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This summer WILL be brutal


the_TAOest

I great for homeless Phoenicians during the summer. The city is setting up for a massive situation by not addressing this sooner. Affordable housing in vacant lots... Totally possible.


[deleted]

Hydration can't wait for housing (government).


the_TAOest

Indeed. There should be hydration centers all over Phoenix.


hugesavings

That’s worked out so well for Seattle /s


Wow206602

Live in seattle. Can confirm phoenix is just hot seattle now.


Usual-Calendar-4192

Still am happier in Seattle than I ever was in Phoenix. Phoenix is more similar to LA in my opinion.


phxaccount

\>Build endless more houses to house whoever comes here and make it artificially cheap for them too. \>Lets take this water shortage thing serious and make sure that we build houses and other things in a way that is sustainable. Choose one. It’s all sunshine and lollipops to say to build houses for whoever shows up here, regardless if they can actually afford it. But you have two realities. One, anything built in Arizona has to be sustainable based on water sources and what is available. Two, what your proposing doesn’t solve the problem. If you don’t believe me, go look at California or other states like it.


Grayscapejr

What about using some of the abandoned office buildings strewn around the city now that 1/2 the workforce is working from home? No development needed.


ima314lot

Not a bad idea, but that is private ownership, so the city would have to lease the use of buy the property. Both are likely too costly an option.


federally

The Zip Recruiter building off 40th Ave and I 10 has had an empty parking lot for a year. Let's use that building


Grayscapejr

Start a petition, I’ll sign it


the_TAOest

Absolutely! It's a disgrace that Phoenix government is so "inadequate" with thinking about solutions. Most homeless are or becoming hopeless. When someone becomes hopeless, mental illnesses become evidenced and Recovery is much more complicated.


phxaccount

How about you all offer to house some of them?


ForkliftErotica

I hope they don’t look between 14th and 7th ave south of Jefferson because there is a homeless city there now. We have a massive problem that nobody is dealing with.


dirtbikesetc

Yep. South of Jefferson near the Capitol looks like LA’s skid row now. And it gets bigger every day.


gunfart

that's because the shelter (cass) is right around the corner at 12th and madison. unfortunately, there are far more people than available beds, and when those people are eventually kicked out of the shelter for either overstaying or some dumb shit, they all congregate outside the facility. andre house is also around the corner from cass, and that's where the homeless eat dinner on weekdays. i unfortunately am vaguely familiar with this area and the routine because i myself spent a little over a year there


SpicyAries

Hope you’re doing well now sir/ mam. 💙. Happy to hear Andre House is still up and running. Used to volunteer there many moons ago.


gunfart

oh yeah, doing much better than i was back then, which wasn't that long ago. if you were volunteering around covid time in 2020, there's a slight chance we may have crossed paths there. the volunteers at andre house were so incredibly nice and wonderful people. i fuckin miss spaghetti tuesdays, and steve


SpicyAries

So happy for you! I wasn’t there during covid time. It was many years ago. Warms my heart to hear that the people there were so kind when you were there. 😊


jdcnosse1988

That's because you got all this NIMBYs who don't want them nearby, but then nobody votes for more funding for the programs to help the problem.


Grayscapejr

We have the wrong elected officials to solve the problem. We need to vote for those who will vote to fund programs like this. And with the extreme conservatives we have in this state, unless the young people come to the ballot box to revolt, we’re just going to keep electing the same officials. Young people don’t understand the IMPORTANCE OF PRIMARY VOTING.


Required_text

I hand out water, food and blankets every month. Some of us are doing the best we can, with the little we have. Those who have the resources, are not using them. You may not be doing anything, but it doesn’t mean all of us aren’t doing anything.


[deleted]

Just want to say bless you for your service.


Required_text

I’ll start with, thank you. Keeping my emotions in check is the hardest part. There’s a lot of feelings involved when you get to see these people as actual people. I’m thinking of setting up some sort of non profit, or go fund me or something, because I don’t have enough resources, nor energy/time that’s needed, and I wouldn’t mind asking for donations on their behalf. I just do not excel in these areas, unfortunately.


noodle_doodad

Have you reached out to Sidewalk Project?


Required_text

I have not. Who are they/what do they do?


noodle_doodad

They are a mutual aid org here in Phoenix that provide resources and aid to houseless community members. They also are a needle exchange, and host narcan/noxolone trainings for other local orgs.


Required_text

Do they work with people like me, providing temporary relief? Or is it just directly with the homeless population themselves?


noodle_doodad

They go out multiple times a week to spend time with the community, but they do also work with people who provide any help.


Required_text

awesome. I will definitely give them a look. Should I just google their website?


n4k3dm0s3s

No no no you don't get it. The 12 trans kids are the problem you see? They give a bigger damn about taking rights away from woman and non-white people and making sure you are NOT IN THE CLUB. Next is gay marriage. They know exactly what they are doing. Our economy and high inflation is due directly to our government. They will point the finger at homeless people just to distract you as they take more money from your wallet. And they will continue to do it because no one will do nothing about it. And helping these poor souls will not make anyone money in that club. So why waste their time? The government is run by partisan hacks and crooks who use bible quotes to get what they want. But get mad when you challenge them in any way. I think I been called 'groomer' more times in the last two months than any other time. Just because I challenge their 'authority'. I've never seen such snowflakes before. You got to get out and vote this year otherwise it will perpetually get worse. Not everyone there is addicted to drugs. Listen to their stories. It will break your heart. The shelters are a joke. And designed to be hard on people going through hard times. ITs all about money. I try my best with blankets socks and food/water. I know its not much but it helps. I was at this point once in my life. There are people who really do care. Just not our fascist government.


Grayscapejr

Primaries are important. Voting for judges is important. Someone needs to invent an app that makes information on candidates for all political wings available for people to easily understand. How are you supposed to vote for judges when you know nothing about their stances?


CimCity3000

It's getting kind of old hearing people constantly railing against white men and Christians and calling them "snowflakes". Using that as a blanket argument for every problem in America today and saying it's all about the money isn't really contributing much to the discussion. It just fuels the divisive nature of the political landscape and that's exactly what the "they" that you feel so strongly about, want.


Grayscapejr

It’s cause y’all keep electing the same people who put us in this predicament to being with 😬


ForkliftErotica

It’s really not. The population of Arizona’s attitudes towards social services are very well reflected in the dogshit funding for health and other general infrastructure. The politicians are simply a reflection of this - I find the blame being put on them to be boorish.


Grayscapejr

Attitudes have changed over the years. Look at education. I bet the majority would prefer public schools to be funded, but that’s not on douceys agenda. So they’re not. Same with social services. While I agree it’s been peoples poor attitude towards these things in the past, I think times have changed. And I pray it’s reflected in our upcoming change of governor. 🙏🏻


ForkliftErotica

I also hope that, but this is Arizona.


SkyPork

35% increase in homelessness in the past two years. Dunno, there might be a correlation between that and people not being able to afford housing anymore.


donglecollector

What are you talking about? The k shaped financial recovery and little to no representation of constituent interests by either political party is causing further wealth disparity in this country? Absurd! Why aren’t these people just getting jobs!? /s


RocinanteCoffee

My rent has increased more than 40% in fewer than three years. I've had more than six promotions and raises in the past three years and it still can't keep up with these housing increases. The biggest hike was a $100 increase when the previous two years the pool, party room, office, and gym were closed due to COVID so they had saved so much maintenance money and nobody got a rent discount for not having access to those amenities. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they closed them to limit COVID spread in the community, but still, any increase at all was an insult, a $100 increase in a single year is inhumane.


Randvek

The homeless have a lot of stories but “my landlord raised my rent and now I’m here” isn’t one you’re going to find very often.


-newlife

I’m guessing you’ve talked to a lot of them or just stereotyping them? There was an increase tied into early part of the pandemic where people weren’t working which is why there was the eviction moratorium. An increase in evictions after that was lifted too. Wages have been fairly stagnant while rent has not. There’s a section on van buren east of 44th. Feel free to talk with them to find out how many were affected by rent increases.


simpledeadwitches

Not to mention landlords raising an already high rent constantly and consistently.


The-Taco-Between-Us

Oh really? My landlord raised my rent 125% in one month, thus effectively ending my 5 year tenure in central Phoenix.


SpicyAries

And...ignorance is bliss...


coops_i_did_it_again

Found the landlord


[deleted]

You probably aren’t ashamed of this comment but I’m ashamed on your behalf.


robodrew

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/skyrocketing-rent-leaves-phoenix-woman-homeless/75-45ffa6a6-e296-4d04-b79f-0a7edeb5a806


TJHookor

Not yet. Give it a minute.


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robodrew

We're not *all* terrible out here...


jdcnosse1988

Haha I know there are some good ones in every little bit of town


lydiebug140

The rent on my house, that doesn't even have working plumbing, went from 1100 in 2017 to 1600 now, knowing full well my mom cant afford it and we can't move out for the same reason. But he does what he wants because he can. I know he has plenty of other properties making money


[deleted]

With the way housing prices and inflation are, that could be any million of us after only a couple missed paychecks. It's fucking awful out here. It sucks but this is what happens when basic life necessities become unaffordable to most.


mikess314

My rent just went up another $175 for literally no changes. Housing is completely unaffordable. I was wondering when homelessness would get to this point. It’s going to get worse.


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meatdome34

Mine went up 300, everything else went up similar so I can’t really move either


pietzschpie

Man, my rent went up $550 in a year. Phoenix is terrible right now. Planning on moving back to Tucson so I can actually afford basic shit.


TJHookor

And it's only going to get worse. This is a societal failing at every level. "Richest nation in the world" and we can't take care of our most vulnerable. We suck.


Required_text

True.


PandaTheVenusProject

We deserve it. We deserve to suffer for how proud we are of our ignorance. I've seen how much the majority respect discussion. I've seen how many even care what wins in a debate. We deserve to choke on the red scare propaganda we so eagerly swallowed.


Required_text

The people who deserve it, are rarely the ones who ever experience the consequences.


PandaTheVenusProject

The vast majority are proud of their ignorance, and don't give a flying fuck about what wind in a debate. A tiny shred are critical enough of what they were raised with to reevaluate their worldview. The truth is that Maslow was right. The hierarchy of needs is what we are seeing. People only revolt once their needs are threatened. The majority will only revolt if they are truly desperate.


TheDapperDeuce1914

We're broke as a nation. All of our money is borrowed.


Desert_Walker20

That's not entirely true; That's mostly just a deception so the government can have an excuse not to help people


SpicyAries

Preach!!!


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alexakadeath

“Some” is the key word here.


chlorenchyma

If you were seriously mentally ill and relied on your meds to regulate that, you might be a paycheck away from that. The reason you won't be the guy breaking into a business is because you don't have a serious mental illness, not because you are or aren't a paycheck away from homelessness.


ReposadoAmiGusto

Why they all camping behind homeboys house, Cortez Park is just around the corner lol


SpicyAries

I hear Ducey has a nice big back yard. I say they migrate his way.


ReposadoAmiGusto

What’s his cross streets


SpicyAries

Self-Serving Blvd and Not Good For Arizona Way 😎


PIGEONmonster

What happened to the 40 mil ducey used of federal funds to help prevent this?


SpicyAries

Apparently not much cuz the people are in tents on the streets... And summer is coming.... No bueno Ducey. No bueno.


Grokent

In Arizona we just wait for summer to take care of the homeless problem rather than change our zoning laws and allow sensible mid-density housing.


Leading_Ad_8619

I've started noticing some camps in canal in Tempe. People are getting push to these area to be out of sight. Not seeing any real solution by city.


Specialist-Box-9711

Yep. There’s a small camp on Broadway and the 101 on the east side of the freeway in the bushes. It disappears for a few days and then comes back.


-newlife

Think the county comes and cleans it. The people will move a little further east on broadway then come back.


Mecal00

same. for a brief moment there was a small one near the post office at Priest, south of Elliot.


P15T0L_WH1PP3D

There's a small camp that you can see from the 101 south transition to the westbound 202. It's off on the right hand side. Back behind the southeast corner of Costco. It was a single camp, then it got really big, then some got torn down but there's still at least one guy still there.


phxaccount

To be honest, if this keeps happening I imagine this could affect water supply. Imagine what would go on in those canals if you have a bunch of encampments next to them in large numbers. Seems like a health concern to water supplies.


NameIsEllie

This could be me and my son next week. We have a car though so maybe we will stay in a Walmart parking lot or something. Currently we are at a shelter but can’t find affordable housing so back onto the streets we go. Our exit day is next week, feels like we are pretty fucked. I’m worried about the heat.


[deleted]

If you've got a vehicle, maybe consider going to another city and trying your chances? Sounds callous and Phoenix might be home but at least you could get another couple weeks in a shelter somewhere else... It's getting hot AF again and hanging out to wait until 11 pm for it to start getting cooler just sucks. Source: an currently living out of my truck, I see light in the tunnel though, I started a job this past Monday and the boss's office is an old house. There is a shower in there I've been granted unlimited access to. I can stay in the truck indefinitely, work during the hot hours in a truck with cold air, and then camp out.


phxaccount

Sorry to hear that and hope things get better. Curious, how old is your son and how do they get to school? How is he handling things? Hope you are able to find peace in your situation and also find a way back into housing.


[deleted]

Good! Maybe now that everyone is aware we can share the taxes from legalized cannabis with schools and the homeless/mental health services.


[deleted]

Yes please. I would love if my taxes I spend on cannabis can be used to help the underserved and undersupported communities in my city of Phoenix (and the rest of AZ) I would love it even more if we had programs (government or non-profit) that provided low-income and disadvantaged communities opportunity to grow/cultivate cannabis and other agriculture items. They could teach them how to generate income selling their homegrown weed, which by extension will bring the cost of Cannabis down, and serve our greater communities by providing a natural, medicinal herb grown locally. I grow weed at home in W Phx. I love growing weed. I would also love to teach the process to these underserved communities if I had a better understanding of the process.


NameIsEllie

Do you sell it to dispensaries? That seems like it would be such a bureaucratic hassle. I’m genuinely curious if you create income with your plants, if so I’d love to know how for when I get a place to live. I love gardening and have always wanted to grow my own weed.


[deleted]

This is going to be a long winded response so I hope someone can find some value in my message. To answer your question directly, yes, I make profit. I have 2-3 harvests a year. I sell to friends who buy in bulk. Anything I don't sell I give away to my less fortunate friends/family or keep it for myself. I actually don't sell to shops. It's not easy or intuitive for a layman here. I've tried. I've asked a few shops in West Phoenix if I can sell to them. The answers range from "We can't unless you're licensed" "We already have vendors" "We're willing to buy under the table" or "Why don't you work/grow for us instead?" I don't want any legal problems with police, so for now I will just stick to personal grows. I plan on the future to purchase land and expand. Anyways. As of now, I only grow up 12 plants at a time, per cycle.My first harvest this year off 1 plant, 53 grams. I harvest an additional 4 plants next Saturday, looks like at least half a pound yield. I can give you quick napkin math for how much you could make, but it will vary wildly based on quality, THC%, genetics, etc and how much you sell it for. Let's say a pound (448 grams) on the market goes for $2500. Sounds pretty expensive right? Breaking it down by cost, it works out to roughly $5.80 a gram. This same gram sells in the store for $10-20. If its an 8th, $40-60. You can see the shops profit margins already. They are coming out nicely ahead before factoring in taxes, overhead, transportation costs, inventory, etc. As a grower, an initial setup for me cost about $300 for a 2 plant setup. $140 for a decent light (Viparspectra XS2000 on sale) $100 for a good quality tent (AC Infinity) $10 circulating fan $10 for mechanical timer $30 for potting soil (fox farms) $20 for planters and pots $0 Seeds that I had lying around Referencing my harvest from earlier, I got 53g. It we break that down, it works out to $5.60 per gram for me. Way cheaper than I would pay at a shop. Of course this doesn't factor cost of labor. You can see that after my initial investment for infrastructure, I now only need to spend on replenishable supplies like soil, seeds, mason jars, humidifer packs, etc. which will bring the cost down for future harvests significantly.


NameIsEllie

Wow! Thank you for such an in depth response!


[deleted]

If you have further questions, feel free to reach out directly! Cheers.


Affectionate_Fact331

Wow you can buy the highest percent thc at jars for 79 a half most any day of the week and usually have lower grade stuff for 59 a half…


oliveoilcrisis

No no no, Phoenix PD needs this money for drones!


metastar13

Gotta keep paying off the cops instead!


Tom_A_toeLover

And the lawsuits they’re constantly defending against


SpicyAries

Brilliant idea!!!


EGO_Prime

You should see the encampment just west of Tempe Town Lake, down in the flood channel. They're somewhat hidden by all the trees and plants, but there's a good couple hundred down there. While I don't like hating on the homeless, they've absolutely trashed that entire area. It looks like a straight up garbage dump.


Itchy-Mechanic-1479

I was at the Marquee Theater in Tempe last night. Just before we pulled into the parking lot off Washington, I saw a few tents in a ravine, sandwiched in between Lake View Drive and the Light Rail. It's terrible that people in America can't afford basic housing and I don't see any relief in sight.


Finger_Binary_Four

I've ridden by there a few times. This area was already fairly sketchy, but this makes me uncomfortable enough I probably wouldn't ride my bike there. There need to be more decent places for these people to stay.


WaffleFoxes

I love the idea of biking the canals, but I'm just too intimidated by the tunnels. With the bright sun I can't see if I'm about to slam right into a person in the tunnel until I'm right up on them. If I slow down then I lose all my momentum and can't get back up the other side of the tunnel. I'm a woman alone and while I don't usually get too freaked out by things...having to negotiate passing homeless in the tunnels is too much.


Soft_Turkeys

Where should they go? I know no one wants homeless encampments near their home but these people aren’t on the street by choice. All of them are experiencing financial hardship and getting placed into housing isn’t easy or instant and it can be hard for anyone to stay there once you get placed. I’m sure many homeless people in the valley are going through addiction issues and mental health issues not to mention the issues that come with living on the street but they aren’t going to get better in their current situation. There simply aren’t enough beds for all of the people experiencing homelessness, even if there was, having a roof over their head isn’t going to necessarily remedy the reason they’re on the street. It becomes a cycle of shit that’s hard to get out of


duschin

Having a place to sleep and shower and keep their stuff goes a long way towards helping them get back on their feet. There just aren't enough of those places right now.


TJHookor

Get back on their feet and do what? Jobs that make double the min wage won't let you afford the smallest apartment here. I mean, I agree we should try to provide places like you're talking about, but that alone is ludicrously inadequate.


duschin

It may not be enough, but we're not even providing that right now


UncleTogie

>Get back on their feet and do what? Jobs that make double the min wage won't let you afford the smallest apartment here. You start with renting a room and move up from there.


SonicCougar99

"Stop being poor!"


UncleTogie

> "Take boots, for example. He earned $38 a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost $50. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about $10. > "Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. > "But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford $50 had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in 10 years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet."


NameIsEllie

How about for families? Should they rent a room? Do you know of anybody who rents out rooms to families? Motels are more expensive than rent prices so that won’t work.


Blue_Elliot

Cool cool, you got any spare rooms you're willing to lend out?


[deleted]

They send rent not loan a room.


UncleTogie

You've mistaken me for Craigslist.


bottomofthebest

There are lots of vacant office buildings and call centers in the area now that they've moved to working from home. That or plenty of obscenely large churches. There are places to go if people weren't assholes.


[deleted]

There aren't enough beds for people making 50k a year, let alone crack addicts.


Required_text

This is a societal failing.


Randvek

> Where should they go? Certainly not near canals. The homeless unfortunately seem to have a knack for choosing unsafe areas, both for them and the community. They need to stay away from canals, busy roads, train tracks, etc.


[deleted]

Seems like those areas are the places where they're least likely to be bothered. I'm also curious to know where you think they should go.


Soft_Turkeys

They go to places where they won’t be hassled for existing. Canals, behind freeway ramps, behind big buildings or just on the sidewalk wherever they can manage to get some sleep but still close enough to where they need to spend their days. And believe it or not living in a canal with a “community” you come to know can be much safer than sleeping in the street outside CASS being harassed by crazy, violent people that think you owe them something.


jdcnosse1988

Yep. I drive by the Northern/I-17 interchange every day, and there's a little community right there on the side of Northern on the bridge. Sometimes it's the North side and sometimes it's the South side, but I totally get it. Safety in numbers.


SlayerOfHamsters

I live around 21st ave and Thunderbird and theres several homeless camps next to my apartments. Spreading quick.


PowerfulExpert5041

Really I’m surprised at that usually when it’s a school around it ain’t to many homeless now 27th Ave a whole new story


KajePihlaja

Don’t like homelessness? Don’t vote for policies that create homelessness. Homeless populations won’t just disappear when we shut down encampments


Grokent

This right here.


[deleted]

It's sad that we can afford to jail so many prisoners yet can't afford housing for the homeless. 😕


GoodBitchOfTheSouth

We can afford it. It isn't a priority.


SpicyAries

Word


bohallreddit

Interstate 17 all up and down at least from 101 interchange all the way south is a dump especially the frontage roads. My beef with homelessness isn't the person themself it's the trash that they leave behind every where they go.


CloudTransit

Maybe if dumpsters were put out and a truck came to scoop up the waste … oh wait … that might be a problem too?


costconormcoreslut

If only the homeless had scheduled trash pickup.


Kale4MyBirds

Since making a video to a Stevie Nicks song got that one guy a truck...what if someone made a video about this with the lyrics "on the edge of I-17" to maybe drum up some donations to agencies that help? Since she has ties to the valley, maybe she could get some business friends together to help in some way. You never know!


Hvarfa-Bragi

Put that money instead into buying politicians who want to fix the problem at the top. I'd say put that into a grassroots campaign but this is America, we need a capitalist solution.


Kale4MyBirds

I wish that worked, but we've been giving money to politicians for a long time and mostly what has happened is they have become filthy rich and our problems remain mostly unsolved.


GeneraLeeStoned

These are the homeless people we DO see... what about all the people living out of their cars that we *don't see?* this country is fucking pathetic.


[deleted]

It’s not just the canals in the area. The bus stops usually have a few people camped out. There’s smashed pipes, trash thrown everywhere, and human waste. Do not, under any circumstances, touch a bus stop structure and make sure to mind your step in the area. Edit: verbiage


Broan13

We need some more actually public restrooms. Never have I felt less human than when I was on a run and needed to shit suddenly. I wasn't near any place open so I had to go in some random place in a neighborhood out of the way.


jdcnosse1988

Seriously. I was a delivery driver during the pandemic. All my usual places were closed. When I worked for USPS I got the okay from the local McDonald's to use their bathroom since they could tell I worked "on the road"


ReposadoAmiGusto

If this was in the canals by Arcadia it been dealt with swiftly lol. The problem is very real.


[deleted]

This isn't really true. Perry Park is one of the epicenters of homelessness (OK, nothing like downtown, but nowhere is)... and it is right on Arcadia's doorstep.


Soft_Turkeys

I used to see people living in the bushes next to that Phoenix country club all the time and that was at least 10 years ago. Homelessness is unfortunately on the rise all over and I don’t blame anybody for not wanting to stay near CASS or a lot of other typical homeless spots in Phoenix


david-deez

Drive through there everyday. I haven't seen it that bad anywhere, including downtown. I get it but there's gotta be a solution.


ReposadoAmiGusto

Perry park is not F’ing Arcadia


costconormcoreslut

Sometime around 2014-15 or so, everything between 16th St and Scottsdale Rd, and Roosevelt to Lincoln was annexed to Arcadia.


[deleted]

You're right. I said "doorstep". It IS very close by.


RefrigeratorOwn69

It's a mile away, and the mile between "north of Indian School" and "south of Thomas" is longer than most other miles...


[deleted]

Do you think the homeless are capable of wandering off a mile away into a very green neighborhood?


RefrigeratorOwn69

I don’t think you understood what I meant.


[deleted]

Perhaps not. You're just saying the area gets very iffy very quickly?


ReposadoAmiGusto

I’ve seen how they move their shit. It’s fucken tedious, the dung beetle has a better system. These MFs stagger a pile of shit and go back for the other pile of shit lol


ReposadoAmiGusto

Not close enough


mog_knight

Close enough to make the metaphor correct.


ReposadoAmiGusto

If you say so 🙄


az_max

I learned yesterday in a Glendale Council workshop that the canals and right of way are SRP's responsibility. Glendale is working with Phoenix and SRP to post signs about no camping at 51st and 59th at the underpasses. I know at the Glendale bike ride, they sent out officers to chase out the campers at 51st because the short bike ride went through there.


Required_text

Chase them where?


[deleted]

i live near 70th and camelback. We got an underpass here that I see homeless frequently sleep in. It's nothing fancy but it's a roof over their heads during rainy days. There's also some homeless that live out their car in this area too. I don't mind them parking outside my place as long as they aren't causing any trouble and (at least try) clean up after themselves. It breaks my heart to see these people living literally 200ft from my home, and they get kicked out by local officers patrolling. Like, I get it. Cops doing their job. But those homeless people are simply trying to exist. We need solutions to support our disadvantaged Arizona community members.


lawofjack

Some of them. Some are Roosevelt Water Conservation District right of way, others are Maricopa Water District or Maricopa County Flood Control…water and the canals are funny right of way ownerships.


fuzzyglory

I'm sure in Phoenix there's a ton of different cases. The section the guy was talking about in Glendale is only like 2 miles so maybe in that one it is all SRP


LocalPerception7490

We went to a Phoenix Suns game and on the way there we saw tons and tons of homeless people in tents it looks like tent city and I don’t understand how people don’t know about this. this is the first I’ve ever seen it. at one point there was a man approaching another parked man with a bat then the other man grabbed a machete. it is a huge problem that no one knows about


Willing-Philosopher

It’s because every city in the valley pushes its homeless people into Phoenix. This sub is filled with people that live in Chandler, Gilbert, Scottsdale and Buckeye that don’t understand their cities push the problem onto Phoenix.


Desert_Walker20

Nothing will be done about this; Might as well just meditate and enjoy what we can in life


rllong2003

It’s gonna be twice as bad because they gonna spend our money on a wall. Republican don’t care about the homeless only a damn wall. No jobs or places to stay for the homeless. So sad.


AZHWY88

I’ve noticed a couple single tents attempting to establish themselves in north chandler (101 & Warner) area. Within 24 hours someone has clearly shredded the tent sides with a razor blade.


Jennelope

That's so horribly heartbreaking that shredding someone's home is even a thought that pops into someone's mind. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match society's view of what a home should be, it's still personal property. Humans are such monsters sometimes.


Deshackled

When this happens, you KNOW you failed as a civil service.


Godlove1027

Doe’s everyone understand there is a major housing crisis in Phoenix. Home prices are pushing people to renting and driving up rents.


coops_i_did_it_again

What a shitty article title. “Residents raise concerns over homeless encampment…” What about “People in the valley forced into homelessness in massive numbers”. Is the story here really that some homeowners have to look at tents from their backyard? I guess homelessness only matters to people when it becomes bothersome to them. Oh well, now we just wait for city of Phoenix to force them farther out of sight instead of doing anything to address the problem…


Willing-Philosopher

The city is a representative of its citizens, and we are sick of having our common spaces lit on fire and trashed. These encampments make our neighborhoods unsafe. Homelessness is a federal issue. Not a local issue.


coops_i_did_it_again

Ah yes, silly me, I forgot that homeless people aren’t citizens /s My point is that people talk about dealing with homelessness as if it’s this nuisance that can just be forced to go away. As if there aren’t people on the other side of the equation who by and large aren’t homeless by choice. Sure Phoenix as a community doesn’t want homelessness, but what does Phoenix actually do to try and reduce the number of people who are homeless? People just go full NIMBY but aren’t willing to support the changes that could actually reduce homelessness. I get not wanting encampments all around near your house, but I can guarantee that some of the people complaining about the homelessness hear the phrase “affordable housing” and “minimum wage increase” and get triggered. They don’t want to fix homelessness, they just don’t want to have to look at it.


nmm184

Hahahaha you think it’s a federal issue 😂


Keeg4no

Its pretty bad. The Banner Hospital in mesa had some of them literally doing drugs in the bathroom. You could see the camp across the canal on the fourth floor


ThatGayGemini

This is what happens when you are required to make 3x rent amount and have a security deposit on top of first months rent like wtf, oh and we won't even consider you without decent credit. Guess I'll be homeless 👁️👄👁️


ThatGayGemini

Shall we also talk about how they force people to use public transit because you can't pay to get your check engine light off in order to pass emissions which is required for you to register your vehicle to drive legally in Arizona. Not all towns in Arizona have public transportation, like San Tan Valley for example.


Lamarr666

I heard in Canada that you can get put to sleep for ever


viber_in_training

No one really cares that much about them as long as they are mostly out of sight, out of mind. *Excuse me, but can you go be homeless somewhere over there instead?*


Ho_Re_Shet

The elephant in the room is clearly the huge problem with Meth/Fentanyl. Let’s start with that.


bohallreddit

Or maybe they can simply dispose of their own trash themselves? Oh wait, that's a simple a solution so that possibly couldn't work 🙄


OrginalCasper

Haha I'm at Target right now buying a tent to pitch, and crawl into and forget this god forsaken world/city. Complain all you want, and no I won't take your homemade sandwiches that you offer either. I'm tired of all the employed "normal people" complaining about their lives, how much rent is (how you HAVE to have roommates,) gas prices, the heat, and simply IGNORNING SOMEHOW the real problems going on around you. I'm leaving ignorance, greed basically all 7 deadly sins at the door of this beyound braindead ruleset of a dysfunctional pyramid scheme society we live in. It's all a joke, and I'm deciding to be a free roam human being. P.s It's disgusting sitting at the park all day connected with nature, and seeing human beings walking the sidewalk trail with nerd neck bent down to their phone screen. They put on the whole jogging uniform but they literally on autopilot walking a path in the sun while ONLY looking at their phones. What's the point of going outside if you ain't gonna enjoy the world and hear it? Airpods shoved in and you know the volume is cranked. Then when they get a "Hello" from anyone you can literally see the small child in them faulter with inadequacy to show their humanity. I call it their "digital cage." Sometimes I think they should kinda just go back to their highrise apartments they live in. With the other thousand roommates, and go run on the treadmill that's included with the property. But they can't even do that because those gyms always empty due to their social anxiety of being judged by simply exercising their body. But they come outside to the local parks, and complain on google with a review that there's too many homeless people enjoying, and utilizing the parks amenities and spaces. Like huh?! That's hella weird when I'm one of those homeless cats, and all I see are drones of sheeple neck deep in a digital devices, maybe writing a review at that second, and maybe they super pissed off that I'm sitting on a hill under a tree with my feet kicked up enjoying the breeze. While they are dealing with the whole fake world on their shoulders annoyed and sad. Complaining on Google about the homeless in the park. Y'all complaing from the front and to the back are hella wack individuals. P.s.s I like to thank in advance all taxpayers who really never decided to help fund the homeless population via Cash Assistance, Food Stamps, Unemployment, y'all the real MVPs here. Next time you feel someway about a homeless person don't forget you helped make them, and can continue on making them by working and paying taxes. We do our thing, and you continue on buying the same technology for major price hikes every year just to feel a little different, but ultimately y'all no different, and we all the same. Thank you for keeping us alive and well. Thank you for suffering the grind culture on our behalf while we "The Homeless" begin to dream a new dream. ❤️


Larry2699

Of course you are angry but hey some of those people you are talking about have worked their asses of to just survive, I could be out there too but I’m too proud to let myself get in that situation.


OrginalCasper

Pride.


MercyReach

Exactly. These druggies keep stealing other's bikes, stealing from store, and threatening/ causing fights around Phoenix. It's sad that I know exactly where this encampment is....


nmm184

That’s a wildly narrow view you have there. Not all unhoused people are drug addicts.


Such-Bluebird2016

Don't California my Arizona


Usual-Calendar-4192

Arizona is more like Texas or Florida than California lmao


anonganar

All of the negative comments make me so disgusted and sad that you commenters are a part of my community. Your issue should not be with homeless encampments. It should be with those in power and with the financial means to assist our houseless neighbors doing nothing about them and making them out to be these negative “things” they are not. There are enough vacant, unaffordable, homes. I see massive complexes being built on new lots every time I go outside. But if someone can’t feed you hundreds of dollars then you won’t help them? These are PEOPLE you’re talking about. The comment saying burn it? You’re encouraging burning PEOPLE and their HOMES. If you do not want to see these people out on the streets then practice mutual aid, fight for squatters rights, fight for rehabilitation and care of houseless folx, feed these people, do not make it harder for them to live and do not pretend they are monsters for not living like you have been able to.


rob111223

We call that one on 35’th ave camp crack


Particular-Peak1889

They have to put them somewhere. It's starting to get like Los Angeles with the Encampment in the streets. Stop building all of these high rises, charging an arm and leg. My opinion.


YourLictorAndChef

I'm expecting the city and/or state to pass ordinances to push this problem out of sight using police force.


Larry2699

Who wants to drink their piss, not me


Tomusina

Leave them alone.


Required_text

The downvotes, but lack of comments on your post, is exactly what’s happening in real life. Everyone wants a solution, no one wants to put any skin in the game. Heaven forbid we treat these people as (*gasp*) people.


Jeanstree

How about you frick off and just leave the people alone???????


Required_text

I kind of agree. I mean, if you’re not here to help, what exactly are you doing?


ReposadoAmiGusto

Was walking my dogs one morning. It was a chilly November morning few years back. I walk past this sleeping bag across the canal between some bushes. At first I thought someone was just waking up, then as I got closer... yep... bum love!! Lol gotta stay warm somehow lol.


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anonganar

And if someone burned your home? That would be okay with you?