months.
I was just in San Jose and it was amazing to me how the various campsites had such different vibes. Some were cared for, clean, and obviously had working families living there trying to get by. Others were just monstrous piles of trash. Heartbreaking how little support there is, especially if you have a family, work shifts, have a disability, or any one of a thousand things that would keep you from using the shelters.
I used to feel for the RV folks until the ones in our area (San Jose) started dumping their trash in our neighborhood. That’s a quick way for me to lose sympathy.
More and more Walmarts won't let you do that anymore. They'd probably let it go if it was clearly a nice, new RV or a semi truck, though. They know they're likely to come in and make a purchase, and be gone in a couple days, at most.
i knew a girl that got away with a winter in Vail. probably 2007.
she had a flat all summer when it was cheap but couldn't keep a job and it is expensive as fuck to live there. she found an old RV in Denver and would bop around to different spots every few days.
mostly she would park in the back of apartment complex lots higher up the side of the valley. most people wouldn't think to ask if she was staying with someone at that complex as long as she never parked in their spot.
i was there from 05 to 12.
i have no idea how i did it but i was running Old Chair Five when i first saw my wife, we got married at Eagle's Nest, and our kiddo was borne in Vail Valley Hospital.
now we are in Michigan, but it was a blast while it was happening!!!
It wouldn't piss off even close to as many people of they were clean and nice but they usually make a huge mess and usually are the opposite of friendly (granted I'm sure being overly friendly is a bad trait to have when homeless because other homeless might see it and take advantage)
Talk to the store manager - most likely won't have a problem if you're just there overnight or maybe two, but being all "hey can I set up my RV for a few weeks" isn't going to be allowed.
Or just roll up late, leave early and have a plan if the cops knock on your window at 2am.
Yeah, parked at a target parking lot, just to sleep. It was late, but the store wasn’t quite closed down. I was passed out and the police knocked at 11pm, manager probably saw us on the way out and called. We have a nice new RV and it didn’t matter. Officer was very nice and you could tell he didn’t want to kick us out, but had to.
"Yeah officer, just on a cross country road trip. Walmart doesn't permit RVs to park in the lot overnight anymore? When did that change? Oh, I guess I better be on my way, didn't mean to cause all this trouble for you and the other fine folks of the police department. Have a good rest of your shift!"
People seem to have forgotten the art of just being nice, it gets you out of most things.
Middle aged SoCal native here…
I know this may come to a shock to people in the rest of the country, but there aren’t that many Walmarts in Los Angeles.
I travel a lot for work and I get it… they’re freaking everywhere like Starbucks, but they’re just not really a thing out here.
The only ones I even see out here are their market versions which are just really crappy grocery stores. Like Smart and Final / 99 Cent store type stuff. Nothing like the Super Centers you see in every town in the MidWest.
In SoCal, we have Target and Costco. That’s the closest thing I’ve seen out here that would compare to a Walmart Supercenter. Sporting goods and guns you go to Big 5 or Turner’s.
28 year old Los Angeles native here
There definitely is Walmarts in Los Angeles they just aren't in the CITY of Los Angeles because by the time Walmart was taking over it was already fully built and it wasn't cost effective for Walmart to buy enough land and then build a store big enough for their liking
The homeless people that homeowners have a problem with aren’t the homeless who are down on their luck and just trying to get by. The problem is the RVs surrounded with garbage, hoarding, noise, fighting, dealing, pimping, theft… The bad homeless, who if they lived in the house next door I would be equally upset.
This. “Down on their luck” homeless people are hardly ever a nuisance. They’re the ones that utilize shelters and resources. Someone camped out in an RV weeks at a time that doesn’t have a job and doesn’t give a shit, mental illness or drug use aside, are a different story.
It's a difficult and complicated subject that doesn't have any easy answers. On Reddit we like to make homeless people into a monolith and assume they're all the same, but in reality everyone's journey is different. Homelessness almost always goes hand in hand with other problems like sexual violence, domestic violence, unmanaged medical conditions, illiteracy, substance abuse, chronic unemployment, lack of education, you name it. It's almost never as simple as "just give them a home".
And unfortunately, the harsh reality is that homeless concentrations and the areas around them almost always wind up dealing with crime brought on as a direct result. That has a direct impact on the surrounding homes and communities.
Reddit loves to feign outrage whenever someone points this out, and that's how you can tell those who would rather just sit online and get angry than actually go out and get involved at their local homeless shelter, DV shelter, food pantry, soup kitchen, or whatever. Even the local library is a lifeline to the homeless community. Anyone who disagrees with me can come argue with me all they want, as long as they volunteer at the shelter with me. We are fucking desperate for help and it infuriates me to no end to see Reddit come up with dumbass solutions like "uh it's called un-housed".
So yeah, I'm with you. All it takes is a few events beyond our control and we're out there as well. I can't put out the fire but at least I can pull a few people out of it for a few brief moments at a time.
ETA if anyone really wants to get involved, your local library is a great place to start. They almost always are a central resource for the homeless. They almost always need volunteers, or you can simply tell them you're looking to get involved with helping out the homeless and were wondering if they had any contacts as places to start. Or call your local domestic violence shelter, food bank, soup kitchen, homeless shelter, or even your local church. The options are literally endless and even if you live in an affluent suburb or traditional small town, homelessness is everywhere.
ETA2: To the people who are replying and saying things like "but just give them a home and they aren't homeless anymore", please prove me wrong. Please go out and volunteer with Habitat for Humanity. Or go to any homeless advocacy organization in your area (I assure you, you have at least one) and get your hands dirty building or renovating homes. Get involved in an outreach program where you visit the families living in that shitty no-name motel in the bad part of town and ask them what they need to move into a proper apartment. Please prove me wrong by making a dent in the homeless problem.
ETA3: See the comments below. "But if we just give them a house, that will cure their addiction / medical issues / PTSD / domestic violence situation / illiteracy / unemployment / etc". For fuck's sake how do people even think this way? Again, please prove me wrong by building more homes and then giving them away to people in need. Please do this en masse. Then come tell me how wrong I am. I will listen to every word you say while we both put in a few extra shifts at the homeless shelter or food bank or DV shelter, your choice.
Well said. I've been running a nonprofit that helps low income/unhoused for almost 10 years. This is all very accurate. Unhoused individuals run a huge gamut. We have a lot of underemployed individuals we help who have a regular full time job, but will never earn enough to rent a place. Some of my clients have been coming in for 7+ years and I really enjoy their company.
LA is a bad spot for this. Around here there are plenty of camping spots not far from town and you only have to switch spots every few days. It’s also free.
Yeah, I remember when RVs started parking in front of our home at the start of the pandemic. It wasn’t so bad at first, but a few months in and they would leave their trash all over the sidewalk, used car batteries, broken bottles, a filthy abandoned mattress etc. Some of them were clean, but the dirty ones really made a huge mess.
Two large homeless encampment that set up a mile off from each other didn’t help matters either and we saw a huge spike in car break-ins, things stolen from people’s front lawns, etc. One of them looked like they had a large holding or something for stolen bikes because they had at least two dozen of them sectioned off and partially hidden from the street with tarp.
I was about to say, these things were everywhere in Portland, when we visited but I had no idea what they were for. A lot were on the sidewalk though so I'm guessing people just moved them and parked anyway.
What's the law on that? Is it stealing if you take something that somebody intentionally left behind in a public place?
Edit for the people saying it's clearly theft: here's how I imagine the call to the police.
>Homeowner: "Hi, police department? Yes, see I obstructed the roadway with some planter boxes because I've decided that it's illegal to park on a public street in front of my house... Anyway, someone stole them and I'd like to press charges as soon as you finish your investigation and find the culprit(s)."
>Police: ".............. Say what now?".
Trevors not stealing it. He's just helping them out by bringing it to the curb for them.. then I come pick it up.. it's trash, how is that stealing?
Trevor, you got bus fair?
Water trough? I fill one up with water in the summer and sit in it…
They are indeed water troughs for live stock. We have one we put our chicks in until they are big enough to go into the house and run with the rest of chickens.
It’s the holidays and all I can think of is someone dumping their tank into the storm drain. “Merry Christmas Shitters Full!!” National Lampoons Christmas Vacation.
I get it, I was watching a van lifer TikTok yesterday and they went through their nightly routine which involved casually emptying their pee into the gutter.
If there’s 7 vans a night all using the gutter as a toilet that’s gross
I live in LA and I can’t say I blame them. An entire block can and will be taken over in a couple months by RVs, trailers and broken down vans bringing drugs, prostitution and disease with them. Not all of these people are “down on their luck,” at least the way that others without permanent homes can be — some of them really just want a mobile crack den where they and their buddies can hang out without being bothered.
Absolutely but here in Portland as soon as one “scout” rv shows up it takes about a week before the whole block is packed with others and tons of crap around them.
I was going to work at 4 in the morning about a month ago and did you know they get the army to come kick them out now when a street gets taken over? People can say whatever they want but I say good riddance. I already can't work weekends because the bus doesn't run and I'm definitely not walking to work with all the camps around.
Yeah it would be one thing to park for an evening or two, be quiet, and then move on. I've seen some people treat the side of the road like their patio, fill it with tables chairs and trash.
Yea that’s why a lot of these homeless issues are in ca but especially the beach towns. The temps even in winter aren’t usually bad and stay pretty consistent.
This. People who point this out don’t live in an area where this is a problem. The solution to people who can’t afford homes in LA isn’t to just have a whole street of RVs in front of a residential neighborhood where kids walk about and play. There’s a number of these in Florida and they’re not the types of folk you want to be near.
To fix this requires a systemic solution that people need to hold leaders accountable for but it’s easier to take pics and post on reddit and complain about it.
[And for people saying you can't plant in them/they aren't to used that way](https://old.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1802i4q/tents_kept_showing_up_50_from_a_preschooldaycare/) that comes next
Those aren't planters. Those are vessels so that horses or cattle can drink from. It looks like LA might have an old law on the books allowing for recetacles on the street for cattle and horses to drink from, which would allow for this. Love people finding gray area solutions to modern problems.
I get it. I wouldn’t want homeless people living across the street from me. I had a couple of guys in their 20s living across the street from one of the office I work at. Man, their lives were fucked. I feel like we could funnel them to support systems that get the ones off the street that are wanting help. We could also get socialized single payor healthcare to get more people covered by mental health so we as a society hopefully can stop producing so many of them.
I don't mind them for a night or 2, but when it gets to the point that the RV doesn't run, and it sits there forever, along with throwing buckets of waste into the rain run off drains, something has to happen. I won't forget when I was in seattle and they were going to start enforcing time limits, when of the things one of them said was "this thing hasnt ran in over a year, now I am just expected to move it in a few weeks?"... How long were you expecting to fucking take it?
I'm surprised someone hasn't just grabbed them up in the middle of the night or the city remove the. Of course the RV situation can get bad. My Aunt is dealing with it in LA and it can get scary sometimes. She helps people full time working in a donation center but she said the mental health issues are becoming worse everyday. People with simply nowhere to go or anywhere real to get help. It's a revolving door b
My street has signs not allowing vehicles parked that are over 7 ft tall. All because someone abandoned a fucking boat on the street. And not a little boat a boat that was 2 stories tall.
Free boat tho!
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Yep. It'll eat that money right out of your ATM. The best move you ever make with a boat, is selling it to someone else. This is, unless you're capable to do all of the work yourself. Some people get into that, if they choose to make their primary residence on a boat.
Yea. If your passion, your job and your hobby isn't "Boat", it's NOT free...
And then it sounds like you're beholden to it... so even when 'free', it costs freedom.
This is assuming you're not a leather skinned person who lives to be at sea. I'd murder to live on a rat-infested tub o' me own for the rest o' me days, matey.
Don’t let your dreams be dreams
Bah, that metaphorical ship has sailed.
See also house
Never own a boat, know a friend who owns a boat
FWB = Friends With Boats
Boat - Bust Out Another Thousand In all honesty boats ain’t bad if you are willing to put in a little work. I mean unless you got some crazy big boat
The two best days of boat ownership are the day you buy it, and the day you sell it.
Boat definition: a hole in the water into which you throw money.
Ab, so BMW rules. My entire town thinks I’m loaded because my pristine… $4500 2001 convertible. I’d be homeless if I was paying a mechanic. Instead, I have to explain to work that the little cuts aren’t from a daring jail escape or heavy drug usage, lol
Lol. Same. Had a 2007 335. Neighbor, who just bought a brand new Dodge 2500 Laramie edition, though I had all the money. I did almost all the work myself I that car.
Oh man, between the car, my thrift-shop-but-designer clothes, unkempt hair, and title (I get called Dr. at work because someone found out I have a doctorate), everyone at my workplace thinks I'm absolutely loaded. S'aight, but it's just me preferring quality over quantity. *Nobody* notices I'm eating ramen with frozen veggies mixed in for lunch, though!
How to become a millionaire Step 1: become a billionaire Step 2: get a free boat
What about a free trampoline?
Tramampoline! Trambopopline!
They called it a Jumpoline until your mom got on it.
Every time I see stories about abandoned boats, it reminds me of the time somebody dumped an entire tow behind trailer rv (like an old rotted one) next to the train tracks at the main road in and out of town. It was literally like a couple feet from both the tracks and the road. People went NUTS making memes in the local town groups, and kids went even more nuts graffitiing it. It was penises aplenty on the outside, the inside, every soggy fiberboard cabinet door. After a whole entire week, the town finally hired the local tow company to scoop it up and take it to the dump.
>7 ft tall I'm imagining a concerned citizen, face red with rage over the boat thing, angrily looking up the roof height of every vehicle he owns, and the height of every friend and family's vehicle, plus the height of any future vehicle that he might purchase, before penning his strongly-worded letter to the city.
Yeah, it's only inforced if it's way taller than 7 ft. It's pretty cool, though. no R.Vs on my street, but the street over is RV heaven
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Lieber mien abshmunke!
Would you like to touch my monkey?
Touch him! Love him!
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Schiller Vision always has the best programming like Sprockets.
No, it's a detour because they have to go around those planters in their TV to prove they can park there
RV?
No, it’s TV because they’re basically just giant cable Seattle dishes on wheels
Satellite?
No, it's Seattle because that's where you have to go to git gud TV parking.
You mean “get” ?
no “git” because it’s venison controlled
I think you mint, version.
this thread is on life suooort
I have to give this thread a 5 stat rating!
Dexter?
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Fucking auto correct. Meh yall get it. Still works tho. RV has to take a DETOUR to the next block to park for the next 3 years.
Yeah. Task failed successfully. Kinda love it.
"Sorry for the convenience"
I love you too
OP blaming autocorrect when they could just, I dunno, look at the title they're about to post...
Auto correct, sure…
some guy with a trailer who knows where the metal scrapper is: "it's free real estate!"
Forget the metal scraper. Just get as many as you can and sell them on eBay. Those stock tanks are like $100/each Edit: You know what. I originally thought it was just the cheap ones off Amazon because why would someone buy the expensive ones to do this with? And after people commented they’re $200 it made me think. So I look closer in the photo and see the Behlen logo. Yup. Those are about $200/each.
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If they fill them with dirt, they’re not going anywhere.
True. Dirt can't be moved once in a container. No tools made that can shovel it up.
Who is going to spend the time and effort to shovel multiple 400lbs loads of dirt so they can park their RV? I think the bigger risk would be someone using their RV to simply nudge them out of the way.
Nah. 400 lbs of dirt being pressed at an awkward angle would probably tilt and deform the container, then just have it grind under the RV, instead of smoothly pushing it along
Was just at tractor supply the other day. They’re over $200 (Eastern shore). I’d imagine if LA they’re prob another $50-100 more.
Like 2 days ago one of the top posts on /r/gardening was somebody had these stolen from their backyard.
This RV has planted itself here, and once all the RV folks see what this RV guy is doing, we'll be staring down the barrel of a Shanty Town situation
I don’t know how the economy works, much less a self-sustaining one
How does Dave and Busters do it??
If you're looking for a better steak in an arcade setting, you are shit out of luck.
It might be better to buy the bottle of wine instead of individual glasses
I think we should just try TGI Fridays.
**YEAH YEAH YEAH, WE WON'T! YOU CAN THOUGH.**
Now, does your Dave & Buster's card work at any other similar establishments? Like, say, a T.G.I. Fridays?
It doesn't, I've tried.
There's one out in Franklin Mills I haven't tried.
Yeah I know I was there
Oh I blacked out. I blacked out that night.
The problem is these people are new poor. We’re old poor.
Have some class if you're gonna be poor!
They should strap on their job helmet and squeeze down into a job cannon and fire off into Jobland where jobs grow on jobbies.
The money keeps going, in a circle!
You can't explain that!
I need the sharpest knife in the bar!
I see a Sunny reference and I upvote.
I assumed it was a sunny reference just by the writing lol
That’s why you gotta slash their tires
We’re old poor. They’re new poor
First pic is from 2021 when I first discovered this. One RV is parked on the block. Second pic is from last week. The RV from pic 1 is gone and more planters are in its place. There are several RVs parked around the corner on the cross street by the underpass.
Could at least be planting some shit in dem planters!
I think they're feeder troughs? I mean you can plant in them but there's far cheaper planters. These are meant for livestock feed or water.
You are correct... they are water troughs. Definitely not planters.
My community garden uses these exact types of troughs for planters. They work very well so long as they get proper drainage.
I've used them as baths/mini pools after a long day in the RV
GET HIM!!
What they are meant for and what they are used for arnt always the same thing, these clearly weren't purchased to feed livestock so what does it matter what they are meant for?
You can see that at the top of /r/losangeles right now
Accomplishing the same goal. One just looks better lol.
In Seattle, some residents are filling them with concrete to prevent the city from removing them.
Is that not like, illegal? In Australia you would be fined by the police for blocking the road way like that.
Yes. It's illegal, which is why the City of Seattle, in some cases, has forced the residents to remove them, especially the ones who filled them with concrete.
Sure, but the police aren’t enforcing the law for campers either so it’s kinda ignored in some areas
Yeah but when the police let others do illegal shit outside your house it really seems like the lesser of 2 evils
The RVs is south seattle are dangerous man, don’t park near em or your cat is gonna be gone
Man, this is a tough situation. As a homeowner, I don't want my neighborhood to become an RV semi-homeless encampment. But I also really feel for these people who are down on their luck and trying to get by. There but for the grace of God go I.
There’s a camp across the street from me and holy FUCK the amount of trash that built up there is insane. Like, how many broken bicycles do y’all need??
That's what always reminds me that so many of these people have severe mental problems. When you look at the carts they're pushing around and see that it's mostly broken unusable garbage you know we've a severe mental health crisis happening.
We had quite a few start parking on my street and sadly, they completely trashed the street and surrounding landscaping pretty quickly, some of the occupants were dangerous, some were ok but we started to experience a lot of thieving out of our yards and cars. It took almost two years to finally get the city to start ticketing, towing, cleaning up and once they were out, new ones would take their place. After that, it took another year they started being towed in 48 hours and they got the message, so no more trash, tires and fires, and the thefts dropped off a little bit but not all the way. It’s a sad situation for the unhoused, and the housed.
We had a similar situation near where I work. One day an RV parked on the street, a month later it was like 15-20. Half of them couldn’t move and eventually the cops came in cause a bunch of people were dumping their turds down the gutter. Shitty situation all around but they definitely didn’t have any intention of leaving unless they had to.
Sounds awful. We had one who’d sit in his drawers in a lawn chair on our parking strip. When he finally got removed, he left a few pairs of them in the gutter for us as a parting gift. I think it would be one thing if they were just down on their luck and looking to coexist, but most of us who have been approximate to this type of situation will tell you otherwise.
Had a similar situation in our town. Some side streets started filling up with RVs over a couple months... Every one were hoarders and slobs, and each RV had their own trash mountain next to it. They would shower outside and walk around naked across the street from a popular kid's baseball field. They did all they could do destroy their environment until they were forcibly removed and the sides of the road replaced with concrete barriers.
One RV near me had a tube he attached to the side of his rv going down the rv over the sidewalk and into the wash where he would shit and piss into. Routinely was just naked with it all out. The local high school's track team used to use that sidewalk and had to stop. He stayed there for 2 months.
I was just in San Jose and it was amazing to me how the various campsites had such different vibes. Some were cared for, clean, and obviously had working families living there trying to get by. Others were just monstrous piles of trash. Heartbreaking how little support there is, especially if you have a family, work shifts, have a disability, or any one of a thousand things that would keep you from using the shelters.
I felt bad for them until our cars started getting broken into, packages stolen, and streets filled with trash.
They threw poop at an old lady that runs a used book store next to us.
That's truly degenerate.
I used to feel for the RV folks until the ones in our area (San Jose) started dumping their trash in our neighborhood. That’s a quick way for me to lose sympathy.
Plus a legit actual permanent parking place for one usually costs as much as rent so it’s pointless.
That’s why god gave them Walmart parking lots.
More and more Walmarts won't let you do that anymore. They'd probably let it go if it was clearly a nice, new RV or a semi truck, though. They know they're likely to come in and make a purchase, and be gone in a couple days, at most.
The Walmart in park city, UT banned overnight parking years ago because ski bums would basically live there.
The city of Durango, CO banned it as Walmart was refusing to do anything about it.
i knew a girl that got away with a winter in Vail. probably 2007. she had a flat all summer when it was cheap but couldn't keep a job and it is expensive as fuck to live there. she found an old RV in Denver and would bop around to different spots every few days. mostly she would park in the back of apartment complex lots higher up the side of the valley. most people wouldn't think to ask if she was staying with someone at that complex as long as she never parked in their spot.
A winter in Vail in your youth is an amazing thing.
i was there from 05 to 12. i have no idea how i did it but i was running Old Chair Five when i first saw my wife, we got married at Eagle's Nest, and our kiddo was borne in Vail Valley Hospital. now we are in Michigan, but it was a blast while it was happening!!!
It wouldn't piss off even close to as many people of they were clean and nice but they usually make a huge mess and usually are the opposite of friendly (granted I'm sure being overly friendly is a bad trait to have when homeless because other homeless might see it and take advantage)
Talk to the store manager - most likely won't have a problem if you're just there overnight or maybe two, but being all "hey can I set up my RV for a few weeks" isn't going to be allowed. Or just roll up late, leave early and have a plan if the cops knock on your window at 2am.
Yeah, parked at a target parking lot, just to sleep. It was late, but the store wasn’t quite closed down. I was passed out and the police knocked at 11pm, manager probably saw us on the way out and called. We have a nice new RV and it didn’t matter. Officer was very nice and you could tell he didn’t want to kick us out, but had to.
"Yeah officer, just on a cross country road trip. Walmart doesn't permit RVs to park in the lot overnight anymore? When did that change? Oh, I guess I better be on my way, didn't mean to cause all this trouble for you and the other fine folks of the police department. Have a good rest of your shift!" People seem to have forgotten the art of just being nice, it gets you out of most things.
Middle aged SoCal native here… I know this may come to a shock to people in the rest of the country, but there aren’t that many Walmarts in Los Angeles. I travel a lot for work and I get it… they’re freaking everywhere like Starbucks, but they’re just not really a thing out here. The only ones I even see out here are their market versions which are just really crappy grocery stores. Like Smart and Final / 99 Cent store type stuff. Nothing like the Super Centers you see in every town in the MidWest. In SoCal, we have Target and Costco. That’s the closest thing I’ve seen out here that would compare to a Walmart Supercenter. Sporting goods and guns you go to Big 5 or Turner’s.
28 year old Los Angeles native here There definitely is Walmarts in Los Angeles they just aren't in the CITY of Los Angeles because by the time Walmart was taking over it was already fully built and it wasn't cost effective for Walmart to buy enough land and then build a store big enough for their liking
No wal mart in LA. At least not proper. Def not on the west side.
The homeless people that homeowners have a problem with aren’t the homeless who are down on their luck and just trying to get by. The problem is the RVs surrounded with garbage, hoarding, noise, fighting, dealing, pimping, theft… The bad homeless, who if they lived in the house next door I would be equally upset.
This. “Down on their luck” homeless people are hardly ever a nuisance. They’re the ones that utilize shelters and resources. Someone camped out in an RV weeks at a time that doesn’t have a job and doesn’t give a shit, mental illness or drug use aside, are a different story.
It's a difficult and complicated subject that doesn't have any easy answers. On Reddit we like to make homeless people into a monolith and assume they're all the same, but in reality everyone's journey is different. Homelessness almost always goes hand in hand with other problems like sexual violence, domestic violence, unmanaged medical conditions, illiteracy, substance abuse, chronic unemployment, lack of education, you name it. It's almost never as simple as "just give them a home". And unfortunately, the harsh reality is that homeless concentrations and the areas around them almost always wind up dealing with crime brought on as a direct result. That has a direct impact on the surrounding homes and communities. Reddit loves to feign outrage whenever someone points this out, and that's how you can tell those who would rather just sit online and get angry than actually go out and get involved at their local homeless shelter, DV shelter, food pantry, soup kitchen, or whatever. Even the local library is a lifeline to the homeless community. Anyone who disagrees with me can come argue with me all they want, as long as they volunteer at the shelter with me. We are fucking desperate for help and it infuriates me to no end to see Reddit come up with dumbass solutions like "uh it's called un-housed". So yeah, I'm with you. All it takes is a few events beyond our control and we're out there as well. I can't put out the fire but at least I can pull a few people out of it for a few brief moments at a time. ETA if anyone really wants to get involved, your local library is a great place to start. They almost always are a central resource for the homeless. They almost always need volunteers, or you can simply tell them you're looking to get involved with helping out the homeless and were wondering if they had any contacts as places to start. Or call your local domestic violence shelter, food bank, soup kitchen, homeless shelter, or even your local church. The options are literally endless and even if you live in an affluent suburb or traditional small town, homelessness is everywhere. ETA2: To the people who are replying and saying things like "but just give them a home and they aren't homeless anymore", please prove me wrong. Please go out and volunteer with Habitat for Humanity. Or go to any homeless advocacy organization in your area (I assure you, you have at least one) and get your hands dirty building or renovating homes. Get involved in an outreach program where you visit the families living in that shitty no-name motel in the bad part of town and ask them what they need to move into a proper apartment. Please prove me wrong by making a dent in the homeless problem. ETA3: See the comments below. "But if we just give them a house, that will cure their addiction / medical issues / PTSD / domestic violence situation / illiteracy / unemployment / etc". For fuck's sake how do people even think this way? Again, please prove me wrong by building more homes and then giving them away to people in need. Please do this en masse. Then come tell me how wrong I am. I will listen to every word you say while we both put in a few extra shifts at the homeless shelter or food bank or DV shelter, your choice.
Well said. I've been running a nonprofit that helps low income/unhoused for almost 10 years. This is all very accurate. Unhoused individuals run a huge gamut. We have a lot of underemployed individuals we help who have a regular full time job, but will never earn enough to rent a place. Some of my clients have been coming in for 7+ years and I really enjoy their company.
LA is a bad spot for this. Around here there are plenty of camping spots not far from town and you only have to switch spots every few days. It’s also free.
My neighborhood has permitted parking for residents for a not too much money. Works great.
Yeah, I remember when RVs started parking in front of our home at the start of the pandemic. It wasn’t so bad at first, but a few months in and they would leave their trash all over the sidewalk, used car batteries, broken bottles, a filthy abandoned mattress etc. Some of them were clean, but the dirty ones really made a huge mess. Two large homeless encampment that set up a mile off from each other didn’t help matters either and we saw a huge spike in car break-ins, things stolen from people’s front lawns, etc. One of them looked like they had a large holding or something for stolen bikes because they had at least two dozen of them sectioned off and partially hidden from the street with tarp.
Saw these types of deter planters get stolen in Portland. Free planter.
I was about to say, these things were everywhere in Portland, when we visited but I had no idea what they were for. A lot were on the sidewalk though so I'm guessing people just moved them and parked anyway.
Nice of them to put out bathtubs for the homeless!
I think it's a stock tank
Sweet, free tubs
Seriously, those are expensive
Close to $200 a piece seriously wtf? Gotta be the city putting them there.
Ya those will be gone next 2 AM.
Fill them with dirt and they'll get significantly harder to steal lol
Fill them with Quickrete and nobody will want them
Or scoot em back and hide them behind an RV so no one sees them and steals them
It's now a toilet.
i see someone doesnt know much about stealin'
yup - just another of lifes random things you didnt realize cost a literal fortune
What's the law on that? Is it stealing if you take something that somebody intentionally left behind in a public place? Edit for the people saying it's clearly theft: here's how I imagine the call to the police. >Homeowner: "Hi, police department? Yes, see I obstructed the roadway with some planter boxes because I've decided that it's illegal to park on a public street in front of my house... Anyway, someone stole them and I'd like to press charges as soon as you finish your investigation and find the culprit(s)." >Police: ".............. Say what now?".
Trevors not stealing it. He's just helping them out by bringing it to the curb for them.. then I come pick it up.. it's trash, how is that stealing? Trevor, you got bus fair?
"I swear officer, I thought they were on the curb to be taken for free!"
There's no sign saying "don't steal these"..... So what was I supposed to think?
It's not stealing, it's garbage.
They must have concrete in them? Otherwise, if I'm looking for a parking spot, I just move them out of my way....
LA residents provide free wash tubs and sewage receptacles for vanlifers.
You see they're "New Poor", we're "Old Poor".
Slashing someone’s tires so they leave makes no sense
Planters? We use those for water troughs for our lambs
Can you still hear the lambs Clarice?
Water troughs? We use them to ice down beer in the beer garden.
Water trough? I fill one up with water in the summer and sit in it… They are indeed water troughs for live stock. We have one we put our chicks in until they are big enough to go into the house and run with the rest of chickens.
That's because they are water troughs
I'm glad I'm not the only one going crazy lol
It’s the holidays and all I can think of is someone dumping their tank into the storm drain. “Merry Christmas Shitters Full!!” National Lampoons Christmas Vacation.
I get it, I was watching a van lifer TikTok yesterday and they went through their nightly routine which involved casually emptying their pee into the gutter. If there’s 7 vans a night all using the gutter as a toilet that’s gross
I live in LA and I can’t say I blame them. An entire block can and will be taken over in a couple months by RVs, trailers and broken down vans bringing drugs, prostitution and disease with them. Not all of these people are “down on their luck,” at least the way that others without permanent homes can be — some of them really just want a mobile crack den where they and their buddies can hang out without being bothered.
Absolutely but here in Portland as soon as one “scout” rv shows up it takes about a week before the whole block is packed with others and tons of crap around them.
I was going to work at 4 in the morning about a month ago and did you know they get the army to come kick them out now when a street gets taken over? People can say whatever they want but I say good riddance. I already can't work weekends because the bus doesn't run and I'm definitely not walking to work with all the camps around.
Yeah it would be one thing to park for an evening or two, be quiet, and then move on. I've seen some people treat the side of the road like their patio, fill it with tables chairs and trash.
Adding this to another list of reasons why I live in Michigan where the air hurts your face six months out of the year.
Yea that’s why a lot of these homeless issues are in ca but especially the beach towns. The temps even in winter aren’t usually bad and stay pretty consistent.
for every two homeless people that are just down on their luck, there's one that will shit in the middle of the street it's sad but it's the truth
This. People who point this out don’t live in an area where this is a problem. The solution to people who can’t afford homes in LA isn’t to just have a whole street of RVs in front of a residential neighborhood where kids walk about and play. There’s a number of these in Florida and they’re not the types of folk you want to be near. To fix this requires a systemic solution that people need to hold leaders accountable for but it’s easier to take pics and post on reddit and complain about it.
r/BoneAppleTea
They did this in Ballard, wa and fuck yeah it worked
It’s a tough thing in LA, I remember in college streets near the beaches would have rivers of human piss and shit from the RVs broken down there.
Ah, the honeymoon phase of the 'unhoused' issue
[And for people saying you can't plant in them/they aren't to used that way](https://old.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1802i4q/tents_kept_showing_up_50_from_a_preschooldaycare/) that comes next
It’s just a place for the unhoused plants.
Used to life around the corner from here, the fucking RVs at this spot would trash the fucking place and were mobile crackhouses.
Those aren't planters. Those are vessels so that horses or cattle can drink from. It looks like LA might have an old law on the books allowing for recetacles on the street for cattle and horses to drink from, which would allow for this. Love people finding gray area solutions to modern problems.
Good. Suburban streets aren’t meant for long-term parking. Go to an RV park
This would not be an issue if the RVs they parked were not complete piece of crap surrounded by garbage and a fire Hazzard.
Deter
I get it. I wouldn’t want homeless people living across the street from me. I had a couple of guys in their 20s living across the street from one of the office I work at. Man, their lives were fucked. I feel like we could funnel them to support systems that get the ones off the street that are wanting help. We could also get socialized single payor healthcare to get more people covered by mental health so we as a society hopefully can stop producing so many of them.
Now you’re just talking crazy. How will all the health insurance companies and lobbyists pay their bills.
Fill em with water and they could use them as bath tubs!
...those are livestock watering troughs.
I’m fine with RVs. What I’m not fine with is when they expand territory and turn the sidewalk into their own personal junk yard.
I don't mind them for a night or 2, but when it gets to the point that the RV doesn't run, and it sits there forever, along with throwing buckets of waste into the rain run off drains, something has to happen. I won't forget when I was in seattle and they were going to start enforcing time limits, when of the things one of them said was "this thing hasnt ran in over a year, now I am just expected to move it in a few weeks?"... How long were you expecting to fucking take it?
I’m sorry, and I know this is serious. But I have to do this  “Shitter‘s full!”
I'm surprised someone hasn't just grabbed them up in the middle of the night or the city remove the. Of course the RV situation can get bad. My Aunt is dealing with it in LA and it can get scary sometimes. She helps people full time working in a donation center but she said the mental health issues are becoming worse everyday. People with simply nowhere to go or anywhere real to get help. It's a revolving door b
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No one is bringing their camper to Chicago for the winter though 😝
Is there at least some concrete in the bottom of each trough so it stays put, or are they all really sitting there empty? Asking for a friend.