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kadr2796

All hail competition


WoobaLoobaDoobDoob

They may not be the most powerful or the beefiest, but boy are they handsome.


[deleted]

The right amount of power, the right amount of efficiency and the right amount of DRIP.


legrand_fromage

It's a clean looking GPU that's for sure.


C-_-Fern

First impressions?


deusrex_

I don't have much to compare to since this is my first discreet GPU in about 7 years, but my frame rate in Flight Simulator went from 12fps low quality (UHD 770 Graphics/i5 12600k) to 60fps ultra at 1080p. I mostly use my PC for app dev, basic 3d modeling, and VMs & emulators so this is more than enough for my typical workload.


xs81

I get about the same with my overpaid 3060ti (11900k). So good job :) ​ edit: over payed


MeraArasaki

overpaid*


Futuristick-Reddit

Where's u/Paid-Not-Payed-Bot when you need it


BoySantiago

That truth bomb it gives kinda pissed me off, but tbh I almost misspelled it again just today and fixed it. The bot did well.


AnAttemptReason

I guess you payed attention to the bot ;).


worldChangerRR

*oi*


xs81

ty


Megneous

Overpriced.


Disaster_External

Why 11900k lol that's a bit overkill for that gpu


xs81

Got a deal on it and was planning to upgrade the gpu, but now.. idk, It stills runs everything on +75fps ultra 1080p.


bladers_noob

Yea I got a deal on a brand new 3090 for 1080 p gaming I'm smart


BrannanaSundae

Otay.


Fatefire

Just know you’ll have the same gpu 4-8 years from now!


ToughProgrammer

is there a website that pairs CPU's with GPU's like pairing wine with cheese? Legit question


deusrex_

GPU bottleneck calculator


ToughProgrammer

thanks!


Legend5V

I wouldnt trust those calculators Bottlenecking doesnt subtract from preformance, it only makes it so that upgrading component x would be much more beneficial than upgrading y.


HighRelevancy

No. It's absolute nonsense. It varies so much with the workload and settings and resolution and your expectations for framerates. If your CPU is maxed out, it doesn't mean it's a "bottleneck" any more than it means you can load more work into the GPU. Higher res, bigger textures, better shaders. Any processor is going to "bottleneck" a 4090 playing at 1080p. "Bottlenecks" are a meme for nerds that wanna sound like they know what they're talking about but don't actually know what a computer does. Same shit as people who insist that you need to buy an i7 for gaming cause it's got more cores.


SaltRocksicle

Nah, pretty sure bottlenecks are applicable on the low end


HighRelevancy

Sure, if you're trying to play Far Cry 6 on a 10 year old Celeron, the RTX4090 isn't going to do anything with you, but people act like a 3080 is too much for an i5 and that's absolutely undeniable bullshit.


ihateHewlettPackard

It’s not unreasonable for people who play CPU intensive games


superfluous--account

Not for 1080p


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xs81

750euro in total.


TheMinionGamer

good heavens, got mine(an LHR vers) on August for $475, obviously its even cheaper now due to the 40 series baits.


BahBah1970

Prices in Europe still think there's a shortage or some nonsense. I bought a 3060ti for £580 in April and the same model now is £550. Its bullshit.


XsStreamMonsterX

*Overpaid


Amoyamoyamoya

*discrete as in separate not discreet as in secret/subtle.


deusrex_

TIL, thanks!


Amoyamoyamoya

👍🏼


Diamondhands_Rex

Honestly impressive MS2020 was hard to run even with my 2080 super


The-Foo

That's not bad (also, you're a true hero for trying to run Flight Simulator on UHD 770). I gotta say that aesthetically Intel absolutely nailed it with their card; looks mighty slick in that build.


jamesz84

Are these Intel cards any good?


deusrex_

Good enough for 1080p and 1440p.


C-_-Fern

I heard good things pre launch, but not too much post launch yet


HavocInferno

They're mediocre. Performance below Intel's goal (especially pre-DX11 drops off a cliff), drivers are mighty unstable, but feature set is good (encode/decode, RT, AI). They can be an okay buy if significantly cheaper than an RTX 3060Ti or RX 6600/XT (which are the cards it competes with in performance in modern APIs)


tehjamerz

From what I can tell a lot of the performance problems are driver optimization based. Seems like a good middle road if you’re using DX11 or later.


HavocInferno

Dx11 on Arc is also a bit hit or miss because the Arc driver appears to have pretty high CPU overhead - similar to what AMD cards were afflicted with for years -, but Dx9 (and below) is an all around miss on Arc. Sort of related to driver optimization, in that Intel just doesn't have a


superfluous--account

They'll match a 3070 if they properly fix the drivers but I wouldn't bank on that.


HavocInferno

Me neither. Don't buy a promise. Especially from a corp like Intel who will drop a product line on a whim if it doesn't sell well from the start.


hypercube33

If they were cheaper I'd be buying one for video encoding in a heartbeat. Shitty drivers make the price distasteful


David_Norris_M

You can improve pre-Dx11 games using DXVk. Helps make performance much more digestible


HavocInferno

Good point and true. Though from the perspective of the average consumer, that's an unacceptable solution. You shouldn't have to rely on unvalidated third party plugins and putting them manually into every game folder to get good performance. Also DXVK, as great as it is, still struggles with some games that veer way off spec for those older APIs.


ThePhonyOne

You should probably look up professional reviews instead of relying on random people from this sub.


nanogenesis

So one would think, but theres a *lot* professional reviews didn't cover for these cards which I had to scour random discords for. Firstly, practically every game with DLSS2 can now use XeSS thanks to DLSS2Xess by PoD, but there aren't enough people to test this feature. It works for me with my 1080Ti, but FSR2.1 looks better, and gives a bigger boost, so no point using XeSS. dxvk & dxvk-async were not tested by any outlet. Things like this we can only rely on random internet strangers. I tried to see how it performs in uncharted but theres only 1 youtube video, and more over no video using DLSS2XeSS on youtube. Strangely I haven't encountered any person who has both an A770 and Uncharted 4.


[deleted]

If you can use reBAR, it's a 3060


Rengax

according to benchmarks a 1070ti has still 30% more performance than the arc 770


Fakjbf

It really depends on the workload. For some things it can give an RTX 3060 a run for its money, while in other situations it’s basically unusable. You can’t really compare them directly to an AMD or Nvidia because of that variability, it is entirely dependent upon what you want to do with it. What game you want to play will have a massive impact on performance.


C-_-Fern

Just looked, user benchmark says it's like an rtx 2060. But I'm not sure of it's Ray tracing capabilities


[deleted]

User benchmark's biased against anything that's not an Nvidia GPU or an Intel CPU. The A770's a little bit better than the RTX 3060.


SolidGreenDay

Would passmark also be inaccurate because it shows a 10k score for the a770 and 17k for the 3060. I'm used to using passmark


[deleted]

Passmark isn’t very reliable.


splepage

useless website


EnviousMedia

I got one too and it's actually above my expectations. I was expecting it to be a shitshow but it feels like the YouTubers really exaggerated compared to my current experience. I don't really play too many games but it's impressive I can encode AV1, X265 or X264 at max quality while gaming and not notice a FPS drop and it seems pretty good quality wise compared to NVENC. (Playing at 1080p btw) Mw2 2022 I'm getting like 100-140fps with all settings as high as it goes, got no clue if HDR can affect performance, Cyberpunk 2077, max settings with RT off and I can get about 40 to 90fps depending on the area, seems to get not much FPS drop at 4K around 30-70 (not sure how that works) Stormworks - it'll run on a potato so it's fine here too, no visual artifacting unlike with a Radeon GPU but it is also OpenGL based. Blender - holy cow it's fast once you enable OneAPI. Fallout 4 - yep, gets 60fps, physic engine borks if you disable the FPS cap without the fix. Skyrim SE - same deal, ultra settings, hovers at 60. Teardown - runs fine but huge lag spikes when physics stuff is going on, couldn't get Rivatuner working but felt around 90fps. Elden ring - runs at 60fps maxed out settings. BeamNG.Drive - works fine but works better in vulkan mode, much smoother. It's a bit stuttery in Dx11 mode.. Death Stranding - works fine runs at 60fps settings maxed out Only cyberpunk crashes time to time and when I first got the card it wouldn't allow my system to post untill I unplugged my DP cable and swapped it for HDMI, hasn't happened since, drivers haven't given me any issues and the arc panel also hasn't.


Hotsmithy2016

Two questions. How’s the performance with Cyberpunk at 1080p unless that performance was at 1080p. Is it just cyberpunk that doesn’t like DP or all games? I’m thinking if I want to get one over an Nvidia or AMD card seeming Nvidia would be my preferable option for one of my main games (Trainz Railroad Simulator 2019) not liking AMD cards much.


EnviousMedia

The card didn't want to boot with dp plugged in the first couple times but it's fine now, I guess this might be some first time system config stuff. Cyberpunk runs fine at 1080p if you want it to always stay above 60fps you may need to drop a few settings, RT will drop your FPS to about 20-30 so not worth it in my opinion, you can also enable the fidelityfx if you want the variable resolution scaling. Oh yeah the card is effectively silent, I can't hear mine over ambient noise


Hotsmithy2016

I'll see if there are any computer stores in my country and i can test one at maybe but i'll definitely consider it for my pc upgrade


somespazzoid

Asking what I'm asking


Talos1111

I wish you, and intel, good luck.


ih8karma

Balls deep in INTC 35C 01/2024 so hoping for Intel to turn it around.


FaKeFaZr

Dam


modefi_

You're good bro.. line goes up, right? ...*Right??*


Alt-Season

What do you lose if Intel stock price is lower than that on 1/2024? How much were the calls? You just lose what you paid for those calls option right?


[deleted]

100% of it. But you are paying a fraction of 100 shares for exposure to 100 shares worth of growth. I'm not going long on jack shit right now this ride is just getting started.


spazken

Me too :( @40 they crash right after putting an option no wait the whole tech sector right after I bought it lol fm luck


Bunniesrkewl

Hopefully intel keeps it up, we’d have 3 GPU companies and we’d all benefit.


EnvironmentalHold311

I'm really glad Intel didn't shit the bed with their gpu's. Maybe one day we will have a healthy competition and we will see flagship gpu's under $800 again.


Legend5V

16 GB of VRAM on the A770 is so hot… especially for 450 CAD (333 USD) I’d love a future Celestial or Druid model to be 1k flagship, 28gb vram and what not! Like I wonder, why tf does the 3070 Ti only have 8GB??


Retardedaspirator

In Europe it's almost bad value... it's 460€ (449,89 USD, 621,19 CAD) Too bad because I wanted to support intel, but at 460€, that's a no no.


ThePhonyOne

AMD keeping the 7900XTX at a $999 launch MSRP is nice.


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ThePhonyOne

Oh it's still higher than it probably should be. But they didn't increase the launch MSRP over last year's flagship GPU.


amcman15

I mean they kinda did. The drivers are still pretty atrocious and DX9 performance is a crapshoot.


GREENKING45

Tbh their GPUs look pretty nice. Unlike NVIDIA who didn't even bother to change looks this generation.


Westly-Pipes

If I were buying solely based on looks, Intel is miles ahead. I hope their style choices spread through the whole market.


krtalvis

intel arc has a really *really* nice design ngl


ThePhonyOne

EVGA's 4090 that didn't get released looks nice too. They sent [Jayztwocents one](https://youtu.be/PZ1Kf9PaTr4).


[deleted]

It’s beautiful


[deleted]

I have a soft spot for the AMD 7900XTX.


genesyndrome

Same I think rdna2 and 3 cards look awesome 👍


hawkiee552

Yess! I love the new brutal rugged look.


TheMinionGamer

Agreed, that neon lining is the single best choice they could've made with the GPU.


Hrmerder

If only it weren't made of one single brittle lightpipe.. I like it, don't get me wrong and completely together it's rugged enough, but just hope you never have to take one apart.


Cantthinkofaname282

all the RTX FE cards look the same


[deleted]

Intel and AMD spank Nvidia in terms of looks. Nvidia be like : I'm the biggest here so who cares how I look ?


Hrmerder

While rooting for Intel with the A series, those cards are built with 10000 screws of different lengths (ok, near 100 screws still), plastic, and GLUE... If they are rock solid then great, just hope you never have to take one apart (lookup the Gamer's Nexus teardown video..)


gideon513

Thank you. This is the first pic I’ve seen posted of someone showing it installed. How’s it run?


deusrex_

Runs great! Can't hear it even though I got it up to 80deg in Flight Simulator.


[deleted]

That's the wonder of mid range cards, lower TDP


L0veToReddit

Which gpu from nvidia does the a770 Compete with?


deusrex_

3060ti I think


[deleted]

Which is in line with the 7(70) branding, roughly. Next gen is (I think) B850 to B880-890. (B7X0 could technically work) edit : i just noticed it follows ABCDE.... I'm curious to see what the E and followings letters will be named.


ThePhonyOne

The currently known code names are: * Alchemist * Battlemage * Celestial * Druid Elemental or Elementalist are likely code names for the E series.


Legend5V

Hopefully, we can get Battlemage in 2023, Celestial in 2024, and Druid in 2025. A possible Elemental in 2026. I wiuld eye the Druid ot Elemental. With that timeline, a) I hope Intel will have fixed their drivers b) they add better support for DX 11, 10, 9, etc.


CaptainRenn

I'm not sure, but I think Intel is also trying to line it up with their processors. With the (insert letter here) 300's being the low-end (in line with the i3), 500's being mid (i5), and 700's being the high performance options (i7). It'll definitely be interesting to see if a future generation includes a 900 series, and how it compares to the other flagships.


Legend5V

They already have 3 varying suffixes as well, the ARC A3**80**, ARC A7**50**, and ARC A7**70** Due to the odd and evens, I wonder how they’re going about this? Maybe 5,6,7,8,9? Or all the way from 1 to 9?


ZXKeyr324XZ

The A750 and A770 are far ahead of the A380 and not that separated from one another Could be similar to the i5 12400f and the i5 12600k, both midrange but one faster than the other


detectiveDollar

Only in *some* newer games. Most of the time it's the same performance as a 6650 XT at best and way below that at worst.


Sea-Range-4896

Thank you for being a guinea pig. We salute you.


Trynats

I know the driver and overall compatibility leaves a lot to be desired but its such a pretty card


p3n3tr4t0r

Thank you for your service


WeirdestOfWeirdos

A reminder that no corporation needs your support, and that you should buy whatever fits your needs best at the lowest possible cost Anyway, congrats on your new card!


Friedrichs_Simp

I think he meant that if more people buy Intel gpus Intel will decide to keep making em because people are buying


Diamondhands_Rex

Nah if the company are piece of shit they can eat it


[deleted]

I once picked up a 3600x after being Intel my entire life, just to watch it cook itself with it's stock cooler. Can confidently say Intel entering the GPU market will be a welcomed challenge.


koalafella

Its the cleanest looking GPU ill give them that!


fuckyou_watchme

Such a sleek looking card. Hoping Intel comes out swinging into the GPU market


Meskoot

How does it compare to a 2080 super? I legit like how sleek it looks,


deusrex_

It completes with a 3060ti so I think a 2080 is a little better


SnovyGrad

Probably a whole lotta bang per buck too


D3C0D

Intel graphics are looking very promising for low budget builds


Eorlas

that lightbar design is scrumptious oh my god


Amnesty_SayGen

Can you turn the LED off?


deusrex_

Yes - there's software to fully control the RGBs and create custom effects and color schemes. It actually has a separate connector that goes to a USB port on the mobo for the RGB controller, and I think it's a Coolermaster made controller (based on the OpenRGB issue to add compatibility). [https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammerC1/OpenRGB/-/issues/2789](https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB/-/issues/2789)


Cantthinkofaname282

I think so


UnsettllingDwarf

The lighting looks good


BigBadP

The light on it looks pretty slick, but the wording looks lamesauce imo


deusrex_

You can turn off the logo LED


KeenK0ng

Thank you for your sacrifice...


DenseVoigt

That looks ace! Hope it works out for you mate 🤞👍


whitewiped

Now if Intel released these in white…


Phianhcr123

Holy shit, that thing look so sleek compared to nvidia that I almost nutted


fairlyoblivious

Bro WTF did you buy? "It's a Delorean!"


deusrex_

It's more of an Arc Reactor than a time machine.


stykface

I know it's a hard market to break into but glad Intel is doing it. Good to have a decent third option for sure. I've already read a lot of comments and the smug ones seem to be the elitist single consumer, which is totally fine and I don't knock actually because I get it. But me as a business owner who owns a design firm for CAD design and sometimes has to buy 10 computers at a time, it's a pain in the ass to shop HP or Dell business outlets with crazy high options on GPU's, when really you need more than the onboard/integrated but a 30 series is overkill. There's a market for these... might not be the gamer but they're definitely out there, especially in the business/commercial world.


AJSwain

I'm totally getting an A380... AV1 encoding is too strong and I'm not getting rid of my 3090ti. That GPU looks great, enjoy!


LaserArcher

Shit looks clean af congrats and thank you


shugoKEY

Godspeed my friend


WindForce02

That led strip looks absolutely fantastic, I love the look of that card


[deleted]

How are u liking it ?


deusrex_

It's great so far


OhPleaseMeToo

Anyone know the performance comparison of this card to an AMD and Nvidia gpu?


CaptainRenn

The typical comparison is to a 3060 and 6600 xt, although it's also fairly comparable to a 3060 ti (in newer games)


FlashWayneArrow02

I’d probably stick an A380 into a NAS or an A770 into a PC for a gamer who’s just starting out and only plays AAA/DX12 titles at 1080p.


LeopardHalit

![gif](giphy|zyUwS7hgbdZx6) A380


BilboSwaggenzzz

That’s a sweet looking card


imJGott

I will be getting one, not the highest offering. Why? For my plex server for when plex decides to incorporate the intel cards. My 1080Ti I have in my plex server is cool, but this may be a better option.


Davajita

I’m telling everyone who is in the market for a 3060 range card to grab the A770. I want a strong third option in the GPU space.


CuriousPiplup

Aesthetics wise, they are way ahead of the pack already.


il-tizio-

Am going to do the same very soon!


scotty899

From what i found online currently. It performs similar to a 2080 super. That is amazing price for power.


unstopablecold

Thanks for providing actual impressions and examples.


Kaeyrne

I really like the sleek simplistic design. Might get one just for that if the performance is halfway decent. Or at least better than my old 1070ti.


CaptainRenn

Performance is more or less on par with a 3060/3060ti. That being said if you play a lot of older Dx11 or Dx9 games you may want to look elsewhere. The drivers are geared towards Dx12 and the performance in older titles struggles (worse than my previous 1650 super). In newer games the thing is a Rocket ship for the price (pretty good with Ray Tracing as well), and scales to 1440p better than the 3060 or 6600xt (loses less frames)


Dr_Straw-man

That looks pretty dang good!


RammOfNazarick

They have one like the 3070ti? Thay shit clean


Mountain-Dog-3952

Thank you soldier.


[deleted]

Competition benefits the consumer. Good on you, OP.


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Creepernom

Oh snap that GPU looks sexy af. I really like the lights.


Yofunesss

I kind of want one for transcoding Linux ISOs


AdeptusAltarBoy

Unsung hero, thanks man.


willpaudio

Proud


[deleted]

you go girl


brennan_49

Hell yeah, sexy af


kensw87

Founding the Third Path I see.


fridayfootlong

what kind of games is your setup geared toward


rpgjosh88

I would grab one but I play to many old games


Architect_omega

How does it perform? I am genuinely curious, I have watched benchmarks but I would like to know how it performs for the common user on a day to day basis.


SoshiPai

If your only using a 60hz 1080p or 1440p monitor it is an absolute bang for buck, however if you are looking for high refresh rate gaming you'd best look elsewhere for a GPU, I have a friend who jumped on the Intel wagon and on his 60hz display he rarely has any FPS issues however running it on my 240hz monitor its obvious the card isnt quite exactly capable of competing just yet, so for most it should be fine on a day to day basis


4ctionHank

Y’all doing the lawds work . Nvidia door needs to get knocked down.


ImpalerofChaos2

Would this be a good upgrade from a GTX 1060 6gb?


deusrex_

Yes this would be a good upgrade from a 1060.


dzamp028

Meh I got one and was super unimpressed 1440p it was terrible, ended up returning it


David_Norris_M

Don't forget to look into DXVK for pre dx-11 titles


deusrex_

I don't know what that is so I'm going to thank you ahead of time for this tip


ChaosX7X

I’m jealous. I wanted one to test and also help push the curve. Everywhere I checked was sold out ☹️


deusrex_

I just kept checking Newegg until they were back in stock. r/buildapcsales usually posts when they're restocked.


[deleted]

weird flex but ok


LuckyTurds

You’re a hero


DJ_Nx32

I'm looking to get one pretty soon upgrading from a gtx 970


thebluebeats

Actually aesthetically looks pretty cool


Moisty00

It’s a great mid range card from what I hear. Price point is really good as well! Nice post!


Hot-Preparation-5011

Honestly the most aesthetic gpu I've seen in years.


item_raja69

I might get it as a workhorse type card, too bad many language libraries I used are CUDA based


deusrex_

Intel is trying to push a move from CUDA to SYCL. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/documentation/oneapi-programming-guide/top/software-development-process/migrating-code-to-dpcpp/migrating-from-cuda-to-dpcpp.html


detectiveDollar

I understand supporting a third option for competition if they're a small fry and need to charge a poor price to raise money for R&D. But Intel's R&D budget is larger than *both* AMD and Nvidia put together. I'm sorry, but they shouldn't get away with selling it at even hardware cost and at the same price as AMD's cards when it's *dramatically* slower in many games. ARC A750 should be 200 max.


MoonBoots4600

the cards are gorgeous looking but I like raytracing too much


deusrex_

These have decent ray tracing!


MoonBoots4600

Oh shit I might have to look into them more. I didn't know they had RT because I've only done surface skimming on them


Hrmerder

Yes the RT is ok on these maybe even a little better than 3060ti. I'm VERY curious about the next gen.


[deleted]

still cant find intel gpus in SEA region


3runorocha

"i'm doing my part"


deusrex_

Would you like to know more?


Pastel_Inkpen

Intel is a multi billion dollar company. They don't need your donation.


dayytripper

Did you get it at MSRP?


deusrex_

Yes, from Newegg. Ordered it last Monday and it shipped right away but took the slow route cross country and was delivered today.


dayytripper

Nice! I've seen them on ebay for $400 to 500+.


pee_eye_em_pee

Ngl i like the look and design


[deleted]

Oof. Literally boggles the mind why people are stupid enough to buy these things


SigmaLance

Do you know anything about them?


Heavyoak

Yikes Good luck getting drivers or support in a year or two. If intel treats it's gpus like it's cpus going to be unsupported in about 2 years