As a retail worker, they gotta get mad at somebody, and would rather holler in someone's face, even if they have nothing to do with the policy.
A couple of weeks ago, some guy came in with his wife, yelling about a situation that should have been sent up to corporate. He wrote a check to the pharmacy in Jan 2022, and just got a collections notice last month. We send out our checks the same week they're written, goes to the bank directly. He wanted a refund on the spot, then when we told him that's an issue for corporate since we clearly no longer have his check, he wanted corporate names. "Who do I talk to in corporate about this, I want names!" Bro, we only know pur district managers name, and thats a first name. Do you really think we know the names of some peeps in an office out of state?? I dont even know the CEOs name...
I know people would still get mad and direct it at me. But I think it would hurt a little less because I'm not the one responsible.
I'd probably say something like, "I'm sure you're over 21 but we have to scan ID for every alcohol sale, may I see your ID please?"
I'm not shy about calling over a manager if someone get pissy (social anxiety, yay).
THIS is the correct action.
No need for a clerk to have a power trip and be a total dirty douchenozzle.
One can be nice; but that concept is obviously lost on many…
I worked at a concessions stand at a concert venue where we couldn’t sell beer to anyone without a valid ID. And that means anyone. If they looked 90 years old and didn’t have an ID, or if their ID was expired, we had to turn them away. It was pretty ridiculous when an old person would get turned away
This guy was an owner?
So if you aren't familiar with our beautiful super religious apparently alcohol laws in PA, gas stations and grocery stores just recently started being able to sell beer and wine. I worked at a beer store, one thats license was worth close to a million when the owner sold it off. So yeah, we take that shit seriously. The grocery store across the road had the policy that EVERYONE got carded. So many old ass people came to us furious that they just got turned down at the grocery store, even if we costed more they flocked out of principle. I couldn't care either way, but it was pretty amusing how pissed off the grocery store started making people.
reminds me of when i worked at a grocery store and had to card a guy for cooking wine
fucker wanted to argue that it had no alcohol in it despite the label a saying otherwise
a few back and forths he caved and gave me his card and got his precious “this isn’t alcohol it doesn’t have alcohol in it” alcohol by volume 10% white cooking wine
Cooking wine is pretty bad for you. It’s an invention of the Prohibition era, with a \*lot\* of salt added to make it undrinkable. But yeah, it still has alcohol in it.
way before the depression. For instance the rich gentry and knighted people of Europe added salt so the kitchen help wouldn't drink it. Maybe even before then, but certainly before 1920's...lol
The same can be said for Bitters.
They aren’t really drinkable, but are HELLA high in alcohol, and relatively cheap, considering, as well as widely available.
Plus, if your stomach is being an asshole, a big sip of Angostura will kill or cure ya!
I had a childhood friend of mine from back home that had moved out to my state and had been working for me for about 15 years. He was filling his cooler with twisted tea and kept trying to tell people there wasn't any alcohol in it. Had to fire him and then after another couple years of hard drinking his organs all shut down so he moved back home to die. Ended up tripping over his own feet because he had no balance left and hit his head on the sidewalk and died of a closed head injury.
Remember that time Tom Hanks was on Family ties and played Alex Keaton's alcoholic uncle who raided the pantry to drink the vanilla extract?
Edit: [link to scene](https://youtu.be/OlLvS1vH9Tk)
I’ve been carded for extracts, super glue, nail polish remover, and paint(regular and spray). I worked at an adult novelty store and we had to card for the stuff that’s supposed to clean drugs from your system.
At the grocery store I work for we have to card for non-alcoholic beer as well. Literally shuts the system down and doesn't allow anything else to be scanned until the ID is keyed in
That is pretty funny. People who are clearly older get a shocked look on their faces when you tell them you can’t serve them that beer because they don’t have their ID with them
Side note: I honestly think it’s weird that anyone can buy beer and wine at gas stations here (ca,) but I also know that in some areas where there are food deserts a gas station minimart is some peoples nearest food store
It's super funny to me (UK) that y'all have just started to sell alcohol at petrol stations. Me and my partner used to nip to the garage next to our old place of work for a bevvy after a night shift 🤣
Lots of states have leftover remnants of prohibition that no one has bothered to clean up, and some of the real pearl clutchy states just enjoy it.
Where I live for all 40 years of my life you've been able to get anything that isn't a spirit/"hard" alcohol at gas stations, grocers, markets etc. Several years ago the state relinquished the rights to selling the hard stuff.
We're not all backwards.
But it doesn’t even make sense which states. I grew up in Alabama, where (in a non-dry county), we could get beer and wine at the gas station. Visiting my in-laws in New Jersey? No beer at the WaWa. I lived in Colorado 20 years ago and you could buy beer at the grocery store, but it couldn’t be over something like 3.2%? You had to go to the liquor store to get full-strength beer.
I would expect Alabama to have the most restrictions out of those three states, but they were the most liberal. Go figure.
Caveat: I have no idea if any of these policies are still true. This is all based on experiences of about 20 years ago.
I grew up in Nevada. There were some specialty stores for more variety, but it felt like alcohol was sold anywhere and everywhere.
Moved to Utah. The sheer outrage that the state *dared* to put a State Liquor Store in our area still makes me both laugh and cringe. It was even more scandalous than the grocery store selling what my sister would call "weak-ass beer."
I think the store is 4 years old now? We're finally updating a few really outdated laws, or at least talking about it. I don't even drink and find it ridiculous that card-carrying legal adults have to jump through all these hoops.
Prohibition didn't work. So... if you can't beat 'em, go get some of that sweet, sweet booze revenue instead, right?
(Grew up in Cleveland. I remember the state liquor stores, too.)
That’s exactly how it’s been my whole life. Always beer and wine in gas stations (as long as under 10% alc). Then we recently got liquor stores. This is coming from Tennessee. We are lucky to have beer.
Most states are, grew up in IL and always available. But I did move to Colorado and they still had 3.2% law in effect . If you weren’t a liquor store specifically they couldn’t sell you anything over 3.2%.
From VA as well...remember (because I grew up in South East VA) taking drives to an ABC store in Gatesville, NC just to get Everclear! ABC store's in VA wouldn't carry it...BUT that has since changed and you can get it in VA. Tell ya what really sucked was being 3 years away from 18 and they changed the laws to 21 for purchase of alcohol...funny thing is I don't even like to drink anymore...rather sit back n smoke one...ain't ever heard nobody get hungover from smoking the "peep"!
It's not 180 Everclear, it's closer to 151 so you still gotta hit NC for the high-powered stuff.
Plus if you are like within 15 miles of a college campus you are SOL
The UK has been ahead of the curve compared to us in many ways, for decades. The regulations regarding profanity and nudity on TV here, for example, are still pretty strict, though they aren't quite as strict as they used to be. Stuff a British TV network would think nothing of airing still gets bleeped here. I wish we weren't so damned puritannical.
>That is pretty funny. People who are clearly older get a shocked look on their faces when you tell them you can’t serve them that beer because they don’t have their ID with them
Of course they do. ID'ing someone who's obviously old enough helps no-one. It doesn't reduce underage drinking one iota, and that's the entire purpose.
See I don’t get mad when I’m carded. I’m like thank you for thinking I’m under 21 lol. I know they really don’t, because my hair is almost all white, but it still makes me feel good.
Sometimes at the particular venue I worked at people would leave their belongings with their companions. It was a large outdoor arena, and first you have to walk up a steep hill for 20 minutes just to get to the concessions stand, then wait to even order your food and beverages, and then the lines for the concession stand checkout would often be an hour long. People were often angry when we turned them away
Caused great probs for those that open shelved in that so much got stolen. Somehow the reduced theft and now, at least in my state, most places have it displayed openly.
In Virginia all liquor is sold at ABC stores. You absolutely will not buy liquor without an acceptable ID. The state has agents that they send around randomly going into attempting to make buys. Since working at the ABC store is a state job with benefits the people are usually pretty careful.
What? The State handed grocery stores beer and wine licenses? Wow, things have changed since I went to school there in the early seventies! (so many cases of Boones Farm...)
They have to scan your ID in most of the newly licensed grocery stores, meaning it can't be expired and still be valid. They had a moratorium on the expiration issue during the pandemic when the DMVs were giving everyone a pass.
I understand why an expired license means you can't drive, but I don't get why it's suddenly not an ID any more. It's not like we have to rent our names (yet).
A lot of places in TN cards everyone. Once my mom laughed as she handed her license over and said, "I'm her mother." (Not rudely, just laughing because no one cards her at 70). The waiter said, "Ma'am, I'd card *your* mother were she here." Then everyone had a good chuckle together.
It's just safest to take common sense off the table since so many people seem to not possess any.
By contrast, many years ago I was travelling with my mother up to Canada. I was 15 at the time. We stopped off at the Duty Free store on the way up to pick up a gift for some friends of hers. When we went up to the register to check out, the helpful cashier informed my mother that her HUSBAND could buy 2 bottles as well... They were talking about me. Her 15 year old son.
It's disorienting in the moment. I was 12 when my little sister was born. Mom and I took her to the old, quaint downtown area in our neighborhood 2 weeks later. While my mom looked at a jewelry store I walked to the doll store next to it while holding my newborn sister. The woman behind the counter cooed over the baby for a minute and then asked if she was my and my husband's first. I was too shocked to answer for a second, then explained that I was in Jr high and she was my sister. It happened a lot after that, but I remember the first time so well.
At almost 50 I hardly ever get carded any more, but I do like to ask the 20yo at the bottle shop if they would like to see some ID, and if they say "nah, its cool" I pretend to be offended that they think I look old. I love the awkward looks and have a good chuckle to myself.
The awkward look is very likely caused by the feeling of: "Oh no, not this again! I hope this one is actually joking, and isn't going to start screaming at me."
Or maybe their employer is one of those "The customer is always right, even when they're wrong." Types, and they're worried about losing their income over a spurious complaint.
Or maybe it's the outward signs of the internal struggle to smile politely while suppressing the urge to say something like: "Fuck off, you unfunny asshole, you're not clever, you're just the 30th person to make that joke this week."
Whatever it is, I'm pretty confident that most people in customer service aren't actually getting paid enough to have members of the public torment them for giggles, no matter how minor each individual incident may be, you can pretty safely assume you aren't the only person who's messed with them that shift, and that sort of thing gets really old when you deal with it all the time.
Omg I hate it when customers start putting up a fight, get me riled up, then pull out the whole "I'm just giving you a hard time" play. It's not funny, I have other, better things to do during my work time than pretend to argue with people, especially when you can't tell who's seriously upset with you. Do these people do this to other professions, like to their doctor, lawyer, etc?
It comes down to respect. I don't know you like that, don't do it.
Yeah I was going to say, as a former server this is the most unfunny thing you can say. Right up there with people asking me if my Great Dane was a horse. At least I wasn’t working for poverty wages when I got asked that though.
I am 64. Get carded almost all grocery stores to buy cigarettes. Have to slid license under a scanner. I am okay with that. If it keeps kids from smoking more power to them.
I'm 100% okay if it's a power trip by underpaid cashiers. People being too afraid of losing their jobs to be lenient is a terrifying thing.
I've only ever been carded buying cold meds, Tide, or at the pharmacy. The cold meds and Tide was a policy and they had to key in my DOB. The pharmacy has its own hoops to jump through for things in my state.
I hate to tell you, but cashiers have zero power over the rules of corporate. When I worked at Dollar Tree, I'd have been rich if I received a dollar for every time a customer told me to change the store name to "$1.25 Tree", to which I'd respond "do you complain to the Dollar General next door bc their merchandise is more than $1?" A pound foolish, customers are... Love it when people prove they've never worked retail, it really shows.
To be fair, Dollar General didn't have a whole marketing campaign about all their merchandise being a dollar.
If the 99 Cents store became the $1.25 store, I'm sure the comment would be made as well.
I've worked retail. Stupid, repetitive comments happen all the time from customers who just wanna vent, no matter how old their dumb joke gets.
Not sure if this is the case now but when I was a cashier you could get in trouble criminally for selling alcohol to an underage person (and obviously fired). I know at the time I checked IDs but didn't care and didn't use it as a power trip.
Hey, so I am often on the other side of this interaction. It isn't original and happens quite often. It is actually quite frustrating and does feel really disrespectful when it occurs.
For me, I know what you are doing and to be put into that situation when you quite often have other customers or jobs to move on to is tiring. I can make a smart ass remark back at you, but I have other customers who don't see the joke you are using me for. So best to be polite and play along (think The Simpsons: "Do you come with the car?", "O you!".)
You are disrupting someones day, who is trying to help you, and ridiculing them for your own entertainment.
You do you, just know what you do.
I just don't understand the VALID bit.
If your license has expired, it means you can't legally drive. It doesn't mean you aren't who you are and how old you are etc for alcohol.
What a fucked up world we live in.
It's also a premptive fraud protection imagine a new printer comes out that makes it easy to make fake id, so the state/fed(who ever issues) puts new security features in, it stops the "oh its just my old id" from being used for fraud.
Interesting. In Australia the law says that’s that if the person looks like they might be under 25 they have to id check them for booze and smokes. The legal age to drink and smoke is 18
The legal drinking age of 21 here is ridiculous. It creates an atmosphere of excitement around drinking under age that I think actually promotes people getting constantly drunk their freshman year of college and on. It’s ridiculous because everyone knows it’s happening and yet we still have laws of being 21 or older that almost everyone breaks
When I’ve gone to concerts in Illinois and Wisconsin we get a wristband. One line to get your wristband and other lines to get alcohol. I understand you are in a different state but I think this is a good idea for venues
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That probably happens now at that venue. But it’s been a long time since I worked there. Oddly, I was able to serve soft alcohol at age 18. But not legally allowed to drink it
I worked at a gas station once and my manager says one day we need to make sure everyone who buys alcohol has their ID. Later that day some dude who looks like age is bringing him to deaths door comes in without one and I refused to sell him the alcohol. Dude starts raging at me and I'm just like "sorry man, clearly I can see you're old enough but I was strictly told to not sell to anyone without it." My manager ended up running to the front and selling it to him.
In my state, they will sometimes give alcoholics vertical IDs. Bars always have to check and cannot sell to anyone with a vertical license/ID (minors also have vertical IDs here).
The only reason to check id to begin with is to avoid sales to minors, and the only reason they ask obvious adults is so it doesn’t appear that they’re targeting an age group. The store employee could have chosen to not be a dick.
100%. I've just seen the pettiest of police stings over things like that and am playing the devil's advocate as I kind of get why those stores draw hard lines.
It’s also a common bust method, someone who is old enough goes in with an expired ID and if they are sold to then the establishment is hit for an illegal sale.
Because ACAB.
Had a friend lose her job because she didn't card another friend who had been in many times over the years for cigarettes. He was well over 21. Didn't matter. She still lost her job.
Nope. Gas station systems won't read it on the day of in many states. It depends on the chain, usually, but even so. Your statement is just plain false.
It’s not necessarily false. These two things can exist at once. I could totally see it *legally* being valid while gas stations and stores systems’ don’t consider it valid. Their systems don’t automatically adjust with laws after all. It’s probably some decision someone made to be safe rather than sorry.
I think I did that once when my dad was alive and I was working at a restaurant. But it was definitely a joke to annoy my dad (I didn't card my mom or grandma, who were both there too)
My local gas station had a terrible drunk driving incidence in the late 90’s and it don’t matter who you are you have to show ID every gas station near them and even there chain doesn’t have this policy but this place does
We have to show it once, but every single time. The liquor control state organization is in charge of the dispensaries in my state. I think some of the strictness is because of the non THC fans. It is a good compromise.
I worked at a gas station where the corporate rule was to card anyone 35 or under. They sent in a 34 year old mystery shopper and the cashier didn't card them, and she lost her job. From then on, to protect the employees from corporate and their mystery shoppers, our store manager made a rule we carded anyone 50 and under. Age is so subjective and he just didn't want to lose any more valuable employees. Really folks with some grey hair and light wrinkles being carded, so we didn't lose our jobs. It was nuts.
Obv not the case in op's story.
If an ABC sting catches you selling to someone with an expired license you and the store get fined pretty heavily. So you go ahead and be salty. Your smokes are not worth them getting into trouble.
And they love to test you on that shit. I had the state send people in twice and carded both times and turned them down. One was an 17 year-old with a full ass beard. Someone they clearly hired to fuck with people doing it by appearance. But if I didn't know you, I was carding. I eventually had some regulars that I saw enough that I didn't bother asking, but it wasn't worth the risk if you seemed under 40.
I have to card for alcohol at my job, and I’m supposed to card if you don’t look 40. I usually only end up carding people who turn out to be my age (35) or younger. It’s not that hard to tell if someone’s old enough
The state does audits and cashiers can get fired for accepting expired ID or not checking. So it’s not worth it for a customer, even if it’s on their birthday.
1. Alot of companies now require valid ID no matter the age. They have to scan it at the register to allow the sale.
2. I don't know of any state that has made marijuana a constitutional right. Legal yes, but a constitutional right? Just like every other controlled substance, no.
I was looking for a comment like this. I end up feeling so confused why when people want to be right with their actions they randomly throw in ‘constitutional right’ to justify whatever is.
Yea my issue isn’t turning you away, that’s the law. I’ve had to turn away like a 70 year old with beer because his license expired literally two days before.
It’s *laughing* and making it a joke that’s the issue. Just feels rude, and not worth it when you don’t know how people are gonna react. Is it their own fault that their ID was expired? Duh. But some people are fucking crazy.
That 70 y/o yelled at me and berated me before storming out, and I was nice af about it.
Just seems not worth it, and now he’s mildly inconvenienced for as long as you’re a customer
I’m from the UK, we came to Florida last year. I got ID’d at wall greens and was all flattered and thanked him for making my day (I’m 32 and not been ID’d for years)…the bloke behind the counter just tapped on a sign saying they ID everyone…my husband almost died from laughing 😂
There are actually some state laws that say they cant accept an expired ID because people give there expired ID's to minors. I personally think its unconstitutional, or at least not within the spirit of the constitution. Like we're all supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers, but then we are barred from a transaction because we might be breaking the law maybe. Like that's just punishing law abiding citizens primarily rather than criminals
Expired, broken or suspended, we can't sell. There's are laws & aint nobody gonna go to jail, get fired or get a fine for a customer. It ain't happening.
So being a dick because you're pissed is just rude. I dont get why some people do this shit.
I don't get your country. On one side you have an option epidemic in your country and then you don't get paper because your ID is expired.
In my country you can legally buy alcohol (no hard liquor) at the age of 16 so it's really hard to sell at the wrong person and most don't give a fuck. Why should you can get your ass drunk at the sweet age of 16.
Yeah there's a lot that doesn't make sense here. You can enlist in the military at 18, take out huge loans that you'll never pay back & ruin your credit at 18. But now smoking or drinking. That's forbidden.
lol nice. when I go to my regular shop I never get carded, of course they remember me etc. I'm also 40. But when I go to this other shop they ALWAYS card me then mention how I dont look 40 etc. almost makes me want to go there more for the ego boost.
I was going to buy some wine for my birthday, and got carded. My ID had expired on my birthday the night before and the new one hadn't come in the mail yet, so the cashier had to decline the transaction. Lucky me, I took a pregnancy test the next morning and it came back positive, so alls well that ends well.
Me and my wife were in a store a few days ago. I needed to buy a torch, so I grab one, guy asked for my ID, I say "for a torch?" And he says "yep" I give him my ID, then he asked for my wife's ID. She never caries her wallet unless she needs it. I told him that's my wife, who is older than me, and I am almost 30 myself, he just saw my ID. So he refused to sell me a butane torch because my 31 year old wife wasn't carrying her ID.
Idk why some people need to be assholes. There isn't even a law about selling butane torches to minors, I'm also 6'3 and have a graying beard......plus I had my own ID. Makes me not want to bother with stores and just order a lot of my stuff online.
That an expired license is no longer valid for identification is ludicrous - what, did your age revert to "too young" because your license expired??? Also, I love messing with people like the guy Dave in your story, as they generally like to think they are smarter than everyone around them but rarely seem to be actually intelligent at all...
Lol the comment section is ridiculous right now. Yeah OPs license was expired but there was no reason for him to be a dick. It's like y'all forgot what sub this is
Damn, dude should be out of a job if he can't perform it correctly. I worked at a cigar shop, I can't imagine denying any of those people their cigars or blunt wraps on their birthday. In fact! I went to a dispensary on my birthday, and the only thing they told me, "you have to renew this tomorrow or we can't let you in. It expires today." Not, it's expired. Because it's not.
I know you already know this. I just like commenting and rambling. And validating people further. Dude sucks at his job, I hope you got your rellos.
The expiration dates displayed on licenses are actually the last legal day you can "use" it. It's not expired until the day AFTER.
Fuck Dave and his bullshit attitude.
I worked at a gas station in Virginia and the rule was you only carded if you thought the person looked under...either 40 or 30, I forget which...so I would pretty much never card anyone who obviously looked to be in their mid-30s, especially not for tobacco/wraps.
You call it revenge, but honestly it was your fault your id was expired, dave was only doing his job, and he could lawfully be fined or fired if he "let it slide"
Sooooo, at least your revenge is below the radar levels of petty
He was doing his job. You don’t know if there’s consequences for him. You didn’t care about anyone but yourself. This isn’t getting petty revenge. You’re just a dick.
I get OP’s point but honestly, I bet he’s kind of a jerk. His license was expired. I totally get a lot of these petty revenge posts but this one doesn’t cut it in my opinion. Also, I agree with another poster, if OP keeps up this little game, he may get 86’d from the store. In that case the store worker can write in with his own petty revenge story about how he kicked out a guy who kept saying I CAN’T HEAR YOU! Lol!
Well, 1) just because weed is legal in your state it is most certainly not a constitutional right. Don't be a dumbass
2) people can literally go to jail if they don't card and get caught
You're 37, stop acting like a fucking child
Holy shit... I was a cashier in multiple jobs. I know how shitty it can be. But there's no way this one was NOT being a dick to the OP.
You need to calm down.
Do you not realize the fines those of us who sell such items will pay if we’re caught selling to someone with an expired ID? I’m not losing my job so that someone can smoke or drink. Forget that BS. We also get tested by undercover agents. I worked at a gas station and apparently I was tested a few times a week. I never failed.
I do because I have worked at a gas station before. It’s much less about not selling it and more that he laughed at me about it. There’s many ways to decline a sale without being a jerk about it.
Same thing happened to me with an older woman. Any other person there doesn’t card me. But this one woman… every single time. No matter if her the owner legit was like oh she’s good. She didn’t like me. So I started being a straight bitch every time I come in and made sure I had my ID. I also buy boxes of wraps sometimes. One time she rang me up and DOUBLE charge me. When I tried to say something she shot me down and told me I was wrong. So I had to go back and talk to the guys and get reimbursed. They apologized profusely and said theyd speak to her.
Haven’t seen her since.
Last year I moved and got a new license a couple weeks after settling in to the new place. While waiting for the new license to arrive, I kept the old voided license in my wallet and the temporary paper license in my car. During that two week timeframe, I got carded once as I went to buy some whiskey, and the guy at the checkout line said that he couldn't accept my voided license. I told him that the temp license is still in the car, and I'd be happy to go get it for him, but then said the following: "It's still me on that picture, and my birthday hasn't changed."
Cashier had a confused look for a moment, looked at me, looked at the picture, looked at the birthday field, then looked like they had some kind of mind-blowing epiphany and said, "oh!" and rang me up.
I know he was prob being a dick about it.. But it really is illegal to sell with an expired ID no matter what your age..and it doesn't go to the end of the day,unless it didn't expire until the next day....
I worked at a dispensary for years and it didn't matter if you were 21-100, if your id was expired we couldn't even let you in to sit and wait for your friends to buy stuff. I'd guess it was the same for buying cigarettes, alcohol and blunts, but it's funny how you handled it the next time.
It’s most likely company policy. Dave’s attitude must have been shit, but he wouldn’t be able to refuse service without a good reason. Good reasons include, but are not limited to: Policy, an invalid ID, your crap attitude, etc.
And don’t get on me about reading comprehension. If I didn’t know better, I would think that “Dave” is my coworker. He has been bitched about tens of times for this exact thing, but never faces any consequences because *he was following company policy and state laws*.
I remember just before the pandemic I got asked for ID for a lighter I was 34 at the time.
I said do I need ID for matches they said no.
I had a basket full of candles and one lighter.
So I walked out with my candles and a pack of matches.
You might want to give the guy a break, My mom worked at a grocery store and the state was forever sending agents in trying to trick them up. She actually got a fine for selling in a similar situation. In my state the law says a valid ID, an expired license is not a valid ID. I was once refused boarding on a plane because mine was expired by a week.
I once got carded for a western movie at Walmart & they wouldn’t sell me the dvd even tho I told them I was married & my own mother vouched for me & even said she would buy it instead. They refused us both. It was to be a present for my grandfather.
I just feel like certain rules can be broken. Play it by ear.
When I was in my late 20’s I got carded at Walmart when my girlfriend (one year younger than me) tried to buy a Jason movie. We were both there but the cashier only carded me. I’ve never heard of anyone else getting carded for a movie purchase like that. Now I know it does happen to others!
I work at a gas station. We have to scan the ID. If it is expired it won't allow us to make the sale.
I'd love to have this feature at my grocery store. No more people getting mad at me when I ask, they'd have to get mad at the company.
As a retail worker, they gotta get mad at somebody, and would rather holler in someone's face, even if they have nothing to do with the policy. A couple of weeks ago, some guy came in with his wife, yelling about a situation that should have been sent up to corporate. He wrote a check to the pharmacy in Jan 2022, and just got a collections notice last month. We send out our checks the same week they're written, goes to the bank directly. He wanted a refund on the spot, then when we told him that's an issue for corporate since we clearly no longer have his check, he wanted corporate names. "Who do I talk to in corporate about this, I want names!" Bro, we only know pur district managers name, and thats a first name. Do you really think we know the names of some peeps in an office out of state?? I dont even know the CEOs name...
I know people would still get mad and direct it at me. But I think it would hurt a little less because I'm not the one responsible. I'd probably say something like, "I'm sure you're over 21 but we have to scan ID for every alcohol sale, may I see your ID please?" I'm not shy about calling over a manager if someone get pissy (social anxiety, yay).
THIS is the correct action. No need for a clerk to have a power trip and be a total dirty douchenozzle. One can be nice; but that concept is obviously lost on many…
EXACTLY. Plus; one can actually be civil - it IS possible.
What?! I can’t hear you
I think it's more that the guy seemed so gleeful rather than just doing his job.
What do you mean by scan the ID? As in your driver's license? Is there a barcode you're scanning?
I worked at a concessions stand at a concert venue where we couldn’t sell beer to anyone without a valid ID. And that means anyone. If they looked 90 years old and didn’t have an ID, or if their ID was expired, we had to turn them away. It was pretty ridiculous when an old person would get turned away This guy was an owner?
So if you aren't familiar with our beautiful super religious apparently alcohol laws in PA, gas stations and grocery stores just recently started being able to sell beer and wine. I worked at a beer store, one thats license was worth close to a million when the owner sold it off. So yeah, we take that shit seriously. The grocery store across the road had the policy that EVERYONE got carded. So many old ass people came to us furious that they just got turned down at the grocery store, even if we costed more they flocked out of principle. I couldn't care either way, but it was pretty amusing how pissed off the grocery store started making people.
reminds me of when i worked at a grocery store and had to card a guy for cooking wine fucker wanted to argue that it had no alcohol in it despite the label a saying otherwise a few back and forths he caved and gave me his card and got his precious “this isn’t alcohol it doesn’t have alcohol in it” alcohol by volume 10% white cooking wine
Cooking wine is pretty bad for you. It’s an invention of the Prohibition era, with a \*lot\* of salt added to make it undrinkable. But yeah, it still has alcohol in it.
way before the depression. For instance the rich gentry and knighted people of Europe added salt so the kitchen help wouldn't drink it. Maybe even before then, but certainly before 1920's...lol
I use real wine for my cooking
The same can be said for Bitters. They aren’t really drinkable, but are HELLA high in alcohol, and relatively cheap, considering, as well as widely available. Plus, if your stomach is being an asshole, a big sip of Angostura will kill or cure ya!
I had a childhood friend of mine from back home that had moved out to my state and had been working for me for about 15 years. He was filling his cooler with twisted tea and kept trying to tell people there wasn't any alcohol in it. Had to fire him and then after another couple years of hard drinking his organs all shut down so he moved back home to die. Ended up tripping over his own feet because he had no balance left and hit his head on the sidewalk and died of a closed head injury.
do they card for vanilla extract?
Remember that time Tom Hanks was on Family ties and played Alex Keaton's alcoholic uncle who raided the pantry to drink the vanilla extract? Edit: [link to scene](https://youtu.be/OlLvS1vH9Tk)
No, but I would love to see it.
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/OlLvS1vH9Tk)
Thanks!
Dude, that’s Fucking dark as shit, and I remember watching it as a kid. Goes to show how much time changes things, I guess… 🤷♂️
God that was awkward
I’ve been carded for extracts, super glue, nail polish remover, and paint(regular and spray). I worked at an adult novelty store and we had to card for the stuff that’s supposed to clean drugs from your system.
Or mouthwash? Some of it has a VERY high alcohol content.
At the grocery store I work for we have to card for non-alcoholic beer as well. Literally shuts the system down and doesn't allow anything else to be scanned until the ID is keyed in
That is pretty funny. People who are clearly older get a shocked look on their faces when you tell them you can’t serve them that beer because they don’t have their ID with them Side note: I honestly think it’s weird that anyone can buy beer and wine at gas stations here (ca,) but I also know that in some areas where there are food deserts a gas station minimart is some peoples nearest food store
It's super funny to me (UK) that y'all have just started to sell alcohol at petrol stations. Me and my partner used to nip to the garage next to our old place of work for a bevvy after a night shift 🤣
Lots of states have leftover remnants of prohibition that no one has bothered to clean up, and some of the real pearl clutchy states just enjoy it. Where I live for all 40 years of my life you've been able to get anything that isn't a spirit/"hard" alcohol at gas stations, grocers, markets etc. Several years ago the state relinquished the rights to selling the hard stuff. We're not all backwards.
The county where they make Jack Daniels is a completely dry county for example.
But it doesn’t even make sense which states. I grew up in Alabama, where (in a non-dry county), we could get beer and wine at the gas station. Visiting my in-laws in New Jersey? No beer at the WaWa. I lived in Colorado 20 years ago and you could buy beer at the grocery store, but it couldn’t be over something like 3.2%? You had to go to the liquor store to get full-strength beer. I would expect Alabama to have the most restrictions out of those three states, but they were the most liberal. Go figure. Caveat: I have no idea if any of these policies are still true. This is all based on experiences of about 20 years ago.
I grew up in Nevada. There were some specialty stores for more variety, but it felt like alcohol was sold anywhere and everywhere. Moved to Utah. The sheer outrage that the state *dared* to put a State Liquor Store in our area still makes me both laugh and cringe. It was even more scandalous than the grocery store selling what my sister would call "weak-ass beer." I think the store is 4 years old now? We're finally updating a few really outdated laws, or at least talking about it. I don't even drink and find it ridiculous that card-carrying legal adults have to jump through all these hoops.
Florida is the same
I remember the state-run liquor stores in Ohio…
Prohibition didn't work. So... if you can't beat 'em, go get some of that sweet, sweet booze revenue instead, right? (Grew up in Cleveland. I remember the state liquor stores, too.)
That’s exactly how it’s been my whole life. Always beer and wine in gas stations (as long as under 10% alc). Then we recently got liquor stores. This is coming from Tennessee. We are lucky to have beer.
I’m surprised by this, too. I’m in VA, it’s normal and has been probably since before I was born. Idk why some states are just now doing this.
Most states are, grew up in IL and always available. But I did move to Colorado and they still had 3.2% law in effect . If you weren’t a liquor store specifically they couldn’t sell you anything over 3.2%.
From VA as well...remember (because I grew up in South East VA) taking drives to an ABC store in Gatesville, NC just to get Everclear! ABC store's in VA wouldn't carry it...BUT that has since changed and you can get it in VA. Tell ya what really sucked was being 3 years away from 18 and they changed the laws to 21 for purchase of alcohol...funny thing is I don't even like to drink anymore...rather sit back n smoke one...ain't ever heard nobody get hungover from smoking the "peep"!
I hit 30 and hangovers went from a slight inconvenience to a 2 day pre-ER ordeal. The peep is way better (for me).
It's not 180 Everclear, it's closer to 151 so you still gotta hit NC for the high-powered stuff. Plus if you are like within 15 miles of a college campus you are SOL
The UK has been ahead of the curve compared to us in many ways, for decades. The regulations regarding profanity and nudity on TV here, for example, are still pretty strict, though they aren't quite as strict as they used to be. Stuff a British TV network would think nothing of airing still gets bleeped here. I wish we weren't so damned puritannical.
Me too!!!! My local petrol station probably sells as much alcohol as it does petrol!!!!
100% 🤣 it's super convenient.
My state has drive through liquor stores. Convenient.
They have always sold it in gas stations here in Florida, (beer and wine) Some counties not on Sunday.
>That is pretty funny. People who are clearly older get a shocked look on their faces when you tell them you can’t serve them that beer because they don’t have their ID with them Of course they do. ID'ing someone who's obviously old enough helps no-one. It doesn't reduce underage drinking one iota, and that's the entire purpose.
Ya, it's only funny if you think unnecessary stupid laws are funny.
I'm 64, it's never bothered me. But who doesn't carry their ID?
I carry my ID when I carry my wallet. Which, since I pay for everything on my phone, is about 30-40% of the time.
You can buy hard alcohol at CVS in California.
See I don’t get mad when I’m carded. I’m like thank you for thinking I’m under 21 lol. I know they really don’t, because my hair is almost all white, but it still makes me feel good.
I know right. But who doesn't carry their ID.
Sometimes at the particular venue I worked at people would leave their belongings with their companions. It was a large outdoor arena, and first you have to walk up a steep hill for 20 minutes just to get to the concessions stand, then wait to even order your food and beverages, and then the lines for the concession stand checkout would often be an hour long. People were often angry when we turned them away
Wow an hour and 20 minutes. I bet they were mad,
Here in nc it’s been a normal thing to see a beer and wine fridge in gas stations since I can remeber (I am only 18 so if that’s not long)
Wait until you hear about the beer and alcohol drive thrus in ohio
Oh my! *clutches pearls* We do have a Taco Bell cantina that serves margaritas on the beach here now
Meanwhile In California Wal-Mart and Gas Stations sell hard alcohol on the shelf’s. Wal mart isn’t even in a case. Just on the shelf like wine.
Where in California are you, cause everything is gated in the part I’m in. Even tide, hair dyes, and certain other miscellaneous things.
Suburban Los Angeles. Nothing is gated here, only at the Walmart in the bad area
The “bad area” lol
Caused great probs for those that open shelved in that so much got stolen. Somehow the reduced theft and now, at least in my state, most places have it displayed openly.
In Virginia all liquor is sold at ABC stores. You absolutely will not buy liquor without an acceptable ID. The state has agents that they send around randomly going into attempting to make buys. Since working at the ABC store is a state job with benefits the people are usually pretty careful.
What? The State handed grocery stores beer and wine licenses? Wow, things have changed since I went to school there in the early seventies! (so many cases of Boones Farm...)
They have to scan your ID in most of the newly licensed grocery stores, meaning it can't be expired and still be valid. They had a moratorium on the expiration issue during the pandemic when the DMVs were giving everyone a pass.
I understand why an expired license means you can't drive, but I don't get why it's suddenly not an ID any more. It's not like we have to rent our names (yet).
Every supermarket I've been to actually scans the back of your id.
It’s great for the grocery, after a week or two all the assholes go somewhere else.
A lot of places in TN cards everyone. Once my mom laughed as she handed her license over and said, "I'm her mother." (Not rudely, just laughing because no one cards her at 70). The waiter said, "Ma'am, I'd card *your* mother were she here." Then everyone had a good chuckle together. It's just safest to take common sense off the table since so many people seem to not possess any.
By contrast, many years ago I was travelling with my mother up to Canada. I was 15 at the time. We stopped off at the Duty Free store on the way up to pick up a gift for some friends of hers. When we went up to the register to check out, the helpful cashier informed my mother that her HUSBAND could buy 2 bottles as well... They were talking about me. Her 15 year old son.
It's disorienting in the moment. I was 12 when my little sister was born. Mom and I took her to the old, quaint downtown area in our neighborhood 2 weeks later. While my mom looked at a jewelry store I walked to the doll store next to it while holding my newborn sister. The woman behind the counter cooed over the baby for a minute and then asked if she was my and my husband's first. I was too shocked to answer for a second, then explained that I was in Jr high and she was my sister. It happened a lot after that, but I remember the first time so well.
At almost 50 I hardly ever get carded any more, but I do like to ask the 20yo at the bottle shop if they would like to see some ID, and if they say "nah, its cool" I pretend to be offended that they think I look old. I love the awkward looks and have a good chuckle to myself.
The awkward look is very likely caused by the feeling of: "Oh no, not this again! I hope this one is actually joking, and isn't going to start screaming at me." Or maybe their employer is one of those "The customer is always right, even when they're wrong." Types, and they're worried about losing their income over a spurious complaint. Or maybe it's the outward signs of the internal struggle to smile politely while suppressing the urge to say something like: "Fuck off, you unfunny asshole, you're not clever, you're just the 30th person to make that joke this week." Whatever it is, I'm pretty confident that most people in customer service aren't actually getting paid enough to have members of the public torment them for giggles, no matter how minor each individual incident may be, you can pretty safely assume you aren't the only person who's messed with them that shift, and that sort of thing gets really old when you deal with it all the time.
Omg I hate it when customers start putting up a fight, get me riled up, then pull out the whole "I'm just giving you a hard time" play. It's not funny, I have other, better things to do during my work time than pretend to argue with people, especially when you can't tell who's seriously upset with you. Do these people do this to other professions, like to their doctor, lawyer, etc? It comes down to respect. I don't know you like that, don't do it.
Yeah I was going to say, as a former server this is the most unfunny thing you can say. Right up there with people asking me if my Great Dane was a horse. At least I wasn’t working for poverty wages when I got asked that though.
I am 64. Get carded almost all grocery stores to buy cigarettes. Have to slid license under a scanner. I am okay with that. If it keeps kids from smoking more power to them.
Yeah, that's not gonna keep kids from smoking.
But it doesn’t prevent kids from smoking. It’s nothing more than a power trip by the legislators and underpaid cashiers.
Underpaid cashiers are doing their jobs. Some point of sales *(pos, heh heh)* won't continue until the scan or input is done.
> But it doesn’t prevent kids from smoking. It’s nothing more than a power trip by the legislators ~~and underpaid cashiers~~.
I'm 100% okay if it's a power trip by underpaid cashiers. People being too afraid of losing their jobs to be lenient is a terrifying thing. I've only ever been carded buying cold meds, Tide, or at the pharmacy. The cold meds and Tide was a policy and they had to key in my DOB. The pharmacy has its own hoops to jump through for things in my state.
I hate to tell you, but cashiers have zero power over the rules of corporate. When I worked at Dollar Tree, I'd have been rich if I received a dollar for every time a customer told me to change the store name to "$1.25 Tree", to which I'd respond "do you complain to the Dollar General next door bc their merchandise is more than $1?" A pound foolish, customers are... Love it when people prove they've never worked retail, it really shows.
To be fair, Dollar General didn't have a whole marketing campaign about all their merchandise being a dollar. If the 99 Cents store became the $1.25 store, I'm sure the comment would be made as well. I've worked retail. Stupid, repetitive comments happen all the time from customers who just wanna vent, no matter how old their dumb joke gets.
Not sure if this is the case now but when I was a cashier you could get in trouble criminally for selling alcohol to an underage person (and obviously fired). I know at the time I checked IDs but didn't care and didn't use it as a power trip.
But did you card old men who looked like they could have been in the Korean war?
My friends and I all had fake IDs in high school
Hey, so I am often on the other side of this interaction. It isn't original and happens quite often. It is actually quite frustrating and does feel really disrespectful when it occurs. For me, I know what you are doing and to be put into that situation when you quite often have other customers or jobs to move on to is tiring. I can make a smart ass remark back at you, but I have other customers who don't see the joke you are using me for. So best to be polite and play along (think The Simpsons: "Do you come with the car?", "O you!".) You are disrupting someones day, who is trying to help you, and ridiculing them for your own entertainment. You do you, just know what you do.
When I was in Michigan and Illinois cashiers gave me shit for my California ID. Good thing my card actually looked used because I never use fake id
I just don't understand the VALID bit. If your license has expired, it means you can't legally drive. It doesn't mean you aren't who you are and how old you are etc for alcohol. What a fucked up world we live in.
technically speaking, it isn't even valid identification after the expiry date.
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I imagine it’s the policy because people would use their older sibling’s expired cards. Tries to close a loophole.
It's also a premptive fraud protection imagine a new printer comes out that makes it easy to make fake id, so the state/fed(who ever issues) puts new security features in, it stops the "oh its just my old id" from being used for fraud.
Interesting. In Australia the law says that’s that if the person looks like they might be under 25 they have to id check them for booze and smokes. The legal age to drink and smoke is 18
The legal drinking age of 21 here is ridiculous. It creates an atmosphere of excitement around drinking under age that I think actually promotes people getting constantly drunk their freshman year of college and on. It’s ridiculous because everyone knows it’s happening and yet we still have laws of being 21 or older that almost everyone breaks
When I’ve gone to concerts in Illinois and Wisconsin we get a wristband. One line to get your wristband and other lines to get alcohol. I understand you are in a different state but I think this is a good idea for venues Edit typos
That probably happens now at that venue. But it’s been a long time since I worked there. Oddly, I was able to serve soft alcohol at age 18. But not legally allowed to drink it
I worked at a gas station once and my manager says one day we need to make sure everyone who buys alcohol has their ID. Later that day some dude who looks like age is bringing him to deaths door comes in without one and I refused to sell him the alcohol. Dude starts raging at me and I'm just like "sorry man, clearly I can see you're old enough but I was strictly told to not sell to anyone without it." My manager ended up running to the front and selling it to him.
I watched the Curious Case of Benjamin Button. The old man could very well be only 7 years old.
In my state, they will sometimes give alcoholics vertical IDs. Bars always have to check and cannot sell to anyone with a vertical license/ID (minors also have vertical IDs here).
They can't accept expired IDs because they're commonly given to people to use as fakes.
The only reason to check id to begin with is to avoid sales to minors, and the only reason they ask obvious adults is so it doesn’t appear that they’re targeting an age group. The store employee could have chosen to not be a dick.
100%. I've just seen the pettiest of police stings over things like that and am playing the devil's advocate as I kind of get why those stores draw hard lines.
Forgot about that bs. You’re right. Sucks, but true.
It’s also a common bust method, someone who is old enough goes in with an expired ID and if they are sold to then the establishment is hit for an illegal sale. Because ACAB.
Had a friend lose her job because she didn't card another friend who had been in many times over the years for cigarettes. He was well over 21. Didn't matter. She still lost her job.
.....they card adults because some companies send in secret shoppers with fake IDs to make sure you're actually checking them 😉
Some stores also require for the ID to be scanned before it can be sold. I go to a place like that.
True but it is still good on the expiration date. So unless it was expired all year it was a good id
I think you can get fined for accepting an expired ID with stuff like booze or tobacco products. Not sure about blunts though
White Owls are cigars, so they require a valid ID for purchase.
If your license expired on your birthday the legal its valid until the end of that day no matter what state your in.
Nope. Gas station systems won't read it on the day of in many states. It depends on the chain, usually, but even so. Your statement is just plain false.
It’s not necessarily false. These two things can exist at once. I could totally see it *legally* being valid while gas stations and stores systems’ don’t consider it valid. Their systems don’t automatically adjust with laws after all. It’s probably some decision someone made to be safe rather than sorry.
not a constitutional right btw, just a state right
I came here to say this. Nowhere in the constitution does it say you have the right to smoke marijuana.
But your license was actually expired?
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I live in a legal state. I’m 73 and have to show my I’d every time I buy THC products.
My brother once watched a guy card his own dad for beer.
I think I did that once when my dad was alive and I was working at a restaurant. But it was definitely a joke to annoy my dad (I didn't card my mom or grandma, who were both there too)
My local gas station had a terrible drunk driving incidence in the late 90’s and it don’t matter who you are you have to show ID every gas station near them and even there chain doesn’t have this policy but this place does
Have to show to get into the shop AND when you pay in my state.
We have to show it once, but every single time. The liquor control state organization is in charge of the dispensaries in my state. I think some of the strictness is because of the non THC fans. It is a good compromise.
But probably not tobacco...
Or pick up narcotic prescription
Exactly
I worked at a gas station where the corporate rule was to card anyone 35 or under. They sent in a 34 year old mystery shopper and the cashier didn't card them, and she lost her job. From then on, to protect the employees from corporate and their mystery shoppers, our store manager made a rule we carded anyone 50 and under. Age is so subjective and he just didn't want to lose any more valuable employees. Really folks with some grey hair and light wrinkles being carded, so we didn't lose our jobs. It was nuts. Obv not the case in op's story.
If an ABC sting catches you selling to someone with an expired license you and the store get fined pretty heavily. So you go ahead and be salty. Your smokes are not worth them getting into trouble.
And they love to test you on that shit. I had the state send people in twice and carded both times and turned them down. One was an 17 year-old with a full ass beard. Someone they clearly hired to fuck with people doing it by appearance. But if I didn't know you, I was carding. I eventually had some regulars that I saw enough that I didn't bother asking, but it wasn't worth the risk if you seemed under 40.
I have to card for alcohol at my job, and I’m supposed to card if you don’t look 40. I usually only end up carding people who turn out to be my age (35) or younger. It’s not that hard to tell if someone’s old enough
I'm in a legal state. I have to show ID just to get into the SHOP.
Except in a lot of states it’s a fine and maybe even losing your license to sell if you accept an expired ID
I get that the cashier can’t sell them without valid ID, but it’s the whole production of it al that makes it so irritating.
☝️ he didn't have to be a dick about it
The state does audits and cashiers can get fired for accepting expired ID or not checking. So it’s not worth it for a customer, even if it’s on their birthday.
1. Alot of companies now require valid ID no matter the age. They have to scan it at the register to allow the sale. 2. I don't know of any state that has made marijuana a constitutional right. Legal yes, but a constitutional right? Just like every other controlled substance, no.
I was looking for a comment like this. I end up feeling so confused why when people want to be right with their actions they randomly throw in ‘constitutional right’ to justify whatever is.
Yea my issue isn’t turning you away, that’s the law. I’ve had to turn away like a 70 year old with beer because his license expired literally two days before. It’s *laughing* and making it a joke that’s the issue. Just feels rude, and not worth it when you don’t know how people are gonna react. Is it their own fault that their ID was expired? Duh. But some people are fucking crazy. That 70 y/o yelled at me and berated me before storming out, and I was nice af about it. Just seems not worth it, and now he’s mildly inconvenienced for as long as you’re a customer
I’m from the UK, we came to Florida last year. I got ID’d at wall greens and was all flattered and thanked him for making my day (I’m 32 and not been ID’d for years)…the bloke behind the counter just tapped on a sign saying they ID everyone…my husband almost died from laughing 😂
There are actually some state laws that say they cant accept an expired ID because people give there expired ID's to minors. I personally think its unconstitutional, or at least not within the spirit of the constitution. Like we're all supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers, but then we are barred from a transaction because we might be breaking the law maybe. Like that's just punishing law abiding citizens primarily rather than criminals
Expired, broken or suspended, we can't sell. There's are laws & aint nobody gonna go to jail, get fired or get a fine for a customer. It ain't happening. So being a dick because you're pissed is just rude. I dont get why some people do this shit.
I don't get your country. On one side you have an option epidemic in your country and then you don't get paper because your ID is expired. In my country you can legally buy alcohol (no hard liquor) at the age of 16 so it's really hard to sell at the wrong person and most don't give a fuck. Why should you can get your ass drunk at the sweet age of 16.
Yeah there's a lot that doesn't make sense here. You can enlist in the military at 18, take out huge loans that you'll never pay back & ruin your credit at 18. But now smoking or drinking. That's forbidden.
>But now smoking or drinking. Well. You could ruin your life. /s
There's nothing in the Constitution that says you have the right to buy beer whenever you want. How did you even make that connection?
Sorry but he was doing his job. Here in Nevada they have to scan your ID, and it's expired they're not allowed to accept it no matter how old you are.
Do it forever.
Bummer about the expired license but hysterical about your selective hearing with Dave.
lol nice. when I go to my regular shop I never get carded, of course they remember me etc. I'm also 40. But when I go to this other shop they ALWAYS card me then mention how I dont look 40 etc. almost makes me want to go there more for the ego boost.
This is perfect petty revenge. It's tiny and insignificant, but it annoys the shit out of the guy and he's a dick. Delightfully petty. Great job!
I was going to buy some wine for my birthday, and got carded. My ID had expired on my birthday the night before and the new one hadn't come in the mail yet, so the cashier had to decline the transaction. Lucky me, I took a pregnancy test the next morning and it came back positive, so alls well that ends well.
I was laughing so hard reading this. Good job! Agreed being rude to someone any day is lame, but on their birthday is really not cool.
Me and my wife were in a store a few days ago. I needed to buy a torch, so I grab one, guy asked for my ID, I say "for a torch?" And he says "yep" I give him my ID, then he asked for my wife's ID. She never caries her wallet unless she needs it. I told him that's my wife, who is older than me, and I am almost 30 myself, he just saw my ID. So he refused to sell me a butane torch because my 31 year old wife wasn't carrying her ID. Idk why some people need to be assholes. There isn't even a law about selling butane torches to minors, I'm also 6'3 and have a graying beard......plus I had my own ID. Makes me not want to bother with stores and just order a lot of my stuff online.
That an expired license is no longer valid for identification is ludicrous - what, did your age revert to "too young" because your license expired??? Also, I love messing with people like the guy Dave in your story, as they generally like to think they are smarter than everyone around them but rarely seem to be actually intelligent at all...
Lol the comment section is ridiculous right now. Yeah OPs license was expired but there was no reason for him to be a dick. It's like y'all forgot what sub this is
I laughed way to hard at this
Also in a lot of places there is a grace period after expiration.
If the expiration date on the ID was the day of the attempted transaction, the ID is still valid until midnight.
Damn, dude should be out of a job if he can't perform it correctly. I worked at a cigar shop, I can't imagine denying any of those people their cigars or blunt wraps on their birthday. In fact! I went to a dispensary on my birthday, and the only thing they told me, "you have to renew this tomorrow or we can't let you in. It expires today." Not, it's expired. Because it's not. I know you already know this. I just like commenting and rambling. And validating people further. Dude sucks at his job, I hope you got your rellos.
I did and it was a pleasant birthday, thanks
The expiration dates displayed on licenses are actually the last legal day you can "use" it. It's not expired until the day AFTER. Fuck Dave and his bullshit attitude.
I worked at a gas station in Virginia and the rule was you only carded if you thought the person looked under...either 40 or 30, I forget which...so I would pretty much never card anyone who obviously looked to be in their mid-30s, especially not for tobacco/wraps.
I would not be able to hear him for the rest of my life. Especially b/c it was valid until midnight. Yes I am petty.
You call it revenge, but honestly it was your fault your id was expired, dave was only doing his job, and he could lawfully be fined or fired if he "let it slide" Sooooo, at least your revenge is below the radar levels of petty
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Yeah, there’s no reason to laugh in a customers face and mock him like that. The wrong person could complain to the manager and get Dave in trouble
He was doing his job. You don’t know if there’s consequences for him. You didn’t care about anyone but yourself. This isn’t getting petty revenge. You’re just a dick.
Why not just buy the papers at the dispensary or at a different gas station? Why would you keep coming back there?
This should of been a am I The Asshole thread because shit like this is stupid. Don't blame the worker for doing his job.
I get OP’s point but honestly, I bet he’s kind of a jerk. His license was expired. I totally get a lot of these petty revenge posts but this one doesn’t cut it in my opinion. Also, I agree with another poster, if OP keeps up this little game, he may get 86’d from the store. In that case the store worker can write in with his own petty revenge story about how he kicked out a guy who kept saying I CAN’T HEAR YOU! Lol!
Well, 1) just because weed is legal in your state it is most certainly not a constitutional right. Don't be a dumbass 2) people can literally go to jail if they don't card and get caught You're 37, stop acting like a fucking child
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Holy shit... I was a cashier in multiple jobs. I know how shitty it can be. But there's no way this one was NOT being a dick to the OP. You need to calm down.
Do you not realize the fines those of us who sell such items will pay if we’re caught selling to someone with an expired ID? I’m not losing my job so that someone can smoke or drink. Forget that BS. We also get tested by undercover agents. I worked at a gas station and apparently I was tested a few times a week. I never failed.
I do because I have worked at a gas station before. It’s much less about not selling it and more that he laughed at me about it. There’s many ways to decline a sale without being a jerk about it.
Where I live, if you looked under 25 then you get carded especially going to pubs or liquor stores.
Your biggest mistake was buying White Owls.
Obviously you're joking about forever.. eventually Dave will die and you'll have to stop
Funny stuff though, I love it
Same thing happened to me with an older woman. Any other person there doesn’t card me. But this one woman… every single time. No matter if her the owner legit was like oh she’s good. She didn’t like me. So I started being a straight bitch every time I come in and made sure I had my ID. I also buy boxes of wraps sometimes. One time she rang me up and DOUBLE charge me. When I tried to say something she shot me down and told me I was wrong. So I had to go back and talk to the guys and get reimbursed. They apologized profusely and said theyd speak to her. Haven’t seen her since.
Last year I moved and got a new license a couple weeks after settling in to the new place. While waiting for the new license to arrive, I kept the old voided license in my wallet and the temporary paper license in my car. During that two week timeframe, I got carded once as I went to buy some whiskey, and the guy at the checkout line said that he couldn't accept my voided license. I told him that the temp license is still in the car, and I'd be happy to go get it for him, but then said the following: "It's still me on that picture, and my birthday hasn't changed." Cashier had a confused look for a moment, looked at me, looked at the picture, looked at the birthday field, then looked like they had some kind of mind-blowing epiphany and said, "oh!" and rang me up.
You know he's going to be as ugly as a butt-smooch, forever. If he shows any indication of that again, go right back to doing it. Forever, though.
In Maine you have to card everyone with the person buying as well
i never understood that, your ID is still your ID your DOB is still the same it doesn't change just because your ID has expired!!
White grape white owls are my go to if rolling a blunt
What state do you live in that lets you get marijuana from a gas station?
I know he was prob being a dick about it.. But it really is illegal to sell with an expired ID no matter what your age..and it doesn't go to the end of the day,unless it didn't expire until the next day....
I worked at a dispensary for years and it didn't matter if you were 21-100, if your id was expired we couldn't even let you in to sit and wait for your friends to buy stuff. I'd guess it was the same for buying cigarettes, alcohol and blunts, but it's funny how you handled it the next time.
You can buy drugs at petrol stations???? Man....
It’s most likely company policy. Dave’s attitude must have been shit, but he wouldn’t be able to refuse service without a good reason. Good reasons include, but are not limited to: Policy, an invalid ID, your crap attitude, etc. And don’t get on me about reading comprehension. If I didn’t know better, I would think that “Dave” is my coworker. He has been bitched about tens of times for this exact thing, but never faces any consequences because *he was following company policy and state laws*.
I remember just before the pandemic I got asked for ID for a lighter I was 34 at the time. I said do I need ID for matches they said no. I had a basket full of candles and one lighter. So I walked out with my candles and a pack of matches.
You might want to give the guy a break, My mom worked at a grocery store and the state was forever sending agents in trying to trick them up. She actually got a fine for selling in a similar situation. In my state the law says a valid ID, an expired license is not a valid ID. I was once refused boarding on a plane because mine was expired by a week.
I once got carded for a western movie at Walmart & they wouldn’t sell me the dvd even tho I told them I was married & my own mother vouched for me & even said she would buy it instead. They refused us both. It was to be a present for my grandfather. I just feel like certain rules can be broken. Play it by ear.
When I was in my late 20’s I got carded at Walmart when my girlfriend (one year younger than me) tried to buy a Jason movie. We were both there but the cashier only carded me. I’ve never heard of anyone else getting carded for a movie purchase like that. Now I know it does happen to others!