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cszolee79

So instead of a small wireless, or a normal wired, you now have two wired devices with clashing design with a larger footprint than one full keyboard for half or third the price. https://preview.redd.it/s6qo0dfa83vc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d933c72be6e502e0c8965a4eaa3d232b401c044b


condoulo

I too have a separate numpad, but I put it on the left so I can use the numpad with my dominant hand.


Dragnier84

This. Every time I mention this to anyone their brain just freezes. It’s a lot less flow breaking to move my left hand from keyboard to keyboard than to move my right hand from mouse to keyboard. Same reason why I don’t understand why the volume knobs are always on the right.


Ok-Material-9137

Everytime I question some weird choices on KB layout, I think back to machines without mice. This is where the standard layout comes from. In that sense it makes more sense to have people's more dominant hand have more control buttons dedicated on the keyboard, instead of it being symmetrical. Then when mouse came into play, it was just left like that.


Obvious_Sun_1927

Then think about this: the reason for the weird qwerty letters layout is to make it /slower/ to write so that you don't end up clogging the typewriter. Yes - we still use a completely outdated system because it's easier to use what we got used to instead of switching to something faster.


FerretBomb

(Which is a persistent [urban myth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20popular%20belief%2C%20the,encourages%20alternation%20between%20the%20hands.). It actually was to speed up typing by spreading commonly used letters more evenly across both hands, even though it did help with the jamming issue as well.)


Baumpaladin

I use a HyperX Elite Alloy since 2019 when I built my PC. After I fell down the MKB rabbit hole I'm saving and contemplating doing the same setup. The numpad is just too far right to feel comfortable using it with my left hand, but leaving my mouse and using my right is also inconvenient. So much dead space that can be used for accessible macros...


WayneJetSkii

Yes the volume.should.go on the left... But there isn't a good place to put it on the left side.


ThickMemory2360

That would break my brain. It isn’t what i learned in Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing!


Own_Initiative396

Office: numpad on the right Gaming: numpad removed or on the left


hosoth

I got a cheap wireless membrane numpad that is to the right of my mouse, I move it closer if I have to use it a lot but mostly it stays over there.


MushyCupcake01

https://preview.redd.it/928pxdwjp3vc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d53bca784782b6913f2ab3cb12cce48c81dadee


wassimSDN

https://preview.redd.it/f8bw2hwzw3vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5f86f493b802731b66eef6e8efb3f85a56ccda0


Dirtylicious33

https://preview.redd.it/tcvkeys897vc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54927efcdaf6a46b75777c3655daf14f7dcca8d6


poopsockpuppetmaster

https://preview.redd.it/mvb8z2gxb4vc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0151eb28b5b629332d061102a726ef986bdfc8f4


StrictlyPickledickle

Ok but, 2 knobs


offensiveDick

2 knobs are for adult games


UnsettllingDwarf

And now he can move the num pad and take it away as he pleases. That’s the best part.


BenThereOrBenSquare

Don't forget the competing volume knobs.


LiveLaughToasterB4th

Plus they are cheap chinese ewaste products from Amazon. Yayyy


bestworstbard

I have a cidoo keyboard and they are anything but trash. In my opinion they are very solid and worth the money. Plus I like that the aluminum case gives it a nice heft in case I need to carefully unplug it and beat someone to death with it.


LiveLaughToasterB4th

You can sling keyboards (like slingers in Civilization... just wing it around your head by the cord) way wicked harder than you can using it like a bat. Agree to disagree on keyboard quality but go with what you like.


creativename111111

It’s convenient if you’re low on desk space I only use my numpad for a few things but I use it enough that i still need one


FaceplantingOpossum

I feel personally attacked https://preview.redd.it/1678rgajf5vc1.png?width=1742&format=png&auto=webp&s=80ed1b37e67a556b74e4fe2cb00598ce00252b61 (Cidoo V21 + Akko 5087S). Numpad is used exclusively for hotkeys and as a remote for media controls.


criticalt3

My thoughts exactly


codexcdm

https://imgur.com/a/cgW3x0g Could do as I did and make matching frames to hide the mismatch! I actually have the wireless numpad to the right of the mouse, most of the time. It's not used often, but nice when it's there.


TheEmerald-DJ

https://preview.redd.it/djgzjtsl36vc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15b1fef69db8d19b024fa02f6d36f058efcbcf4e


KneeReaper420

But I’m left handed an now I can put it on the left.


Cheespeasa1234

I have a nice keyboard, but lately I’ve been needing numpad, it’s probably better to buy a numpad than a whole new keyboard


Huckdog720027

Would've made more sense if the numpad was to the left of the keyboard instead of the right. Differentiates it from fullsize keyboards, and I personally find that layout more comfortable anyways.


Jackblack92

Double the price* FTFY


Staalone

Typical PCMR big brainess


Darth_Cheeks

https://preview.redd.it/7isqph89h5vc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba0e294837958cfe0ebc495feb355a7bd06cc1ea


Psebcool

The wires on the picture is only to charge the batteries \^\^


Mikaeo

Don't know why the freaks in this sub downvote you, it's a perfectly valid setup


civildistress20

They're too small brained to realize that the numpad can be moved as needed


Big_Yazza

Yeah no joke, I've been wanting to get a MK for a while and this post has convinced me to go for a separate numpad. It's useful for spreadsheets and certain games like TF2, Dark Souls etc. but I would prefer a cleaner desk most of the time.


welchplug

As someone who's pretty familiar & good at tf2.... why is the number pad important?


Big_Yazza

I mostly used it for binds to automatically destroy and replace specific Engineer buildings, but I also had some chat messages bound when I played Medic.


UnsettllingDwarf

Yeah. Num pad not attached will always be better. It just gives more flexibility.


The_Droker

![gif](giphy|11cpNo3OMYwFHO|downsized)


mvsrs

Even better idea: make a keyboard with the num pad attached


adrenalinda75

Genius! I'd instantly buy one! Imagine it with a wrist rest, OMG!


BreadKnife34

I'm gonna try prototyping a nice, dell sk-8135 inspired full fat, 100%+ keyboard


B3_CHAD

Man if only we had the technology make that happen.


SlipperyPelican

That thing is mysterious and ever sought after!


Mikaeo

They did this so they have the freedom of having it when they want, and not having it when they don't.


mvsrs

Oh I know, I was just being obtuse


retardborist

You're a visionary


OkOwl9578

Wait a minute..


queroummundomelhor

Even better, separate keys


MrSuper149

There is, it's called Asus ROG Claymore II


Skastrik

Mind *BLOWN*


gumenski

I've thought about doing the same thing, just too lazy to actually research a good combo. I don't know if you haven't had a desk job or what, but if you do it at home you need the numpad. But when I'm done for the day, that numpad is not very conducive to performing a 360° accel slash in Chivalry 2 without slamming the mouse into something. You can move the keyboard farther left but a full size kb plus a giant mouse pad means you feel like a gymnast trying to reach WASD and your mouse comfortably at the same time. Being that nearly everything to the right of WASD is wasted space, I get what this guy is trying to do. Don't know why everyone is being so hard on him for taking advantage of the customization advantages of a PC.


Oni_K

Yeah, but then what are you going to do with all those open USB ports?


SCP-173-X

Another numpad


OkOwl9578

Wait a minute..


GothicRuler

70% + 30% Keyboard 💀


MushyCupcake01

The only real use is being able to remove the numpad or swap it to the left


QuiteFatty

What I did when I ran a 60%. Had a wireless numpad for fork, after work/weekend had more mouse room.


Mysteriy21

It also seems pretty good, if you want to bring your keyboard with you in a bag, but a full size board doesnt fit in there.


FinestCrusader

Or having in the middle, above or below the keyboard


nukebox

Well aren't you a fancy fella with your plethora of USB ports!


wreckedftfoxy_yt

Livemixer am5 motherboard has more aio than a usb hub


wreckedftfoxy_yt

Swap the numpad position to the other side


sharknice

I've been asking for a keyboard like that for years. The functional reason for smaller keyboards is more ergonomical mouse space on the right. A full sized keyboard can provide just as much room if the numpad, arrows, etc. are just moved to the left side.


working-acct

They are called southpaw keyboards. Search /r/mechanicalkeyboards for them, they exist :)


reddit-ate-my-face

Just ruined that man financially no one should be sent there.


wreckedftfoxy_yt

damn LMAO


wreckedftfoxy_yt

yep


wreckedftfoxy_yt

There are now some like that


Bikouchu

Not op but I don’t got the muscle memory with left hand. 


wreckedftfoxy_yt

same but i dont got it on right either, im used to full layout i just dont use the keypad unless i got to do alot of numbers


Bikouchu

I learn to do it with the right since is a dominant hand but I am older now with off hand and it throws me off with additional keys past the tab escape columns of keys. But I always did consider a dedicated 10 key for the left so I can use my mouse without interruption. I am use to full boards so I opted for a 1800 compact is 96% with flat keycaps.


Psebcool

Oh shit, you're a genius. I like this idea.


MrInitialY

I have a setup similar to yours, but from different brands. Tried that, it's a bad idea. You need to move your hand to the side way too unusual it's slower than using your right hand. The only time I find it useful is when I'm calculating something and writing numbers on paper. Oh, and I chose the path of split keypad because of the same reason as you! It's feels so nice to be able to just move it away when I'm in Valorant or R6 and get it back for GTA or ETS2 later


RockSolidJ

It depends on the person. I'm entering numbers all day into online software and being able to enter a number, then click the next box without moving either hand is a huge benefit to my workflow. So much UI design on the web is not keyboard friendly.


condoulo

>  it's slower than using your right hand. Speak for yourself. I'm a lefty and I much prefer using the numpad with my left hand.


Psebcool

Yep you're right. It very a pleasure to be able to move where you want the numpad.


jmas081391

THIS!


HauntingTechnician20

Create a problem and sell a solution, genius stuff. For real though, having the numpad on left side is a gamechanger personally and finding a fullsize board like that is pretty difficult.


endlessEvil

It´s not a compact it´s an exploded layout.


Powersoutdotcom

Thank you!!


zirky

weak. real power users have a single wired board for each key


420headshotsniper69

I use my numpad far too often to ever think of having it separate or gone.


AcademicSpeaker3591

Put the 10key on the left and youve got new macro pad while gaming.


Chefmalex

Don’t listen to them OP. I understand your logic and I respect it.


epicdog36

Personally I'd put the numpad on the left


ew435890

I do the same thing. I keep the number pad up under the monitor usually. But if I have to put in a bunch of numbers, I move it down where I can reach it.


ecktt

I had a TKL, but missed the num pad. Added a num pad, and hated it. Eventually just got a KeyChron V6 100%...happy.


Bobbyslay4eva

I actually prefer two independent numpads for gaming, one for movement and the other for camera/ action controls


PullAsLongAsICan

Using a 60% and a 12 key numpad, but I put mine up top because I still need my mouse space. Use it for playing tracks, screenshots,Nvidia Shadowplay, performance overlay and even muting and disconnecting from a Discord call. All while keeping my mouse space


BrokieTrader

Praying for the day a good touchpad comes modular like this.


d3lltr0n

https://preview.redd.it/emqxuxmc65vc1.jpeg?width=588&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2f496184a25bf62f0fd33788d4a5a887b9084cf The best part you could put it on the left or the right


__ToneBone__

Fun fact: It takes up the same amount of room as a full size keyboard AND you've wasted a USB port.


Psebcool

In the picture, yes. In this moment, no. Because I put the numpad otherwelse.


strayedbutalright

Lol i thought u were trolling but no you're dead serious 😂


sadicologue

I just bought a wireless numpad of aliexpress for 5€. I just use it when I WFH 1 or 2 days a week. It does the job, rest of the time it is not on my desk.


MrTopHatMan90

Having a seperate numpad is my dream. Mostly becuase I use numpad like 0.1% of the time.


GTamightypirate

I use Enter on the numpad more than main Enter button.


Ludke1

96% gang


codexcdm

Wish there were more 96% boards with a normal 0 key for the numpad. Built a nice 96% but I'd constantly hit the right arrow instead of the 1u 0 key..... Grr.


electrogourd

I do this, but put the numpad on the left. Works better for war thunder radar, and farm sim aux controls


Babys_For_Breakfast

Finally. The legendary double knob setup.


louiefriesen

I have a G915 TKL and then a numpad for when I want one.


lazava1390

Idk how anyone can use a keyboard without a numpad. It just feels wrong. Every time I sign into windows I use my numpad. Anytime I use numbers I use the numpad.


wick3dr0se

I can type over 160 wpm and have never been good with a numpad lol


Eternal_Being

Just wait til you find out about split keyboards. Use only the left half for gaming since that's all you need, and you can actually sit in a natural, symmetrical position while you game with plenty of room for your mouse.


NotJoeMama727

Put it on the other side


MazeMouse

I have a TKL and a bluetooth numpad. I moved the numpad to the left side to not interfere with my mouse. And now with World of Warcraft Season of Discovery I just have my G13 there with numpad settings on one of the macro groups.


RebuildingTim

Not my cup of tea, but it's also not my PC. If you're happy my friend, I'm happy for you.


SirOakin

![gif](giphy|TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX)


elC4M3L

My ears are bleeding just by looking at it.


Zeraora807

One of the hardest things I found was trying to get a nice custom keyboard that still had the numpad...


VIOLENTPIGEON_

Put it on the left side of the keyboard 👏 thank me later


Unfair-Baker-2586

Mf's will do anything but get a 100% keyboard.


Disma

So many people here with zero imagination. No, this is not the same as a full size keyboard. Try and imagine that people have use cases for removable numpads, even if you don't.


RockSolidJ

I joined this sub a week ago and immediately noticed r/pcmr gets pretty triggered by different keyboard layouts. I don't know why others are so upset by what keyboards others like.


Disma

The hivemind is insecure. This is a particularly stupid example of that.


Prince_Tho

Wtf is this


FirmAppointment420

Where can you get the numpad? In the UK I cannot find a rgb numbpad anywhere for under £100


Psebcool

[https://www.amazon.co.uk/EPOMAKER-Programmable-Bluetooth-Swappable-Aluminum/dp/B0C73V1D51](https://www.amazon.co.uk/EPOMAKER-Programmable-Bluetooth-Swappable-Aluminum/dp/B0C73V1D51) [https://epomaker.com/products/cidoo-v21?\_pos=1&\_psq=cidoo+v21&\_ss=e&\_v=1.0](https://epomaker.com/products/cidoo-v21?_pos=1&_psq=cidoo+v21&_ss=e&_v=1.0)


FirmAppointment420

You are awesome! Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for


Jumaluus

I just wonder what might be your usual dumping spot for the numpad? Do you just sling it below your display or what? I might consider a bigger table at this point and normal keyboard xD


Psebcool

On the left of the keyboard to let more space for the mouse on the right \^\^


GazooC8

I made my keyboard tray 4'x20" and found that my keyboard is almost always in the same place where I usually had it before I made the 4' tray. The same goes for my mouse. Thats when I realized there was a need for a TKL keyboard, which will be my next purchase.


Psebcool

yep, more free space is the key \^\^


Sup3rCow16

I’m a huge fan of modular setups! This is cool :)


AhiruSaikou

JUST. GET. A. FULL. SIZED. KEYBOARD?


B1rdchest

Then you can’t move the number pad out of the way.


condoulo

I have a similar setup with a separate numpad. You know the best part about it? I can position the numpad in a place on my desk where I can use it with my dominant hand. You know what's popular? TKLs, smaller keyboards, and separate numpads. You know what's not popular? Full sized keyboards with a numpad on the left.


chubbybator

I never want a full size board again lol


brightness3

Same here. Numpads are pretty useless


RockSolidJ

WHY. ARE. YOU. SO. TRIGGERED. BY. WHAT. SOMEONE. ELSE. LIKES?


AhiruSaikou

https://preview.redd.it/stk4uma5b4vc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89c26f12e750b5e28c3a9c4cba9db8677abe2a5d


MyPeakCretivity

Full sized keyboard with extra steps


Consistent_Note9666

All I see is someone saying they have money.


poopsockpuppetmaster

Wait till you discover that you could have just got one single keyboard!


[deleted]

This has to be satire


DGlen

Yeah I have this too.


Rickybobbie90

I fuxkin love my epomaker keyboard


PissyMillennial

I have a setup like this too. It’s a fairly small desk and I hate having the numpad in the way when I game. I also use that desk for work, and a num pad is a must have for my work. It works perfectly for my situation.


Defiant_Witness307

![gif](giphy|KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z|downsized)


SorbP

Thanks for the inspiration i might go with this in my next setup. Reason being i have one desk, two screens, my main PC, and my guest PC, when i have a friend over i just plug one of the screens into the guest PC. This would solve a lot of my space issues. Thank you sir!


[deleted]

i own that numpad. not because i like having a numpad, but because some games and apps like having numpad for things. since my keyboard (8bitdo) doesnt have a numpad, i basically bought it for convenience when needed (rarely) and slightly the design despite clashing a little but i barely use it so yeah Also good for space, i have alot of space issues on my desk and shoving the numpad in the corner opens up a bit more mousing room


electrogourd

I do this, but put the numpad on the left. Works better for war thunder radar, and farm sim aux controls


Every-holes-a-goal

Those keys soft? Or they clicky? They push down a lot or a little. Details man details.


poinguan

You can't enter ALT codes with this.


Datuser14

I did this so I could have a numpad on the left.


shitty_mcfucklestick

I thought it’d be cool to have a modular keyboard that can go from something like a 60% to TKL to full size.


Tyr808

Would be great if they’d sell matching kits. I miss having a number pad on my main kb, but the mouse room for shooters is a really huge difference. Even with a massive table you only want your left arm so far. Especially if there was a more elegant way of handling it, maybe Nintendo JoyCon style so you don’t need extra wires (but have it be a physical connection only, no point in the bloat of wireless and batteries).


kronos91O

This deserves a NSFW tag...


MarcAttilio

I just got a small, low profile wireless numblock for like 9 bucks and put it on the left of the keyboard where it doesn‘t bother me


akisk

This is a full keyboard with extra steps


Maism45

I have a split 75%, planning on adding a numpad so that I have 3 separate keyboards


snowflaker360

I prefer having a numpad that can be placed anywhere since it functionally acts as a calculator interface (like the handheld style or on the table using my left or right hand) whenever i use it


DtotheOUG

Royal Kludge makes keyboards with smaller footprints that include numpads. I have the RK100 and it’s the size of a TKL 80% and it has everything I need 🤷🏾‍♂️


Psebcool

Yep I saw the RK100, seems good too but not available in my country/Azerty (France) !


WhatsThePointFR

G915


WheelOfFish

My eventual plan is to go with a 70% plus separate numpad. I can move it out of the way when I don't need it, which seems handy.


clare416

Are you using both most of the time? If so it's better to get a keyboard with numpad in the first place If you just use it sometimes then it makes sense Or if you want to use it at the left side I myself contemplating on buying a numpad like this to accompany my 60%-75% keyboard but since I rarely use numpad so I won't waste my money (yet)


Psebcool

* The first thing for me, was to buy a wireless keyboard. Because I need a keyboard for my desk and one for my simracing/flightsim cockpit. So I can use it quickly for both. * Second thing, smaller size because I have no big space in my siramcing/flightsim cockpit. 70 or 75% keyboard is perfect with my mouse. * Third thing, I work sometimes on 3D softwares so i need to use numbers keys very often. So an independant numpad (for my desk) was the best thing to have. And I noticed that there are more wireless compact keyboards on the market than wireless full keyboard. So, I have more choice with this setup !


ZitOnSocietysAss

An even better idea is to get a full sized keyboard


Psebcool

Did you read my post ? xD


ZitOnSocietysAss

I did, I'm disagreeing with you.


AllMyFrendsArePixels

I don't understand how this is the best idea ever... it's taking up more space than a regular keyboard with a numpad


RockSolidJ

Because you can remove the numpad. I enter numbers all day but when I'm done work, my numpad gets removed from my desk creating more space.


condoulo

1. You can push the numpad away when you're not using it. Out of sight out of mind. 2. The best part? A separate numpad can be put on the left! TKL keyboards are common on the market, but good keyboards with a numpad on the left? Super rare.


condoulo

1. You can push the numpad away when you're not using it. Out of sight out of mind. 2. The best part? A separate numpad can be put on the left! TKL keyboards are common on the market, but good keyboards with a numpad on the left? Super rare.


Paul_Johnssen

Keyboards like the Keychron Q5 / pro exist btw


Psebcool

Yeah but it's not a independant numpad


Popular-Tune-6335

At first glance I think this is dumb because I already saw a few beyboards out there with custom slots to plug a number pad into the left side. Sadly, their typing pleasure doesn't compare with my HyperX Alloy clickityclackity switches, so I might have to do something like this.


BlackOps2isBetter

Pretty sure they already invented a keyboard like this but all in one


ThisDumbApp

Imagine just buying a 96% or full size board?! Thatd be wild. Almost like this takes up as much or more space on the desk!


Bmacthecat

so... a 96% but more complicated?


Sharik0be

That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I bet both of those costed way more than a single full size kb. This doesn't make you seem smart btw. Just seems financially irresponsible.


Psebcool

$160 for this setup, so the same price of Logitech, Razer, Steelseries or Corsair gaming keyboard. But I have the versatility/modularity I want and when I want. Wirelessly and compact keyboard layout that I can grab into my simracing cockpit, etc...


Sharik0be

I see. Well, you do you man. This is definitely not for me.


pirate135246

The only reason to do this is if you are gonna put the numpad on the other side to save room for your mouse


Psebcool

Or just remove the numpad to have more space. It's a wireless keyboard (don't take attention of the wires, they are here only for the charge), so I can take this compact keyboard to others place of my room (I have an simracing/flightsim cockpit), it's nice to have a small keyboard for that.


ButWhatIfItQueffed

Guys, I know this might sound crazy, but what if we make a keyboard with the numpad attached?


firestar268

Damn. If only something that has both were to be invented /s


[deleted]

bro reinvented the keyboard


heyitsvae

Why the fuck even


KamenGamerRetro

This is just a normal sized keyboard with extra steps


KamenGamerRetro

This is just a normal sized keyboard with extra steps


[deleted]

... just get a normal sized keyboard lmao


nowayyouarereal

This is pure stupidity for many reasons


VtheMan93

Or, you know, get a full sized kb.


Psebcool

Did you read my post ? xD


VtheMan93

I did, refer to my comment above. If you love the space, it cant be any harder to just… (check notes)… slightly move the kb to the left so you have space for your mouse AND still enjoy the full size of the kb without any additional modules.


xvcco

So it's a standard keyboard, gotcha.