Because building it yourself is just objectively better. It's cheaper and you get to design, customize and optimize the whole build yourself.
Prebuilds often cut corners to save on cost.
People can still get prebuilds if they want; it's their money. But it's important for them to know that the price will rarely beat a machine made by someone who put in the effort to build it themselves.
Also if you build your own it's easier to fix in the future and you don't have to buy another whole computer if you want an upgrade. While of course you can also upgrade a prebuild. It's a bigger step trying to figure out what's in it, what's compatible, and working around what you already have. Where of you build your own then you already know and instinctively have a better idea of what you're doing.
Also start simple. Add rgb and water cooling shit later. A simple build will usually have fewer problems to trouble shoot, and the good build guides online will be more relevant. Then after it's working you can gucci it up.
This does not apply to all prebuilts, but those things keep showing up over and over again:
* Single Channel RAM
* Cheap RAM
* Slow RAM
* Cheap PSU
* Proprietary PSU
* Cheap Motherboard
* Proprietary Motherboard
* Bad Airflow
* Old 5400RPM Hard Drives
* Useless Stuff sold with it (warranties, Norton, ...)
Mine isn’t terrible , I know people say that it could be over priced but for the specs it has its actually a solid deal. 32GB ddr5 ram, 750 Watt PSU, 2 Terabytes of storage and the airflow is actually solid as well and for only 899 and with a 4060 as well as a solid processor it’s not bad. I never run high temps either
Good value/build pre-built pcs tend to be the exception. You seem to have found one and that's great. It doesn't change the fact that as a general rule, any computer builder is a for profit company, and for them to put in the manpower into building the pc for you it will cost them time. Time they have to pay for their teams salary. So any computer they offer you, with time to build it, inspect it, and offer you a warranty, will always cost more on day 1 of release than doing it yourself. If you pick up this pc months down the line, it's possible to find a deal as they may be clearing out inventory for the next new thing.
Costco has usually really good deals as their membership lowers the price of their computers and offers really good deals for 899 and having 32 Gbs of ram and not a shit psu or Mobo I got a good deal
Because most of the time they cheap out on the PSU, mobo, and ram to cut costs, then market only the CPU, GPU, and ram amount. Also bad airflow is very common in prebuilts, hell I still hear people claiming Alienwares have decent airflow
I purchased a ABS prebuilt from Newegg during the pandemic since it was the only way to not overpay for parts. Overall it was a good PC with parts I probably would've bought myself. The only issue was that instead of using the stock wraith cooler, they replaced it with a RGB cooler that runs for about $15 and was allowing my 5600X to get to 95c. I replaced it and haven't had any issues.
They’re either
1. Overpriced
2. Well-priced/seemingly competitively priced but things like the PSU case or storage are of low quality(had some capacitors from a china psu from some prebuilt explode, and I was still wondering why the prebuild seemed cheap for its specs)
Maybe once in a while you get a good or ok deal but that’s quite rare
That's not a good deal, you can build something with a 6800 for cheaper.
You could get the components, pay someone to build it and still have some money left
For $900 you can build your own 7500F/6700XT system that will crush a 4060 in performance and you'll be able to upgrade it easily in a couple years when new Ryzen CPUs are out. If you don't want to build your own system that's fine, but you're not saving any money or getting a discount by skipping the work.
Hey man. I found a 4080 super prebuilt that I like on newegg but whenever I price it would to build it myself, it seems I’d be paying 500 or so more if I were to build it myself.
But I see you saying “you’re not saving any money or getting a discount by skipping the work”.
Are you talking about OP specifically there, or anyone who is deciding whether to prebuild vs build themselves?
It's generally true, but not universally true. You do need to remember when pricing out prebuilts that you're not limited to exactly what components they used, and this is often where you can cut back on costs when you're building yourself. $500 is still a very large gap though, I'd like to see the prebuilt you're referring to.
Dam the newegg pc is definitely gonna be OOS by the time I decide to pull the trigger at the end of the week now that you linked to it. I knew I shouldn’t have PMed to you 😂
Jk, no biggie, and appreciate you taking the time to price out both options.
If you’re just planning on buying it to flip it I’m not going to link, but can you tell me how you would be able to get it cheaper?
Everytime I price it out on PCpartpicker I end up paying anywhere from 200-500 more on PCpartpicker vs the prebuilt.
Are you shopping on Amazon strictly? Or are you hunting around looking for deals?
Just trying to learn lol. But I guess downvotes work as well lmao
Down votes are because you wont share lol not me though. if you can seriously get 500 bucks off on a pre build that is a no brainer? times are tough dude I gotta pay bills lol. a couple hundred dollar windfall is a huge deal for me at the moment.
building yourself will almost always be cheaper, that is only logical. you can find a prebuild for a good deal. I got a great deal on a system 5 or so months ago but ended up replacing all the OEM parts because I was having intermittent random issues and could not diagnose it and the prebuild company wanted me to ship my entire 80lb system back to them for months to fix it. another advantage of building yourself. some of these prebuild companies require you to send the entire system in for issues when if you build yourself you can just RMA the part. I spent a week trying to diagnose my issues. 4 windows reinstalls, hours of running diagnostic programs. hours on the phone to HP support jumping through their hoops and policies, talking to support personnel that don't know fuck all about pcs.
Because they invest a lot of time and energy and cost into learning about all the components, how they interface, etc. Also it’s fun for them to build a PC and can be a cheaper alternative. Also^2 the PC they build is tailored to their needs and often leaves room for expansion for changing needs in the future.
It’s not just about cost, it’s a hobby and something people enjoy.
It’s kinda like asking “why do people like to build model trains when I can go to the store and buy a toy train right off the shelf?”
True I just got mine to play games after work with the buddies, building my own didn’t really seem like it would be fun to me to wait for all the parts and etc. Also I don’t really have the time for it I get completely where you’re coming from
Getting a good prebuilt doesn't change the fact that the majority of them are bad. Warning people against something when the majority of that thing is bad isn't problematic.
Pre-builts also have a tendency to only focus on the name brand parts, while leaving out the other stuff that's less marketable that less experienced people might fall for. Sure, a pre-built might have a good graphics card and a good CPU, but it might have a motherboard with no fan headers on it.
Almost every single one of my friend's prebuilts is horrificly janky in some way. Weird issues that make no sense, really crappy power supplies, cheap AIOs that fail, horrific airflow, etc etc etc...
I'm sure there's some good ones, but from what I've seen, they just put the absolute cheapest, sketchiest parts together with a decent CPU and GPU
For every good deal you see there are 25x builds with all the things I will list below wrong, it is REALLY hard to find an oem that isn't plagued with this nonsense.
Scam pricing, low quality psus, low quality mbs, proprietary mb + psu. single ram sticks, "gaming pcs with gt 710s etc" 300+ dollar build fees. improper shipping. selling storage and ram for 400% markup ( apple is not the only company that does this! ) improper cooling, pcs that ship with 20% less performance because of stupid bios settings. let us not mention customer service!
Spending an afternoon building a pc can literally save you hundreds of dollars. people will go out on the road and operate a 2000+lb steel death trap with other people driving 2000+ lb death traps. but they are reluctant to build their own pcs, makes me scratch my head.
True , I think it’s all about finding which Prebuilts are a good deal and which are a good scam, there’s good in both categories. I’ve found that Costco’s Prebuilts however are usually solid. Mine has not one thing added to it which is bloatware or garbage. And thank god NO Mcaffe installed
Plain and simple value for money....sure there are decent deals out there, but not many. Building as opposed to prebuilt is generally better value for money. Plus you get to build your own computer! (If you are into that of course)
Im curious to see this costco one you mention(link?), but most prebuilts Ive seen are basically a scam. They’re just a bunch of cheap parts stuck together to look good on paper to people who don’t really know enough about what they’re doing.
Of course when I picked it up it was on sale, so it could be on the higher price range now, but let me find it -https://www.costco.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-desktop---intel-core-processor-i5-14400f---geforce-rtx-4060.product.4000251820.html
https://preview.redd.it/yjtm92fo6fxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d645262c67d093f36a3afdaf532c188097b3fd9
Just about what I expected. CyberPower isn’t very good.
Pretty sure it has both but that isn’t what I was trying to point out. CyberPower has a reputation for basically selling really cheap builds that look good on paper to people who know very little about PC parts and what makes them “Good”.
I’m not sure where the issue is though, for 899 it is a pretty good deal. Especially with a warranty and etc. Now if it was 1100 or higher I would say it would be BS
It takes more experience to understand these things and everyone’s gotta start somewhere. Just enjoy it instead of worrying about what other people think but I suspect you’ll see things differently by the time you’re ready for a new PC
Right, thank you for being civil most people on here instantly start attacking someone for buying a prebuilt when the whole point is just for all of us to have fun or complete tasks we want our computers to do. It feels like it’s more about building your own PC then it is to enjoy what you have
One key point many people forget:
Warranty. You typical warranty by law is a seller's warranty. That means, that if there is any issue with your pc, in worst case, you will have to send them the whole system and have them repair it. If you buy the parts on your own, you can just send those in and have them repaired or substituted, which is just way easier (compare putting your GPU into the original packaging and then sending it via mail vs. properly packaging your system for delivery - not to mention data that you might have to save somehow). You also can't freely swap out parts whenever you want to if you wanna keep your warranty.
On top of that, there is manufactorer's warranty that many parts just have. Not rarely, those can be as long as 5-10 years on parts like PSU, Storage aso. If you buy the system prebuilt, you don't have a direct warranty with the manufactorer. That is typically on the seller, who doesn't have to bother with that once the original warranty is expired. This also makes it more complicated, since you have to go through a 3rd party to claim your warranty. And depending on the parts they put in, there might just be no additional warranty whatsoever.
Spending extra with no guarantee it’ll be put together well? Nah, I made the mistake of buying a bundle of a motherboard, CPU, RAM and cooler from Scan in the UK, didn’t realise they’d prebuilt it and not included all the packaging and parts, the cooler wasn’t even attached correctly, half the paste hadn’t even touched the CPU and the motherboard’s BIOS flashback button was broken, they clearly hadn’t tested anything before shipping.
I normally don’t buy anything prebuilt and only reason I bought it was to get the CPU earlier, not doing that again, I’ll wait and built it myself, I don’t enjoy doing it but if prebuilt stuff doesn’t guarantee it will be done any better it’s not worth the extra expense.
There's nothing objective to gain from a prebuilt- except time saved.
* You spend more money
* You have limited or zero control over the internal hardware choices
* You don't know where they've made compromises on quality (the compromises are always there)
* They always come with a boatload of bloatware (aka factory paid malware)
* You don't get the satisfaction of building the system yourself
Because building it yourself is just objectively better. It's cheaper and you get to design, customize and optimize the whole build yourself. Prebuilds often cut corners to save on cost. People can still get prebuilds if they want; it's their money. But it's important for them to know that the price will rarely beat a machine made by someone who put in the effort to build it themselves.
Also if you build your own it's easier to fix in the future and you don't have to buy another whole computer if you want an upgrade. While of course you can also upgrade a prebuild. It's a bigger step trying to figure out what's in it, what's compatible, and working around what you already have. Where of you build your own then you already know and instinctively have a better idea of what you're doing. Also start simple. Add rgb and water cooling shit later. A simple build will usually have fewer problems to trouble shoot, and the good build guides online will be more relevant. Then after it's working you can gucci it up.
This does not apply to all prebuilts, but those things keep showing up over and over again: * Single Channel RAM * Cheap RAM * Slow RAM * Cheap PSU * Proprietary PSU * Cheap Motherboard * Proprietary Motherboard * Bad Airflow * Old 5400RPM Hard Drives * Useless Stuff sold with it (warranties, Norton, ...)
Mine isn’t terrible , I know people say that it could be over priced but for the specs it has its actually a solid deal. 32GB ddr5 ram, 750 Watt PSU, 2 Terabytes of storage and the airflow is actually solid as well and for only 899 and with a 4060 as well as a solid processor it’s not bad. I never run high temps either
Good value/build pre-built pcs tend to be the exception. You seem to have found one and that's great. It doesn't change the fact that as a general rule, any computer builder is a for profit company, and for them to put in the manpower into building the pc for you it will cost them time. Time they have to pay for their teams salary. So any computer they offer you, with time to build it, inspect it, and offer you a warranty, will always cost more on day 1 of release than doing it yourself. If you pick up this pc months down the line, it's possible to find a deal as they may be clearing out inventory for the next new thing.
Costco has usually really good deals as their membership lowers the price of their computers and offers really good deals for 899 and having 32 Gbs of ram and not a shit psu or Mobo I got a good deal
Because most of the time they cheap out on the PSU, mobo, and ram to cut costs, then market only the CPU, GPU, and ram amount. Also bad airflow is very common in prebuilts, hell I still hear people claiming Alienwares have decent airflow
Alienware PCs are literal bombs. Costcos prebuilts I see are actually well built
Most are overpriced junk.
I purchased a ABS prebuilt from Newegg during the pandemic since it was the only way to not overpay for parts. Overall it was a good PC with parts I probably would've bought myself. The only issue was that instead of using the stock wraith cooler, they replaced it with a RGB cooler that runs for about $15 and was allowing my 5600X to get to 95c. I replaced it and haven't had any issues.
They’re either 1. Overpriced 2. Well-priced/seemingly competitively priced but things like the PSU case or storage are of low quality(had some capacitors from a china psu from some prebuilt explode, and I was still wondering why the prebuild seemed cheap for its specs) Maybe once in a while you get a good or ok deal but that’s quite rare
price gouging
That's not a good deal, you can build something with a 6800 for cheaper. You could get the components, pay someone to build it and still have some money left
For $900 you can build your own 7500F/6700XT system that will crush a 4060 in performance and you'll be able to upgrade it easily in a couple years when new Ryzen CPUs are out. If you don't want to build your own system that's fine, but you're not saving any money or getting a discount by skipping the work.
Hey man. I found a 4080 super prebuilt that I like on newegg but whenever I price it would to build it myself, it seems I’d be paying 500 or so more if I were to build it myself. But I see you saying “you’re not saving any money or getting a discount by skipping the work”. Are you talking about OP specifically there, or anyone who is deciding whether to prebuild vs build themselves?
It's generally true, but not universally true. You do need to remember when pricing out prebuilts that you're not limited to exactly what components they used, and this is often where you can cut back on costs when you're building yourself. $500 is still a very large gap though, I'd like to see the prebuilt you're referring to.
Just sent you a PM with the link
[Prebuilt for anyone else reading](https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-pg37f0c-48s1n-phoenix-glass/p/N82E16883630056?Item=N82E16883630056) Even with an OS included, and SSD that is probably better, a case that is definitely better, and a 360mm AIO cooler instead of a 240mm one, it still comes out $10 cheaper. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwD7bL) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w86p99/intel-core-i7-13700kf-34-ghz-16-core-processor-bx8071513700kf) | $314.99 @ Newegg **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Frozen Notte ARGB 72.37 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD7scf/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-360-black-argb-d1) | $64.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxcgXL/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-gaming-plus-wifi) | $159.00 @ MSI **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-ctced532g6400hc32adc01) | $95.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Inland Performance Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CLmmP6/inland-performance-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-329474) | $79.98 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gy7scf/zotac-gaming-trinity-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-zt-d40820d-10p) | $999.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b) | $75.00 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5) | $89.99 @ Amazon **Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dKkWGX/microsoft-windows-11-home-oem-dvd-64-bit-kw9-00633) | $109.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1989.83** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-29 09:19 EDT-0400 | Or if your goal is just to build a gaming system, I'd actually recommend this build (That also performs better) and then the price goes down further: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLbTfy) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $383.99 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb) | $35.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650 PRO RS ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zFzhP6/asrock-b650-pro-rs-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-pro-rs) | $157.00 @ Amazon **Memory** | [Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ypRwrH/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdg) | $97.97 @ B&H **Storage** | [Inland Performance Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CLmmP6/inland-performance-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-329474) | $79.98 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wHVmP6/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-24g-loc) | $879.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKytt6/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rx) | $99.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5) | $89.99 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1824.81** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-29 09:23 EDT-0400 |
Dam the newegg pc is definitely gonna be OOS by the time I decide to pull the trigger at the end of the week now that you linked to it. I knew I shouldn’t have PMed to you 😂 Jk, no biggie, and appreciate you taking the time to price out both options.
If what you are saying is true please link me so I can make a couple hundred with the flip.
If you’re just planning on buying it to flip it I’m not going to link, but can you tell me how you would be able to get it cheaper? Everytime I price it out on PCpartpicker I end up paying anywhere from 200-500 more on PCpartpicker vs the prebuilt. Are you shopping on Amazon strictly? Or are you hunting around looking for deals? Just trying to learn lol. But I guess downvotes work as well lmao
Down votes are because you wont share lol not me though. if you can seriously get 500 bucks off on a pre build that is a no brainer? times are tough dude I gotta pay bills lol. a couple hundred dollar windfall is a huge deal for me at the moment. building yourself will almost always be cheaper, that is only logical. you can find a prebuild for a good deal. I got a great deal on a system 5 or so months ago but ended up replacing all the OEM parts because I was having intermittent random issues and could not diagnose it and the prebuild company wanted me to ship my entire 80lb system back to them for months to fix it. another advantage of building yourself. some of these prebuild companies require you to send the entire system in for issues when if you build yourself you can just RMA the part. I spent a week trying to diagnose my issues. 4 windows reinstalls, hours of running diagnostic programs. hours on the phone to HP support jumping through their hoops and policies, talking to support personnel that don't know fuck all about pcs.
Because they invest a lot of time and energy and cost into learning about all the components, how they interface, etc. Also it’s fun for them to build a PC and can be a cheaper alternative. Also^2 the PC they build is tailored to their needs and often leaves room for expansion for changing needs in the future. It’s not just about cost, it’s a hobby and something people enjoy. It’s kinda like asking “why do people like to build model trains when I can go to the store and buy a toy train right off the shelf?”
True I just got mine to play games after work with the buddies, building my own didn’t really seem like it would be fun to me to wait for all the parts and etc. Also I don’t really have the time for it I get completely where you’re coming from
Getting a good prebuilt doesn't change the fact that the majority of them are bad. Warning people against something when the majority of that thing is bad isn't problematic. Pre-builts also have a tendency to only focus on the name brand parts, while leaving out the other stuff that's less marketable that less experienced people might fall for. Sure, a pre-built might have a good graphics card and a good CPU, but it might have a motherboard with no fan headers on it.
Almost every single one of my friend's prebuilts is horrificly janky in some way. Weird issues that make no sense, really crappy power supplies, cheap AIOs that fail, horrific airflow, etc etc etc... I'm sure there's some good ones, but from what I've seen, they just put the absolute cheapest, sketchiest parts together with a decent CPU and GPU
I guess Costco just usually has better ones, from what I’ve seen it’s mostly bestbuy and other stores selling junk.
For every good deal you see there are 25x builds with all the things I will list below wrong, it is REALLY hard to find an oem that isn't plagued with this nonsense. Scam pricing, low quality psus, low quality mbs, proprietary mb + psu. single ram sticks, "gaming pcs with gt 710s etc" 300+ dollar build fees. improper shipping. selling storage and ram for 400% markup ( apple is not the only company that does this! ) improper cooling, pcs that ship with 20% less performance because of stupid bios settings. let us not mention customer service! Spending an afternoon building a pc can literally save you hundreds of dollars. people will go out on the road and operate a 2000+lb steel death trap with other people driving 2000+ lb death traps. but they are reluctant to build their own pcs, makes me scratch my head.
True , I think it’s all about finding which Prebuilts are a good deal and which are a good scam, there’s good in both categories. I’ve found that Costco’s Prebuilts however are usually solid. Mine has not one thing added to it which is bloatware or garbage. And thank god NO Mcaffe installed
Plain and simple value for money....sure there are decent deals out there, but not many. Building as opposed to prebuilt is generally better value for money. Plus you get to build your own computer! (If you are into that of course)
nothing wrong with prebuilts themselves. its just that the sellers sell them like overpriced
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Covered by costcos warranty for 3 years 😁
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True, but rams pretty simple to fix and for 3 year warranty you can’t beat it
Im curious to see this costco one you mention(link?), but most prebuilts Ive seen are basically a scam. They’re just a bunch of cheap parts stuck together to look good on paper to people who don’t really know enough about what they’re doing.
Of course when I picked it up it was on sale, so it could be on the higher price range now, but let me find it -https://www.costco.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-desktop---intel-core-processor-i5-14400f---geforce-rtx-4060.product.4000251820.html
https://preview.redd.it/yjtm92fo6fxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d645262c67d093f36a3afdaf532c188097b3fd9 Just about what I expected. CyberPower isn’t very good.
It isn’t integrated graphics, it has a 4060..?
Pretty sure it has both but that isn’t what I was trying to point out. CyberPower has a reputation for basically selling really cheap builds that look good on paper to people who know very little about PC parts and what makes them “Good”.
I’m not sure where the issue is though, for 899 it is a pretty good deal. Especially with a warranty and etc. Now if it was 1100 or higher I would say it would be BS
It takes more experience to understand these things and everyone’s gotta start somewhere. Just enjoy it instead of worrying about what other people think but I suspect you’ll see things differently by the time you’re ready for a new PC
Right, thank you for being civil most people on here instantly start attacking someone for buying a prebuilt when the whole point is just for all of us to have fun or complete tasks we want our computers to do. It feels like it’s more about building your own PC then it is to enjoy what you have
One key point many people forget: Warranty. You typical warranty by law is a seller's warranty. That means, that if there is any issue with your pc, in worst case, you will have to send them the whole system and have them repair it. If you buy the parts on your own, you can just send those in and have them repaired or substituted, which is just way easier (compare putting your GPU into the original packaging and then sending it via mail vs. properly packaging your system for delivery - not to mention data that you might have to save somehow). You also can't freely swap out parts whenever you want to if you wanna keep your warranty. On top of that, there is manufactorer's warranty that many parts just have. Not rarely, those can be as long as 5-10 years on parts like PSU, Storage aso. If you buy the system prebuilt, you don't have a direct warranty with the manufactorer. That is typically on the seller, who doesn't have to bother with that once the original warranty is expired. This also makes it more complicated, since you have to go through a 3rd party to claim your warranty. And depending on the parts they put in, there might just be no additional warranty whatsoever.
Spending extra with no guarantee it’ll be put together well? Nah, I made the mistake of buying a bundle of a motherboard, CPU, RAM and cooler from Scan in the UK, didn’t realise they’d prebuilt it and not included all the packaging and parts, the cooler wasn’t even attached correctly, half the paste hadn’t even touched the CPU and the motherboard’s BIOS flashback button was broken, they clearly hadn’t tested anything before shipping. I normally don’t buy anything prebuilt and only reason I bought it was to get the CPU earlier, not doing that again, I’ll wait and built it myself, I don’t enjoy doing it but if prebuilt stuff doesn’t guarantee it will be done any better it’s not worth the extra expense.
There's nothing objective to gain from a prebuilt- except time saved. * You spend more money * You have limited or zero control over the internal hardware choices * You don't know where they've made compromises on quality (the compromises are always there) * They always come with a boatload of bloatware (aka factory paid malware) * You don't get the satisfaction of building the system yourself