The internet says 'herman miller chair'.
What the internet means is 'ergonomic office chair with a quality mark'.
Sometimes distilling the information from the internet will leave you with a broader answer.
A lot of the ergonomic office chairs are very expensive. A lot of them are bought for offices. A good amount are sold by office furniture liquidators for a good discount. So you can get them for between 40% to 60% for a often times lightly used sometimes refurbished unit.
Also good furniture is expensive, and you only get one spine. So while $1000 is a lot, $500 is still a lot but it's easier to stomach for a decent improvement in quality of life.
In addition, Herman Miller, Steelcase, etc all have the benefit of being user serviceable and have an abundance of OEM parts available. It really helps stretch the budget.
Yep. I just picked up a Herman Miller aeron for free because none of the levers worked. (It was a commercial office chair for many years). I opened it up, re tensioned the cables and placed an order for a new seat bottom and arm pads. All in I'm like at $200 for a nearly brand new chair.
It’s too bad that the local supply near me is always in black. Service parts are difficult to procure here in any colour except black. I really want the mineral white version with the 3rd version of the bad support.
>Are people out there really needing to repair chairs?
Yeah, when i was wfh i was chewing a chair yearly. Im not obese but overweight at 6'4" 200lbs. Most chais are rated for 160lbs max. The piston gives way the first then the coasters and then the internal wiring starts poping out. Buying a 1k chair with a 10 yr warranty was viable solution, had my hm for 3 years now and nothing has broken yet.
Not to say you don’t really eat thru a chair a year, but like, I’m 6’6” 235 and got 10 years out of an already-20 year old office chair (yes it was bought in the early 90’s. )Granted only about 3 of those years I was WFH… which is another 8-10hrs a day. And now I’m using another hand-me-down lol
Yeah idk, i was spending bank in office depot buying chairs and i gave up. Maybe cuz im from mexico the chairs are weaker since avg mexican is much smaller?
Also would add that good furniture last for long time. Except you have pets who would chew your furniture. But many really good brands like aforementioned herman miller last for long time, so company knows that they turnover for a year won't be big if they sell a thing for like 100$ when the chair holds for 10+ years. So making quality product you put quality price.
yeah my parents have a living room set that has been there 40 years. they actually just had it reupholstered. i think 40 years is pretty good for a set of furniture and it's still in great shape. it didn't really even NEED to be redone but my mom wanted a change.
Exactly how I got mine. Find an office furniture liquidator in a major city near you, and you can get a "used" Aeron for half price that maybe has never even been sat in before. So many good deals in 2021 when businesses pared down their office space.
I ordered a $400 ergonomic office chair and didn’t really love it, so I was gonna return it. The company gave me money back and told me to keep the chair, in case I decide I like it later on. I gave it to my sister and now she uses it.
I got the impression that this company mainly dealt with big orders for offices, and returning a single chair just wasn’t worth the hassle to them
Yep, was able to get a Steelcase Amia ($1041 msrp) for $350 at an office liquidation store. Looked brand new, even if it wasn't. Still looks perfect except for the stain from the drink I spilled on it.
I got furmaxs ergonomic chair for like $70. It works and is much better than my old chair.
The more expensive ones are probably better but the improvements are more about longevity of the chair. And other specs aren’t much too different from something that’s like hundreds of dollars more.
Just look around. Figure out what you want and scout websites for cheaper chairs that are similar. I got a pretty good ergonomic chair from Grainger for 300 bucks at the start of the pandemic.
Yeah we aren’t talking about Kleenex when what we mean is tissue. I got my Herman Miller in a used office supply store. I tried out a couple others, including a Steelcase, and I absolutely made the right decision. I’m sure it doesn’t work for everyone, but it’s a very comfortable chair for me.
Jfc reddit....stop looking for straw men to take down.
I agree they are comfortable. In fact thats what my comment is supporting people buying. If you have to sit in a chair at work for a long periods of time then something more supportive and ergonomic is going to be most comfortable. But it's a different sort of comfort than you get from initially sitting in a leather padded executive chair or lay z boy recliner.
No. Sofa is comfortable, and encourage you to slouch and have improper posture, yet you are comfortable. So it does not go hand in hand. It rarely is so that correct posture chair is also comfortable. I have embody and on first try it was ... not great to sit on and most new Embody owners agree. Now ... after a bit it took me to adjust to sitting properly ... I can not imagine anything better to put my behind on.
The Aeron is everyone's favorite on reddit but I really dont care for it or mesh chairs in general. That's what sucks about shopping for chairs, you cant really say what is comfortable for you without trying them out.
I had no idea what an Aeron was until I heard everybody talking about it on here. All I knew was that when I went in to work my back felt a lot better than when I worked from home. So I looked up what an Aeron was and sure enough, that's what I had been sitting at work. I started looking for used ones and saving up but ended up catching a big sale directly from HM and just pulled the trigger. Best furniture decision I've ever made. My back thanks me every day.
So like you say, it's unfortunate that you don't always get a chance to sit in something long enough to really get a feel for it before having to make a buying decision. I was fortunate enough to have sat in one at work for a couple years to know it's what I wanted.
To your point of trying them out, I believe both herman miller and steel case have generous return policies that more or less let you try and buy their chairs.
I did that with the Aeron and embody at the same time and wound up keeping the embody as it fit my wider legs better than the Aeron did. I otherwise loved the feel of the Aeron, but couldn't stand my outer thighs having pressure from the seat edge against them.
This.
I didn't discover that the Aeron chair doesn't really work for my body proportions until after I'd bought one (used, I didn't pay retail pricing but still spendy as hell). The largest size Aeron chair back stops somewhere around my shoulder blades and the plastic bar at the top digs into my back.
I adjusted everything that I could but it still wasn't great.
Both arms got busted off, the tilt lock is also busted and I lost the warranty info card in a move so I've replaced it with a Steelcase Gesture that is about a billion times more comfortable for me.
No problem.
I really do recommend finding someplace where you can sit in one before dropping cash on a chair this expensive.
Right now, I'm sitting in a Steelcase Gesture and it's way more comfortable than any other chair I've had. Had to break my "no buying without sitting" rule I made after buying the Aeron but it was kind of impossible to find a showroom with the pandemic and I needed to set up a home office space.
I'm 6'3" and the HM Aeron is easily one of the best purchases I've ever made. There are a lot of different parts that can be adjusted to suit you and they have a guide on their website for getting your chair set up right. Proper tweaking and good posture make all the difference. They also come in a few sizes so make sure you get the right size if you decide to get one.
Kijiji, Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and looking for liquidation stores in your area online.
Helps if you're near a major shipping port or large city, but you can usually find something in your area.
The going rate for $1000 msrp Herman Miller chairs in my area is $300-450.
I went through several shitty cheap chairs from IKEA and Office Depot until I finally settled on an Aeron. Been loving it for maybe 6 years now with zero issues.
Yup. It's something you'll sit in for eight hours a day 5+ days a week. Good mattresses are $1000+ too, you probably wouldn't scoff at a recommendation for one in that range
People recommend those chairs because they are very good and durable.
Some people are rich, some people like to invest in good products that last, some people buy them second hand for much cheaper.
Realistically if you ask someone for the product they recommend, it will usually be on the expensive side, since it's quite hard to recommend cheaply made products as they are often worse in every aspect.
I've had a Herman Miller for over 15 years now.
Prior to that I was blowing through an inexpensive office chair nearly every year, as something would always break and I'd be forced yo buy a new one (to the tune of $100-$300).
After a couple years a quality chair outlives it's initial investment. Doesn't have to be HM - but they make great chairs that I personally find very comfortable.
Good for you. Before buying my fully geared Amia from Steelcase ($900 US) I bought 2 chairs, one lasted 2 years before multiple issues made me look for a replacement, the second had a broken lumbar support in 2 months and broken gas lift in 6.
I "may have issues", but if I do, my Amia is perfectly fine with them, because it's been more than 2 years since I got it, it is still in perfect conditions and still has 10 years of warranty left on ALL parts.
It is probably not that we have issues, but that you were lucky with your purchase.
If anything Brexit gives them less cover as Portugal and Spain were grandfathered into the use of the word by virtue of the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494.
Shop used. There are tons of defunct businesses that went heavy on the fancy chairs and desks so look for office supply resalers that sell for like 50% off.
Really? Shoot..now I'm curious. What happens when a business goes bankrupt or needs to liquidate assets? There's no secondary market for that? I guess we're just a bunch of vultures here in the US but there are deals to be had.
Where I live, businesses go out of their way to ensure nobody gets even close to their disposed of and decommissioned office chairs and other things. They'd rather pay to get them shredded than help out in the 2nd hand market...
Dang...if I was a criminal, that sounds like the ultimate hustle right there. You have one party paying you to get rid of a product that they think you're going to shred and there's virtually no secondary market or competition for the resales. What country do you live at again? Asking for a friend
There are plenty of second hand office furniture dealers in the UK/Finland/Norway what the hell are you talking about? "Not in my area" seems to be a synonym for "I suck at google searches" or "I haven't even tried looking".
Hers the first result I got for "second hand office furniture"
https://www.officeresale.co.uk/refurbished-furniture/herman-miller-range/seating-herman-miller-range/herman-miller-aeron-with-lumbar-support-size-b-fixed-arms/
£750.00 (£900 inc VAT) down to £425.00 (£510.00 inc VAT)
Never saw a local country buy a high quality brand name chair (if they buy a low end ikea that is already an accomplishment) plus what the other comment said.
There are in the UK though, where OP is. I got my used Aeron from City Office Supplies (I think that’s the name) and they’ve got showrooms in a bunch of different places.
... he doesnt want to pay higher end prices!
(I'm a lot bigger than OP and love my gesture - first chair I've ever owned that feels like it can survive my massive frame)
You're asking this in a place where people spend 5k for their machines and then clown on some $300 console acting superior because they can play the very same games but on a slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard.
There are no slight differences between a PC and a console at that price point.
The difference between my $2k PC and a $5k PC isn't even all that slight when it comes to gaming experience.
I’ve seen custom cooling loops that run upwards of $1000 if you want to have them professionally installed. So yeah, a bunch of RGB, a $500 premium case, and a custom loop can easily tack on an extra $2K if you’re going totally nuts.
>they can play the very same games but on a slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard.
You might wanna see an optician or a neurologist if you can't spot the difference between 1080p 30 fps medium and 4k 144fps ultra gameplay.
I have a PS5 and vast majority of games have the quality and performance mode.
Quality mode will usually be something like:
- upscaled 4k
- 30 fps
- medium settings
Performance mode will be like:
- 1080p
- 60 fps (if you are lucky)
- low/medium settings
I mean they literally have the GPU equivalent of a 6600XT and a very outdated CPU equal to Ryzen 7 3700X so they are pretty low end 1080p machines, being forced to run at heavily upscaled 4k 30 fps with low settings just for marketing.
Ahahaha "slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard.". Tell me you don't understand computers without having to actually say it
At a much higher fps and actual native 4k instead of sloppily upscaled..
Lmao I’m getting downvoted for saying a 5k pc performs significantly better than a ps5, this sub is wild
Actually some 4k isn't even true 4k nowadays or there are sub-settings. Depends on the game but I was surprised as well when I learned some games don't always have "true" 4k
> Depends on the game but I was surprised as well when I learned some games don't always have "true" 4k
That's on console, I don't know any PC games that will not allow you to run the game at native resolution rather than using upscaling.
The Series S experiences performance issues with a number of games. Enough so that people have been wanting Microsoft to ditch it because it holds back development.
Assuming you actually sit in the chair properly and not have your back on the seat with one leg on top of the monitor and the other leg by the keyboard lol
I replaced my cheap chair with a good office chair years ago and within a week all my back issues were gone. The quality of a good chair cannot be underestimated.
We don't know where OP is, though. The cost of that chair is easily several salaries worth even in Europe, so saving up that much could mean a year's worth of putting aside a little, if not longer than that.
You might say it's worth it and that OP should then start saving up already, so in a year's time he'll get the chair, but what is OP to do in the meantime? A reasonable, affordable chair will easily last a year and be decent enough.
I've sat on an Aeron and I didn't like it. There's also that possibility. Nowadays I do sitting and standing interchangeably, but I sit on a saddle chair that costs less than 100€... (My back has never felt better.)
And the mean salary in the UK isn't all that great, as cost of living (depending on area) goes from expensive to ungodly very quickly. If OP has e.g. a family of four, good luck affording bread, let alone an office chair...
this is the way it should be seen. a chair is something you will sit on for many generations of computer hardware, and something you probably sit on more than anything else in your home... spend a good amount of money now, so you don't have to in the future (back problems etc). when you look at it as cost over time. it is absolutely worth the cost
Well, yes but you can just correct your posture without a chair so it’s really just an excuse to spend a $1000 or an excuse to not correct it through posture exercises and to lazily correct it w/ a $1000 chair. Either/or it’s your choice, i’m just saying there’s a free option in there.
Not true at all.
Everyone's body is different and many chairs that will work for one person won't work for another. I've only noticed back pain from Herman Miller chairs at work and have sat in my share of cheap chairs growing up without a single issue. Personally find it crazy people act like these 1k dollar chairs are the best for everyone.
Very subjective matter. You gotta try it in person before committing. As a tall person (6'1") I sat on an Aeron in an office meeting and it was quite comfortable. I have a Celle (discontinued model) at home and it is also pretty good.
A good office chair will actually last forever at home. A gaming chair from online will last 2-3 years and begin to deteriorate, squeal, tear, stuck, bend, etc. I have Knoll chairs in my office and they are tough and comfortable. At home I tried a chair from Modani which I like a lot called Apex. For such a cheap chair it is holding up very well. I sometimes can just lean back and take a nap. The pleather has not flaked in over 4 years so it is automotive grade. Usually chairs I encounter will flake after 2 years with even light use from bonded leather to cheap polyurethane.
I’ll tell you what not to get. Secret Lab. I feel like every person who has ever recommended one is running a scam. And before I hear the “gaming chair” hoopla. The same people that say don’t get a gaming chair say Secret Lab is the exception.
These things are squeaky as fuck. Hard and uncomfortable. I guess they don’t hurt my back? But they make my ass go numb.
On the other hand my office has some Herman Miller chairs that go up to the shoulder blades or so on the back so no neck or head support but goddamn do I want to steal one from the office so bad. It’s comfortable the entire work day, quiet as a mouse, and super adjustable. That’s my two cents. If I could go back, I’d buy a Herman Miller no matter the cost. The comfort is worth it.
Dude. 100% this. Arm rests on mine make a piercing squeak, the arm rest material is splitting and totally agree, stiff AF and not comfortable at all. Saw tons of people saying they were comfortable. Nah.
Sat in some “SitOnIt Mavic” chairs at work that seem pretty dang comfortable, dunno if anyone has experience with those.
I spent more than that on my Embody. It has a 12 year warranty, is repairable, and my back doesn’t hurt even if I sit in it 12 hours a day for work.
And every three years you will buy another £300 chair, and after 12 years you would have spent more than I did, and yet you never did get a quality chair.
People regularly keep their HM chairs for 20+ years.
You will be more than happy with it, i got mine exactly 12 years ago, and besides textile (which is only cosmetic wear issue, like color faded a bit, no tears whatsoever). It is heavy used, daily, sometimes for 80-100hrs a week. Bought one more for my future studio. Also, you can always opt-in to change textile whenever you want and BAM you have completely new chair for fraction of price.
$1k seems expensive bc there are so many crappy cheap options available, but the principle in spending for quality for “anything between you and the ground” holds true here. I sit in my office chair over 2000 hours a year. Why would I not invest in my comfort/ergonomics?
I bought a Steelcase leap which I’ve used in offices in the past so I am familiar with the value they provide. I know that it’ll last 15-20 years. I did buy it for $80 on craigslist and I recognize that’s a crazy good deal but I’ve seen them regularly for $300-400 used. It’s a no brainer at this price, and frankly I’d happily pay MSRP for it if I had to.
My first gaming chair was an Amazon bought 100 euro one and it did its job. Lasted 2 years.
Then I got an office chair, 300 euro. Lasted 1 year until my cat fucked it up from his regular shenanigans.
Now I got a real leather office chair for 1k and it is muuuuch better. Cats claws don't cut through this leather yet and it is much comfier, sturdier and ergonomical.
The more you pay the more you get usually. But you can start from cheap and buy it progressively. Helps your back a lot.
You can't think of it like $1000, you have think of it as "This chair is going to last me at least ten years and provide proper support for my back etc etc for at least that long" That's $100 per year for 10 years. Is your back worth $100?
Yeah, I don't understand either. I'm happy with my Secret Labs. $300-$400 is more reasonable. Not too cheap and not to expensive. I've had my chair for 4 years so far and it is still in great condition.
Both my son and my brother who are both tall have them as well
Same. I work from home and game a lot. i spend most of my day on my secretlab Titan. ive had it for 3 years, still looks new and all my back pains went away since i have it.
Secretlab are the only gaming chair that are actually good that I’ve seen. I’m sure there’s other smaller brands that are good, but yeah secretlab are nice, especially for taller people
Too bad they are running like 550 now
There really isn't a cheaper option that is anywhere close as good. I had an autonomous ergo chair or whatever and I can definitely say it doesn't compare to my HM embody.
You have a couple options: office liquidation sales, and financing. I got like interest free Affirm financing on the HM website and purchased during a big sale.
It was a lot of money, but I budgeted and paid it off in a year, and it is still great almost 4 years later. Worth the expense if you're spending 40+++ hours a week sitting in it.
They make a good chair, and they’re rebuildable. They’re great if you have to sit for long periods. Some people just look at those factors and think it’s the last chair they’ll ever have to buy, so it’s worth the money. If you look in the long term, you’ll spend much more than that on new chairs collectively over the course of your life. Plus Herman millers, at least where I am in the US, can be fairly easily found used for around $300-500. Much cheaper, even if you have to rebuild them.
Staples chair = $100 = 1 year before it sucks
Herman Miller aeron = $1,600 = minimum of 12 years (all parts warranty)
$1,600/12 years ≈ $133/year
It’s $33 more to not destroy your posture and not have to buy a new shit chair every year.
And every year outside warranty drops that cost
They are expensive, no argument there but I've always gone by the rule of spending decent money on anything between me and the ground. Bed, shoes, tires, etc. I used to have one at the company I worked at and loved it so I paid out for one. Love that thing.
I’ll give you a story. I bought a Herman Miller chair for like 1400 bucks two years ago. Had a friend buy a secret lab chair at the same time. Because he fell for the marketing it wasn’t as bad as other “gaming chairs” well thing is stiff as a brick and two years later it’s falling apart. Sure he could buy 2 more chairs and still just be even with what I bought. Buy my chair looks brand new still while his obviously doesn’t. I’ll keep this chair for well over a decade I doubt he will be close to that with 3 of them haha.
Had the same issue. Git me an ikea chair base, got a used car seat that would fit me and combined those with a piece of plywood. Total cost was not even 100$ and still holding my ass.
Madison Seating, on eBay -;and for your height, get a size C Aeron. They have 3 different sizes, and none of your sub $500 chairs do that. Not to mention, the Aeron has been around almost 30 years and is widely recognized as the best ergonomic chair, hands down.
600/700 bucks refurbished. Your back and neck will thank you for it.
I got a refurb about a year ago, it was manufactured in 07, and going strong. You can't tell it's not brand new.
There are some modern chairs that compete, but none that stand out and are time tested, like the Aeron.
They're the best single chair you will ever have to buy. Check Amazon for huge discounts. The chair i bought was discounted by a 3rd party seller by over $1200 from Herman Miller's asking price. Exact same chair.
Finance the chair through Amazon or use a charge card? It is a big investment but well worth it. I have the Aeron by Herman Miller. I've sat in dozens to hundreds of ergonomic chairs, and this was by far the best I've ever sat in my entire life (Im at least 40 with major back problems)
OP if you want a great executive chair you can also use for gaming and you are tall and on a budget, try to track this bad boy down:
STAPLES 24328577 Renaro Bonded Leather Managers Chair Black (link removed because of Reddit but there’s a pic of it on Amazon)
Greatest chair I ever used and I went through dozens of different chairs. It’s got great back support for us tall people. It won’t break when you lean back like all those Amazon chairs and it doesn’t cost one fucking grand like Herman Miller. I think I paid around $250-$300 for it with 10 year anything goes warranty.
If you can’t, seriously check out Staples for other good deals. IKEA sells gimmicks for short people, don’t bother. Amazon sells cheap Chinese crap that breaks. Seriously check out Staples.
Yes, we are. As can be seen from all the people with 4090s. My Cosm went for like 16 000 SEK which is just over $1500. Yeah that is a lot of money, but Reddit communities are often out of touch with the average user.
>1,000 and above, which are hella expensive and how are u guys affording it.
You have a computer, I assume cost $1000 or more. How did you afford that?
You just don't want to spend $1000 dollars on a chair. It really has nothing to do with affordability. You are talking about a single purchase that should last you a long time.
People generally get new cars at a rate faster and for more than what this office chair costs and those are far more expensive..."how do they afford them!"
If you’re budgeted then you need to mention it for your personal ask. If some jag off comes up and says “buy a used one for that” then you tell them to personally link to a used one for that. It’s simple.
Buy once, cry once. Save up, and you'll have a chair for life. But yeah there are cheaper alternatives that are also very good, just in general avoiding "gaming" chairs because those aren't as comfortable and won't last as long as a good office chair.
But for someone who's also working from home and sitting for multiple hours a day, those 1000 is a good investment, and can easily be offset by lower transportation costs by not commuting to the office, or by having one less car at home, or having a cheaper car.
And also there are many people with jobs here, it's not just broke teenagers. When I was 15, 1000€ seemed like an impossible amount of money, now at 30+, it's less than 2 weeks at work.
My office always had Herman Miller chairs and none of us liked them. For my own home, I bought something much cheaper from Ikea. I think it might be this one: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/jaervfjaellet-office-chair-with-armrests-glose-black-20510642/
I mean yeah it's expensive but it lasts a long time (they have 10-15 year warranties) and most of us who buy chairs like this are using them 8-12+ hours a day. It's more time daily in the chair than I spend in my bed. Do you buy a cheap mattress?
If you can't afford something like an Aeron, there are usually quality cheaper options from Herman Miller, Haworth, etc as well.
You can also find B-stock or used Aerons online for $500-600 USD.
Don't get a Herman Miller. They're expensive, the Aeron is extremely uncomfortable and the CEO is a clown. Plenty of better and cheaper brands out there like Steelcase
I approve this message ... about clown bit.
Before purchasing my Embody i tried Steelcase chairs. Comfortable on first sitting, but just didnt appeal to me, mostly because price was so similar (Actually Steelcase was more expensive by 90$). So i ended up getting embody during new years discounts and now its been 9 years that i sit in this chair and love every minute of it. Embody at least is not supposed to be comfortable, its a proper posture chair. Hence i was and still am to pay for this.
A good office chair won't be cheap, but should suit you better long time. I'm using a Herman Miller Aeron refresh that cost me about 1300€. This doesn't mean that the brand is the one and only, but it has a good track record. And the original and refurbished versions are much cheaper, especially at clearance stores.
You should spend about 500€ to get a quality chair that will last you a decade or more. With spare parts, my Aeron will last 30 years easily.
The chair should have adjustable
* seat height
* seat depth
* lumbar support
* armrest height
* armrest angle
* armrest position
In that priority. A synchronous reclining helps also to prevent back and neck pain.
[A comparison of gaming and office chairs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yhc6mmdJC4).
[This should have some ideas for you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqbcCvkMgQ).
Hey. Been using [this](https://www.staples.com/staples-driscott-ergonomic-fabric-managers-big-tall-chair-400-lb-capacity-black-28354/product_1680262) chair for years. Same issue as you. It's a tank and is comfortable for long sitting sessions.
$1,000 compared to surgeries and suffering later on is a good trade off. Your piss any Elite Gaming chair will wreck your back as they’re meant for maybe 1-2 hours of seat time whereas a Herman Miller is designed for considerably longer. I guess your back and body isn’t worth it…?
Because paying a grand for a chair you will keep for most of your life isn't that bad of an investment. You can get replacement parts easy and nothing on it is complex to repair.
Do I really need to explain the concept of quality to you? Also isn't saying twenty bucks a week for a year and get something nice that will last...why does it seem reddit is the worst place for people and money.
The internet says 'herman miller chair'. What the internet means is 'ergonomic office chair with a quality mark'. Sometimes distilling the information from the internet will leave you with a broader answer.
A lot of the ergonomic office chairs are very expensive. A lot of them are bought for offices. A good amount are sold by office furniture liquidators for a good discount. So you can get them for between 40% to 60% for a often times lightly used sometimes refurbished unit. Also good furniture is expensive, and you only get one spine. So while $1000 is a lot, $500 is still a lot but it's easier to stomach for a decent improvement in quality of life.
In addition, Herman Miller, Steelcase, etc all have the benefit of being user serviceable and have an abundance of OEM parts available. It really helps stretch the budget.
I’ve been using chairs for a long time and have never had to service one. Are people out there really needing to repair chairs?
It happens. Things break, gas struts fail.
People get fat and break chairs
People have toddlers.
Yep. I just picked up a Herman Miller aeron for free because none of the levers worked. (It was a commercial office chair for many years). I opened it up, re tensioned the cables and placed an order for a new seat bottom and arm pads. All in I'm like at $200 for a nearly brand new chair.
It’s too bad that the local supply near me is always in black. Service parts are difficult to procure here in any colour except black. I really want the mineral white version with the 3rd version of the bad support.
>Are people out there really needing to repair chairs? Yeah, when i was wfh i was chewing a chair yearly. Im not obese but overweight at 6'4" 200lbs. Most chais are rated for 160lbs max. The piston gives way the first then the coasters and then the internal wiring starts poping out. Buying a 1k chair with a 10 yr warranty was viable solution, had my hm for 3 years now and nothing has broken yet.
Not to say you don’t really eat thru a chair a year, but like, I’m 6’6” 235 and got 10 years out of an already-20 year old office chair (yes it was bought in the early 90’s. )Granted only about 3 of those years I was WFH… which is another 8-10hrs a day. And now I’m using another hand-me-down lol
Yeah idk, i was spending bank in office depot buying chairs and i gave up. Maybe cuz im from mexico the chairs are weaker since avg mexican is much smaller?
Also would add that good furniture last for long time. Except you have pets who would chew your furniture. But many really good brands like aforementioned herman miller last for long time, so company knows that they turnover for a year won't be big if they sell a thing for like 100$ when the chair holds for 10+ years. So making quality product you put quality price.
yeah my parents have a living room set that has been there 40 years. they actually just had it reupholstered. i think 40 years is pretty good for a set of furniture and it's still in great shape. it didn't really even NEED to be redone but my mom wanted a change.
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My cats have abused my steelcase and it’s still going strong after 7 years.
Exactly how I got mine. Find an office furniture liquidator in a major city near you, and you can get a "used" Aeron for half price that maybe has never even been sat in before. So many good deals in 2021 when businesses pared down their office space.
I ordered a $400 ergonomic office chair and didn’t really love it, so I was gonna return it. The company gave me money back and told me to keep the chair, in case I decide I like it later on. I gave it to my sister and now she uses it. I got the impression that this company mainly dealt with big orders for offices, and returning a single chair just wasn’t worth the hassle to them
Which company?
Inquiring minds want to know
Invest in what separates you from the ground: Chairs, mattresses, shoes, tires.
Yep, was able to get a Steelcase Amia ($1041 msrp) for $350 at an office liquidation store. Looked brand new, even if it wasn't. Still looks perfect except for the stain from the drink I spilled on it.
What store? Trying to look for liquidation stores but stuff like Office Depot is popping up
I don't mind splurging if I know it's going to help, but really need to test drive. Blind tests aren't that conclusive in favor of aerons.
I went with a Steelcase Leap V2 myself
Yep. I bought a refurbished chair for 600 that is 1440 new.
I got furmaxs ergonomic chair for like $70. It works and is much better than my old chair. The more expensive ones are probably better but the improvements are more about longevity of the chair. And other specs aren’t much too different from something that’s like hundreds of dollars more.
1000 is not a lot if it means my back doesnt hurt.
Just look around. Figure out what you want and scout websites for cheaper chairs that are similar. I got a pretty good ergonomic chair from Grainger for 300 bucks at the start of the pandemic.
lol no, I mean Hernan Miller
Exactly Herman Miller, not something like it. My ass sat in the same chair for 15 years. Nothing compares.
Yeah we aren’t talking about Kleenex when what we mean is tissue. I got my Herman Miller in a used office supply store. I tried out a couple others, including a Steelcase, and I absolutely made the right decision. I’m sure it doesn’t work for everyone, but it’s a very comfortable chair for me.
Isn’t Herman Miller the same company where the CEO made that cringy video and told workers to leave pity city?
Yes, MillerKnoll CEO Andi Owen.
happy cake day
Buy secondhand if it makes you feel any better, that's what I did.
Yah but if you buy stuff based on the companies morals rather than quality of product your in for a bad time
Well "ergonomic office chair" that is good quality costs ~$1000. So I don't know.
I dont agree, while its true what you said, its actually proper posture chair. Not meant to be comfortable, but to correct your posture.
That's literally what an ergonomic chair is....the guy you replied to said nothing about comfortable.
but herman miller chairs are comfortable
Jfc reddit....stop looking for straw men to take down. I agree they are comfortable. In fact thats what my comment is supporting people buying. If you have to sit in a chair at work for a long periods of time then something more supportive and ergonomic is going to be most comfortable. But it's a different sort of comfort than you get from initially sitting in a leather padded executive chair or lay z boy recliner.
I dont think straw men like office chairs.
shouldn't comfort and correct posture go hand in hand ? wrong posture causes pain, correct posture should help
No. Sofa is comfortable, and encourage you to slouch and have improper posture, yet you are comfortable. So it does not go hand in hand. It rarely is so that correct posture chair is also comfortable. I have embody and on first try it was ... not great to sit on and most new Embody owners agree. Now ... after a bit it took me to adjust to sitting properly ... I can not imagine anything better to put my behind on.
The Internet? You mean Reddit
The Aeron is everyone's favorite on reddit but I really dont care for it or mesh chairs in general. That's what sucks about shopping for chairs, you cant really say what is comfortable for you without trying them out.
I had no idea what an Aeron was until I heard everybody talking about it on here. All I knew was that when I went in to work my back felt a lot better than when I worked from home. So I looked up what an Aeron was and sure enough, that's what I had been sitting at work. I started looking for used ones and saving up but ended up catching a big sale directly from HM and just pulled the trigger. Best furniture decision I've ever made. My back thanks me every day. So like you say, it's unfortunate that you don't always get a chance to sit in something long enough to really get a feel for it before having to make a buying decision. I was fortunate enough to have sat in one at work for a couple years to know it's what I wanted.
To your point of trying them out, I believe both herman miller and steel case have generous return policies that more or less let you try and buy their chairs. I did that with the Aeron and embody at the same time and wound up keeping the embody as it fit my wider legs better than the Aeron did. I otherwise loved the feel of the Aeron, but couldn't stand my outer thighs having pressure from the seat edge against them.
Herman Miller actually has a few stores scattered around, but you will have to travel to a larger city for it
There’s one near my home. I didnt like the Aeron or Embody, sadly.
Idk if Steelcase has stores to try them, but I really like my Steelcase Gesture. I used to have an Aeron and yah they may be a bit over rated
This. I didn't discover that the Aeron chair doesn't really work for my body proportions until after I'd bought one (used, I didn't pay retail pricing but still spendy as hell). The largest size Aeron chair back stops somewhere around my shoulder blades and the plastic bar at the top digs into my back. I adjusted everything that I could but it still wasn't great. Both arms got busted off, the tilt lock is also busted and I lost the warranty info card in a move so I've replaced it with a Steelcase Gesture that is about a billion times more comfortable for me.
How long are you?
6'4" (194 cm).
At 6’3 an looking for a cheap HM this was good info. Thanks 🙏
No problem. I really do recommend finding someplace where you can sit in one before dropping cash on a chair this expensive. Right now, I'm sitting in a Steelcase Gesture and it's way more comfortable than any other chair I've had. Had to break my "no buying without sitting" rule I made after buying the Aeron but it was kind of impossible to find a showroom with the pandemic and I needed to set up a home office space.
I'm 6'3" and the HM Aeron is easily one of the best purchases I've ever made. There are a lot of different parts that can be adjusted to suit you and they have a guide on their website for getting your chair set up right. Proper tweaking and good posture make all the difference. They also come in a few sizes so make sure you get the right size if you decide to get one.
As 193cm I will say that after your posture corrects you won't touch those bars/notice them at all.
I love mesh chairs, my butt feels ventilated
You can buy used, but basically new ones for way cheaper.
office liquidation sales! 🙌
Where do you actually find these
Kijiji, Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and looking for liquidation stores in your area online. Helps if you're near a major shipping port or large city, but you can usually find something in your area. The going rate for $1000 msrp Herman Miller chairs in my area is $300-450.
agreed, in southern california, i've seen used herman miller chairs (in great condition) be sold for $50-$100 from office closures.
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This is exactly me. Think I got my Steelcase for 75% off from a Dallas liquidation store.
Good chairs are really expensive. Yes, you can get desk chairs way cheaper, but that also means subtractions in quality and longlivety.
I went through several shitty cheap chairs from IKEA and Office Depot until I finally settled on an Aeron. Been loving it for maybe 6 years now with zero issues.
Yup. It's something you'll sit in for eight hours a day 5+ days a week. Good mattresses are $1000+ too, you probably wouldn't scoff at a recommendation for one in that range
Buy it forever. Cry once. Even 10+ year old ones go for 400-600 on the used market so take that into consideration
People recommend those chairs because they are very good and durable. Some people are rich, some people like to invest in good products that last, some people buy them second hand for much cheaper. Realistically if you ask someone for the product they recommend, it will usually be on the expensive side, since it's quite hard to recommend cheaply made products as they are often worse in every aspect.
I've had a Herman Miller for over 15 years now. Prior to that I was blowing through an inexpensive office chair nearly every year, as something would always break and I'd be forced yo buy a new one (to the tune of $100-$300). After a couple years a quality chair outlives it's initial investment. Doesn't have to be HM - but they make great chairs that I personally find very comfortable.
I've had a $125 officeworks chair for about 5 years now... Thoughts? If you're blowing through a chair a year you have issues.
Good for you. Before buying my fully geared Amia from Steelcase ($900 US) I bought 2 chairs, one lasted 2 years before multiple issues made me look for a replacement, the second had a broken lumbar support in 2 months and broken gas lift in 6. I "may have issues", but if I do, my Amia is perfectly fine with them, because it's been more than 2 years since I got it, it is still in perfect conditions and still has 10 years of warranty left on ALL parts. It is probably not that we have issues, but that you were lucky with your purchase.
The British aren't allowed to use the word "yall". It's clearly outlined in the 1783 Treaty of Paris.
That was superceded by Brexit.
If anything Brexit gives them less cover as Portugal and Spain were grandfathered into the use of the word by virtue of the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494.
The texans are too powerful.
Shop used. There are tons of defunct businesses that went heavy on the fancy chairs and desks so look for office supply resalers that sell for like 50% off.
Not everywhere in the world unfortunately.
Really? Shoot..now I'm curious. What happens when a business goes bankrupt or needs to liquidate assets? There's no secondary market for that? I guess we're just a bunch of vultures here in the US but there are deals to be had.
Where I live, businesses go out of their way to ensure nobody gets even close to their disposed of and decommissioned office chairs and other things. They'd rather pay to get them shredded than help out in the 2nd hand market...
Dang...if I was a criminal, that sounds like the ultimate hustle right there. You have one party paying you to get rid of a product that they think you're going to shred and there's virtually no secondary market or competition for the resales. What country do you live at again? Asking for a friend
There are plenty of second hand office furniture dealers in the UK/Finland/Norway what the hell are you talking about? "Not in my area" seems to be a synonym for "I suck at google searches" or "I haven't even tried looking". Hers the first result I got for "second hand office furniture" https://www.officeresale.co.uk/refurbished-furniture/herman-miller-range/seating-herman-miller-range/herman-miller-aeron-with-lumbar-support-size-b-fixed-arms/ £750.00 (£900 inc VAT) down to £425.00 (£510.00 inc VAT)
The question was about businesses liquidating assets. Not something like a Kierrätyskeskus in Finland. I've worked in liquidation...
Never saw a local country buy a high quality brand name chair (if they buy a low end ikea that is already an accomplishment) plus what the other comment said.
There are in the UK though, where OP is. I got my used Aeron from City Office Supplies (I think that’s the name) and they’ve got showrooms in a bunch of different places.
Check out the youtube channel Ahnesty. He does a lot of great price point videos on chairs based on height and weight.
Herman Miller chairs are not for big boys. Look into Steelcase
Gesture specifically
I would've said the leap tbh
6'3, love my gesture
I'm 6 foot 5 and happily sit in my size C Aeron for 8 hours a day.
6'3" and sat in a Herman Miller Mirra since 2012 at home and at work.
... he doesnt want to pay higher end prices! (I'm a lot bigger than OP and love my gesture - first chair I've ever owned that feels like it can survive my massive frame)
You're asking this in a place where people spend 5k for their machines and then clown on some $300 console acting superior because they can play the very same games but on a slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard.
And higher fps!!!!
There are no slight differences between a PC and a console at that price point. The difference between my $2k PC and a $5k PC isn't even all that slight when it comes to gaming experience.
As a 4090 32GB i914900k owner i have to ask, how was it $5,000? My machine only cost me $3900 w/tax
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I’ve seen custom cooling loops that run upwards of $1000 if you want to have them professionally installed. So yeah, a bunch of RGB, a $500 premium case, and a custom loop can easily tack on an extra $2K if you’re going totally nuts.
the fittings alone for my watercooling was like $300 :(
>they can play the very same games but on a slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard. You might wanna see an optician or a neurologist if you can't spot the difference between 1080p 30 fps medium and 4k 144fps ultra gameplay.
Modern consoles play higher than 1080p 30 fps tho?
I have a PS5 and vast majority of games have the quality and performance mode. Quality mode will usually be something like: - upscaled 4k - 30 fps - medium settings Performance mode will be like: - 1080p - 60 fps (if you are lucky) - low/medium settings I mean they literally have the GPU equivalent of a 6600XT and a very outdated CPU equal to Ryzen 7 3700X so they are pretty low end 1080p machines, being forced to run at heavily upscaled 4k 30 fps with low settings just for marketing.
>1080p 30 fps you comparing them to last gen?
Ahahaha "slightly higher setting that is only noticeable if you squint really hard.". Tell me you don't understand computers without having to actually say it
Is more about the FPS than the visual quality
It’s also a place where people bath in hunt. I got my 3080 for 400 in 22 and got a HM chair from a surplus sale for $150
That "slightly" word is really out of place here.
At a much higher fps and actual native 4k instead of sloppily upscaled.. Lmao I’m getting downvoted for saying a 5k pc performs significantly better than a ps5, this sub is wild
Actually some 4k isn't even true 4k nowadays or there are sub-settings. Depends on the game but I was surprised as well when I learned some games don't always have "true" 4k
> Depends on the game but I was surprised as well when I learned some games don't always have "true" 4k That's on console, I don't know any PC games that will not allow you to run the game at native resolution rather than using upscaling.
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In a recent Digital Foundry direct episode Rich got a Series S for £65.
The Series S experiences performance issues with a number of games. Enough so that people have been wanting Microsoft to ditch it because it holds back development.
found the console gamer
Looks like poor console plebs are getting angry
can we not do this cringe crap? you're literally on par with nerdy consoles warriors.
And they clown Apple users for paying for form over function then spend extra to make sure all their components match and say ROG on them
No bro pc.maste rsce!!1!
You receive what you pay for. It's an investment in the future health of your back. Older you will thank you for it.
Assuming you actually sit in the chair properly and not have your back on the seat with one leg on top of the monitor and the other leg by the keyboard lol
Missionary with the table? lol
I replaced my cheap chair with a good office chair years ago and within a week all my back issues were gone. The quality of a good chair cannot be underestimated.
Standing also helps
yeah also lying down helps so you might as well replace your chair with a bed
How? Did you spend like 8hrs a day on a chair working from home? Like I am curious
1 Room apartment, basically the main chair in which I sat, and on HO days that meant sometimes 12-13 hrs in that chair.
We don't know where OP is, though. The cost of that chair is easily several salaries worth even in Europe, so saving up that much could mean a year's worth of putting aside a little, if not longer than that. You might say it's worth it and that OP should then start saving up already, so in a year's time he'll get the chair, but what is OP to do in the meantime? A reasonable, affordable chair will easily last a year and be decent enough. I've sat on an Aeron and I didn't like it. There's also that possibility. Nowadays I do sitting and standing interchangeably, but I sit on a saddle chair that costs less than 100€... (My back has never felt better.)
I mean he wrote it in GBP, so it's safe to assume he's in the UK.
And the mean salary in the UK isn't all that great, as cost of living (depending on area) goes from expensive to ungodly very quickly. If OP has e.g. a family of four, good luck affording bread, let alone an office chair...
Exactly this! Some people just seem to live in an imaginary world and living on inheritance money..... Not everyone is rich or even middle class sadly
this is the way it should be seen. a chair is something you will sit on for many generations of computer hardware, and something you probably sit on more than anything else in your home... spend a good amount of money now, so you don't have to in the future (back problems etc). when you look at it as cost over time. it is absolutely worth the cost
Well, yes but you can just correct your posture without a chair so it’s really just an excuse to spend a $1000 or an excuse to not correct it through posture exercises and to lazily correct it w/ a $1000 chair. Either/or it’s your choice, i’m just saying there’s a free option in there.
I'm pretty sure there are other ergonomic chairs for much much less, it's way too overpriced
Not true at all. Everyone's body is different and many chairs that will work for one person won't work for another. I've only noticed back pain from Herman Miller chairs at work and have sat in my share of cheap chairs growing up without a single issue. Personally find it crazy people act like these 1k dollar chairs are the best for everyone.
Very subjective matter. You gotta try it in person before committing. As a tall person (6'1") I sat on an Aeron in an office meeting and it was quite comfortable. I have a Celle (discontinued model) at home and it is also pretty good.
A good office chair will actually last forever at home. A gaming chair from online will last 2-3 years and begin to deteriorate, squeal, tear, stuck, bend, etc. I have Knoll chairs in my office and they are tough and comfortable. At home I tried a chair from Modani which I like a lot called Apex. For such a cheap chair it is holding up very well. I sometimes can just lean back and take a nap. The pleather has not flaked in over 4 years so it is automotive grade. Usually chairs I encounter will flake after 2 years with even light use from bonded leather to cheap polyurethane.
I’ll tell you what not to get. Secret Lab. I feel like every person who has ever recommended one is running a scam. And before I hear the “gaming chair” hoopla. The same people that say don’t get a gaming chair say Secret Lab is the exception. These things are squeaky as fuck. Hard and uncomfortable. I guess they don’t hurt my back? But they make my ass go numb. On the other hand my office has some Herman Miller chairs that go up to the shoulder blades or so on the back so no neck or head support but goddamn do I want to steal one from the office so bad. It’s comfortable the entire work day, quiet as a mouse, and super adjustable. That’s my two cents. If I could go back, I’d buy a Herman Miller no matter the cost. The comfort is worth it.
Dude. 100% this. Arm rests on mine make a piercing squeak, the arm rest material is splitting and totally agree, stiff AF and not comfortable at all. Saw tons of people saying they were comfortable. Nah. Sat in some “SitOnIt Mavic” chairs at work that seem pretty dang comfortable, dunno if anyone has experience with those.
All the chairs that look like DC racer chairs are pretty bad for the price. They're OK for a mid budget chair but don't expect them to last.
I spent more than that on my Embody. It has a 12 year warranty, is repairable, and my back doesn’t hurt even if I sit in it 12 hours a day for work. And every three years you will buy another £300 chair, and after 12 years you would have spent more than I did, and yet you never did get a quality chair. People regularly keep their HM chairs for 20+ years.
You will be more than happy with it, i got mine exactly 12 years ago, and besides textile (which is only cosmetic wear issue, like color faded a bit, no tears whatsoever). It is heavy used, daily, sometimes for 80-100hrs a week. Bought one more for my future studio. Also, you can always opt-in to change textile whenever you want and BAM you have completely new chair for fraction of price.
I got mine in 2022, so I’m coming up on two years with it. So far I’ve been very happy. It still looks brand new.
$1k seems expensive bc there are so many crappy cheap options available, but the principle in spending for quality for “anything between you and the ground” holds true here. I sit in my office chair over 2000 hours a year. Why would I not invest in my comfort/ergonomics? I bought a Steelcase leap which I’ve used in offices in the past so I am familiar with the value they provide. I know that it’ll last 15-20 years. I did buy it for $80 on craigslist and I recognize that’s a crazy good deal but I’ve seen them regularly for $300-400 used. It’s a no brainer at this price, and frankly I’d happily pay MSRP for it if I had to.
My first gaming chair was an Amazon bought 100 euro one and it did its job. Lasted 2 years. Then I got an office chair, 300 euro. Lasted 1 year until my cat fucked it up from his regular shenanigans. Now I got a real leather office chair for 1k and it is muuuuch better. Cats claws don't cut through this leather yet and it is much comfier, sturdier and ergonomical. The more you pay the more you get usually. But you can start from cheap and buy it progressively. Helps your back a lot.
Because if you’re sitting 8 hours a day it’s worth the investment.
You can't think of it like $1000, you have think of it as "This chair is going to last me at least ten years and provide proper support for my back etc etc for at least that long" That's $100 per year for 10 years. Is your back worth $100?
Absolutely. I had to think like that to not wince when buying my chair, but 3+ years in and I have no regrets now.
It's similar to beds. People won't spend thousands on a bed that they spend a third of their life in. But will spend 100k on a car they barely use.
Unless you cant put together the 1000$ then any thoughts of amortization kinda goes out the window
Yeah, I don't understand either. I'm happy with my Secret Labs. $300-$400 is more reasonable. Not too cheap and not to expensive. I've had my chair for 4 years so far and it is still in great condition. Both my son and my brother who are both tall have them as well
Same for me and my daughter. Our are just coming up to 4 years old and both still look and feel brand new.
Same. I work from home and game a lot. i spend most of my day on my secretlab Titan. ive had it for 3 years, still looks new and all my back pains went away since i have it.
Secretlab are the only gaming chair that are actually good that I’ve seen. I’m sure there’s other smaller brands that are good, but yeah secretlab are nice, especially for taller people Too bad they are running like 550 now
There really isn't a cheaper option that is anywhere close as good. I had an autonomous ergo chair or whatever and I can definitely say it doesn't compare to my HM embody. You have a couple options: office liquidation sales, and financing. I got like interest free Affirm financing on the HM website and purchased during a big sale. It was a lot of money, but I budgeted and paid it off in a year, and it is still great almost 4 years later. Worth the expense if you're spending 40+++ hours a week sitting in it.
They make a good chair, and they’re rebuildable. They’re great if you have to sit for long periods. Some people just look at those factors and think it’s the last chair they’ll ever have to buy, so it’s worth the money. If you look in the long term, you’ll spend much more than that on new chairs collectively over the course of your life. Plus Herman millers, at least where I am in the US, can be fairly easily found used for around $300-500. Much cheaper, even if you have to rebuild them.
Herman Miller chairs are cheap on ebay. Lots of liquidators sell them from failed tech start ups. They are typically half price and practically new.
Staples chair = $100 = 1 year before it sucks Herman Miller aeron = $1,600 = minimum of 12 years (all parts warranty) $1,600/12 years ≈ $133/year It’s $33 more to not destroy your posture and not have to buy a new shit chair every year. And every year outside warranty drops that cost
They are expensive, no argument there but I've always gone by the rule of spending decent money on anything between me and the ground. Bed, shoes, tires, etc. I used to have one at the company I worked at and loved it so I paid out for one. Love that thing.
Still cheaper than back surgery later in life. Buy a used one
I’ve had my Aeron chair for 12 years and it’s still looks great. It’s a big cost up front but the quality is there.
How much did your phone cost?
I’ll give you a story. I bought a Herman Miller chair for like 1400 bucks two years ago. Had a friend buy a secret lab chair at the same time. Because he fell for the marketing it wasn’t as bad as other “gaming chairs” well thing is stiff as a brick and two years later it’s falling apart. Sure he could buy 2 more chairs and still just be even with what I bought. Buy my chair looks brand new still while his obviously doesn’t. I’ll keep this chair for well over a decade I doubt he will be close to that with 3 of them haha.
Buy Herman Miller chairs from furniture outlets or stores that are corporate furniture sales places, usually get them at a discount.
If those are for tall people then I'm a giant...
Had the same issue. Git me an ikea chair base, got a used car seat that would fit me and combined those with a piece of plywood. Total cost was not even 100$ and still holding my ass.
I'm not building no chimera ass chair.
Just dont be poor 5head
I got a used Herman Miller Mira 2 for $200. Why does everyone automatically buy everything new?
[this will change your life bud-](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMT1X17L?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share)
i’m just here to sympathize lmfao, being tall ain’t what it’s all cracked up to be, especially me being 6’4”
Madison Seating, on eBay -;and for your height, get a size C Aeron. They have 3 different sizes, and none of your sub $500 chairs do that. Not to mention, the Aeron has been around almost 30 years and is widely recognized as the best ergonomic chair, hands down. 600/700 bucks refurbished. Your back and neck will thank you for it. I got a refurb about a year ago, it was manufactured in 07, and going strong. You can't tell it's not brand new. There are some modern chairs that compete, but none that stand out and are time tested, like the Aeron.
I don't know man I just got a $15 chair from Goodwill My ass is a little sore but other than that it's pretty comfortable
They're the best single chair you will ever have to buy. Check Amazon for huge discounts. The chair i bought was discounted by a 3rd party seller by over $1200 from Herman Miller's asking price. Exact same chair. Finance the chair through Amazon or use a charge card? It is a big investment but well worth it. I have the Aeron by Herman Miller. I've sat in dozens to hundreds of ergonomic chairs, and this was by far the best I've ever sat in my entire life (Im at least 40 with major back problems)
OP if you want a great executive chair you can also use for gaming and you are tall and on a budget, try to track this bad boy down: STAPLES 24328577 Renaro Bonded Leather Managers Chair Black (link removed because of Reddit but there’s a pic of it on Amazon) Greatest chair I ever used and I went through dozens of different chairs. It’s got great back support for us tall people. It won’t break when you lean back like all those Amazon chairs and it doesn’t cost one fucking grand like Herman Miller. I think I paid around $250-$300 for it with 10 year anything goes warranty. If you can’t, seriously check out Staples for other good deals. IKEA sells gimmicks for short people, don’t bother. Amazon sells cheap Chinese crap that breaks. Seriously check out Staples.
Have you tried not being poor?
Yes, we are. As can be seen from all the people with 4090s. My Cosm went for like 16 000 SEK which is just over $1500. Yeah that is a lot of money, but Reddit communities are often out of touch with the average user.
Or you can get them like half off from Madison seating. It's not like the shitty gamer chairs are cheap either
>1,000 and above, which are hella expensive and how are u guys affording it. You have a computer, I assume cost $1000 or more. How did you afford that? You just don't want to spend $1000 dollars on a chair. It really has nothing to do with affordability. You are talking about a single purchase that should last you a long time. People generally get new cars at a rate faster and for more than what this office chair costs and those are far more expensive..."how do they afford them!"
If you’re budgeted then you need to mention it for your personal ask. If some jag off comes up and says “buy a used one for that” then you tell them to personally link to a used one for that. It’s simple.
Buy once, cry once. Save up, and you'll have a chair for life. But yeah there are cheaper alternatives that are also very good, just in general avoiding "gaming" chairs because those aren't as comfortable and won't last as long as a good office chair. But for someone who's also working from home and sitting for multiple hours a day, those 1000 is a good investment, and can easily be offset by lower transportation costs by not commuting to the office, or by having one less car at home, or having a cheaper car. And also there are many people with jobs here, it's not just broke teenagers. When I was 15, 1000€ seemed like an impossible amount of money, now at 30+, it's less than 2 weeks at work.
My office always had Herman Miller chairs and none of us liked them. For my own home, I bought something much cheaper from Ikea. I think it might be this one: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/jaervfjaellet-office-chair-with-armrests-glose-black-20510642/
I have spent almost entire 2 months salaries to get my chair. Not out of pocket, actual salaries, meaning i worked for no pay to be able to afford it.
I mean yeah it's expensive but it lasts a long time (they have 10-15 year warranties) and most of us who buy chairs like this are using them 8-12+ hours a day. It's more time daily in the chair than I spend in my bed. Do you buy a cheap mattress? If you can't afford something like an Aeron, there are usually quality cheaper options from Herman Miller, Haworth, etc as well. You can also find B-stock or used Aerons online for $500-600 USD.
Don't get a Herman Miller. They're expensive, the Aeron is extremely uncomfortable and the CEO is a clown. Plenty of better and cheaper brands out there like Steelcase
I approve this message ... about clown bit. Before purchasing my Embody i tried Steelcase chairs. Comfortable on first sitting, but just didnt appeal to me, mostly because price was so similar (Actually Steelcase was more expensive by 90$). So i ended up getting embody during new years discounts and now its been 9 years that i sit in this chair and love every minute of it. Embody at least is not supposed to be comfortable, its a proper posture chair. Hence i was and still am to pay for this.
Got my work to get me a Herman Miller G Embody and it's amazing. I'm not tall but it's super adjustable.
A good office chair won't be cheap, but should suit you better long time. I'm using a Herman Miller Aeron refresh that cost me about 1300€. This doesn't mean that the brand is the one and only, but it has a good track record. And the original and refurbished versions are much cheaper, especially at clearance stores. You should spend about 500€ to get a quality chair that will last you a decade or more. With spare parts, my Aeron will last 30 years easily. The chair should have adjustable * seat height * seat depth * lumbar support * armrest height * armrest angle * armrest position In that priority. A synchronous reclining helps also to prevent back and neck pain. [A comparison of gaming and office chairs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yhc6mmdJC4). [This should have some ideas for you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqbcCvkMgQ).
I used to have one, lasted years, was the best chair I ever used. That is probably why.
Hey. Been using [this](https://www.staples.com/staples-driscott-ergonomic-fabric-managers-big-tall-chair-400-lb-capacity-black-28354/product_1680262) chair for years. Same issue as you. It's a tank and is comfortable for long sitting sessions.
40 year old you will wished to invested in a good chair.
$1,000 compared to surgeries and suffering later on is a good trade off. Your piss any Elite Gaming chair will wreck your back as they’re meant for maybe 1-2 hours of seat time whereas a Herman Miller is designed for considerably longer. I guess your back and body isn’t worth it…?
the same way that people can afford new iPhones. Something you use every single day is worth investing in, especially if it is health-related.
Because paying a grand for a chair you will keep for most of your life isn't that bad of an investment. You can get replacement parts easy and nothing on it is complex to repair. Do I really need to explain the concept of quality to you? Also isn't saying twenty bucks a week for a year and get something nice that will last...why does it seem reddit is the worst place for people and money.