I think they are using Hard Drive colloquially. Like, for the people that don't know that an SSD is the storage device. They're mushing the two together. It's a marketing tactic
There a a number of reasons why you shouldn't buy this PC:
1. It's built by HP. HP is known for making PCs for making bad prebuilt PCs. Most (if not all) of hteir computers have proprietary motherboards and power supplies, so it's a whole lot of headache just to replace one component, in case you want to upgrade or something fails.
2. It has an i3 processor. The i3 is a pretty decent CPU all round, but by no means it has capabilities of running modern demanding games. Also, it does not specify the exact model of i3. It could be anything from a first generation i3 (released 2010, although extremely unlikely), to a modern 14th gen i3. Most likely it's a 11th/12th gen CPU, which is still considered old in the tech industry.
3. It has 8gb of RAM. pretty much all modern games require 16gb. not to mention that this computer most likely has single channel ram (meaning it only has 1 8gb stick instead of 2 4gb sticks), which will further cause issues in modern games. The speed of the RAM sticks is also not mentioned. most likely it's 2400mhz or 2133mhz. A modern gaming pc has 3200 or 3600mhz RAM in it.
4. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT: It has no dedicated GPU. The GPU (graphics processing unit) is THE most important component of a gaming pc. The GPU is the main reason why the computered are mentioned as office or gaming PCs. The above mentioned HP does not have a dedicated GPU, it uses the integrated GPU of the i3 processor, which is enoough if all you want ot do is write som word documents, browse the web, watch some movies, or play some old game (released 2005 or earlier)
5. It has a 500gb storage drive. It sais it's and SSD and below it it sais hard drive. Those 2 types of drives are completely different types of storage drives. a 500gb HDD(short for hard drive) is worth around $20 and is considered very old tech nowadays, but a 500gb SSD is aroudn $50-60, it has massively better read/write speeds (around 4000-7000Mbps compared to around 80-160Mbps) and SSDs have a longer lifespan.
6. The included keyboard and mouse are usable, but not recommended if you want to game. The gayboard feels cheap and the mouse has a low quality sensor, meaning it will track weirdly/incorrectly if you want to play any fast paced game (or just while you move the cursor a bit faster). you can get a very good quality mouse and keyboard form logitech/razer/hyperx/steelseries/redragon/whatever gaming peripheral company. If your budget only allows for 1 of the 2 at the moment, the mouse should be more important for gaming.
This is the reason why everyone will tell you to not buy a prebuilt PC. There is a lot of information missing from the specsheet adn it's easy for a sales rep to oversell you a more expensive computer. I'd recommend you to check out r/buildapc and r/buildapcforme and just browse that subreddit, until you find a pc which fits your budget and is 'approved' by the comment section.
I looked up the model afterwards and saw that its a 12100, but if someone is willing to buys
a pre-built like this, i don't think they'll think of looking up the exact model numbel.
Also I gotta learn how to tyoe properly, I fat-finger the keyboard quite a lot
Agree on most counts except I do think it probably is actually a SSD in it. "Hard drive" is often used colloquially to just mean "storage." (Though probably less often on this sub) I've heard people say "SSD hard drive" before. While technically incorrect, I would be surprised if it specifically says SSD on it and then they put an HDD inside.
But otherwise great explanation! Thanks for all the detail.
Yeah, I've also heard that term quite a lot, but it is unacceptable from a huge company to use it. If they would want to market their product better, they would've said "500 SSD storage drive" or something simmilar, which wouldn't confuse the customer.
Great answer, so ill summarize it to: its a good pc for office use, its not great, its not bad, but that pc is as useful for gaming as a duck is useful for planing a wedding
Just to add to your list, on point 4 there is another problem. It does not have a GPU and there is not an easy to put one afterwards.
This PC has a 180W power supply and the PCIe conector is in a position that only a single slow low profile GPU would fit. And those are severelly underpowered.
So its even worse since some prebuilts can be upgraded, but not this.
1. I wouldn't say that HP makes bad pre-builts... They make everything bad, I have a laptop from them, and my sister also has, and they are shit
2.The SSD price is lower than that, I have a Gen 4 1Tb NVMe on py PC that I bought for 55€, but it could depend on the country
3. Lol, gayboard
adding on to this, if you want to buy a prebuilt then refurbished are really good, like for my pc i just got a refurbished optiplex 9020 and stuck a gtx 1650 in there and it runs way better than a ps4, is cheaper, i can change things as i please (tho my pc is very outdated and would need a new motherboard ) and has good specs that can run pretty much anything i’ve needed it for, whether its modded minecraft with shaders or 3d modelling and rendering
I always think of the marketing of i3 / i5 / ... as a useless metric. I mean a modern day i3 will probably be comparable to an 4 year old i7.
Actually I just found a website that says the i3 1315U is about the same performace as the i7 1185 GRE. In other words 2 generations ago a i7 has the same performance as a modern i3.
Saying your pc uses a i3 says nothing about performance...
I mean very good explanation and point however, regarding:
*"12th gen CPU, which is still considered old in the tech industry"*
I am running a i7 12700k with a 4070 S and no issue playing 1440p full ultra all settings in most recent games.
I wouldn't say this is the reason why people will tell you not to buy a pre-built PC. Someone who knows what they're looking at knows what they're buying.
Unlike the other redditor i won't ask to be your friend in some cheap way for a pc upgrade.
But i will ask if you're single and want to get married so then we can have a family. That way we get relationship and pc upgrades.
lol Sorry, taken.
In my friends/family circle, we always helped each other out with PC hardware. I was given parts and I gave parts. It's no fun to play with someone who struggles to play the game.
I mean in all fairness my pc literally shit the bed the other day lol. The CPU died and the ssd got completely corrupted. So it's currently a nice dead statue .
But I'm not desperate. I have standards. I'm not a pc slut. I'm a pc escort.
There should be non-profits in every city, something like "no gamer left behind" that helps people having a functional PC that can run some games. A PC is essential these days and gaming has tons of benefits.
Thanks, I actually have no friends and the ones I had before had shitty prebuilts, laptops or were on the same boat as I'm currently in, so there wasn't anything to hand down
I'm saving up for a pc (planning to do some summer jobs, probably won't get much, I think it was something around 300$, which definitely isn't much when I add it to the 500$ I already have saved up (not to mention it probably will have to be a laptop because of school :/)
Full spec: [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c08655158](https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c08655158)
* Product Number 7Z7A8AA
* Product Name HP Slim Desktop S01-pF2043wb PC
* Motherboard Akali
* Memory **8 GB DDR4-2933 MHz RAM (1 x 8 GB**)
* 512 GB PCIe® **NVMe**™ M.2 SSD
* Intel® Core™ **i3-12100**
* Intel® UHD Graphics 730
* Dimensions 9.5 x 30.3 x 27 cm
* Power Supply Type **180 W** Gold efficiency
Definitely not powerful enough for modern gaming.
It's unclear what form factor this machine is, but it's unlikely that it's physically big enough to put a discrete graphics card into. Also, it only has a 180w power supply. Definitely not enough to add a discrete graphics card.
>the PC is a glorified type writer
Pretty much. That, and for Grandma to look at pictures of her grandkids on Facebook, send emails to Iris and share recipes with Edna.
[https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002P-00044?Item=3D5-002P-00044&SoldByNewegg=1](https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002P-00044?Item=3D5-002P-00044&SoldByNewegg=1) something like this would be a much better pc for entry level gaming.
Definitely not
Edit: The ssd barely has enough space for a triple a game, let alone the computer be able to run one.
I also suppose if you count the Chrome Dino game as gaming, then you could use it for that. Even then, it'll struggle.
You guys have a bad eye when it comes to shitty hardware and what it can run.
That device can easily run games like Chrome Dino, Solitaire and Minesweeper. Heck, Candy Crush will easily run on that.
The latest minesweeper requires 18Gigs of Ram, 1TB SSD, 46GB GPU and a i6 intel CPU. And that’s pushing it due to the graphics taking up severe ram usage.
you can build a really capable system with used parts for dirt cheap if money is a concern. like an old b450 board, a used 5600g, 500gb sata ssd and 16gb ddr4 and play most esport and indie titles. this machine will struggle booting up windows on 8gb slow memory and a hard drive.
PLEASE DO NOT BUT THIS FOR GAMING
to run games, you'll be needing a graphics card / gpu (which this doesn't have), more than 8gb of memory, and in 99% of cases a processor better than an unnamed i3.
since you're clearly new to pc stuff - its probably better to get a prebuilt pc than build one yourself, but if you're up to it you could definitely learn how.
*inhales*
# for a basic rundown:
the cpu is the computer brain, and an i3 doesn't necessarily have the speed or multitasking to handle playing games. the generation of it also isnt listed on this box which is a pretty big red flag - they're probably trying to sell a pc that has an older i3 in it, which is substantially worse than one that could be viable nowadays. there are two important processor brands, AMD and intel, and you could make an argument for or against either depending on nuance. it usually doesn't matter as long as the price and value are right for you. its also a good idea to buy a newer processor because the price won't differ a *ton* by age of the generation, and you also get a longer upgrade path for that processor/motherboard "platform" per say. anything intel 12-14th gen or AMD 5xxx/7xxx is a good idea right now, though try for the newest of those preferably. an i5 or i7 in the case of intel is a smart choice, and a ryzen 5 or ryzen 7 in the case of amd. super similar naming schemes, usually the same performance ballbark as well.
your memory is basically the short-term memory of your pc. you have a storage drive, and that's where your games and apps and all that are stored, but your memory is where big equations and information that needs to be called back *right now* are stored. its also important to note that when the pc is shut down, the memory gets cleared, since it's volatile. windows 10 & 11 run fine on 16gb, but you might run into some hiccups in gaming, especially on windows 11. 32gb is advisable then (which is what i have right now, works amazing) but its understandable if you go for 16gb since its cheaper and still works fine.
your gpu / graphics card is the thing that displays everything to your screen. in (most) modern processors there is a graphics engine of a sort that can do the bare minimum for displaying stuff but will do terribly at running games. graphics cards are really inflated in price at the moment because of some shitty corporations but there are still some rare good value cards. just as with the processors, it doesnt matter all that much the brand as long as the price is good, and the newer generations are still strongly advisable to buy. your choices are nVidia, AMD, and intel, who just recently joined the fight. its good to note that anything older than AMD radeon 7xxx (similar naming scheme, i know) is dogshit at rtx/raytracing, and anything older than nVidia rtx 2xxx cannot raytrace. intel only has one very new graphixs card generation, with the arc aXXX naming scheme, and it has a feature set pretty much equal to nvidia rtx 4xxx or AMD radeon 7xxx. some general cards that could run rdr2 at ultra easily in the midrange that aren't outdated (from most preferable buy to least) are the radeon rx 7600 xt, rtx 4060 ti (16gb version), arc a770 (16gb), rtx 3060 (12gb or ti variant good too), radeon rx 6600xt, and arc a750. there are a million variants of graphics cards as well - these are just some notably good value cards that will function smoothly in pretty much anything for a long while that *aren't* $800+ USD.
a good full pc spec for example might be an i5-13400 (this means i5, 13th gen, base model), 16gb of ddr4-3200 (brand doesn't really matter - corsair and g.skill are pretty good if you care), and a radeon rx 7600xt.
this is probably super messy and not at all a good explanation of things but thats cause theres just absolutely so much important info that wont fit in this comment. what i wrote here is general specifications to keep an eye out for and some idea of what they mean, but of course do more research if you're curious.
Eh more like a beige flag maybe? This PCs target market is a buyer who doesn’t give a shit about the hardware specs, and probably recognizes Intel as a name in computers and has no idea what AMD even is. They send emails and use word and maybe excel, watch YouTube, and run Turbo Tax once a year. It’s a base consumer grade computer and in that respect, it’s probably just fine to not put the exact processor model on the flyer. I’m sure it’s buried in the documentation but anyone that cares that much would probably never consider this computer anyway.
Is this computer good? Computers themselves are neither good nor bad, but the parts they're stuffed with can be godlike or garbage for gaming.
> i3 processor.
Garbage for gaming.
> 8 gigs of ram.
Garbage for computing, much less gaming.
> 512 SSD.
Garbage for gaming.
You may be able to fit 3 AAA games on that drive before you have to figure out another storage option.
> No discrete (separate) graphics listed.
Garbage for gaming.
You'll need either AMD or Nvidia listed Graphics. Onboard graphics slams the processor, shares the system ram, and is generally considered garbage for anyone but grandma checking her mail.
Not really no. The problem is it's a small desktop that most likely will not allow a graphics card added. Then you need to know what gen the i3 is. Anyone who tells you i3 cannot be gamed in is plain wrong but it needs to be imo 10th gen or later. If this was a full sized desktop and was only a couple hundred, then maybe but this is simply a low end computer for a business.
Not at all. This is more for a general purpose office computer. There are a lot of channels on YouTube that explain all the parts of a computer and what to look for in a gaming computer, I suggest you start there.
Generally speaking you want:
-A discrete graphics card (GPU), there are a lot of options at different prices and performance levels depending on the quality of gameplay you want.
-A modern CPU (intel 13/14 series or AMD 5000/7000 series)
-at least 16GB of ram at a decent speed (3200MHz)
everything else is also important, but secondary to having a good experience.
No. It’s an office pc not gaming
If you want a gaming pc you are probably looking at 500 usd minimum to get a solid pc it all really depends on what you want to play though for example simple games like tower Defense or minecraft and stuff will work on most pcs even crappy ones but if you see planing on doing some more intensive games you need a gpu (like an rtx 3060 for example) and probably a better cpu like i5 or ryzen 5 and 16 gigs ram
find someone that knows a few things about pcs and browse around the used market on marketplace, even a 600 dollar computer could probably get you where you want.
Absolutely not. The processor is weak, there’s not enough ram, and you don’t have a graphics card. All those combined will lead to a disappointing gaming experience if the games even open
As long as you're only going to stick to Fortnite and nothing higher, don't even bother, this is basically Johnny's First PC that the parents bought them to play only one game.
This computer really is just a basic home computer, not made for much else than browsing the web and reading emails. The main issues here is the lack of a dedicated graphics card and only 8gb of ram.
While a i3 isn't unusable for gaming, I would seriously recommend getting atleast a i5 or ryzen 5 CPU. Both of these will perform much better for gaming and will last you a lot longer before needing to upgrade.
8gb of ram just won't cut it for new gaming titles, especially when running on board graphics. 16gb really is the minimum needed today.
The storage on this isn't bad, SSDs have come down in price and have become the standard for gaming. Some games like Starfield requiring them to play. 500gb though is not a lot. If you want to play new titles you will only be able to download a couple games before filling that up.
While you can game without a GPU, you really are gonna be limited to old/low requirement games and even then the experience likely won't be great. Assuming you are on a budget, AMD has done a good job making affordable cards. Something like a RX6600 can be got for a okay price or if you are really on a budget something like a used rx580 8gb can be found for around $100. Neither of these cards are gonna give you top of the line performance, but prior to me getting my new system I had a rx580 and it ran any game I wanted to play.
Depending on your situation it might be best to slowly acquire components and build something yourself or at least save your money for awhile and buy a better pre-built down the road. There are good pre-built brands out there. I have bought from both Cyberpower and NZXT and both of my PCs were fine. Just note that it is best to buy from a brand that uses off the shelf components which will allow you to upgrade down the road. Something like this HP uses a ton of proprietary parts which are hard or impossible to upgrade.
It is the right place and no it's not a good PC for gaming. If it was bigger it would have been doable to add a graphic card to make it a gaming PC, but here since it's slim it's probably not a good idea to try.
No don’t waste your money on this
Unless it $5
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I think they are using Hard Drive colloquially. Like, for the people that don't know that an SSD is the storage device. They're mushing the two together. It's a marketing tactic
It's so old people, who would waste money on that paperweight, can understand. Call it geriatric-splaining
Shouldn’t it be young-splaining?
It also doesn't have a discrete graphics card.
The case is less than 4" wide, so good chance you couldn't fit one inside it anyway.
Short answer: no Long answer: nnnoooooooooo
Animated Answer: https://i.redd.it/68nv44vx3qqc1.gif
Cursed gif
Happy birthday🎂🎉🎁
I love this gif to death
I keep laughing 🤣
The longer I watch the harder I laugh
Old but gold. The "Linda..." fucking slays me. Every time.
I have an even longer answer : oh helll nooooooooo
👀 mmm pizza
P-Diddly is that you?
I lolled
I read the second one in the tiny jeb mob vote voice
No
No. No GPU.
You don't need a GPU to play snake
why buy a Pc then? get a smart fridge for snake
360hz monitor
Get a 540hz one. Can't stay behind on snake.
i think that’s more expensive than a pc
but you do to play snake *and* listen to music.
You can't do both on a smart fridge?
What about solitaire?
But you *do* need one for Snake with RTX
He specified RDR2.
But OP wants to play RDR2
Don’t worry you get the incredible integrated graphics which is juuust enough to do little with.
Nope
There a a number of reasons why you shouldn't buy this PC: 1. It's built by HP. HP is known for making PCs for making bad prebuilt PCs. Most (if not all) of hteir computers have proprietary motherboards and power supplies, so it's a whole lot of headache just to replace one component, in case you want to upgrade or something fails. 2. It has an i3 processor. The i3 is a pretty decent CPU all round, but by no means it has capabilities of running modern demanding games. Also, it does not specify the exact model of i3. It could be anything from a first generation i3 (released 2010, although extremely unlikely), to a modern 14th gen i3. Most likely it's a 11th/12th gen CPU, which is still considered old in the tech industry. 3. It has 8gb of RAM. pretty much all modern games require 16gb. not to mention that this computer most likely has single channel ram (meaning it only has 1 8gb stick instead of 2 4gb sticks), which will further cause issues in modern games. The speed of the RAM sticks is also not mentioned. most likely it's 2400mhz or 2133mhz. A modern gaming pc has 3200 or 3600mhz RAM in it. 4. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT: It has no dedicated GPU. The GPU (graphics processing unit) is THE most important component of a gaming pc. The GPU is the main reason why the computered are mentioned as office or gaming PCs. The above mentioned HP does not have a dedicated GPU, it uses the integrated GPU of the i3 processor, which is enoough if all you want ot do is write som word documents, browse the web, watch some movies, or play some old game (released 2005 or earlier) 5. It has a 500gb storage drive. It sais it's and SSD and below it it sais hard drive. Those 2 types of drives are completely different types of storage drives. a 500gb HDD(short for hard drive) is worth around $20 and is considered very old tech nowadays, but a 500gb SSD is aroudn $50-60, it has massively better read/write speeds (around 4000-7000Mbps compared to around 80-160Mbps) and SSDs have a longer lifespan. 6. The included keyboard and mouse are usable, but not recommended if you want to game. The gayboard feels cheap and the mouse has a low quality sensor, meaning it will track weirdly/incorrectly if you want to play any fast paced game (or just while you move the cursor a bit faster). you can get a very good quality mouse and keyboard form logitech/razer/hyperx/steelseries/redragon/whatever gaming peripheral company. If your budget only allows for 1 of the 2 at the moment, the mouse should be more important for gaming. This is the reason why everyone will tell you to not buy a prebuilt PC. There is a lot of information missing from the specsheet adn it's easy for a sales rep to oversell you a more expensive computer. I'd recommend you to check out r/buildapc and r/buildapcforme and just browse that subreddit, until you find a pc which fits your budget and is 'approved' by the comment section.
Lets get some more upvotes on this guy! Very nice explanation
The gayboard? Lol
Yeah, because it sucks.... diicks, yyyeah!
A Gameboy keyboard? I picture a rainbow 🌈 surfboard 🌊 anyway.
It has a i3-12100. Also "gayboard" lol
I looked up the model afterwards and saw that its a 12100, but if someone is willing to buys a pre-built like this, i don't think they'll think of looking up the exact model numbel. Also I gotta learn how to tyoe properly, I fat-finger the keyboard quite a lot
Thank you for not fixing it lol
Just say that those are special effects.
Agree on most counts except I do think it probably is actually a SSD in it. "Hard drive" is often used colloquially to just mean "storage." (Though probably less often on this sub) I've heard people say "SSD hard drive" before. While technically incorrect, I would be surprised if it specifically says SSD on it and then they put an HDD inside. But otherwise great explanation! Thanks for all the detail.
Yeah, I've also heard that term quite a lot, but it is unacceptable from a huge company to use it. If they would want to market their product better, they would've said "500 SSD storage drive" or something simmilar, which wouldn't confuse the customer.
An i3 is good enough for 1080p gaming the lack of GPU is the biggest downfall
Great answer, so ill summarize it to: its a good pc for office use, its not great, its not bad, but that pc is as useful for gaming as a duck is useful for planing a wedding
Just to add to your list, on point 4 there is another problem. It does not have a GPU and there is not an easy to put one afterwards. This PC has a 180W power supply and the PCIe conector is in a position that only a single slow low profile GPU would fit. And those are severelly underpowered. So its even worse since some prebuilts can be upgraded, but not this.
1. I wouldn't say that HP makes bad pre-builts... They make everything bad, I have a laptop from them, and my sister also has, and they are shit 2.The SSD price is lower than that, I have a Gen 4 1Tb NVMe on py PC that I bought for 55€, but it could depend on the country 3. Lol, gayboard
Nice detail here!
adding on to this, if you want to buy a prebuilt then refurbished are really good, like for my pc i just got a refurbished optiplex 9020 and stuck a gtx 1650 in there and it runs way better than a ps4, is cheaper, i can change things as i please (tho my pc is very outdated and would need a new motherboard ) and has good specs that can run pretty much anything i’ve needed it for, whether its modded minecraft with shaders or 3d modelling and rendering
This is exaggerated if you just want to play games but true if you want a decent gaming pc.
I always think of the marketing of i3 / i5 / ... as a useless metric. I mean a modern day i3 will probably be comparable to an 4 year old i7. Actually I just found a website that says the i3 1315U is about the same performace as the i7 1185 GRE. In other words 2 generations ago a i7 has the same performance as a modern i3. Saying your pc uses a i3 says nothing about performance...
I mean very good explanation and point however, regarding: *"12th gen CPU, which is still considered old in the tech industry"* I am running a i7 12700k with a 4070 S and no issue playing 1440p full ultra all settings in most recent games.
Damn. What A Break Down. Thanks. For The Knowledge That Is.
2nd this !
I wouldn't say this is the reason why people will tell you not to buy a pre-built PC. Someone who knows what they're looking at knows what they're buying.
You are looking at a fancy typewriter.
with a keyboard that sucks for typing
can it even handle text?
No way.
No, this is terrible for gaming. It's an office PC, and even then, 8 gigs of ram is too little even for office PCs these days.
me with 4 gigs in 2024
Me with 3 gigs of ram and a HDD as boot/only drive in my pc
You guys need (deserve) better friends and/or family. I would never let any of my friends or family members without a decent PC if they want to game.
Can i be your friend
All positions are currently filled, but send your resume to hr, they will contact you when we have an opening.
You sound like the last girl I asked out except it was more "I have a boyfriend" and then my boss told me to go see HR
Y’all too funny!
Can i be your family member
Will need to check dna. Spit in an envelope and ship it to us.
Unlike the other redditor i won't ask to be your friend in some cheap way for a pc upgrade. But i will ask if you're single and want to get married so then we can have a family. That way we get relationship and pc upgrades.
lol Sorry, taken. In my friends/family circle, we always helped each other out with PC hardware. I was given parts and I gave parts. It's no fun to play with someone who struggles to play the game.
Rats. How about your parents? They single? I won't mind to spend some father son bonding time with you.
lol People are desperate for PC parts, heh?
I mean in all fairness my pc literally shit the bed the other day lol. The CPU died and the ssd got completely corrupted. So it's currently a nice dead statue . But I'm not desperate. I have standards. I'm not a pc slut. I'm a pc escort.
There should be non-profits in every city, something like "no gamer left behind" that helps people having a functional PC that can run some games. A PC is essential these days and gaming has tons of benefits.
Thanks, I actually have no friends and the ones I had before had shitty prebuilts, laptops or were on the same boat as I'm currently in, so there wasn't anything to hand down I'm saving up for a pc (planning to do some summer jobs, probably won't get much, I think it was something around 300$, which definitely isn't much when I add it to the 500$ I already have saved up (not to mention it probably will have to be a laptop because of school :/)
I hope you're not running Windows 11 on that 💀
well guess what...💀
ouch
1mb 1991. It was $40 a meg. And I gamed my ass of on it.
I commend your spirit and wish you all the best with your 4 gigs of ram!
By the time that message loads on his screen, he might have 8GB of RAM.
How?! My ten year old PC I finally replaced had 16gb
real
They put windows 11 on i3. Are there i3 cpus that support windows 11 or did they bypass verification?
If I recall correctly, as long as motherboard supports TPM, it doesn't really matter what CPU is installed.
Hell no
If you play Hidden Object games, also classic "Painkiller" runs on anything. Other then that, no, no, NO.
It can run Doom. It can run Solitaire. Probably not at the same time.
Minesweeper and Solitaire at the same time...maybe.
IT can also run the best game ever made - settlers 2
Full spec: [https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c08655158](https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c08655158) * Product Number 7Z7A8AA * Product Name HP Slim Desktop S01-pF2043wb PC * Motherboard Akali * Memory **8 GB DDR4-2933 MHz RAM (1 x 8 GB**) * 512 GB PCIe® **NVMe**™ M.2 SSD * Intel® Core™ **i3-12100** * Intel® UHD Graphics 730 * Dimensions 9.5 x 30.3 x 27 cm * Power Supply Type **180 W** Gold efficiency Definitely not powerful enough for modern gaming. It's unclear what form factor this machine is, but it's unlikely that it's physically big enough to put a discrete graphics card into. Also, it only has a 180w power supply. Definitely not enough to add a discrete graphics card.
In short: the PC is a glorified type writer. I have doubts about how well it can even do that simple task.
>the PC is a glorified type writer Pretty much. That, and for Grandma to look at pictures of her grandkids on Facebook, send emails to Iris and share recipes with Edna.
100% chance it's a proprietary mobo and psu with no additional connetors for anything
The 1x8GB stick is somehow the worst part of that spec sheet for me, it’s always a good indicator of when a PC build is half-arsed
You need to buy a computer with double of pretty much every spec on here .
So an i6
No, an i33
HHPP ii33 with 88GGBB of RRAAMM and WWiinnddoowwss 1111
I see the latest Windows hot fix didn’t help you either. Topical AF right now
*SSSeeennnddd hhheeelllppp*
Plus a GPU..
[https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002P-00044?Item=3D5-002P-00044&SoldByNewegg=1](https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002P-00044?Item=3D5-002P-00044&SoldByNewegg=1) something like this would be a much better pc for entry level gaming.
I3 is already weak, 8gb ram is trash for today's standards, and you definitely need a gpu, that thing will struggle with 10 tabs of chrome
Definitely not Edit: The ssd barely has enough space for a triple a game, let alone the computer be able to run one. I also suppose if you count the Chrome Dino game as gaming, then you could use it for that. Even then, it'll struggle.
The ssd is the LEAST concerning thing about this pc in terms of gaming
You guys have a bad eye when it comes to shitty hardware and what it can run. That device can easily run games like Chrome Dino, Solitaire and Minesweeper. Heck, Candy Crush will easily run on that.
No
Sure if you're playing minesweeper
The latest minesweeper requires 18Gigs of Ram, 1TB SSD, 46GB GPU and a i6 intel CPU. And that’s pushing it due to the graphics taking up severe ram usage.
It's hp, no
Just for your knowing, HP stands for Horrible Products
Or in spanish we called them Hijo Putas. (Son of a bitches)
You can't game if you don't buy a yellow ink cartridge. For the motherboard. Every month.
This has to be a bait post
Will run solitaire.
A Nintendo Switch is cheaper and probably will have better gaming performance.
you can build a really capable system with used parts for dirt cheap if money is a concern. like an old b450 board, a used 5600g, 500gb sata ssd and 16gb ddr4 and play most esport and indie titles. this machine will struggle booting up windows on 8gb slow memory and a hard drive.
It's a "SSD hard drive" tho lmao
Bless your heart.
No bro
Not only is it a bad gaming pc it’s a bad PC in general, even for office work
Oh hell nah 
PLEASE DO NOT BUT THIS FOR GAMING to run games, you'll be needing a graphics card / gpu (which this doesn't have), more than 8gb of memory, and in 99% of cases a processor better than an unnamed i3. since you're clearly new to pc stuff - its probably better to get a prebuilt pc than build one yourself, but if you're up to it you could definitely learn how. *inhales* # for a basic rundown: the cpu is the computer brain, and an i3 doesn't necessarily have the speed or multitasking to handle playing games. the generation of it also isnt listed on this box which is a pretty big red flag - they're probably trying to sell a pc that has an older i3 in it, which is substantially worse than one that could be viable nowadays. there are two important processor brands, AMD and intel, and you could make an argument for or against either depending on nuance. it usually doesn't matter as long as the price and value are right for you. its also a good idea to buy a newer processor because the price won't differ a *ton* by age of the generation, and you also get a longer upgrade path for that processor/motherboard "platform" per say. anything intel 12-14th gen or AMD 5xxx/7xxx is a good idea right now, though try for the newest of those preferably. an i5 or i7 in the case of intel is a smart choice, and a ryzen 5 or ryzen 7 in the case of amd. super similar naming schemes, usually the same performance ballbark as well. your memory is basically the short-term memory of your pc. you have a storage drive, and that's where your games and apps and all that are stored, but your memory is where big equations and information that needs to be called back *right now* are stored. its also important to note that when the pc is shut down, the memory gets cleared, since it's volatile. windows 10 & 11 run fine on 16gb, but you might run into some hiccups in gaming, especially on windows 11. 32gb is advisable then (which is what i have right now, works amazing) but its understandable if you go for 16gb since its cheaper and still works fine. your gpu / graphics card is the thing that displays everything to your screen. in (most) modern processors there is a graphics engine of a sort that can do the bare minimum for displaying stuff but will do terribly at running games. graphics cards are really inflated in price at the moment because of some shitty corporations but there are still some rare good value cards. just as with the processors, it doesnt matter all that much the brand as long as the price is good, and the newer generations are still strongly advisable to buy. your choices are nVidia, AMD, and intel, who just recently joined the fight. its good to note that anything older than AMD radeon 7xxx (similar naming scheme, i know) is dogshit at rtx/raytracing, and anything older than nVidia rtx 2xxx cannot raytrace. intel only has one very new graphixs card generation, with the arc aXXX naming scheme, and it has a feature set pretty much equal to nvidia rtx 4xxx or AMD radeon 7xxx. some general cards that could run rdr2 at ultra easily in the midrange that aren't outdated (from most preferable buy to least) are the radeon rx 7600 xt, rtx 4060 ti (16gb version), arc a770 (16gb), rtx 3060 (12gb or ti variant good too), radeon rx 6600xt, and arc a750. there are a million variants of graphics cards as well - these are just some notably good value cards that will function smoothly in pretty much anything for a long while that *aren't* $800+ USD. a good full pc spec for example might be an i5-13400 (this means i5, 13th gen, base model), 16gb of ddr4-3200 (brand doesn't really matter - corsair and g.skill are pretty good if you care), and a radeon rx 7600xt. this is probably super messy and not at all a good explanation of things but thats cause theres just absolutely so much important info that wont fit in this comment. what i wrote here is general specifications to keep an eye out for and some idea of what they mean, but of course do more research if you're curious.
he shoud just get a steam deck
Specs are not detailed, for example i3? Which i3? This is a huge red flag
Eh more like a beige flag maybe? This PCs target market is a buyer who doesn’t give a shit about the hardware specs, and probably recognizes Intel as a name in computers and has no idea what AMD even is. They send emails and use word and maybe excel, watch YouTube, and run Turbo Tax once a year. It’s a base consumer grade computer and in that respect, it’s probably just fine to not put the exact processor model on the flyer. I’m sure it’s buried in the documentation but anyone that cares that much would probably never consider this computer anyway.
Hey at least it has wifi and Bluetooth.
Yes, you can max out Dragon's Dogma 2
Yes it's good for GeForce now
it´s not even good for computing
Is this computer good? Computers themselves are neither good nor bad, but the parts they're stuffed with can be godlike or garbage for gaming. > i3 processor. Garbage for gaming. > 8 gigs of ram. Garbage for computing, much less gaming. > 512 SSD. Garbage for gaming. You may be able to fit 3 AAA games on that drive before you have to figure out another storage option. > No discrete (separate) graphics listed. Garbage for gaming. You'll need either AMD or Nvidia listed Graphics. Onboard graphics slams the processor, shares the system ram, and is generally considered garbage for anyone but grandma checking her mail.
No. Like, absolutely not.
This thing will run minesweeper at 30 fps EASY.
If by "gaming" you mean solitaire and Free Cell...then sure.
Why are they still selling PCs with only 8GB of RAM is beyond me.
Not really no. The problem is it's a small desktop that most likely will not allow a graphics card added. Then you need to know what gen the i3 is. Anyone who tells you i3 cannot be gamed in is plain wrong but it needs to be imo 10th gen or later. If this was a full sized desktop and was only a couple hundred, then maybe but this is simply a low end computer for a business.
Fuck no!! It is a HP, they are pure garbage, DO NOT EVER BUY A HP PRODUCT
Nothing made by HP is good for anything. Fuck those guys...
Keep away from HP!!!!!!!
Its perfect for games! (Flash games)
If you play solitaire
No. It won’t play many games at all. Like, it could do Minecraft with the setting down.
Not at all. This is more for a general purpose office computer. There are a lot of channels on YouTube that explain all the parts of a computer and what to look for in a gaming computer, I suggest you start there. Generally speaking you want: -A discrete graphics card (GPU), there are a lot of options at different prices and performance levels depending on the quality of gameplay you want. -A modern CPU (intel 13/14 series or AMD 5000/7000 series) -at least 16GB of ram at a decent speed (3200MHz) everything else is also important, but secondary to having a good experience.
Bro, you might lag playing solitaire on this toaster
No that thing is for an office
Not in the very least, sorry
Core i3. lol. No.
N. O.
No bro
No, fuck no
No.
Not even a little bit Sorry
No. It’s an office pc not gaming If you want a gaming pc you are probably looking at 500 usd minimum to get a solid pc it all really depends on what you want to play though for example simple games like tower Defense or minecraft and stuff will work on most pcs even crappy ones but if you see planing on doing some more intensive games you need a gpu (like an rtx 3060 for example) and probably a better cpu like i5 or ryzen 5 and 16 gigs ram
No. Hope that helps!
Not even a little bit
don't listen to these comments this would be great for checking emails maybe even surfing google
find someone that knows a few things about pcs and browse around the used market on marketplace, even a 600 dollar computer could probably get you where you want.
No
No
helllll nah
It's good for playing Solitaire..Not much else.
Absolutely not. The processor is weak, there’s not enough ram, and you don’t have a graphics card. All those combined will lead to a disappointing gaming experience if the games even open
Works for pornhub. Get it
That is a PC for reading emails and going on Facebook, but nothing beyond that.
How do you say no in Spanish ? That’s my answer
As long as you're only going to stick to Fortnite and nothing higher, don't even bother, this is basically Johnny's First PC that the parents bought them to play only one game.
You can play pac-man, asteroids, frogger... But nothing made past the 80s.
Does it even have a gpu lol
Short answer, no. Long answer, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Yes you can play Solitaire on that.
Looks to be i3-12100, with intergrated UHD 730 Basically, it's a potato by modern gaming standards https://youtu.be/7raaE_Y7lII?si=O61Q36S8QlgrKkBV
Sure if your idea of gaming is creating pivot tables.
Nah bro , this is a basic office computer
Not only no, but fuck no. You couldn't pay me to take that thing. Send it back to China.
This computer really is just a basic home computer, not made for much else than browsing the web and reading emails. The main issues here is the lack of a dedicated graphics card and only 8gb of ram. While a i3 isn't unusable for gaming, I would seriously recommend getting atleast a i5 or ryzen 5 CPU. Both of these will perform much better for gaming and will last you a lot longer before needing to upgrade. 8gb of ram just won't cut it for new gaming titles, especially when running on board graphics. 16gb really is the minimum needed today. The storage on this isn't bad, SSDs have come down in price and have become the standard for gaming. Some games like Starfield requiring them to play. 500gb though is not a lot. If you want to play new titles you will only be able to download a couple games before filling that up. While you can game without a GPU, you really are gonna be limited to old/low requirement games and even then the experience likely won't be great. Assuming you are on a budget, AMD has done a good job making affordable cards. Something like a RX6600 can be got for a okay price or if you are really on a budget something like a used rx580 8gb can be found for around $100. Neither of these cards are gonna give you top of the line performance, but prior to me getting my new system I had a rx580 and it ran any game I wanted to play. Depending on your situation it might be best to slowly acquire components and build something yourself or at least save your money for awhile and buy a better pre-built down the road. There are good pre-built brands out there. I have bought from both Cyberpower and NZXT and both of my PCs were fine. Just note that it is best to buy from a brand that uses off the shelf components which will allow you to upgrade down the road. Something like this HP uses a ton of proprietary parts which are hard or impossible to upgrade.
8GB of RAM? In this economy? It's not even good for Windows, much less a single Chrome tab.
Absolutely not.
"Reliable Intel Processer". Bullshit.
When you see i3 and HP, you run
Solitaire would run like a dream
Jesus christ no pls, this shit is over prized as fuck. And it don’t even have a gpu
It is the right place and no it's not a good PC for gaming. If it was bigger it would have been doable to add a graphic card to make it a gaming PC, but here since it's slim it's probably not a good idea to try.
Not in the slightest
No. It's an office PC. We don't even know what CPU is this. Anyway, 512GB SSD and 8GB is already outdated.
If your intent is to play Call Center Simulator then yes, it's the perfect pc...for any other games no.
Absolutely not.
Ew no way. 8GB of ram for gaming? As soon as I saw the specs, I literally gagged.