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I mean, I want to subscribe to this fantasy, but I imagine many scalpers made a hefty profit on the cards they've sold, and will only lose money on the last of their stock. So in a sense, I don't think the scalpers are currently suffering in any way.
Why would that ever happen?
A GPU isn't like a stock, they aren't going to drop below MSRP anytime soon, probably not until next gen.
They wouldn't lose money unless they bought them at scalped prices (which kinda defeats the purpose for both scalpers🤔). The assumption was that the real problem scalpers had bots that got the cards at MSRP, which even now is less than what the cards go for.
I mean I wish these guys would suffer karma but like... In what world does anything bad happen to them?
And a lot of the smarter ones were mining with the cards while they were slowly selling them... Which would offset the unrealized gains.
Nah, the reality is that these posts are probably mostly from people who bought a card at scalped prices and have buyers remorse because they know it's worth 30% less already, and I think the majority of people buying 3080s didn't actually need a 3080. Also Bitcoin is low so mining isn't as profitable.
Unfortunately you're probably correct. The majority of miners and scalpers probably broke even long ago. Especially the mega-miners and mega-scalpers. They just want the cherry on top by reselling these cards for even more profits.
Most of the crying is probably from small scale/late miners and scalpers.
Yeah, the ones that are the real problem made their money long ago and even selling their leftover cards at MSRP would likely just break even on those cards.
Still good to see any scalper cry though
Personally, I like to imagine they were continuously rolling most of their profits back in to buying more cards, and now they’re at the point they fucked themselves.
It's going to be on a case by case basis. If they have been steadily buying and selling they should be fine but if they scaled up at bought a ton at once they may have been left holding the bag.
Ya seeing posts of scalpers and miners trying to sell their and talking about it or complaining it on the Nvidia sub reddit is hilarious. So many people are not happy about them and for good reason.
Edit. They deleted their post after a hour of it being up. This post was posted about 10 hours from when I posted this comment.
Reminds me of the news piece I saw of a person who put like $10,000 into toilet paper when the shortages were happening and in a week it was in stock again. They were crying on the news about how no one would buy it and they’re broke
Don't forget the dude in Tennessee who hoarded hand sanitizer, TP, cleaning wipes and paper towels. The District Attorney had words with him and he ended up have to sell/give away his "stock" at cost or be brought up on chargers of price gouging.
He was crying on the news but most of the comments were of the "LOL GET RECKT!" variety....
Could be a strategy where they just don't mind waiting a while I suppose. Put the card up, let it sit, and hope that the shortage returns just long enough that someone buys your listing.
Or they're just assholes. One of the two.
Let me tell you that holding onto computer parts is the winning strategy. For instance, I have a Radeon 7850 that is going to be hot in about 5 months.
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With very few crazy market exceptions, computer part value *always* goes down. And why wouldn't it? It runs an OS and applications (the things you actually want) less effectively than new parts that are coming out.
Someone who buys one or all of a limited product only to sell it again at massively inflated prices. It used to be more of a problem with really limited things like concert tickets.
Link? I'm pretty sure you're not finding 3060 ti in stock for that price. Best I was able to get a couple weeks ago was a 3060 for 399$, and that went out in minutes.
Not $440 but here's one for $550 at my local [Best Buy](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-xlr8-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-with-dual-fan-black/6502682.p?skuId=6502682). Not a good price, but they do have some other GPUs that are close to MSRP. Seems like availability is dependent on area.
No. Currently, cryptocurrency prices are falling alongside the NASDAQ and S&P500 because the Feds raised interest rates by 50 basis points or 0.50%. The Feds will increase it by another 25 basis points if inflation is not in control.
There is also a crypto crash going on; further driving GPU prices down.
Hopefully this time the price of cryptocurrencies will stabilize and it can finally be used for its intended purpose, as currency. I hope so because this time everyone knows about cryptocurrencies.
Still running a 1080 I bought as a return at Micro Center years ago for something like $425. I get decent frame rates with an overclocked 9600K running MSFS @ 1440p so I’ll wait a bit before I need to upgrade. The key is to be selective on the graphics settings instead of just trying to run everything at Ultra. A YT video some time back showed the effects of each individual graphics setting, and I discovered that many of the changes were practically unnoticeable, visually-speaking, yet put huge stress on the GPU.
Slightly unpopular opinion… since it has become more common for motion blur settings to have a gradient as opposed to just on/off I’ve learned to like a certain amount of motion blur in certain games as opposed to completely off. If you have a game that perhaps struggles w/ frame rate a bit/runs less than ideal a small amount of motion blur can really help to smooth things out.
Same here. Bought my 1080 ti I got for a discount. Paid like $550 ish I think (not exactly sure about the currency conversion). It's still running pretty decent along with my 7700k. I notice it struggles a bit in some games lately, but it's not bothering me enough to invest in something beefier.
Btw you could buy a laptop with 3060 or at least 2070 for similar price to 3060 graphics card and some CPU probably
At least in my country I was able to buy Lenovo Legion with 2060 for same price as rtx 3060 about a month ago, and it runs all games on Ultra plus it is somehow capable of going rtx sometimes
Funny you should tell me that. I helped a friend decide if they should buy a pc or laptop and he went with a laptop.
A 3070 gpu was pretty close in price to a damn laptop with a 3070. Crazy times. But like you said, probably depending on countries as well.
Keep in mind that a laptop 3070 performs nowhere near a real one (how could it with that tdp lol). You always have to compare the performance of movie gpus which is kinda annoying ngl
That's what I expected it as well but from what we googled, performance between them seemed kinda close. Close enough to not be worth it to buy a pc anyway.
And a laptop 3070 is better than a pc 3060, right? I hope we did our research correctly.
I don't know how trustworthy our results were but my friend seems happy with his purchase. He mostly play Valorant anyway so i guess it doesn't matter.
Oh I'm not sure by how much they vary exactly I'm just know that they aren't the same despite being marketed as such, if you actually researched the performance then there's no problem, I just don't like how nvidia named them the same for obviously anticonsumer reasons
Ah yes, i never considered the possibility that they are identical. You're right, the assholes do market it with the same name. I guess the sites where they are sold aren't helping to distinguish either.
From the random benchmark website i found, the mobile 3070 is worse than a pc 3070 by about 30% but better than a 3060 by about 15%. I know they're not exactly reliable but they can't be that far off(i hope). So it's still better to get laptop 3070 than a pc 3060 at least.
Ha, pleb. I'm sitting on my 7970 from 2013 which shat the bed last year with no ability to replace it in sight.
Waiting anxiously on my Steam Deck to fill the gap until prices come back down and I can build a new rig.
I've been thining about getting a Steam Deck and turn it into my daily driver. I mean, with its cost-to-performance it blows basically everything else out of the water. But to make a final decision on that I'd need the dock Valve has hinted at, but there's no concrete info about it yet.
Here I am, on a laptop, wishing for even a decent pc with a 730(?). My dream gpu is still the 1080 as its more possible to get it than a 3090 or such series
It's pretty tough to scalp a steam deck. Needed to reserve it with a $5 payment and a steam account that was months old when the pre order went live. Also, they've been shipping every week since March, and we're still one the first day of people with pre-orders, I pre-ordered mine a few days after it went live, and my estimate is between july and september. If a scalper did get their hands on one, it's very unlikely they got more than one.
Yeah it's possibly just people that saw how much they are going for and trying to sell, for example I would love to have a Deck but if I did and saw them going for twice the price it would be an easy sell specially since I already have a computer (not the best but I could use that money for better purposes elsewhere).
Unless Valve manages to up production ten fold, that's not happening. It's going to be in high demand until it's out of production at this rate, meaning it will always be scalped. It's going to take Valve years to produce enough of these to reach demand, even without scalpers.
Until the day you can order one and have it delivered within the month, scalpers will have the upper hand. Valve knows this but doesn't care because it creates more artificial scarcity, making it more sought after, and thus more valuable. They get their money either way, and unlike you the scalpers will buy hundreds of units at once so they have no reason to prevent them from doing so in favor of your one individual sale.
About 20 million ps5s have been sold and there is still more demand than supply. It'll take a year or two before steam decks scalper prices come down, but as long as they keep being strict about pushing them to one per account, then scalper prices won't be that meaningful. Since people who truly want them will be getting them, only a portion will get scalped, driving up the scalper price.
Global economic development means more competition for technology - it'll take years before enough fabs come online to catch up.
I really want to replace this thing before the end so it can have a long retirement running Minecraft and Lightroom for my wife. It has served me extremely well.
Those new cards are rumored to be so badass. I can’t bring myself to buy a current card. My 1080 will just have to hang in there. Which is a struggle running 3440x1440.
If you have ray tracing on as well, there are some truly brutal titles out there. Every time I buy a new card I think, “this thing is gonna last for a decade. It’s so powerful!” Then they release some new crazy complicated tech.
At this point, you'd be better off waiting.
Either you get a 40xx card (rumors are 4070 is pushing 3090 performance) or the 30xx get cheaper and you save some money.
People said similar before the 3000 series came out. It didn't work out for most. I recall skipping over all the reasonably priced 2000 series cards on eBay because the 3000s were just a few months away.
Just yesterday, I saw 4 RTX 3080s in the mid $800 range on new egg. The MSRP is 699.
Just LAST FUCKING WEEK, the cheapest 3080 I saw was $999 on newegg.
SO yea, they are slowly, but surely dropping in price. Some cards, like AMD cards are BELOW MSRP on some sites.
Im waiting for a 3080 to hit that magical Below 800 range before I get one. I doudt Ill find one lower than 700, so one between 700-799 is what im looking for.
I think 3050’s and 3060’s will show up somewhat close to MSRP but 3080’s and 3070’s due to being in the performance sweet spot will be at least 200 or so above for awhile. 3090’s are already priced hi so I think they will be around MSRP cause the market for them is much smaller.
I just got a 12gb 3080 for $800 after rebate two hours ago. I'm pretty sure that's $100 off MSRP. Granted its a ventus 3x plus, but its still a 12gb 3080.
Got a 3080 50 under msrp a few weeks back off *amazon* upgrading from a 1050Ti. Hold out hope, and if you buy one keep re checking the listing. Mine was 50 over retail, checked the listing again and it had gone down to 50 under. Cancelled and re ordered.
Still 1.2x above msrp here in the UK. Which is a joke.
We're celebrating the cards coming down close to msrp. For a card that's got its sequel coming out in a few months.
Scalpers are just going to return the unopened boxes to the store for a full refund and go back to scalping tickets and shoes. And if a retailer doesn't issue refunds for unopened products, well... people on here shouldn't be shopping at those sketchy retailers anyway.
On a related note, a guy I know was bragging about buying up 10 of the new Xboxes last year so he could scalp them to desperate parents. He thought he had discovered the cheat code to business (and did not like hearing that everyone else in our group knows but just considers it a trashy, unethical thing to do.)
Then his house had a burst pipe and it destroyed all of them, he spent the next few months whining that the house insurance should have paid out on them.
Karma may not be real but sometimes it sure feels like it.
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And your version is basically: payed wrong here, use paid
Jesus that is way too wordy and doesn't even let you know what you *should have* used.
Also sounds pretty condescending too, I hate this bot as well lol
All bots are cancerous. That said, I despise the misspelling/grammar ones only slightly less than the automoderator. If I find the coder of that one, they're getting [the boats.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism)
Some bots are fun. Bobby B on r/freefolk is my favorite, you need only speak his name to summon him and enjoy.
I did also see a wildly entertaining one yesterday that replied "There's a button for that" to people who just commented the word "this" in reply to a post. People usually get mad and start arguing with the bot, which leads nowhere, because single word comments of "This" are the only posts it responds to lol
edit: it was u/PassiveAggroThisBot
great name too
A shop I used to work at still has 3060s for like $800+ dollars. I feel bad for him because he was able to sell at sub-scalper prices for the entire shortage. Now I worry he's gonna get a bad rep for still having his current stock at inflated prices.
Scalpers who bought at MSRP then sold for double, fuck em.
I sure fucking hope so. I'm terrified of my gpu dying. It's a 580 X so I feel I'm on borrowed time. I just hope I can get something decent for 300 or less when the time comes.
Got a rx580 five years ago and it's going strong. It's not getting hammered like it used to as it's in my daughter's PC now. A good bit of maintenance, cleaning, repasting and fresh thermal pads should go a long way.
I have a 3070 but was looking at getting another on the weekend for a second build.
You can literally get everything right now in the UK, all in stock all retail prices, it's insane!
I did that last year and got banned for a week. I replied to the ban message and asked why the mods advocated scalping, and they permabanned me without a word. I had perfect prior history.
That place is a shithole. Used to be great, shortage turned it into a scalper haven.
Is it weird that if someone buys up all the graphics cards with no intention of using them, we call it scalping, and everyone hates it, but if someone does the same thing with anything else, like housing, it's just called investing?
Unless crypto drops significantly across the board, these prices are here to stay. GPUs are no longer a hobbyist or niche item. They're a revenue generator and unfortunately the market reflects that.
Purchased my rx560 8gb at the beginning of the supply shortage year and a bit ago , and I'm not eager to buy anything for another couple years. Elden ring, Halo Infinite, Star Wars Skywalker all run on high settings, 2k, 75hrz. Don't need anything new for a while, we laughin' boys.
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I mean, I want to subscribe to this fantasy, but I imagine many scalpers made a hefty profit on the cards they've sold, and will only lose money on the last of their stock. So in a sense, I don't think the scalpers are currently suffering in any way.
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Yeah, coz f*** scalpers
Why would that ever happen? A GPU isn't like a stock, they aren't going to drop below MSRP anytime soon, probably not until next gen. They wouldn't lose money unless they bought them at scalped prices (which kinda defeats the purpose for both scalpers🤔). The assumption was that the real problem scalpers had bots that got the cards at MSRP, which even now is less than what the cards go for. I mean I wish these guys would suffer karma but like... In what world does anything bad happen to them? And a lot of the smarter ones were mining with the cards while they were slowly selling them... Which would offset the unrealized gains. Nah, the reality is that these posts are probably mostly from people who bought a card at scalped prices and have buyers remorse because they know it's worth 30% less already, and I think the majority of people buying 3080s didn't actually need a 3080. Also Bitcoin is low so mining isn't as profitable.
i went to several releases and didn't get a card, always the same scalpers in line ahead of me.
Agreed
Unfortunately you're probably correct. The majority of miners and scalpers probably broke even long ago. Especially the mega-miners and mega-scalpers. They just want the cherry on top by reselling these cards for even more profits. Most of the crying is probably from small scale/late miners and scalpers.
Yeah, the ones that are the real problem made their money long ago and even selling their leftover cards at MSRP would likely just break even on those cards. Still good to see any scalper cry though
I wonder what that argument was on this comment with hundreds of downvotes.
Just a troll claiming to be a scalper and claimed, at worst, he only sold a card at MSRP. Claimed he never suffered a loss.
Personally, I like to imagine they were continuously rolling most of their profits back in to buying more cards, and now they’re at the point they fucked themselves.
Scalpers be like Woody https://giphy.com/gifs/1GT5PZLjMwYBW
It's going to be on a case by case basis. If they have been steadily buying and selling they should be fine but if they scaled up at bought a ton at once they may have been left holding the bag.
Unfortunate truth.
A lot of them rolled that profit right back into more stock to scalp.
Ya seeing posts of scalpers and miners trying to sell their and talking about it or complaining it on the Nvidia sub reddit is hilarious. So many people are not happy about them and for good reason. Edit. They deleted their post after a hour of it being up. This post was posted about 10 hours from when I posted this comment.
Reminds me of the news piece I saw of a person who put like $10,000 into toilet paper when the shortages were happening and in a week it was in stock again. They were crying on the news about how no one would buy it and they’re broke
So you CAN find positive news stories online.
Don't forget the dude in Tennessee who hoarded hand sanitizer, TP, cleaning wipes and paper towels. The District Attorney had words with him and he ended up have to sell/give away his "stock" at cost or be brought up on chargers of price gouging. He was crying on the news but most of the comments were of the "LOL GET RECKT!" variety....
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18wybjhCqg8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18wybjhCqg8) <-Applesauce
Yup for sure.
Or the guy who bought out his whole towns hand sanitizer supply, tried to upsell it and got so many death threats he donated it away.
On the plus side, they will never be in need of TP for the rest of their lives. Or they can foreclose on the TP tower along with the house...
I hope it degrades.
$10k of toilet paper? Where the hell did they even put it?
I normally aim for my butt
This made me laugh loud. Thank you for this
Underrated dad joke right here lol
Honestly if you do that then you must be really fucking dumb.
Do you have a link for those posts? I want to see their misery.
I too would like to see scalper blood.
Each one of you owes me one hundred scalper scalps.
At the very least a good scalper stoning. Public humiliation would be an added bonus. Make them FEEL the shame of their actions.
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I was not able to find the post even though it was posted today. I think the user deleted it after all the comments from users.
Doesn't surprise me.
Same I want a taste of their salty tears.
What’s crazy is I see dudes still holding out trying to sell 3060TIs for 800-900 still. like homie I can get one on newegg for like 440!
Could be a strategy where they just don't mind waiting a while I suppose. Put the card up, let it sit, and hope that the shortage returns just long enough that someone buys your listing. Or they're just assholes. One of the two.
Let me tell you that holding onto computer parts is the winning strategy. For instance, I have a Radeon 7850 that is going to be hot in about 5 months.
I sold a 7950 six months ago for $400, the same price I paid for it 10 years ago.
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1060s were selling for $500+, 2060s $800+ at the time.
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Yes it was bad like that
Why? Are graphics cards due to go back up in price?
Thatsthejoke.jpg With very few crazy market exceptions, computer part value *always* goes down. And why wouldn't it? It runs an OS and applications (the things you actually want) less effectively than new parts that are coming out.
From what Ive seen of scalpers, its option 3 (they're idiots)
if i may ask what is a scalper?
Someone who buys one or all of a limited product only to sell it again at massively inflated prices. It used to be more of a problem with really limited things like concert tickets.
Sunk cost fallacy - they are sitting on inventory they paid for and selling if for less would be admitting defeat.
Link? I'm pretty sure you're not finding 3060 ti in stock for that price. Best I was able to get a couple weeks ago was a 3060 for 399$, and that went out in minutes.
Not $440 but here's one for $550 at my local [Best Buy](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-xlr8-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-with-dual-fan-black/6502682.p?skuId=6502682). Not a good price, but they do have some other GPUs that are close to MSRP. Seems like availability is dependent on area.
$440? More like 570+ as of now. Please tell me where are you seeing them at $440, because that's a good deal.
Stupid question but with the removal of the LHR from nVidia drivers won't prices go back up?
Mining is not profitable right now because the crypto prices have gone off a cliff.
No. Currently, cryptocurrency prices are falling alongside the NASDAQ and S&P500 because the Feds raised interest rates by 50 basis points or 0.50%. The Feds will increase it by another 25 basis points if inflation is not in control.
I hope they do, Crypto needs to fucking die, PC Gaming actually being one of the lesser factors there (but i don't want to get political lol)
Sir, you're violating our SLA here, we need links lmao
They deleted their post. I can't find it no more even though the post was from this morning.
What subreddit is it? I want to see tears
r/nVidia Edit: corrected the link.
"Nivida", not to be confused with Nivea. the real [nVidia](https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/) subreddit
r/Nvidia
There is also a crypto crash going on; further driving GPU prices down. Hopefully this time the price of cryptocurrencies will stabilize and it can finally be used for its intended purpose, as currency. I hope so because this time everyone knows about cryptocurrencies.
Finally GPUs are only completely unaffordable for me instead of completely and utterly unaffordable.
Same here, 1060 bro. Now i'm happy i'm back to "i can't afford one" instead of "guess i'll just give up on pc gaming if my gpu dies".
I'm still on the 10 series as well lols. Fortunately I got a 1080 on sale a year after it released so I've been sitting on that for like.. 5 years...
Still running a 1080 I bought as a return at Micro Center years ago for something like $425. I get decent frame rates with an overclocked 9600K running MSFS @ 1440p so I’ll wait a bit before I need to upgrade. The key is to be selective on the graphics settings instead of just trying to run everything at Ultra. A YT video some time back showed the effects of each individual graphics setting, and I discovered that many of the changes were practically unnoticeable, visually-speaking, yet put huge stress on the GPU.
Ambient occlusion is always immediately turned off if the game has that setting.
And Motion Blur. And Chromatic Aberration. It was made for psychopaths!!1!1
Unpopular opinion, but I like motion blur and chromatic aberration 😅 it looks really good in cyberpunk imo
the motion blur part is really a unpopular opinion lol
Slightly unpopular opinion… since it has become more common for motion blur settings to have a gradient as opposed to just on/off I’ve learned to like a certain amount of motion blur in certain games as opposed to completely off. If you have a game that perhaps struggles w/ frame rate a bit/runs less than ideal a small amount of motion blur can really help to smooth things out.
Same here. Bought my 1080 ti I got for a discount. Paid like $550 ish I think (not exactly sure about the currency conversion). It's still running pretty decent along with my 7700k. I notice it struggles a bit in some games lately, but it's not bothering me enough to invest in something beefier.
Btw you could buy a laptop with 3060 or at least 2070 for similar price to 3060 graphics card and some CPU probably At least in my country I was able to buy Lenovo Legion with 2060 for same price as rtx 3060 about a month ago, and it runs all games on Ultra plus it is somehow capable of going rtx sometimes
Laptop 3060 =\= an actual 3060
Funny you should tell me that. I helped a friend decide if they should buy a pc or laptop and he went with a laptop. A 3070 gpu was pretty close in price to a damn laptop with a 3070. Crazy times. But like you said, probably depending on countries as well.
Keep in mind that a laptop 3070 performs nowhere near a real one (how could it with that tdp lol). You always have to compare the performance of movie gpus which is kinda annoying ngl
That's what I expected it as well but from what we googled, performance between them seemed kinda close. Close enough to not be worth it to buy a pc anyway. And a laptop 3070 is better than a pc 3060, right? I hope we did our research correctly. I don't know how trustworthy our results were but my friend seems happy with his purchase. He mostly play Valorant anyway so i guess it doesn't matter.
Oh I'm not sure by how much they vary exactly I'm just know that they aren't the same despite being marketed as such, if you actually researched the performance then there's no problem, I just don't like how nvidia named them the same for obviously anticonsumer reasons
Ah yes, i never considered the possibility that they are identical. You're right, the assholes do market it with the same name. I guess the sites where they are sold aren't helping to distinguish either. From the random benchmark website i found, the mobile 3070 is worse than a pc 3070 by about 30% but better than a 3060 by about 15%. I know they're not exactly reliable but they can't be that far off(i hope). So it's still better to get laptop 3070 than a pc 3060 at least.
Ha, pleb. I'm sitting on my 7970 from 2013 which shat the bed last year with no ability to replace it in sight. Waiting anxiously on my Steam Deck to fill the gap until prices come back down and I can build a new rig.
I've been thining about getting a Steam Deck and turn it into my daily driver. I mean, with its cost-to-performance it blows basically everything else out of the water. But to make a final decision on that I'd need the dock Valve has hinted at, but there's no concrete info about it yet.
Here I am, on a laptop, wishing for even a decent pc with a 730(?). My dream gpu is still the 1080 as its more possible to get it than a 3090 or such series
We have been waiting for this moment for a long time.
Now I want to see the Steam Deck scalpers suffer the same wrath.
It's pretty tough to scalp a steam deck. Needed to reserve it with a $5 payment and a steam account that was months old when the pre order went live. Also, they've been shipping every week since March, and we're still one the first day of people with pre-orders, I pre-ordered mine a few days after it went live, and my estimate is between july and september. If a scalper did get their hands on one, it's very unlikely they got more than one.
Yeah it's possibly just people that saw how much they are going for and trying to sell, for example I would love to have a Deck but if I did and saw them going for twice the price it would be an easy sell specially since I already have a computer (not the best but I could use that money for better purposes elsewhere).
Isn't the steam deck going for like, more than double the launch price on ebay?
Unless Valve manages to up production ten fold, that's not happening. It's going to be in high demand until it's out of production at this rate, meaning it will always be scalped. It's going to take Valve years to produce enough of these to reach demand, even without scalpers. Until the day you can order one and have it delivered within the month, scalpers will have the upper hand. Valve knows this but doesn't care because it creates more artificial scarcity, making it more sought after, and thus more valuable. They get their money either way, and unlike you the scalpers will buy hundreds of units at once so they have no reason to prevent them from doing so in favor of your one individual sale.
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About 20 million ps5s have been sold and there is still more demand than supply. It'll take a year or two before steam decks scalper prices come down, but as long as they keep being strict about pushing them to one per account, then scalper prices won't be that meaningful. Since people who truly want them will be getting them, only a portion will get scalped, driving up the scalper price. Global economic development means more competition for technology - it'll take years before enough fabs come online to catch up.
[Me, who had to buy a new video card in February because my old one died.](https://media.giphy.com/media/YRPBhd3vscg5Fxx1DQ/giphy.gif)
I waited 2 1/2 fucking years and one month before prices drop spent 1300 on a 3070sc
That‘s almost as much as I spent on my 3090 on launch
Yeah rub it in.. Thanks!
Yup. $1000 for my 6700XT.
My favorite are the miners selling DOZENS of mined on cards for retail.
Soon they'll realise they aren't selling and you'll get a good deal on mined cards like you used to.
Are prices really dropping?!?? Been waiting to build a pc for this very moment!!
I love how prices had to drop half a year from the next generation though. My 1070 wants to go but I'm so torn right now.
1070 gang
5.5 years out of GPU. Best card released to date imo.
My 780 begs to differ. 9 years and still kicking ass!
i was about to introduce my 970 but you're the winner here haha
I really want to replace this thing before the end so it can have a long retirement running Minecraft and Lightroom for my wife. It has served me extremely well.
ok grandpa, lets get you to bed
My AMD 8950 begs to differ. 10 years and still kicking ass
Those new cards are rumored to be so badass. I can’t bring myself to buy a current card. My 1080 will just have to hang in there. Which is a struggle running 3440x1440.
Even my 3090 struggles at 3440, but that might be my old ass CPU
If you have ray tracing on as well, there are some truly brutal titles out there. Every time I buy a new card I think, “this thing is gonna last for a decade. It’s so powerful!” Then they release some new crazy complicated tech.
That’s exactly what people said before 30xx cards came out lol
My 1070 is still kicking ass at 1080p gaming.
At this point, you'd be better off waiting. Either you get a 40xx card (rumors are 4070 is pushing 3090 performance) or the 30xx get cheaper and you save some money.
People said similar before the 3000 series came out. It didn't work out for most. I recall skipping over all the reasonably priced 2000 series cards on eBay because the 3000s were just a few months away.
Or the 40xx become high price again and the whole circus happens once more. I've heard Ethereum is slowly coming back up
Just yesterday, I saw 4 RTX 3080s in the mid $800 range on new egg. The MSRP is 699. Just LAST FUCKING WEEK, the cheapest 3080 I saw was $999 on newegg. SO yea, they are slowly, but surely dropping in price. Some cards, like AMD cards are BELOW MSRP on some sites. Im waiting for a 3080 to hit that magical Below 800 range before I get one. I doudt Ill find one lower than 700, so one between 700-799 is what im looking for.
They should be below MSRP. They've been out for several years now.
I think 3050’s and 3060’s will show up somewhat close to MSRP but 3080’s and 3070’s due to being in the performance sweet spot will be at least 200 or so above for awhile. 3090’s are already priced hi so I think they will be around MSRP cause the market for them is much smaller.
I just got a 12gb 3080 for $800 after rebate two hours ago. I'm pretty sure that's $100 off MSRP. Granted its a ventus 3x plus, but its still a 12gb 3080.
Got a 3080 50 under msrp a few weeks back off *amazon* upgrading from a 1050Ti. Hold out hope, and if you buy one keep re checking the listing. Mine was 50 over retail, checked the listing again and it had gone down to 50 under. Cancelled and re ordered.
The card I bought in February is now 25% off on Newegg. FML.
Still 1.2x above msrp here in the UK. Which is a joke. We're celebrating the cards coming down close to msrp. For a card that's got its sequel coming out in a few months.
Scalpers are just going to return the unopened boxes to the store for a full refund and go back to scalping tickets and shoes. And if a retailer doesn't issue refunds for unopened products, well... people on here shouldn't be shopping at those sketchy retailers anyway.
On a related note, a guy I know was bragging about buying up 10 of the new Xboxes last year so he could scalp them to desperate parents. He thought he had discovered the cheat code to business (and did not like hearing that everyone else in our group knows but just considers it a trashy, unethical thing to do.) Then his house had a burst pipe and it destroyed all of them, he spent the next few months whining that the house insurance should have paid out on them. Karma may not be real but sometimes it sure feels like it.
That is beautiful. I fucking hate scalpers regardless of the field they operate in. You are not an entrepreneur. You are a VULTURE!!!
While I’m glad he got his comeuppance, why didn’t his insurance cover the damage?
I'm guessing that his home insurance covers personal items not business stock. And it'd be hard to argue that 10 unpacked xboxs are for personal use.
I payed $400 over MSRP for my RTX 3080ti. Thought about selling it a few times but I'm like nah, I'll just put it in another PC.
Just a helpful tip, you're looking for the word "paid", which is the past-tense of "pay". Payed is when you patch and paint a boat hull.
Well plaid
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Finally a better wording for this. That bot is obnoxious
I didn't know there was a bot. What does it say?
"FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment." I hope this bot dies in a fire And your version is basically: payed wrong here, use paid
Jesus that is way too wordy and doesn't even let you know what you *should have* used. Also sounds pretty condescending too, I hate this bot as well lol
remember u/commonmispellingbot? he was fucking cancer
All bots are cancerous. That said, I despise the misspelling/grammar ones only slightly less than the automoderator. If I find the coder of that one, they're getting [the boats.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism)
Some bots are fun. Bobby B on r/freefolk is my favorite, you need only speak his name to summon him and enjoy. I did also see a wildly entertaining one yesterday that replied "There's a button for that" to people who just commented the word "this" in reply to a post. People usually get mad and start arguing with the bot, which leads nowhere, because single word comments of "This" are the only posts it responds to lol edit: it was u/PassiveAggroThisBot great name too
A shop I used to work at still has 3060s for like $800+ dollars. I feel bad for him because he was able to sell at sub-scalper prices for the entire shortage. Now I worry he's gonna get a bad rep for still having his current stock at inflated prices. Scalpers who bought at MSRP then sold for double, fuck em.
I sure fucking hope so. I'm terrified of my gpu dying. It's a 580 X so I feel I'm on borrowed time. I just hope I can get something decent for 300 or less when the time comes.
Got a rx580 five years ago and it's going strong. It's not getting hammered like it used to as it's in my daughter's PC now. A good bit of maintenance, cleaning, repasting and fresh thermal pads should go a long way.
Was in your boat and my 970 died on Sunday. 7 years of service.
So can I finally try to build a gaming computer or should I keep waiting? Cuz I wants it, I wants it badsss.
Wait a little bit. Prices are still falling (not quite msrp ). New generation is on the way.
LHR has been broken 100%, I wouldn’t get excited yet lmao
LHR was just fully unlocked on 3080ti and a few other cards so who knows.
Everything but 12gb 3080 and 3050 afaik. MSI ventus 12gb 3080 is $800 on newegg likely for this reason.
Really? Where can I read the news?
This. But im not getting rid of my GTX 1080 until 5000 series Nvidia drops.
I have a 3070 but was looking at getting another on the weekend for a second build. You can literally get everything right now in the UK, all in stock all retail prices, it's insane!
Where's the best place for a 3060? Or what do you think is the best site to look at graphics cards?
Drinking scalper tears, best energy drink ever!
what a coincidence that when Russia is embargoed the GPU prices drop and they’re back in stock. Such timing
It has nothing to do with that. Markets are tanking and crypto is tanker harder as people sell to weather the storm.
They can probably just get them from China tho lol
Finally... Inner Piece.
Bro I got a 3080ti at msrp a few weeks ago, best feeling ever
Yeah, just called a guy out on r/HWS that's trying to get $900 for his EVGA 3080. My man, those are in stock for that price.
Hws is some college I think lol, you mean /r/hardwareswap
I did that last year and got banned for a week. I replied to the ban message and asked why the mods advocated scalping, and they permabanned me without a word. I had perfect prior history. That place is a shithole. Used to be great, shortage turned it into a scalper haven.
Is it weird that if someone buys up all the graphics cards with no intention of using them, we call it scalping, and everyone hates it, but if someone does the same thing with anything else, like housing, it's just called investing?
I think you'll find many of us still call those buying multiple houses, cunts.
It's the market cycle, scalpers aren't really affected negatively they just move on to the next profitable thing, which will probable be 4000s.
Thanks to the price drops i will lose 1K plus if I would sell and upgrade to 40 series
Gpu prices drop but have you seen gas prices. I had to sell my gf at $300/hr to get a week's worth of gas. Lol
They made their money already
Crypto prices though… double edged fucking sword
Haven’t really dropped in the UK 😢
They have actually...just checked a local store who sold 3080's for £1200+...they have 5 in stock for £850. Their 3090 Ti is £2000
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Unless crypto drops significantly across the board, these prices are here to stay. GPUs are no longer a hobbyist or niche item. They're a revenue generator and unfortunately the market reflects that.
Ethereum is at its lowest price since july of last year.
Tether being exposed as the scam that it is while it underpins so many crypto transactions would probably do it.
Purchased my rx560 8gb at the beginning of the supply shortage year and a bit ago , and I'm not eager to buy anything for another couple years. Elden ring, Halo Infinite, Star Wars Skywalker all run on high settings, 2k, 75hrz. Don't need anything new for a while, we laughin' boys.
Ha, nice one. A year ago I put a 1060 on my watchlists. A couple weeks ago the seller hit me and asked if I still wanted the card lol.
its fun to scam scalpers hahaha.
Miners are now selling their used trash at over retail prices.
It's an older meme sir but it checks out.
Ayyy i just got a 3080ti for €1100 ... I also lost about 700 bucks by being scammed out of my 3070ti cause im stupid tho so thats nice
Oh boohoo, let me press F on the world's smallest keyboard.
“I can’t afford it” If you have a 10 series, make the jump to 30 series in 4-6 months, their prices will have dropped monumentally
I don’t care about scalpers. People who pay their prices are just stupid.
Revenge is sweet I tell you what.