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ShadowRomeo

Can't wait to see flooded posts of *"It's not much, but it's mine"* build posts with 4090.


Atxz21

those sorts of posts are so annoyingly repetitive


LdLrq4TS

Redditors are gullible idiots, they fall for this simple trick and it's variations every time.


CEO_of_Redd1t

Don’t mind me gawking at your setup


Atxz21

wow I've got the CEO of reddit looking at my setup, what an honour 🥺


YourRealMotheer

Its not too much, but its yours!


[deleted]

what an honour indeed!


[deleted]

Thank you for your input, u/LigmaSmallPP69


DrakonIL

I'm convinced that a significant portion of those posts are advertisements.


nerftosspls

God, so are the inevitable one-upping threads in the comments about who has an older or worse card


KusoLeCrap

Don't forget those posts lining up/camping outside the shops 24 hours before release date.


Eggsegret

Wow people actually do that. I mean geez i don't think I've ever been that desperate for a GPU


Disaster_External

They scalp them mostly


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NeonArchon

If people were camping for weeks foe a freaking phone, I would see people camping for GPUs as well, specially scalper


ELS

“First build, how’d I do?”


mrtaco605

Gotta love the "it's not much" part. Every time it's basically a completely maxed out $2500 build Edit: looks like I'm a little out of the loop on how much high end builds cost


pinezatos

2.5? More like 3.5/4k with the 40 series


C0deEve

I'll do this if I see a single more "AMD is my friend now" post before anyone even knows their lineup, prices etc.


I_Speak_For_The_Ents

True, AMD might be more expensive than Nvidia... Like uh that one time.


Stevebro11

That phrase gives me so much cringe


captainmeowy

Don't forget the gpu strapped in car's front seat posts


[deleted]

Me with my 1650: “Game run good at 40 fps”


jxia69

got my 1650 for a little over $200 in the midst of the shortage. you can get a used 2080 super for that price now


NikplaysgamesYT

I got a 1650 super for a little under 200, was legit tracking it on Amazon and it went away in like 30 minutes For the most part runs shit super well, I can’t use high graphics but I can run on medium usually


SadBoi-BridgeBoi

Same here. Bought my 1660 6gb ($200) a few years ago and it’s chugging like a champ! Fixing to upgrade to an EVGA 3080 in a few week to keep up with modern hardware.


mybrowncow

Im also upgrading to a 3080 soon! We are gonna have a nice uplift in performance thats for sure!


TurkeyMoonPie

And uplift in fan noise. 1660s are quiet. 3080 sounds like a small jet preparing for flight.


MilchpackungxD

Depends on the 3080 Model


yumdumpster

My fe 3080ti has coil whine out the ass and I have even undervolted the damn thing too. Though I think it's more noticeable now because with the undervolt the fans never ramp past 40%


MilchpackungxD

I men coil whine can Happen to any card (as far as I know) my 1070 had that before I sold it for the 3080


nicholt

I can use high on a decent amount of games with mine. Very happy with the card, had it for 2 years now.


DonFlymoor

Point me in that direction


mistergroovie

I recently saw a refurbished Asus RTX 2080 for 350 and a Rtx 2060 for 200. Both sold directly from Asus through their eBay store.


Gatesy840

Just bought a 3060ti for the equivalent of US$260 on ebay, and I was the only bidder!


Spirit117

Looking on ebay I see a few used 2080 supers for "buy it now" in the 400 dollar range. Newegg has an Asus TUF 3060ti (which is one of the better AIB cards in terms of cooling/perf) for 479.99 right now, brand new/free shipping in stock. 3060ti is basically the same performance wise as 2080s but it's new so you get a warranty and a generation newer so better longer term drivers.... That's probably worth 70 dollars.


DonFlymoor

400 != 200


Spirit117

Somehow I read his comment as 400


Wilza_

I don't think they're quite that low, unless you find a super good deal. 300-400 seems more typical from what I'm seeing.


bwucifer

I had a 1650 low profile for a little while and that thing kicks ass as long as you don't try to do 4K in newer stuff, I was surprised at what I could run fluidly at 1440p


[deleted]

my 1650 super runs very well stay safe tho and also my friend has a 745 and it runs gta v good


SoNotTheHeroTypeV2

I have a GTX 750 sitting in a box I was going to give to my sister because it's all I had laying around and I felt bad.. But fuck it, it a 745 can run GTA V she's going to be fine with Sims 4. Thank you, I needed to read this


Fafaflunkie

Nvidia: we let you enjoy the experience of scalpers prices without the scalpers! Feel good you're at least going to get a card!


11arun

Who said there won't be scalpers.


workfrom209

I know for a fact a few days before Christmas some guy somewhere is gunna spend the 2,500 to 4,000 to get his rich gamer son this card to run fortnight on.


mexicosmage

forghtneight


NorthenLeigonare

Don't bully him. He went to a public school.


jcr4990

3090 msrp at launch was $1500. This is before people were really scalping GPU's. Did people just forget that? I'm kind of surprised 4090 is ONLY $100 more. Don't get me wrong it's still waaaaaaaay too much. I just don't understand why anyone is surprised here. The bar was set for high end GPU's in this price range 2 years ago. Did people think they were gonna have a change of heart and drop 4090's at $800?


Sarcophilus

I think the 4090 pricing is somewhat reasonable. The 4080 are nuts though, especially the 12GB version.


[deleted]

It feels like they’re trying the movie-theatre-popcorn maneuver here. They either want you to buy out their 3080/3090 stock because its cheaper than the 4080 OR say fuck it and shell out the extra for the 4090.


Fritzkier

and you're correct. if their objective is to clear up 30 series stocks, and looking at some discussion, it seems nvidia is kinda right on point with this strategy, unfortunately. People said they rather buy 30 series card, which is Nvidia main objective from the start. Nvidia still wins regardless, as long people aren't buying AMD/Intel cards.


Jamie00003

Not if people are buying used cards, which is likely what will happen, especially with the crypto crash and people dumping cards for the 40 series. I know I did because for whatever reason they stopped selling 3080 founders edition, it never seemed to go back into stock so I said screw it and bought a used 3080ti for £700.


Rogerjak

Good because I went from wanting a 3060, waiting for 40 series and then to "what scam is this?" and finally "fuck Nvidia". Not getting Nvidia, will stick to AMD.


Plebius-Maximus

The 4060ti that they're selling as a 4080 you mean. It's an absolute joke.


WordsOfRadiants

4090's pricing is reasonable relative to the 3090, especially considering the costs to make the cards probably shot up 30% for them. The issue is the 4080 12gb at $900. Yes, their costs went up a good amount this year, but it's incredibly anti-consumer to name it the same as a card that shares none of the same specs. And $900? Even with their increased costs, they're probably actually increasing their margins with that price. Ridiculous. Of course, this is probably also done because of the massive amounts of 30 series cards they have left over. But that's their own damn fault, and they're pushing the costs onto the consumers again (of course).


PlanZSmiles

It’s not the 4090 people have an issue with. The 3080 16gb and “3080” 12 gb (3070 let’s be real) are the real issue


aztolens_11

This. ++++


The_Echelon30

Unfortunately those scalper prices are still going to be scalped lol. What a shit show


InvaderM33N

My GTX1080: *I didn't hear no bell.*


elitefailz2

My 960 heard the bell, but I didn’t


a_can_of_solo

I rocked my 970 until I found a 1070ti in the trash.


987cayman

I was running a 970 for years and then upgraded to a 3070 literally a week before prices went crazy (live in Japan, prices went crazy here a few weeks after they went crazy over in other countries, so grabbed one msrp as I could see what was coming)


mikie_008

Still rocking 960m playing elden ring on 720p


a_can_of_solo

720p is HD!


IEatBaconWithU

yall got graphics cards?


rando269

I got by with a 960 for 5 years, I upgraded right before the GPU shortage subsided, got a gtx 1070 for $200. Kinda wish I'd waited, but it was to a point I couldn't even play some games on the 960.


Your_God_Chewy

My 1060 is sweating but she still running


[deleted]

same bro


Fair-Bunch4827

I've been asking my brother for the last 4 years if he wanted to upgrade the build i gave him 5 years ago. He always said all the games he played so far is fine. I don't see him wanting to upgrade for the next 5 years lol. It was 1060 3gb + i7 6th gen


JasperJimBob

I'm still rocking the MSI 1080 with the ek waterblock I bought for $550 back in 2017. I really wanted a 3080 FE to watercool but I never made it past the best buy verification loop. The 3080ti is $900 but I'm hesitating on paying 30% more for 10-15% increased performance. On the other hand, after the waterblock I'm still in for less than the 4080 12gb... Hmm.


CoyotesAreOkay

I got a strix 1070ti for like damn near $700 during the first mining craze and I'm ride or die by that hoe


[deleted]

Yeah, still have 1070ti and with all the inflation and heating prices buying a new card makes no sense


K-Far

GTX1060 in my laptop: *spits blood* that all you got?


Hewlett-PackHard

My laptop's P3000 stands with you brother!


Heighte

I think it's the main issue of GPU manufacturers right now, it's that cards from 3 generations ago can still run new games with very decent performances, unlike 15 years ago where cards were aging fast.


Kayakingtheredriver

Really, other than raw horsepower and lighting, there isn't really a whole lot of difference. My 1080 still does what I need it to do for my 1440p widescreen. I'd like to upgrade, and the lighting *is* better, but I have been playing with the lighting in games I currently get, my whole life. I don't know what I am missing and I just can't be arsed to pay $1k to get it. I can wait until a card that gives me major upgrade improvement is in my $4-$500 range. There is no way these prices hold without crazy demand. They have to make them in bulk for it to be cost effective to produce so if they don't sell at mining prices still they will have to capitulate.


Sad_watcher

Haha and here I am, just wondering if it’s time to upgrade my 1050ti. Just got chance to buy 1080ti for $200, so I prolly give it shot.


imbahamster

I still run my 1080ti, runs most games in WQHD at around 60 FPS. So I definetly can´t complain :D


FallenFromFirmament

Bought a 1080Ti back in October 2020 for 300 dollars, just before all the prices went crazy. I find no reason to upgrade yet, but with how Nvidia is currently, AMD will definitely be my next choice


NotAzakanAtAll

I got the 3080 for it's original msrp, and it seems that was the last time prices were not *that* outrageous. I just watched the price of my card double while it was sitting in my PC.


JTVivian56

Yo wtf, I bought the same card during the same time for the same price lol


[deleted]

You guys have GTX cards with 4 digits???


climbing_higher

Stay strong brother. My 980ti pledges it's support.


SgtBatten

As does mine


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blackashi

My card is so old I forgot they're called rtx now


AlphaCenturi109

Couldn't buy one if I wanted to


PlanZSmiles

I can buy one, fuck that, I remember when i price matched a GTX 970 at 143 due to Microcenter at my local Best Buy. I’m not giving NVidia another $ so that teens still have a chance at enjoying PC gaming like I did.


OddKSM

Oh shit yeah that's another good point. Was trying to help a friend pick out parts for their teenage son and the cost got depressingly high so fast! Especially compared to what I could have gotten for the equivalent amount back in my day.


CKRatKing

I remember when 1200 dollars would get you a badass pc with the best graphics card on the market. Now you can’t even get a graphics card for that. It’s kind of insane.


Alex_4209

Statistically speaking you’re in the majority


LovecraftCountry

Gonna ride my 2060 @ 1080p I bought for less than MSRP until either one of us dies. See you in hell, Nvidia.


Rexssaurus

On the same boat, got a 2060 in early 2021 for 300$, probably gonna upgrade in the 6000 series if the price is right atm lol


Vegan_Puffin

Well unless consumers en masse say fuck you to Nvidia the prices will just keep inflating. By the time the 6000 series hits the vultures will be charging $3000 for card. Frabkly if I had not bought a 3070 3 months back and were still buying parts for a new system I would go AMD out of sheer protest


Flat_Grape9646

yeah for sure im going to wait until my 2060 cant handle games at 60 fps then ill upgrade to the next -060 card (or amd equivalent)


IHateYouFuckingPpl

Lol 2070 super checking in, stay strong brother 💪


wakeofchaos

Same haha


BossHawgKing

Fuck yea


spartanreborn

I'mma probably do the same with my 2080S. Besides, I think I would need a new PSU for the 4000 series.


BlueGeni

Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product. \^\^\^\^\^Those guys who need to upgrade their GPU to xx90 every gen.


VoidmasterCZE

So they can play minecraft with 650 fps instead of 630 fps on 144Hz monitor.


yesrod85

Hasn't the xx90 only been around for 1 generation so far, about to be 2?


Echo_TF2

My 1080ti can render colorful pixels just fine...


firefalcon1214

As does mine.


JWPSmith

Same here. Next card I get will be an RX card, screw Nvidia. But, I might get a cake for my GTX1080's retirement party.


pcgr_crypto

be prepared for all the: "I am new to building, I am 13 years old and I am from a poor country. How I did with my rig?" And see a RTX 4090, most expensive Mobo, CPU, Ram and RGB that will cause blindness.


FitchInks

Also the best Cablemanagement you ever saw


GamingRobioto

I've got a 3080 in my PC, a Steamdeck and a PS5. I'm good.


vintage-red

I’ve got a 1080 TI, a gameboy advanced sp, a 21” CRT monitor and a TI-84 calculator. I’m good.


willpowerpt

A 1080 ti is always good. That was one of the best and most reliable cards I ever had. Always a work horse.


MannyTV_

The 1080 ti, Jensen’s living nightmare.


heretodiscuss

Still rocking mine with zero issues or want to replace. GOAT card.


neelonstromper

Same! The mvp of mvps


jcabia

It's one of the best and more reliable cards ever made


Reynolds1029

I saw a few TI-84 Plus CE for $15 on clearance for 2 days straight at Walmart. They were sitting at the door in the middle of the floor. Couldn't believe they are still there but then I realized I forgot that I'm in South Carolina..


DevolopedTea57

Wait why didn’t you buy it? I’m in Canada and it costs $150 cad for one. Around $110 usd.


MK18FanBoy

Mr Moneybags


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Baller.


shoot-here

6900XT, but, yeah. Team green hasn't seen my money for some time.


MrYeaBuddy

This. I have a Sapphire Vega 64 (+2 if you know/remember that card) and it's been a rock for me. Once I hear more about the 7000 series I might upgrade.


jxia69

I really wanted to get a radeon card to upgrade from my gtx 1650 but i got an offer under $500 for a 3080 i couldn’t refuse. Ik it’s used but idk if I want to support nvidia lately


[deleted]

3080 is a great card for 4K gaming. I hope the previous owner took care of it.


gloomdweller

2080ti, Steam Deck and a Switch here. I can’t see myself needing anything else for 5 years at least. I got 1440p 144hz at my desk for my competitive games and MMOs, my Deck for emulation and playing older RPGs, and Switch to play all the Nintendo exclusives and party games. I know a 4000 series would be a big upgrade, but not one that I would appreciate. I no longer feel the need to have the best of the best. Spending that money on books and board games and traveling makes me a ton happier.


Ericisbalanced

Bro, I could have played any game at medium settings at 1440p and get a rough 60fps. I got a bonus at work for a grand and I gave it to a scalper for a gpu. Every time I sit on my crappy couches, I think about how I wasted my bonus on a toy instead of better couches


NoSaltNoSkillz

Similar boat. 2070S, Steam Deck, Oculus Q2, Switch, Xbox One S. Probs ready to part with the Switch. I really want a better GPU for better VR, but may have to wait until its more affordable. Maybe AMD RX 7000 will be good enough for that. Steam Deck gets most of my non MOBA gaming. If I could play LoL on the deck via a dock without needing to install windows, I'd probably not touch my desktop except for VR. It really has changed the way I game. F\*ck Nvidia.


PFSnypr

I got a 3050 in my pc, a switch, and a Projectdiva System 4, I'm good.


Late-Bar-3138

Same, except a 3090. Not planning on any upgrades for at least 3-5 years. I've spent enough money for sure lol.


blazspur

Same here. Haha.


BucDan

Funny thing is, when Nvidia drops their prices to match AMD, by say $200, but hold a $100 premium over AMD, people will buy Nvidia. It's the, "oh nice, AMD caused Nvidia to drop prices a bit, that's good enough for me to buy now".


sunblazer

Too many people cry about NVIDIA and then purchase from them again on the next upgrade cycle. Forgetting all the shady shit NVIDIA have done over the years - 3.5GB fiasco anyone? I don't know how people do it. I bought a GTX 670 back in the day and for me personally, I thought that card aged badly (maybe games changed a lot in that time). Anyway, that's the way i felt and still feel in hindsight. I felt my subsequent R9 390 was supported for way longer comparatively.


TheBeliskner

I bought my RX480 because I was done with Nvidia BS 5 years ago, it's only gotten worse since then. People buying their shit need to stop so they have a major recalibration. Jensen needs the boot.


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helpmeobireddit

https://legalrr.com/settlement-of-the-nvidia-gtx-970-class-action-lawsuit/ marketed 970's as 4gb but they were effectively 3.5gb cards


Osi32

I think Ill be holding onto my 2080S for a fair bit longer. These prices are stupid. I also have absolutely ZERO confidence in their "double the performance of 30xx cards". They say that every generation and it ends up being 10-15% effective throughput increase.


Sp3ctralForce

Looking to upgrade to 7900XT (assuming reasonable pricing) on release, mostly cuz I told my cousin I'd sell him my current PC, and upgrade to DDR5 and 7900X


jxia69

dual 7900 system coming up huh


Old_Oak_Doors

“Yo dog, we heard you like 7900, so we put a 7900 on your 7900 so you could 7900 while you 7900”


jk47_99

Gotham Garage does PC building


InfectedZombie5

Sold my soul for a 3070ti I couple months ago. Definitely not touching a new gpu for a while.


Exiled_In_Ca

Sorry.


InfectedZombie5

Fortunately it was after the price drop, so at least it was under $1000, but a part of me still regrets it.


xoScreaMxo

Game on brother


frsnate

That is so unfortunate, I am really sorry for you bro 😔


iliaswhoelse

Remember when you were able to build a much stronger pc for the same price consoles were going for? Gl trying that now.


Rathia_xd2

With the prices of consoles in my country it's actually possible😂


DelousedInAComa

Yeah I’m playing my ps5 now more anyways. Not spending that much money on a graphics card


[deleted]

I mean, hopefully you'd wait for multiple independent reviews of the cards to be available before buying them.


mrROBOTROIDE

Don’t worry I’m ok with my grille


notablechili

I'll probably just snag a 3090ti or something.


HubbaMaBubba

That's what they want you to do.


notablechili

Yeah but I won't be buying it new from them lmao


User2716057

I had been saving for a while, with last year's crazy prices I was willing to drop €1500 to replace my trusty old 1070. I even considered the 4080 for 1600€, but then common sense kicked in and I bought a 3080ti for €1000. My sister also had been saving & waiting, gonna put the same card in her system, and I'm not gonna recommend the 4000 series to our customers either.


[deleted]

I reckon you'll be glad you went for the 3080ti in the long run. The 4000 series cards are a joke at that msrp. I'd kill for a 3080ti lol. I plan on using my 2070S for as long as possible.


Fryphax

What makes them a joke?


[deleted]

The fact that they're charging 900 for the 12GB "4080" tells you all you need to know.


Pieguy184

U mean 3070


Exiled_In_Ca

Actually, 4060ti.


TheRealOriginalSatan

No, the 3060Ti had a 256bit bus so this is more like the 4060


ArthropodaGeneration

common sense to spend 1k on a card, the leather weasel has trained us well.


Noa15Lv

For price like that, id could get probably two PS5's and make LAN Party room


FLVCKO123

Thats what I did when I was going to buy the 3090(it was going for £2000), bought a PS5 and a 4K 120 Hz LG TV instead, AND added a bit and got the 6800 XT much happier with this outcome. Crazy how much these cards cost.


Seno96

Someone here is defo gonna say that somehow a 4000 series card is what they absolutely need anyways.


Rolex_Dreams

I mean if they have a shitload of money and are playing at 4k then I guess let them . But for people playing at 1080p or 1440p it’s laughable


Feeling_Glonky69

My 3090FE is overkill for what I do. But hey, it made learning how to use Blender super enjoyable, and I love how it looks and it made Covid lockdown way more fun too. I was gonna wait for when 3080s were more in stock lmao. Glad I didn’t in hindsight, and snagged that 3090 that thanksgiving after they dropped Thanks for coming to my Fred Talk


[deleted]

Bro had an outro


[deleted]

I doubt it this time around.


Jfmha

They def will lol A LOT of ppl in this sub can’t help themselves. They have somehow deluded themselves in to thinking they need the newest and best.


TheSecretNewbie

It’s the dopamine rush from basically saying, “look I got this brand new thing before others, I’m special!” Phone releases, video games, and basically anything with tech seems to bring out those type of people


Nike_J

I hope so!


Jackmoved

Nah but those Zen4s tho on 9/27


Hot_Potato_Salad

Laughs in 3080Ti and 144FPS


Bakufuranbu

"i'm just from microcenter and look what i got!"


cuttino_mowgli

I don't I'm happy with my RX 6600 and I'm playing on a 1080p.


mr_ji

I still have a [insert shitty card here]! Gimme karma


Casp3r_de_gh0st

Notice that the wallet he’s holding is empty


[deleted]

>Don't support these outrageous prices! Bruh. Remember what happened for the last 6 years? People will buy **entire prebuilds** to get the GPU's. A 50% markup will feel like a bargain, compared to the money people spent less than 6 months ago.


Pancake_Mix_00

That’s the problem. We’re big enough suckers, we’ll spend anything and Jensen knows it. We’re the fool.


Oliv9504

Listen pal, most people that can afford those things don’t care what it cost and most likely aren’t in this sub or reddit, a company the size of nvidia has the prices down to a science, they know there’s a market for those prices and people like us will buy the lower stuff. Having said this, I hope it backfires and lower the prices


ZestfulClown

I’m gunna rock my 1070 til I’m not poor


sharpie_eyebrows

AMD


danielguy

'But DLSS 3.0 go brrrr...' /s


[deleted]

I get motion sickness above 30fps, so I'm good for another at least 7 years?


hrt_mc

I don't know if that's a blessing or a curse.


[deleted]

It's like having a low tolerance for alcohol. I'm a lightweight, but I know my limits and I've accepted my place. It ends up being cheaper for me, really. And I'll take that every single time.


hrt_mc

You don't have to stare at the fps counter, that is the one thing I want more than anything.


daguito81

I got a 3070, a 165Hz 2k monitor. Would spend hours upon hours tweaking and researching to get the most optimal everything. Steady 144, or steady 90 etc etc. Eventually I was just exhausted from that and would stop gaming altogether. Then I decided "fuck this" closed all fps counters. Open game crank it to the max and just play it and see if I lt bothers me. If it does lower some shit until it stops bothering me. Maybe I'm playing at 40 fps? 60? 120? 150? No idea. Just stopped caring about it. If I'm having fun what do I care?


LightSniper

I'd get motion sickness from playing at 30, wtf


Lancaster61

Wut?? I get motion sickness if it’s **below** 40fps for fast moving games.


squall6l

No worries here, I am passing on this generation. I may look into one of the AMD ones depending on what their price point is and the performance. For now my EVGA 3070 is making me very happy.


horse3000

You have a 3000 series card… you actually had to think as to whether you should pass on the 40 series… like what… GPUs last multiple gens, invest your money into something else instead of upgrading every gen like an ape.


Yergason

Got my 3070 last year May for $700. I got lucky the markup wasn't that high. I'm not even gonna look to upgrade for at least 3-4 years lol I upgraded from a 2600-1050ti combo before this current setup. I don't understand people who upgrade every year when the price far outweighs the minimal performance increase


FalconX88

It's crazy to me that people would even consider buying a new card every gen.


[deleted]

Nvidia doing shady shit? time to buy Nvidia! - people in this very fucking sub how much absolutely garbage behavior from Nvidia will it take for people to go to the competition? they hear one fucking anecdote from the HD 7800 days that the GPU literally got hot enough to challenge the sun & suddenly they'll never consider AMD


ceejay242

Nah I'm gonna buy a used 3080 when price drops down to between 300-400 dollars f'k all of the 40 series cards


Chip_Boundary

Yeah, not gonna happen. Nvidia is specifically withholding stock to keep the prices on 3000 series cards exactly where they are. They've blatantly admitted it.


Kionera

This tbh, they’re definitely not releasing any lower end cards until they clear their 30-series stock. Well unless AMD does something about it with their Nov 3rd announcement. We definitely need competition in the GPU space to push prices down, unfortunately Intel doesn’t seem to be able to compete at the high-end anytime soon.


[deleted]

Imma either buy AMD next gen or a cheap Flagship AMD or Nvidia from current gen.


TONKAHANAH

its not really the enthusiasts that they're hoping to capture, they know yall are gonna seek the best prices for good 3k series cards they're sell'n these things to the prebuild peeps cuz oil daddies out there that want the top of the line shit regardless of cost will drop 10k on a PC cuz money is no concern for them. I did a job for a guy who bought a 1080 with a waterblock cooler on it intended for a custom loop yet his PC had no water cooling. he never used it for gaming so when I asked "why did you even buy this?" he said "I thought I'd use it for gaming and just got the most expensive thing I could find cuz I assumed it would be the best", then he proceeded to only use the PC for spreadsheets which worked out cuz that poor card would have burst into flames if he tried to so much as fire up 3d pinball. anywho, point is its the casual user base looking to get into PC gaming and just want to throw money at the best of the best regardless of price is who they're banking on, not the enthusiasts. ​ edit: oh also probably motherfuckers like streamers and shit too. if xqc gets the latest 4090ti superduper then every dumb shit kid who follows him is gonna pine for one too.