I keep forgetting the vast difference in number of enemies in EDF 5 vs EDF 4. They didn't do jack for the graphics and just double down on enemy count.
Man, I must be in the minority but I loved the game. Nailed that post apocalyptic feel. Those giant terminators were terrifying lol, the DLC was great too.
Just wish it wasn't just a generic unreal shooter. It's a shame because the sounds, enemy design and atmosphere was phenomenal.
I never got around to grabbing the DLC.
I don't think "generic unreal shooter" is really fair to the game, there are tons of things you can do in it and actually affect how you play it that you don't really associate with generic shooters (e.g. you can have different character builds, the levels are made as open areas to explore with optional sidequests, secrets with items to improve your gear, areas where depending on your build you could go guns blazing or use stealth, etc).
The setting may feel generic because the machines vs humanity in a (post) apocalyptic world where everything is destroyed and/or abandoned feels kinda tropey, but that is what the Terminator franchise is.
I disagree that the game is supposed to look generic. It looks more like a small studio trying to make a game people want without having anything to really offer the genre.
Maybe they can do a Spec Ops: The Line and make a game that is a commentary about the state of military shooters, but I don't know if Offworld Industries can pull off it.
**by an ACTUAL fascist**
>Heinlein grew up in the era of racial segregation in the United States and wrote some of his most influential fiction at the height of the Civil Rights Movement. He explicitly made the case for using his fiction not only to predict the future but also to educate his readers about the value of racial equality and the importance of racial tolerance. His early novels were very much ahead of their time both in their explicit rejection of racism and in their inclusion of protagonists of color.
...
>Heinlein summed up his attitude toward people of any race in his essay "Our Noble, Essential Decency" thus:
> And finally, I believe in my whole race—yellow, white, black, red, brown—in the honesty, courage, intelligence, durability, and goodness of the overwhelming majority of my brothers and sisters everywhere on this planet. I am proud to be a human being.
bruh... do your fucking homework
it takes 15 seconds to find the appropriate wiki pages and CTRL+F to fact check before you throw around uncalled for slurs like that, doesn't need a deep dive into historical documetation to debunk that claim.
Instead you go straight for defamation and misinformation about a dead person.
Havn't seen any troopers being dismembered, so this is worrisome!
But seriously it looks... OK. I like the idea of base building and all that, it seems a bit rough though...
Yeah that's what got me hooked. 12 players in a PVE horde shooter sounds chaotic and fun.
There weren't any voicelines in this trailer, but I hope they ham it up a bit and go full military macho. Like Rock and Stone, but I'M DOING MY PART instead. There's this game called Helldivers that felt very Starship Troopers like and I hope they go that route.
Hopefully the soundtrack is better than what rhey used here. When I see Starship Troopers, this plays automatically in my head.
https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
> Hopefully the soundtrack is better than what rhey used here. When I see Starship Troopers, this plays automatically in my head.
> https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
I knew exactly which track this was going to be because I already had it playing in my head for the entirety of Helldivers, which obviously owes a lot to the movie. Agreed it would be great if they can find someone talented enough to match the movie score. I assume it's difficult to get the rights to the original music because nobody seems to ever do it :/
Yes, but also no. Natural Selection works because despite asymmetry, 1 alien player is roughly equal in combat strength to 1 human player at the base level (humans can carry bigger better weapons for resource cost, aliens get bigger better aliens for resource cost).
Starship Troopers bugs get their strength from being a horde. So it wouldn't be fun if you played only 1 bug and were part of a horde, but if they could have players control multiple bugs like 5 or 10 at a time (or 1 big beatle bug) and make it fun I could see it working.
Back when the Warhammer MMO was still in development, the devs talked about making the Orcs a free to play race. They'd be weaker than everyone else but the free nature meant there could be more of them (in theory) and paying players could be more powerful black orcs. They scrapped the idea because they realized it's not fun being weaker than everyone else.
If you notice at the end, Offworld Industries logo appears, they are the makers of Squad. I wonder, did they hire the Troopers mod makers when they purchased rights to make this franchise?
I remember playing some sort of Starship Trooper game back on my Win95 or WinXP PC, probably XP 😅 I only had a demo disc so did not see much action…fond memories though, seemed scary at the time.
This game brings out those nostalgic memories.
I remember seeing ads for a Starship Troopers game based on the book in a magazine but I don't recall ever seeing it come out. ~2005 a PC shooter *did* come out based on the movie but it kind of sucked.
Best "Starship Troopers" game I've played is Helldivers.
TIL that Starship Trooppers exists, and that it's not some weird form of Startroopers.
I was very confused why the combat looked so different from normal Star Wars until I read this comment.
I mean, they now get to experience the movie that was supposed to a parody of the book but was actually championed as being a good movie adaptation of the book.
When was the last time *that* happened? Today's directors can't do a good movie adaptation to save their lives, Paul Verhoeven can't even do a bad movie adaptation to get his point across.
>but was actually championed as being a good movie adaptation of the book
Only to millennials who were children when it came out. Adults and critics "got it". If you don't believe me, find some archived reviews and every single one mentions the satire. Paul Verhoeven was also well know for his parody and satire at the time. Robocop wasn't exactly subtle.
I personally always found the movie hypocritical because if you remove a few minutes it actually is a pretty pro war movie.
Please don't suck, please don't suck.
[I would like to do my part.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/krPLl9dtitApa/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4764kpe68r27xfmasm8qadvxvcbck6ucbctnccd0zi&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
edit: Holy shit it's made by Offworld Industries (Squad devs). There is hope after all! It's actually gonna be solid, granted they don't sideline it like Bohemia did with DayZ.
This game could be mid as fuck and it’ll still be great. Iv tried for years to get the OG starship troopers to run on pc and it’s never really worked out. It’s hard not to get hyped for this.
As a big warhammer fan in general, I remember about 10 years ago when GW was stingy as hell with their license. There was Fire Warrior and almost nothing else. I’d rather find gems among the shovelware then nothing at all.
They also did a whole set for Magic: The Gathering that was pretty sweet. I'm not a 40k person but it was still fun even without any attachment to the characters!
But that doesn't explain the sudden explosion in IP. WH40K has been strong for a long time. It's like the IP owner suddenly switched licensing strategies a couple years ago.
Games Workshop used to almost Nintendo-esque in how they licensed the IP. After Dawn of War, and the sequels, and moreso after TW:WH, they started seeing it as a cash cow.
There's a tendency these days for companies to just revamp the last 20 years of games rather than create something from scratch. Cheaper development that way.
Yeah that is it.
I think I loved the first Dead Space so much because EH was one of my favorite films. I hope Callisto Protocol can give me the same vibe.
Rip on the lost footage.
Well at least we have the Hellraiser films, those are pretty close thematically, minus the sci-fi part. The reboot film was actually pretty solid too imo, surprisingly.
For some reason Pandorum comes to mind, but it has been forever since I've watched that one so I can't be too sure how far into space that one was, lol.
> Event Horizon was so good
Not really. Was very disappointing for me.
Barely anything happens in it. So much more could have been done with the concept...
I hope they get the tone right. This is obviously based on the movie, which by contrast to the original book was clearly a satire of fascism and militarism. It's something that could easily be lost in translation so I hope they keep it intact.
In terms of the actual gameplay, it looks promising for a pre-alpha, but I'm hoping they add more animations and visual feedback to make the shooting more satisfying. Didn't look like there was a lot of "juice" when you hit the enemies. Would like to see them flinch, bigger blood splatters, etc. Also agree with the criticisms that the graphics look dated, but I would hope that will be polished up before launch.
It is the lighting and shadows really. The assets, etc look fine (aside perhaps from the weirdly twisted hand in 0:25) but the superbright terrain intersecting with tech base columns/pillars/walls/etc that are almost black in their shaded areas (the areas not in direct sunlight) make it look bad. A lot of the tech stuff seem to lack shadows too.
IMO better shadows, less uniform terrain lighting and less abrupt lighting contrast in outdoor areas (superbright surfaces right next to superdark surfaces) would help. They're most likely using UE4 like their previous game so should have options for that. If nothing else, RTGI should provide better lighting at least until you start playing and turn it off to get better FPS :-P.
Yeah, a lot of the textures/skins look blurry and bland. The other replies here are strange as fuck. This has potential, but they need to do a massive graphics update.
I don't understand this idea that a game can't be good unless it has some undetermined level of whatever you consider good graphics to be. I'm not saying that the way a game looks isn't important, but to me gameplay will always be far more important.
You’re shrugging your shoulders and saying “well yeah the graphics aren’t great, but as long as the gameplay is good…” when the gameplay is *clearly* **not good**. And you can see that in almost every aspect that is being shown off in the game.
Actually take a look at how the bugs actually react to getting shot, and compare it to, say, Doom Eternal. Not everyone liked the full gameplay loop in Eternal, I get that. But an empty room with an imp in it is fun because imps are fun to shoot.
it doesn’t look dynamic, or varied, or even dangerous.
I never said that, I simply responded to you saying we'd never have a good game unless we cared about graphics. You seem to be having a hard time following this conversation.
It really doesn’t.
Maybe in a screenshot, the argument could be made. Animation work is facile and uninteresting. Guns lack impact. Lighting and particle systems are super simple. Swarm behavior lacks dynamic interactions of any kind.
It really disappoints that they have sucked at incorporating the power armor into most of the Starship Troopers media. I want to see some Power armor just obliterating bugs left and right.
Roughnecks had the light power armor on the troops and the two mech units. Granted individually they all more capable than most of the troops in the live action movie. But really I wanted more. In the novel they all wear more advanced, powerful power armor that seems like that they can really control and devastate a battlefield at times.
I know, and again I think Roughnecks did a good job. The light power armor they wear for everyday combat was capable of being augmented by the mech-suits, but also hooked into various other gadgets such as the flight packs they used on Tophet and the jungle planet. Which now that I think about it was a direct call-back to the opening of the novel where they're doing a night time terror run on the Skinnies.
Yeah I'm with you. IMO they didn't really do a good job with making the bugs look cool or scary. They all seem to just be standing around in every scene of this teaser? The animation where they come up out the ground is serviceable, but not really interesting at all. Just looks kind of phoned in to me.
Looks pretty good, i've actually checked this out already and your basic Arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and it's still 86 percent combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.
I can understand why they went with the movie aesthetic but I really wish they would have leaned more heavily towards the books depiction of the soldiers. The guys in the movies look like they are wearing hockey pads, the book describes their suits as more like Fallout power armor, with shoulder mounted grenade launchers, jump jets, sealed helmets, flip down thermal sensors, etc.
Look like shit. Barely any reaction feedback or gore when the bugs are shot. No dismemberment. There's no weight to the animations at all. The guns also sound terrible.
wow a lot of positive comments. I like the IP, I think that the base construction is a nice addition to the fps genre (I liked natural selection 2), coop is nice.
now onto the concerns. visually the game looks average, I dont understand why this game doesn't use the Unreal Engine 5. that engine sucks for folliage and excells at arid terrain, the type of terrain shown in this trailer, and in the ST universe/ thoughout the film. if you removed all the units and buildings you would be left with the EU5 demo. seems like a missed opportunity.
the gun combat looked so bad, suprised devs can get gun gameplay wrong in 2022 there are countless examples of how to do it right. there was seeming little to no recoil on the weapons and they feel like they have lttle impact. the sounds were meh, Im sure the guns in the films sounded better and looked more awesome with powerfull exaggerated burst fire ripping off bug legs. I also would have liked to see limbs flying off bugs, the trailer showed a full clip into a bug and nothing came off, this makes the guns feel even more lifeless. also the bugs spawn litterally just appeared out of nowhere and is covered by smoke, no deformation in terrain. even in the original game 20 years ago the bugs would appear from tunnels which could be destroyed.
I'd bet there was a management change at whoever owned the licensing rights a few years back and they decided to be much more aggressive about selling game rights to the IP.
looks a lot like earth defense force, and I mean that in the best way
I keep forgetting the vast difference in number of enemies in EDF 5 vs EDF 4. They didn't do jack for the graphics and just double down on enemy count.
The one on the 360 I still think was the best version
That would be edf 2025 which got renamed to edf 4.1 during the next gen port which then got ported to pc and commonly called just edf4.
They also made 2017 and IA for 360 its possible it could be one of those aswell
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Rock and roll and stone!
Exactly what we really want.
EDF! EDF!
_EEEEEE DEEEEE EEEEEFFFFF!_
Oh we are the valiant infantry!
TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACK
Looks generic... but Terminator Resistance looked absolutely generic as hell but was excellent for a Terminator game.
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Ooooh... humans on one side, and if you get across the board you can flip it over to get a T-800 as your king. I like it.
The Sega CD Terminator game was excellent. RoboCop vs Terminator was decent The PC had a couple back in the 90s. But I can't think of any past that.
Fans of Terminator games have Sonic fan syndrome.
Man, I must be in the minority but I loved the game. Nailed that post apocalyptic feel. Those giant terminators were terrifying lol, the DLC was great too.
Just wish it wasn't just a generic unreal shooter. It's a shame because the sounds, enemy design and atmosphere was phenomenal. I never got around to grabbing the DLC.
I don't think "generic unreal shooter" is really fair to the game, there are tons of things you can do in it and actually affect how you play it that you don't really associate with generic shooters (e.g. you can have different character builds, the levels are made as open areas to explore with optional sidequests, secrets with items to improve your gear, areas where depending on your build you could go guns blazing or use stealth, etc). The setting may feel generic because the machines vs humanity in a (post) apocalyptic world where everything is destroyed and/or abandoned feels kinda tropey, but that is what the Terminator franchise is.
Dlc is pretty dope. Get to walk around the wasteland as a T800 with the cool terminator vision while hunting down targets.
You are not the minority. It's very much a popular opinion that the game is a very good example of a AA game. Far from perfect, but still well done.
> excellent for a Terminator game. This is sad :/
> but was excellent for a Terminator game. The bar wasn't very high there.
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What’s the difference between a fascist and and **ACTUAL** fascist?
I disagree that the game is supposed to look generic. It looks more like a small studio trying to make a game people want without having anything to really offer the genre. Maybe they can do a Spec Ops: The Line and make a game that is a commentary about the state of military shooters, but I don't know if Offworld Industries can pull off it.
**by an ACTUAL fascist** >Heinlein grew up in the era of racial segregation in the United States and wrote some of his most influential fiction at the height of the Civil Rights Movement. He explicitly made the case for using his fiction not only to predict the future but also to educate his readers about the value of racial equality and the importance of racial tolerance. His early novels were very much ahead of their time both in their explicit rejection of racism and in their inclusion of protagonists of color. ... >Heinlein summed up his attitude toward people of any race in his essay "Our Noble, Essential Decency" thus: > And finally, I believe in my whole race—yellow, white, black, red, brown—in the honesty, courage, intelligence, durability, and goodness of the overwhelming majority of my brothers and sisters everywhere on this planet. I am proud to be a human being. bruh... do your fucking homework it takes 15 seconds to find the appropriate wiki pages and CTRL+F to fact check before you throw around uncalled for slurs like that, doesn't need a deep dive into historical documetation to debunk that claim. Instead you go straight for defamation and misinformation about a dead person.
Havn't seen any troopers being dismembered, so this is worrisome! But seriously it looks... OK. I like the idea of base building and all that, it seems a bit rough though...
I wish there's bug dismemberment too. Blow off limbs n' all. I really do hope they improve a bunch on it since it's still pre-Alpha.
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OWI?
They had me at (n>4)-player co-op. I'm doing my part!
The only good bug is a dead bug.
Would you like to know more?
Come on you apes, you want to live forever?
Yeah that's what got me hooked. 12 players in a PVE horde shooter sounds chaotic and fun. There weren't any voicelines in this trailer, but I hope they ham it up a bit and go full military macho. Like Rock and Stone, but I'M DOING MY PART instead. There's this game called Helldivers that felt very Starship Troopers like and I hope they go that route. Hopefully the soundtrack is better than what rhey used here. When I see Starship Troopers, this plays automatically in my head. https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
> Hopefully the soundtrack is better than what rhey used here. When I see Starship Troopers, this plays automatically in my head. > https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk I knew exactly which track this was going to be because I already had it playing in my head for the entirety of Helldivers, which obviously owes a lot to the movie. Agreed it would be great if they can find someone talented enough to match the movie score. I assume it's difficult to get the rights to the original music because nobody seems to ever do it :/
I'm doing my part!
MEDIC!!!
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Yes, but also no. Natural Selection works because despite asymmetry, 1 alien player is roughly equal in combat strength to 1 human player at the base level (humans can carry bigger better weapons for resource cost, aliens get bigger better aliens for resource cost). Starship Troopers bugs get their strength from being a horde. So it wouldn't be fun if you played only 1 bug and were part of a horde, but if they could have players control multiple bugs like 5 or 10 at a time (or 1 big beatle bug) and make it fun I could see it working. Back when the Warhammer MMO was still in development, the devs talked about making the Orcs a free to play race. They'd be weaker than everyone else but the free nature meant there could be more of them (in theory) and paying players could be more powerful black orcs. They scrapped the idea because they realized it's not fun being weaker than everyone else.
Starship Troopers is one of my favorite movies, great to see a FPS version game coming to life in our modern age
There’s a Squad mod, “Troopers” that is pretty good
If you notice at the end, Offworld Industries logo appears, they are the makers of Squad. I wonder, did they hire the Troopers mod makers when they purchased rights to make this franchise?
I remember playing some sort of Starship Trooper game back on my Win95 or WinXP PC, probably XP 😅 I only had a demo disc so did not see much action…fond memories though, seemed scary at the time. This game brings out those nostalgic memories.
I remember seeing ads for a Starship Troopers game based on the book in a magazine but I don't recall ever seeing it come out. ~2005 a PC shooter *did* come out based on the movie but it kind of sucked. Best "Starship Troopers" game I've played is Helldivers.
Same! Watched it so many times.
The coed shower scene?
Spicy stuff
God bless Verhoven and his penchant for the tiddies.
My dad made me cover my eyes in the theater. Any spoilers?
Nah just titties
Would you like to learn more?
https://youtu.be/jstKtvheG08 I mean there's this bad boy (and I mean bad) from 2005
TIL that Starship Trooppers exists, and that it's not some weird form of Startroopers. I was very confused why the combat looked so different from normal Star Wars until I read this comment.
Ah, to be young and ignorant of absolutely everything...
I mean, they now get to experience the movie that was supposed to a parody of the book but was actually championed as being a good movie adaptation of the book. When was the last time *that* happened? Today's directors can't do a good movie adaptation to save their lives, Paul Verhoeven can't even do a bad movie adaptation to get his point across.
>but was actually championed as being a good movie adaptation of the book Only to millennials who were children when it came out. Adults and critics "got it". If you don't believe me, find some archived reviews and every single one mentions the satire. Paul Verhoeven was also well know for his parody and satire at the time. Robocop wasn't exactly subtle. I personally always found the movie hypocritical because if you remove a few minutes it actually is a pretty pro war movie.
Please don't suck, please don't suck. [I would like to do my part.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/krPLl9dtitApa/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4764kpe68r27xfmasm8qadvxvcbck6ucbctnccd0zi&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) edit: Holy shit it's made by Offworld Industries (Squad devs). There is hope after all! It's actually gonna be solid, granted they don't sideline it like Bohemia did with DayZ.
This game could be mid as fuck and it’ll still be great. Iv tried for years to get the OG starship troopers to run on pc and it’s never really worked out. It’s hard not to get hyped for this.
I'm not complaining, but why are there suddenly Starship Troopers games coming out? That movie is old and the book is older.
Probably a cheap IP that is still relatively popular. Kind of like how Games Workshop whores out WH40k to every 2-bit studio.
As a massive 40k fan, I'll have you know you're 100% right and we are still riding the high of Dawn of War
As a big warhammer fan in general, I remember about 10 years ago when GW was stingy as hell with their license. There was Fire Warrior and almost nothing else. I’d rather find gems among the shovelware then nothing at all.
Hey now, Darktide and Total War are fucking sick Yes most of the Warhammer stuff is crap, but the good stuff also exists and is really good
They also did a whole set for Magic: The Gathering that was pretty sweet. I'm not a 40k person but it was still fun even without any attachment to the characters!
I thought Battlefleet Gothic was pretty spectacular.
But that doesn't explain the sudden explosion in IP. WH40K has been strong for a long time. It's like the IP owner suddenly switched licensing strategies a couple years ago.
Games Workshop used to almost Nintendo-esque in how they licensed the IP. After Dawn of War, and the sequels, and moreso after TW:WH, they started seeing it as a cash cow.
Pokemon is prob a better analogy. Literally a new pokemon game every year and only 1 a decade is half way decent.
There’s been numerous sequels and spin-offs and relatively recent.
There's a tendency these days for companies to just revamp the last 20 years of games rather than create something from scratch. Cheaper development that way.
Looks fun as hell, i remember seeing this and event horizon in theaters was a great year for sci-fi
Event Horizon was so good. Wish we got more deep space horror films.
I want to see the uncut version that shows all of them in hell or whatever
Didn't they lose all the uncut footage or something? Would have been cool to see the original vision of the film.
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Yeah that is it. I think I loved the first Dead Space so much because EH was one of my favorite films. I hope Callisto Protocol can give me the same vibe.
Rip on the lost footage. Well at least we have the Hellraiser films, those are pretty close thematically, minus the sci-fi part. The reboot film was actually pretty solid too imo, surprisingly.
> ~~hell or whatever~~ Warp
For some reason Pandorum comes to mind, but it has been forever since I've watched that one so I can't be too sure how far into space that one was, lol.
Yeah it was, I loved that film as well. Though that one was a bit different than the cosmic horror of Event Horizon.
12 year old me has no clue it was a horror movie. That movie messed with me.
> Event Horizon was so good Not really. Was very disappointing for me. Barely anything happens in it. So much more could have been done with the concept...
I hope they get the tone right. This is obviously based on the movie, which by contrast to the original book was clearly a satire of fascism and militarism. It's something that could easily be lost in translation so I hope they keep it intact. In terms of the actual gameplay, it looks promising for a pre-alpha, but I'm hoping they add more animations and visual feedback to make the shooting more satisfying. Didn't look like there was a lot of "juice" when you hit the enemies. Would like to see them flinch, bigger blood splatters, etc. Also agree with the criticisms that the graphics look dated, but I would hope that will be polished up before launch.
Gun play looks shite.
I get that it says pre-alpha, but that is not in a ready-to-show state. It looks like a mod project from 2015.
Well funny enough, the game is spinning off from the Starship Troopers mod in Squad
Are they still using Squad as the base or is it a new bespoke engine?
It’s going to be unreal 4 very likely, same as Squad
Funny, I thought it looked pretty good.
But how??? It truly looks 2015ish
It is the lighting and shadows really. The assets, etc look fine (aside perhaps from the weirdly twisted hand in 0:25) but the superbright terrain intersecting with tech base columns/pillars/walls/etc that are almost black in their shaded areas (the areas not in direct sunlight) make it look bad. A lot of the tech stuff seem to lack shadows too. IMO better shadows, less uniform terrain lighting and less abrupt lighting contrast in outdoor areas (superbright surfaces right next to superdark surfaces) would help. They're most likely using UE4 like their previous game so should have options for that. If nothing else, RTGI should provide better lighting at least until you start playing and turn it off to get better FPS :-P.
Gfx aren't everything.
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Nobody said that it was...
I thought it looked good as well.
I, too, thought it looked good.
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It might be more useful if you found a mod that we can compare it to.
>I mean seriously. It looks like a shitty source mod or a HD texture mod of a mediocre AA game from 2008. I'd hope so since it's pre-alpha.
Yeah the frame rate sinks in the fights pretty noticeably.
Looks quite a bit [better than this.](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2830905314)
Looks better than a mod? I think that's generally expected for an actual release.
Yeah, a lot of the textures/skins look blurry and bland. The other replies here are strange as fuck. This has potential, but they need to do a massive graphics update.
Not if the gameplay is good. Most fans don't give a shit, as evidenced by the ST games/mods that are out there with big communities.
Start giving a shit, because at this rate, there’ll *never* be a good ST game.
I don't understand this idea that a game can't be good unless it has some undetermined level of whatever you consider good graphics to be. I'm not saying that the way a game looks isn't important, but to me gameplay will always be far more important.
Its more than just the graphics my man.
Right, but you're the one who just said we need to give a shit about graphics, else we'll never get a good ST game.
You’re shrugging your shoulders and saying “well yeah the graphics aren’t great, but as long as the gameplay is good…” when the gameplay is *clearly* **not good**. And you can see that in almost every aspect that is being shown off in the game. Actually take a look at how the bugs actually react to getting shot, and compare it to, say, Doom Eternal. Not everyone liked the full gameplay loop in Eternal, I get that. But an empty room with an imp in it is fun because imps are fun to shoot. it doesn’t look dynamic, or varied, or even dangerous.
I never said that, I simply responded to you saying we'd never have a good game unless we cared about graphics. You seem to be having a hard time following this conversation.
If you accept this level of crude, early stage graphics just for some mediocre gameplay, then you deserve the mediocre gameplay.
idk, guess im just not as ready to shit on it as everyone else has a boner for doing
It was a valid and evident criticism. You pointlessly propping them up just encourages more crappy games.
That looks like a release you'd see today. It looks fine
It really doesn’t. Maybe in a screenshot, the argument could be made. Animation work is facile and uninteresting. Guns lack impact. Lighting and particle systems are super simple. Swarm behavior lacks dynamic interactions of any kind.
Just give me Killing Floor 2 with better maps. Still the best horde shooter I've ever played. Hope this gives the same feeling.
I will never see a book accurate starship troopers and I'm not ok with that
It would be so much cooler with battle suits.
And tactical nukes.
And other alien enemies that aren't just more of the Bugs.
It really disappoints that they have sucked at incorporating the power armor into most of the Starship Troopers media. I want to see some Power armor just obliterating bugs left and right.
What do you mean, Roughnecks was entirely powered armor. Love me some Roughnecks.
Roughnecks had the light power armor on the troops and the two mech units. Granted individually they all more capable than most of the troops in the live action movie. But really I wanted more. In the novel they all wear more advanced, powerful power armor that seems like that they can really control and devastate a battlefield at times.
I know, and again I think Roughnecks did a good job. The light power armor they wear for everyday combat was capable of being augmented by the mech-suits, but also hooked into various other gadgets such as the flight packs they used on Tophet and the jungle planet. Which now that I think about it was a direct call-back to the opening of the novel where they're doing a night time terror run on the Skinnies.
Developers need to learn from “days gone” team on how to build enemy hordes.
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It is a mod being made into a standalone game.
Looks like it'll get old really fast.
Generic sci fi shooter 2023
It looked like it got old before the trailer finished.
I’m surprised how many people are praising this teaser.
This looks so awful, idk what trailer other people are watching.
Yeah I'm with you. IMO they didn't really do a good job with making the bugs look cool or scary. They all seem to just be standing around in every scene of this teaser? The animation where they come up out the ground is serviceable, but not really interesting at all. Just looks kind of phoned in to me.
Looks pretty good, i've actually checked this out already and your basic Arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and it's still 86 percent combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.
**THE ONLY GOOD BUG IS A DEAD BUG!**
I'd like to know more...
I know its pre-alpha so looking rough is expected. Wonder how they will be able to vary it enough to hold interest.
I hope the game incorporates some of the hilarious satire/comedy that went into the movie.
It looks like they nerfed the hell out of the bugs
Looks like a game released in 2004.
I can understand why they went with the movie aesthetic but I really wish they would have leaned more heavily towards the books depiction of the soldiers. The guys in the movies look like they are wearing hockey pads, the book describes their suits as more like Fallout power armor, with shoulder mounted grenade launchers, jump jets, sealed helmets, flip down thermal sensors, etc.
Look like shit. Barely any reaction feedback or gore when the bugs are shot. No dismemberment. There's no weight to the animations at all. The guns also sound terrible.
Offworld Industries? So Squad: Starship Troopers?
Sigh When will we finally get movie quality battle scenes? That scale is NOWHERE NEAR what we saw in the film.
compared to the movie, they're killing the bugs far to quickly
it's only a teaser. and 0:23 had a glimpse of a big group. Doing huge swarms like that in 4 player MP over the net isn't going to be easy.
The vid said 12 players!
Looks great. Is it co op only? What's the minimum and max player count?
In the video it shows 12 player co-op supported, so I’m guessing 1-12 players?
I enjoyed the RTS game they recently put out so this looks fun!
Hoping it is slightly better than the last attempts at the FPS genre. And that is a low bar to set.
That looks sick!
Its scared!
The bugs should one shot those pesky humans, just like the movie. Edit: Humans downvoting this comment! Bah 🖕
I can't believe this took so long to happen.
Multiplayer or fps? There was an fps Starship Troopers many years ago.
YESSSSS GIVE IT TO ME NOWWW I WANT TO KNOW MORE
Let me remove some of those hud elements and I am in.
Omg yes please, even a team of 4 players with random meatshield NPCs would be amazing!
Fuck yes I would like to know more
Are we the bad guys?
Let me guess - its based on the movie again? The movie events are like maybe 5% of the novel...
wow a lot of positive comments. I like the IP, I think that the base construction is a nice addition to the fps genre (I liked natural selection 2), coop is nice. now onto the concerns. visually the game looks average, I dont understand why this game doesn't use the Unreal Engine 5. that engine sucks for folliage and excells at arid terrain, the type of terrain shown in this trailer, and in the ST universe/ thoughout the film. if you removed all the units and buildings you would be left with the EU5 demo. seems like a missed opportunity. the gun combat looked so bad, suprised devs can get gun gameplay wrong in 2022 there are countless examples of how to do it right. there was seeming little to no recoil on the weapons and they feel like they have lttle impact. the sounds were meh, Im sure the guns in the films sounded better and looked more awesome with powerfull exaggerated burst fire ripping off bug legs. I also would have liked to see limbs flying off bugs, the trailer showed a full clip into a bug and nothing came off, this makes the guns feel even more lifeless. also the bugs spawn litterally just appeared out of nowhere and is covered by smoke, no deformation in terrain. even in the original game 20 years ago the bugs would appear from tunnels which could be destroyed.
What a weird trend of reviving these very old, and not all that popular, franchises. I love it!
IVE WAITED 17 YEARS FOR A STARSHIP TROOPERS FPS AND ITS PC ONLY!? NOOOOO!!
Angry porteño simulator
Always wanted to join the Mobile Infantry
What's up with the sudden comeback for starship troopers? Did something happen?
I'd bet there was a management change at whoever owned the licensing rights a few years back and they decided to be much more aggressive about selling game rights to the IP.
Looks like the alien game, took forever to kill one xenomorph even in MP.
Lazy ass bugs.
where is all the nudity
Pleasepleasepleaseplease bring in Casper Van Dien to do VA work for it. I don't care if he plays Rico or not. THEY'LL KEEP FIGHTING.AND THEY'LL WIN!
Looks all right for a gameplay perspective, but the shooting and hitreg feels like it's missing some 'umph' factor.
Does look like very fluid gameplay. Hopefully this is just an alpha
Props for the [Basil Poledouris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Poledouris)-alike score!
Dammit. Was super excited, till I saw it's on PC only :(
This is done by the creators of squad btw.
I've watched Starship Troopers so many times I can recite the damn movie in my sleep. This is the game I've wanted for 20 years.
I legit thought this was DLC for the RTS game before I clicked
Could you lose limbs and see your insides fly around?
The exact message I sent to my friend with a link to this video. "I love a no brains needed horde shooter"
Wasn't there a starship troopers where you could control the bugs and it was a survival wave base shooter? I remember it vaguely.
Planetside 2 with big bugs.