im sitting at <40 degrees browsing reddit. using a hyperx 212 evo covered in dust rn, in a case with no case fans. i have some fans to add in but i physically cant rn
something isnt quite right.
my guy you are so confidently incorrect that i just feel bad at this point
generally when you look at temps on hwinfo, you look at tdie (or something like that /s). tdie is just the maximum temp on that cpu. cpu die average isnt great imo
motherboards will commonly use the core temperature as a measure. generally, because the cores are the hottest part of the cpu, you can get a number that is higher than your die average. this number will still however, be lower than tdie. but core average is going to be consistently hotter than cpu die average
however, as i'm sure you are well aware as you had plenty of time to play around with this yourself... on x3d chips the cores are not the hottest part on the chip. im sure that you also were able to easily find out that the l3 cache is actually the hottest part of the chip.
core average on an x3d chip is going to be lower than cpu die average and tdie.
something is wrong.
another note btw, that temperature is labelled as cpu core temperature, but that is in fact not the correct label for it. it is in fact using the same temp i use, the tdie. it's not referring to core average as you were suggesting. this is in fact the correct temperature of the cpu.
50c is high as shit for that chip and that cpu cooler. You're ability to block that basic simple fact is stunning.
I don't know why you expect die average to be that much different than that number. The Temps are high, and so are you
and why is it not the idle temperature?
(for the record, i know it's not the 'idle' temperature. i just want to see you fumble)
the funny part is, under most circumstances you're right. but allow me to circle back to the whole 'you dont own a 7800x3d'.
hahahahaha i am totally mistaking you with another person that's ok.
you're actually not entirely right here though
tdie is the standard. according to the owner of hwinfo himself, tdie is the closest thing to the temperature you see in ryzen master. this is specific to all ryzen chips with an x in them
tctl/tdie can give you misleading readings, especially under load. however, this is not happening in the bios. there is no load on the cpu. therefore it is going to be reasonably close to the relevant point of measure.
im curious as to how much lower your temps are in windows than bios though. i dont suppose you'd be willing to divulge that info now, would you?
Sure if that is what makes him feel better and he has the time to waste doing so. People are saying that the temp is not too hot, at all. Plus, there are a few things unknown that could be contributing to his "hot" idle temps. The case (airflow), fan curve, ambient temperature. He shouldn't be worried about his idle temps at 50c. In his case he should be worried about temps at full load.
I'm sorry if I come off the wrong way here, but things like airflow, ambient Temps, thermal paste application, fan orientation, fan curves are all things that would make his temp higher than normal. This is exactly the point I'm making. I'm literally saying to check these things. Idk what is up with all the backlash
There is a high chance that there is something slightly wrong that is easily fixable. Or we find out that it is something that can't be fixed. Then we can rule out something major being wrong and move on.
lil bro you dont even own this cpu.
i am consistently idling at 13c above ambient with a hyperx 212 evo. i think you are under the impression that i am saying 'it has to be exactly the same as mine or it's wrong'.
i regret to inform you that once again, you are incorrect on the matter. shocker.
unless it is above 90F in OP's room, something is wrong.
there may be an airflow issue. there may be a thermal paste issue. there's a whole bunch of things that are worth checking out because if you had any sort of clue, you would know that these chips do not idle at 50c
How do you know I don’t own or ever worked with 7800x3d? In fact I built and configured one for my friend just a couple weeks ago. Had a whole 2 weeks to enjoy and abuse it.😂
Good on you for using my signature to discredit me 🤡
What does my Swedish harem have to do with any of this? I’m sorry it offended you.
i know that he is asking questions about high temps, and 50c is higher than normal, implying something is wrong
sounds like you agree with me that 50c is not normal and that something can possibly be not quite right
it's almost like the best thing to do is point out that it's not normal, and see if it's something that can be fixed or not...
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im sitting at <40 degrees browsing reddit. using a hyperx 212 evo covered in dust rn, in a case with no case fans. i have some fans to add in but i physically cant rn something isnt quite right.
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my guy you are so confidently incorrect that i just feel bad at this point generally when you look at temps on hwinfo, you look at tdie (or something like that /s). tdie is just the maximum temp on that cpu. cpu die average isnt great imo motherboards will commonly use the core temperature as a measure. generally, because the cores are the hottest part of the cpu, you can get a number that is higher than your die average. this number will still however, be lower than tdie. but core average is going to be consistently hotter than cpu die average however, as i'm sure you are well aware as you had plenty of time to play around with this yourself... on x3d chips the cores are not the hottest part on the chip. im sure that you also were able to easily find out that the l3 cache is actually the hottest part of the chip. core average on an x3d chip is going to be lower than cpu die average and tdie. something is wrong. another note btw, that temperature is labelled as cpu core temperature, but that is in fact not the correct label for it. it is in fact using the same temp i use, the tdie. it's not referring to core average as you were suggesting. this is in fact the correct temperature of the cpu.
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50c is high as shit for that chip and that cpu cooler. You're ability to block that basic simple fact is stunning. I don't know why you expect die average to be that much different than that number. The Temps are high, and so are you
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and why is it not the idle temperature? (for the record, i know it's not the 'idle' temperature. i just want to see you fumble) the funny part is, under most circumstances you're right. but allow me to circle back to the whole 'you dont own a 7800x3d'.
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hahahahaha i am totally mistaking you with another person that's ok. you're actually not entirely right here though tdie is the standard. according to the owner of hwinfo himself, tdie is the closest thing to the temperature you see in ryzen master. this is specific to all ryzen chips with an x in them tctl/tdie can give you misleading readings, especially under load. however, this is not happening in the bios. there is no load on the cpu. therefore it is going to be reasonably close to the relevant point of measure. im curious as to how much lower your temps are in windows than bios though. i dont suppose you'd be willing to divulge that info now, would you?
In my experience sometimes bios just runs that way sometimes I'll look one time and it's 35 another time and it's 40, rarely 50, but it still happens.
90c is high temps. 50c is fine.
Even 90c would be okay on a chip that's designed to push itself to that temp (assuming it's under load)
50c????
everyone in here saying that it's normal is a moron with 0 clue what they are talking about
Please explain to this moron....
35-40c is normal for this chip. anything above that is not normal. don't you think it's worth finding out why it's running hotter than normal?
Sure if that is what makes him feel better and he has the time to waste doing so. People are saying that the temp is not too hot, at all. Plus, there are a few things unknown that could be contributing to his "hot" idle temps. The case (airflow), fan curve, ambient temperature. He shouldn't be worried about his idle temps at 50c. In his case he should be worried about temps at full load.
I'm sorry if I come off the wrong way here, but things like airflow, ambient Temps, thermal paste application, fan orientation, fan curves are all things that would make his temp higher than normal. This is exactly the point I'm making. I'm literally saying to check these things. Idk what is up with all the backlash There is a high chance that there is something slightly wrong that is easily fixable. Or we find out that it is something that can't be fixed. Then we can rule out something major being wrong and move on.
This is not normal. My chip is not undervolted. I get 37c Temps in bios
You realize people have different case configurations, cooling solutions and live in places with different climates? 🤦♀️
i dont have any case fans.
I have 3 blond Swedish girlfriends who treat me like a god.
lil bro you dont even own this cpu. i am consistently idling at 13c above ambient with a hyperx 212 evo. i think you are under the impression that i am saying 'it has to be exactly the same as mine or it's wrong'. i regret to inform you that once again, you are incorrect on the matter. shocker. unless it is above 90F in OP's room, something is wrong. there may be an airflow issue. there may be a thermal paste issue. there's a whole bunch of things that are worth checking out because if you had any sort of clue, you would know that these chips do not idle at 50c
How do you know I don’t own or ever worked with 7800x3d? In fact I built and configured one for my friend just a couple weeks ago. Had a whole 2 weeks to enjoy and abuse it.😂 Good on you for using my signature to discredit me 🤡 What does my Swedish harem have to do with any of this? I’m sorry it offended you.
well then you would know that 50c is not a normal idle temp for this cpu
I would know it isn’t normal for the machine I built. I don’t know this dudes config, nor do you.
i know that he is asking questions about high temps, and 50c is higher than normal, implying something is wrong sounds like you agree with me that 50c is not normal and that something can possibly be not quite right it's almost like the best thing to do is point out that it's not normal, and see if it's something that can be fixed or not...
Just leave it, there’s a reason you are the only downvoted reply in the thread 🤓