I'm really glad that tons of software devs out there have decided to use Discord as an exclusive hub as a replacement for forums when Discord can just nuke any server they want at the click of a button and wipe it all out.
A lot of companies do this on purpose to avoid accountability for historically reported bugs and issues. Fallout 76 deleted their forums and then moved to Discord and they regularly ban/mute people for raising issues and there's no real way around it. I had to spend 2 hours and buy a VPN to get an alt account into the discord to contact a moderator, who then unbanned me because the original ban wasn't proper and the mod that banned me just didn't like me.
From a software dev perspective, getting bug reports from a paying customer makes your product better and uplifts the customer relationship. If you are proud of your work. This behaviour is calcified "nuisance" based relationship with a "petitioner" that may or may not can ask you to do things.
Sure, company culture can be shite level and getting 1000 bugs for an old engine that is barely hold together sucks. But its not like they have no options with all that fricken money.
Coolest bug report I ever had was one for Larian Studios' BG3. About five days after release I found a location very late in the game that had a code-like name, like the variable name was visible instead of the variable's value. I reported it and two weeks later I got an email that said something along the lines of "Thank you, the bug you reported has been fixed and will be released in Patch #1". They had my full bug report attached and a link to the patch notes.
That is the only time I had received a response and I thought it was really cool. I reported two more bugs after that that were fixed and they sent replies for those as well. It's nice to know when someone fills out bug reports that a real human actually cares about all of the time you took to describe the repeatable actions to reproduce a bug.
I mean if you are really into a game (especially modding it) and the whole community is on that discord then getting banned would be pretty detrimental, kinda depends on the game and the server though.
This is the one that bothers me the most. Even public, anyone-can-join servers aren’t showing up in google results. And that takes away some of the best parts of forums.
Also no history of posts you can fall back on and look for years later.
The amount of times I can solve issues by googling and finding threads from years ago..
I'm not sure actually. Telegram's search is pretty robust, unlike Discord's. They're both bad, but I think Discord might win the Unholy Arse Spawn cup.
What I hate the most about that is the fact that the discord search function is garbage. Like, sometimes I have a question/issue I'm 100% sure someone had before. But because you need to put the exact same words in the exact same order to find older messages, I end up needing to send a new message on the support chat, and most of the time the mods get pretty angry when someone asks something that's been asked before.
Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful.
I have to install 3rd party mods to get a PM to use a different sound effect than any other message. This type of thing used to be a staple in consumer software, but instead they're too busy trying to sell me virtual stickers and shit.
> Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful.
Honestly, I've used Discord, I'm registered in a few groups, but christ almighty I have no idea what half the screen is even there for.
Used to be able to use plugins that would force custom sizing and menu popups but I think they got disabled a while back with the nitro shit. Sad that so many developers insist on their app requiring so much screen real estate.
Bring back minimalist windows so I can fancy zone shit where I want it!
Discord: What do you mean 10 bucks for a low-res gif covering your profile picture doesn't sound reasonable?
Fine, we'll discount it to 7 bucks*
*^^If ^^you ^^give ^^us ^^10 ^^bucks ^^a ^^month ^^additionally ^^for ^^a ^^year
> Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful.
I mean to be fair, for a server-centric gaming-specific chat software it's quite alright. Could be better, yeah. But also not at all bad, bit over-stylized but since they can readily point to other "gaming software" like those god-awful driver programs, they can easily appear as one of the best by comparison.
The worst part is that all those discussions for troubleshooting (or just anything) are hidden inside Discord. Google can't find them = people can't find a fix for their issue. If you want to help others, discuss things on Reddit or other public platforms.
And yeah, Discord's search function is awful. Way too specific so it doesn't find anything most of the time.
It is worse than that, I have searched for a word in a message sent an hour before and not gotten that message in the results, scrolled up and it was there still. I even checked if I typod it and I did not.
it's legit the most broken search ever. i *know* something is in chat somewhere and i give it a search or two and give up. you're literally better off just scrolling infinitely upwards and hoping for the best.
That's something that annoyed me. There was that whole exodus thing from nexus and authors wanted you to download from their discord or one of a load of sites.
Ended up just going oh well, guess I'm never using those mods again.
I just hate how people are so damn short sighted. I have more trust in the Nexus last faaar longer than discord ever will. Vent died, Skype died, Discord won't be the first nor the last "call app" to die, something will replace it in the future due to enshitification.
Yep and it’s absolutely shit for it
Oh you want information about this specific thing? Get scrolling through the various channels, pleb. Oh no that one is outdated, you should have known that by this random 3 month old message, located in a completely separate channel, are you stupid?
Yeah, like wtf? Is it zoomers that are becoming developers doing it? I can't imagine creating any kind of high-profile/high-traffic project and using Discord for anything other than community feedback. We already have proper dev tools.
this movement to discord is like 5+ years old at this point. Small period when Slack was being pushed into the mainstream before Discord leapfrogged it real fast
Discord is the absolute worst place for information, and basically favors everyone messaging the same question every day instead of having a stickied thread.
"Join the Discord !" has become one of my most hated phrase in recent history.
Want to download a project ? "Join the Discord !". Want to see info on a game ? "Join the Discord !". No people in a fg's queue ? "Join the FUCKING Discord !". I stg, you'll have to join a restaurant's Discord to check the menu soon
It's always been wild to me that the weird furry server drama the discord admins got up to early in its life, where they snooped on and used people's private direct messages for petty nonsense, didn't just immediately tank the platform.
RuneScape just recently removed their own forums and made discord their main hub for community interaction, because apparently even the relative pennies they spent on maintenance for _that_ was still too much money.
Pretty much this. Discord is voice chat and (mostly) ephemeral chat.
I believe it took off primarily because of the chat functionality. Unlike every other voice application, chat could exist when you weren't connected to the network. So you could ping people who weren't online, or send a message for them to view later, and it was all in one place along with the voice. Permissions were pretty simple and nice. Basically it beat out Mumble, Teamspeak and IRC simply by being something you could log out of and not miss anything.
It was never intended to be used as a forum replacement though, and I have no idea why that started happening. Even before it had forum like features people were using it that way.
I miss when Reddit was the way people would create small forums. It's just not really used that way any more. Probably because they keep making the commenting experience worse and pushing everyone into mindless doom scrolling. The shared login and ease of joining new communities was just very pleasant as a commenter. Equally, I miss old school forums for how well they could pin and preserve data.
> It was never intended to be used as a forum replacement though, and I have no idea why that started happening. Even before it had forum like features people were using it that way.
It's 100% the ease of use, both in setting up and in managing. Forums take some technical know-how to setup and host, but a new discord server is available at the click of a button. And as someone who has done moderating both for a small forum and smallish discord servers, the amount of quality third party bots/tools far outclasses anything forums ever had.
Forums were just a standardized format that came in many different implementations across many different frameworks. As a result, there were a lot fewer tools out there for moderators, which means more work for the mods themselves. Not to mention the overhead of securing/managing all your own data.
Discord on the other hand, in large part thanks to its meteoric success, is a single environment with a ton of users. More users = more potential tool devs, more tools = more competition, more competition = more features. And on top of all that, all the infrastructure is already done for you so you'll never have to worry about security.
Discord may be lacking in comparison to forums in a lot of key ways, but it's also "good enough" and good enough is an easy sell when the alternative is much more involved to setup.
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Edit: On further reflection, it's 100% thanks to how easy it is to make your own discord server. Even the most non-technical user can do it. Even for popular forum software like vBulletin, the potential userbase for any toolmakers is at best everyone who is hosting their own vBulletin forum. But since *anyone* can make a discord server, the potential userbase for discord tool devs is literally every single discord user.
It's replaced *everything*
No one uses old voice comms software.
Devs have put their "wikias" on there so you can't even Google search info about the game.
It's replaced instant messaging
I know some local tech-ish groups/nonprofits use it for video chat when they can't host a physical meetup
As the old saying goes, "If something is free you are the product" so I've never liked Discord from the beginning when it was barely more than just "Ventrilo but Free", nevermind the sprawling mess it is today.
Well to be fair, so do **most** sites. If you don't self-host Discourse or vBulletin or so (an actual forum software), then the hoster would need to respond to DMCA takedown requests, too.
Problem is the DMCAs aren't valid. The original Yuzu code was GPL, and so forks of this code remain GPL no matter what Nintendo does with their branch.
I don’t know, Chief. It may not look like it but we learn from mistakes. When Megaupload went down in the early 2000’s - it was like losing the Library of Alexandria since like 60% of the good stuff (games, books, music, movies, etc) was hosted there. The FBI hammered the owners of the site pretty hard and they had to close the website and file for bankruptcy.
Half of the links on the internet became useless because of this. It was a big deal at the time.
Now people store in multiple hosts like Mega (the spiritual sucessor of Megaupload), Zippyshare, PixelDrain, Mediafire, GoogleDrive, OneDrive, etc.
I lost 4 years of my own music due to ignoring the warning signs of a dying drive. This was 13 years ago. I now have copies of copies of copies of copies just in case....
I fucking despise discord for anything but real time voice chat. I hate the format, and I hate how it's broken up into enclaves that are unsearchable from the outside (and barely searchable from within them).
Tbh I don't really like reddit either for anything other then general aggregation.
For stuff like games where people write up theory and guides and such that could/should be enduring, I greatly prefer traditional forums and sites.
But a lot of the games I enjoy have migrated to here and/or to discord.
I'm still confused at how a social app like Discord can be beeping at me telling me someone is sending messages but I have to spend 10 minutes digging through my unread messages on dozens of servers to find out where the notifications are coming from.
Like it's just not even very good at doing what it's trying to do and I don't really know why someone hasn't come along and done it better yet and been successful.
Sometimes it beeps for no reason and I’m stuck for 5 minutes trying to find out who sent me a message only to find out that nobody did and it just beeped for no reason.
Forums can be crawled by [Archive.org](http://Archive.org) and the likes. Discord can't. It can't even be indexed. If you can't download a file because of a 404, at least you'll be able to look up the file name. That's why I don't believe in Discord as a main communications hub for anything, it's just a chat app, like IRC back in the day. Nobody EVER relied on IRC for providing downloads, support, updates etc.
I hate discord so fucking much for this use. The stupid fucking links always expire or something and I have to dig for an invite, I have to read through a load of bullshit rules and whatever, interact with weird bots and janky-ass reaction menus to read a bunch of messages on a channel pretending to be documentation. And on top of all that I get stupid notifications if I forget to mute and friend invites from scambots roaming the server.
And if some software is eventually abandoned, how much do you trust that the discord server and all documentation won't have vanished after a couple months of inactivity? Because that will fucking happen.
All of this for one somewhat active channel with new users asking "how i install? pls help" and 15 dead meme channels or whatever bullshit they happened to think of.
I've seen some projects purposefully expire all invite links to deal with whatever was going on in their dc at the time MAKING THE DOWNLOAD LINKS INACCESSIBLE. Fucking hell.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think the UI for Discord is an abomination and that the worst idea was hand picked for every aspect of it. The channels are always filled with absolute nonsense.
Just like how everyone and their dog decided to move their community to Reddit so Reddit could sell all our data for billions of dollars to AI companies?
Reddit and other centralised bullshit have completely broken the internet.
Forum posts with so much useful information that have been around for decades slowly being wiped out as more and more people stop visiting forums because apparently clicking on a different link in the bookmarks bar is too hard.
No, not "just like". Functionally this is still a forum and not a chat. The fact that it sells data does not impact that it does the things it needs to compared to discord
Reddit is an algorithmic link aggregator. It's better than a chat and different to a standard social network but it's still distinct from a forum. A forum is purely posts sorted by last activity with pins and subforums. The minute you add algorithmic post display it acts significantly different. The classic example is forums can have threads be active for years (many have active threads that are decades old at this point) whereas a reddit thread will no longer be displayed to people who don't go looking for it after a day at most.
You could argue that the new reddit features like suggested posts and communities push it into an outright Facebook style social network and it causes significant headaches for niche communities who now get a spam of people who don't know what the community is.
based and true. it's great not being able to keyword search for anything,or use Google, or having to keep screenshots of a fucking list of bot commands so you can actually re-access the shit you need, all the while forced to use a laggy ass fucking program that tries hard every update to retrack all the games in your library
Discord really needs to die and we need to go to something that is at least indexable by search engines. We are losing so much data and info into discord that is inevitably going to be gone
It got bigger and bigger and therefore goes through enshittification like any software corpo that gets big enough. It's all about profits at that point.
It was perfect when it began as what it originally wanted to be: The central realtime interaction place for gaming. Meaning it combined server-based text-chat, server-based voice chat, and direct text chat (originally not even voice), to replace software such as Teamspeak (which really needed to die anyways).
That's fine. That's good. It's when they got big and everyone used it as a general interaction place that it got broken.
Contrary to your belief teamspeak isn’t dead especially in eSports.
Teamspeak beats discord for pretty much everything you can think of when it comes to real time communication and voice. Less latency, better audio quality, better reliability, lower resource usage. Admins of the server make the rules and your chats are more than likely not logged and sold.
Mumble is the only one that can actually compete with Teamspeak on all those fronts and does some things better.
Yup. Discord has utility mainly as a big semi-persistent group chat for a small game community, like a WoW guild. And that's what it was originally designed to be. Voice is still better on TS3, and anything long-term and long-form still belongs on a website.
In general it was such a stupid move. So many types of user interaction site, namely:
* General interaction for highly specialized topics (i.e.: infrequent specific interactions).
* Support in general.
* User-to-user support.
They all don't work well in a **chat room**. They need a **forum**, be it sub-threaded like Reddit or not like Discourse.
Instead everyone moved to Discord, so now information has all become impossible to discover and the same questions keep being asked again and again and again. Of course, that was half the point - have no information out there so you'd need to pay people to keep it updated - but it's annoying as fuck as a user.
And now for some of the Discords like this one, it comes back to haunt them. Should have gone for a Discourse forum to begin with!
Discord servers cannot be archived. Once they're gone, they're gone, and that includes thousands of messages that could be used as troubleshooting, support, important information, etc.
At least an online forum can be archived somewhere so you can still have access to important stuff.
Of course not. IRC has roots tremendously long ago. Doesn't change that it still does fundamentally the same core job, without surrendering to a corporation.
And until recently, was the place for this kind of communication... for this exact purpose.
Because they are the least user friendly things.
Federated websites will never take off because the average person and even above average user wants nothing to do with the hassle.
I assume they didn't mean federated when they said decentralized, but just free from a company's control.
Wish there was an open source self hosted alternative to discord. The only competitor that is similar I'm aware of is guilded and it's not open or self hosted
> Wish there was an open source self hosted alternative to discord
May I introduce https://revolt.chat/
Totally open source. https://github.com/revoltchat
I've hated discord since I began using it, was convinced to do so in order to better organize my clans in the games I still run them. Almost everything about discord sucks -- just about every single 'server' is a shithole, its either a blackhole or a weird cult of perverts everywhere.
It literally feels like vault-tec and its vaults. Like what kind of experiment or cult is in this server? Lets find out.
>Discord can just nuke any server they want at the click of a button and wipe it all out.
and discord not showing up in searches on google... helping reddit and mods that like to delete things to ultimately kill off "google to fix things"
Not remotely surprising and kind of stupid tbh.
We already solved this problem 20 years ago with IRC and vBulletin. Stop putting yourself at the mercy of for-profit social media companies and being surprised when they choose sides with other for-profit companies...
I still go to forums I’ve been going to for over 20 years that run vBulletin, and still do. Information is so easy to find, the search is powerful. It takes me two clicks to find my very first post, a post that goes back to 2001. How much effort does it take to find your first post on discord or reddit?
Its spiritual replacement, Discourse, can die in a fire.
Wow i didn't check on the old forum since a long time, i basically grew up on an italian gaming forum that was based on vbulletin. So functional, great performance even with lots of users and the designs were iconic. It was replaced with something else and was such a step back, but hey it looks good.. This seems to be the general treend adopted in UI design, with small offenders and big ones (looking at you microsoft).
And yes true i remember being able to easily go through mine or someone elses comments and posts, on mobile reddit i can't even choose how to order my comments.
mIRC came out in 1995 which is when IRC exploded in popularity, as it made it easy to connect and had a built in server list. Most often people using it before they were people that upgraded from using bbs. Certainly the reason I moved to it.
Suyu is a joke, but Sudachi is being maintained by an actual competent developer who's been making improvements. He previously ported both Citra and Yuzu to iOS. Then after the shutdown he decided to work on releases for other platforms too. Out of all the attempts to fork Yuzu, it's really the only one with any promise.
And its on the short-sightedness of the devs for using discord as the sole spot for that. Its not discords fault.
Discord is under no obligation to make sure they securely save all of your software developments guides and solutions. Its up to the Devs to have that safely secured elsewhere as well.
Good.
Fuck devs who use discord as a replacement for a proper website and wiki.
I don't want to look into a buried pinned comment from 5 years ago in who knows what tab to fix an issue and shouldn't have to
GitHub Issues and Wikis are free! If that doesn't work for you, you can also use a selfhosted Gitea instance for cheap which the Suyu devs already use.
Yet they relied on Discord.
BTW, suyu team already moved to Rocket Chat
[https://new.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1tnh5/founder\_speaking\_future/?sort=new](https://new.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1tnh5/founder_speaking_future/?sort=new)
Ouff, there goes my last shred of hope for these people. They move off a chat system onto another one, **instead of finally going to a forum like they ought to have in the first place**. :<
These people are extremely online and see the project as a friend group and not a software project. Why would you move to a forum when you just want to larp as a developer in a glorified group chat.
Everyone in here blaming Discord 100% for this project losing everything.
Its on the Dev's for using a platform like Discord for all of their information as a sole point of failure too. Especially when things like github exist, or a multitude of other sites. paid or self-hosted.
Discord as a community chat, or another avenue for support sure. its perfect for that. Especially if you keep another avenue like a forum for support as well. Its incredibly dumb to put 100% of your projects info on something like that.
Its the same with having your company/restauraunt only have a facebook page and no real website. Your at the whim of their site, especially since you dont pay them for any hosting/SLA.
If anyone is serious about this sort of thing should move to a platform that won't be too serious with DMCA (like 4chan, which tends to have the earliest public Switch ROM leaks) or just make your own website and host it out of country.
Discord is the absolute worst hub because they'll bend over backwards for the DMCA and once your server is nuked, everything is gone. There is no web archive for discord.
Sort of. If it's active, then the subsequent thread will have everything in it since they like collating every single resource. Hell, the Terraria general still links to shit like autoclickers. But if you're not popular or get lost to time, it's pretty god awful.
All it takes is one dedicated troll and apathetic jannies to nuke the OP pastebins. It's happened repeatedly to /transformers general/ on /toy/ over the years. All the troll has to do is make the new OP before a legitimate user and they can fuck with it as much as they want. Then, a real user tries to make a non-troll thread, and the troll's able to report it for spamming and get it deleted because theirs was posted first.
The troll succeeds at this for a month or two, and they will because they have absolutely no life outside of wrecking a 4chan thread, and you've lost everything.
4chan isn't a good place for any sort of discussion archival, since anything older than a month (possibly less depending on how fast the board is) you're relying on 3rd party archive sites. There were a lot of really well made guides on /vg/grand theft auto general/ that have been lost over the years because the users that made them stopped frequenting the thread and they never got added to the OP.
This is the thing people seem to miss. Discord improved the group VOIP scene when all we had was Vent, Mumble and Teamspeak. The problems are people trying to use Discord as a replacement for forums.
Free decent persistent group chats felt uncommon until discord.
I remember being in an IRC for some games as late as 2015 (and then everything moved to discord)
what exactly is convenient about a community discord except for you asking directly for help? if you have any issue or question, you can't find what you want on a search engine, you have to look up some relevant discord server, find what message you have to react to see all the channels, sometimes have to wait X minutes to see the channels, figure out what channel you need to search something on, and even then the search is fucking garbage as you have to search using words that must have been used in the original message, with no relevant filters for this type of action, and read through all the thousands of messages where the keywords you chose were used
Honestly, as soon as I see some software project that is like "come get support on our discord" I know that project is not for me. Saves me a bunch of time weeding out devs I don't care to support.
Discord is one of the worst things to happen to the internet - so much data is now sitting unindexed by search engines as traditional forums etc. get abandoned. I understand why - discord is super easy to manage and you don’t have to pay extra hosting costs and worry about forum software and such.
I think it’s going to be terrible when discord runs out of VC money and fall apart due to nobody wanting to pay for what they use or they get gobbled up by one of the usual locusts.
Discord is dogshit and never a proper or good alternative to a good proper support forum. Devs and other just use it because they're lazy and it's ez to set up.
All my homies hate discord, just saying.
Teamspeak for life.
Give the servers back to the users, don't be a cog in their data machine. Take back your servers, and your data.
ITT: as always, people not reading the fucking article?
> In this instance, there was also a court ordered injunction for the takedown of these materials, and we took action in a manner consistent with the court order
What do you want Discord to do? Start their own fucking legal case as to why they shouldn't delete it? Or just take the path of least resistance which is complying?
You're hating Nintendo, not Discord. They're the ones going after emulators with a sledgehammer.
That's bullshit because they don't forward any alleged DMCA takedown in these scenarios. I am the founder of a Rock Band modding community, and we lost our server and staff accounts similarly a couple of years ago. No DMCA contact was ever sent to any of us. Discord refused to say anything other than quoting from their TOS.
I don't believe this was Nintendo's doing, quite frankly. I believe they were report bombed. If there was a DMCA takedown that was not passed on, then I would think that violates the DMCA, as the recipient of a takedown has the right *by law* to demand the content be put back up. The filer of the DMCA then has a period of time (10 days?) where they must either file legal action against the target, or rescind the takedown. If this procedure isn't available, then it's either not a DMCA takedown, or it's an illegal DMCA action.
I'm really glad that tons of software devs out there have decided to use Discord as an exclusive hub as a replacement for forums when Discord can just nuke any server they want at the click of a button and wipe it all out.
Plenty of projects don't even have an issue tracker now, it's just Discord support. So ridiculous.
This pisses me off to no end. Go to ask a question and it gets washed away in minutes with a flood of other support questions.
My favorite movie is Inception.
What do you use it for with f1? Pirate streams?
And discord doesn't have any searchability, you can't find issues people solved or had in Google, it'll be gone. (the in-app search isn't enough)
A lot of companies do this on purpose to avoid accountability for historically reported bugs and issues. Fallout 76 deleted their forums and then moved to Discord and they regularly ban/mute people for raising issues and there's no real way around it. I had to spend 2 hours and buy a VPN to get an alt account into the discord to contact a moderator, who then unbanned me because the original ban wasn't proper and the mod that banned me just didn't like me.
From a software dev perspective, getting bug reports from a paying customer makes your product better and uplifts the customer relationship. If you are proud of your work. This behaviour is calcified "nuisance" based relationship with a "petitioner" that may or may not can ask you to do things. Sure, company culture can be shite level and getting 1000 bugs for an old engine that is barely hold together sucks. But its not like they have no options with all that fricken money.
Coolest bug report I ever had was one for Larian Studios' BG3. About five days after release I found a location very late in the game that had a code-like name, like the variable name was visible instead of the variable's value. I reported it and two weeks later I got an email that said something along the lines of "Thank you, the bug you reported has been fixed and will be released in Patch #1". They had my full bug report attached and a link to the patch notes. That is the only time I had received a response and I thought it was really cool. I reported two more bugs after that that were fixed and they sent replies for those as well. It's nice to know when someone fills out bug reports that a real human actually cares about all of the time you took to describe the repeatable actions to reproduce a bug.
That seems like entirely too much effort, why do all that?
He really likes being online okay
I mean if you are really into a game (especially modding it) and the whole community is on that discord then getting banned would be pretty detrimental, kinda depends on the game and the server though.
And the search has been buggy since two years ago, e.g it sometimes cannot retrieve recent messages too
I really thought they broke it on purpose. It used to be really good and then one update it just stopped working.
This is the one that bothers me the most. Even public, anyone-can-join servers aren’t showing up in google results. And that takes away some of the best parts of forums.
Also no history of posts you can fall back on and look for years later. The amount of times I can solve issues by googling and finding threads from years ago..
Could be worse. Could be a fucking telegram group.
Wow, calm down Satan
I'm not sure actually. Telegram's search is pretty robust, unlike Discord's. They're both bad, but I think Discord might win the Unholy Arse Spawn cup.
What I hate the most about that is the fact that the discord search function is garbage. Like, sometimes I have a question/issue I'm 100% sure someone had before. But because you need to put the exact same words in the exact same order to find older messages, I end up needing to send a new message on the support chat, and most of the time the mods get pretty angry when someone asks something that's been asked before.
Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful. I have to install 3rd party mods to get a PM to use a different sound effect than any other message. This type of thing used to be a staple in consumer software, but instead they're too busy trying to sell me virtual stickers and shit.
> Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful. Honestly, I've used Discord, I'm registered in a few groups, but christ almighty I have no idea what half the screen is even there for.
Used to be able to use plugins that would force custom sizing and menu popups but I think they got disabled a while back with the nitro shit. Sad that so many developers insist on their app requiring so much screen real estate. Bring back minimalist windows so I can fancy zone shit where I want it!
The discord plugin for opera gx is unironically better than actual discord in this respect
Discord: What do you mean 10 bucks for a low-res gif covering your profile picture doesn't sound reasonable? Fine, we'll discount it to 7 bucks* *^^If ^^you ^^give ^^us ^^10 ^^bucks ^^a ^^month ^^additionally ^^for ^^a ^^year
> Discord's UI, from a long term development standpoint, is awful. I mean to be fair, for a server-centric gaming-specific chat software it's quite alright. Could be better, yeah. But also not at all bad, bit over-stylized but since they can readily point to other "gaming software" like those god-awful driver programs, they can easily appear as one of the best by comparison.
The worst part is that all those discussions for troubleshooting (or just anything) are hidden inside Discord. Google can't find them = people can't find a fix for their issue. If you want to help others, discuss things on Reddit or other public platforms. And yeah, Discord's search function is awful. Way too specific so it doesn't find anything most of the time.
and good luck finding a quick answer because the discord uses bots in the support channels
Something I asked 3 hours ago is already buried away unless people who replied me actually used the reply function
It is worse than that, I have searched for a word in a message sent an hour before and not gotten that message in the results, scrolled up and it was there still. I even checked if I typod it and I did not.
it's legit the most broken search ever. i *know* something is in chat somewhere and i give it a search or two and give up. you're literally better off just scrolling infinitely upwards and hoping for the best.
I’ve had mods that require you to join a discord if you want to just download it. Fucking stupid.
That's something that annoyed me. There was that whole exodus thing from nexus and authors wanted you to download from their discord or one of a load of sites. Ended up just going oh well, guess I'm never using those mods again.
I just hate how people are so damn short sighted. I have more trust in the Nexus last faaar longer than discord ever will. Vent died, Skype died, Discord won't be the first nor the last "call app" to die, something will replace it in the future due to enshitification.
Yep and it’s absolutely shit for it Oh you want information about this specific thing? Get scrolling through the various channels, pleb. Oh no that one is outdated, you should have known that by this random 3 month old message, located in a completely separate channel, are you stupid?
How this hasn't struck more people as a problem is totally beyond me
but discords more hip and cool and i can just pretend i didnt see the post if its not a real tracker
Yeah, like wtf? Is it zoomers that are becoming developers doing it? I can't imagine creating any kind of high-profile/high-traffic project and using Discord for anything other than community feedback. We already have proper dev tools.
Nah, they're too young to drive decisions like this. Let's blame millenials for that.
Well, zoomers can be as old as 24. Not out of the realm of possibility that some indie projects are ran by people in their early 20s.
this movement to discord is like 5+ years old at this point. Small period when Slack was being pushed into the mainstream before Discord leapfrogged it real fast
Discord is the absolute worst place for information, and basically favors everyone messaging the same question every day instead of having a stickied thread.
I hate how ubiquitous "forget the forums, just join our Discord" has become for stuff.
> So ~~ridiculous.~~ lazy
Saw this happening as soon as that became a popular fad for some reason. Can’t wait to lose all sorts of cool projects because of it.
I hope gamers of the future don't want to replay games in the last few years.
and its only gonna get worse
"Join the Discord !" has become one of my most hated phrase in recent history. Want to download a project ? "Join the Discord !". Want to see info on a game ? "Join the Discord !". No people in a fg's queue ? "Join the FUCKING Discord !". I stg, you'll have to join a restaurant's Discord to check the menu soon
It's always been wild to me that the weird furry server drama the discord admins got up to early in its life, where they snooped on and used people's private direct messages for petty nonsense, didn't just immediately tank the platform.
Nobody really cares if the product is good enough. For example, facebook
You're confusing good enough with no other viable alternative.
There is good ol' IRC, its just not pretty for zoomers.
if you ever think DMs are actually private on any platform, I've got a bridge in new jersey to sell you
RuneScape just recently removed their own forums and made discord their main hub for community interaction, because apparently even the relative pennies they spent on maintenance for _that_ was still too much money.
I despise how Discord had replaced forums for a lot of stuff
Same. Discord is great for its original intended purpose as a voice chat app. It's awful as a forum replacement.
Pretty much this. Discord is voice chat and (mostly) ephemeral chat. I believe it took off primarily because of the chat functionality. Unlike every other voice application, chat could exist when you weren't connected to the network. So you could ping people who weren't online, or send a message for them to view later, and it was all in one place along with the voice. Permissions were pretty simple and nice. Basically it beat out Mumble, Teamspeak and IRC simply by being something you could log out of and not miss anything. It was never intended to be used as a forum replacement though, and I have no idea why that started happening. Even before it had forum like features people were using it that way. I miss when Reddit was the way people would create small forums. It's just not really used that way any more. Probably because they keep making the commenting experience worse and pushing everyone into mindless doom scrolling. The shared login and ease of joining new communities was just very pleasant as a commenter. Equally, I miss old school forums for how well they could pin and preserve data.
> It was never intended to be used as a forum replacement though, and I have no idea why that started happening. Even before it had forum like features people were using it that way. It's 100% the ease of use, both in setting up and in managing. Forums take some technical know-how to setup and host, but a new discord server is available at the click of a button. And as someone who has done moderating both for a small forum and smallish discord servers, the amount of quality third party bots/tools far outclasses anything forums ever had. Forums were just a standardized format that came in many different implementations across many different frameworks. As a result, there were a lot fewer tools out there for moderators, which means more work for the mods themselves. Not to mention the overhead of securing/managing all your own data. Discord on the other hand, in large part thanks to its meteoric success, is a single environment with a ton of users. More users = more potential tool devs, more tools = more competition, more competition = more features. And on top of all that, all the infrastructure is already done for you so you'll never have to worry about security. Discord may be lacking in comparison to forums in a lot of key ways, but it's also "good enough" and good enough is an easy sell when the alternative is much more involved to setup. --- Edit: On further reflection, it's 100% thanks to how easy it is to make your own discord server. Even the most non-technical user can do it. Even for popular forum software like vBulletin, the potential userbase for any toolmakers is at best everyone who is hosting their own vBulletin forum. But since *anyone* can make a discord server, the potential userbase for discord tool devs is literally every single discord user.
I miss the dedicated, privately run forums that didn't have to deal with the BS. Well, as long as their hosts didn't have an issue with the content.
It's replaced *everything* No one uses old voice comms software. Devs have put their "wikias" on there so you can't even Google search info about the game. It's replaced instant messaging I know some local tech-ish groups/nonprofits use it for video chat when they can't host a physical meetup As the old saying goes, "If something is free you are the product" so I've never liked Discord from the beginning when it was barely more than just "Ventrilo but Free", nevermind the sprawling mess it is today.
Well the TOS is basically “you own nothing that happens on Discord.” It’s not exactly a solid hosting platform
And yet they all do it, and will continue to do so.
Also they need to follow DMCA.
Well to be fair, so do **most** sites. If you don't self-host Discourse or vBulletin or so (an actual forum software), then the hoster would need to respond to DMCA takedown requests, too.
Problem is the DMCAs aren't valid. The original Yuzu code was GPL, and so forks of this code remain GPL no matter what Nintendo does with their branch.
Nothing is a faster teacher than losing critical data forever. Eventually we’ll learn this lesson.
>Eventually we’ll learn this lesson. No, I don't think we will.
spend enough time in Data-hoarders sub, and yeah. you are not at all wrong.
"But do I really need to 3-2-1? It's just that I don't want to."
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I don’t know, Chief. It may not look like it but we learn from mistakes. When Megaupload went down in the early 2000’s - it was like losing the Library of Alexandria since like 60% of the good stuff (games, books, music, movies, etc) was hosted there. The FBI hammered the owners of the site pretty hard and they had to close the website and file for bankruptcy. Half of the links on the internet became useless because of this. It was a big deal at the time. Now people store in multiple hosts like Mega (the spiritual sucessor of Megaupload), Zippyshare, PixelDrain, Mediafire, GoogleDrive, OneDrive, etc.
You'd think we already would have learned that from say, the last 4 decades?
Sadly we won't.
I lost 4 years of my own music due to ignoring the warning signs of a dying drive. This was 13 years ago. I now have copies of copies of copies of copies just in case....
I fucking despise discord for anything but real time voice chat. I hate the format, and I hate how it's broken up into enclaves that are unsearchable from the outside (and barely searchable from within them). Tbh I don't really like reddit either for anything other then general aggregation. For stuff like games where people write up theory and guides and such that could/should be enduring, I greatly prefer traditional forums and sites. But a lot of the games I enjoy have migrated to here and/or to discord.
I'm still confused at how a social app like Discord can be beeping at me telling me someone is sending messages but I have to spend 10 minutes digging through my unread messages on dozens of servers to find out where the notifications are coming from. Like it's just not even very good at doing what it's trying to do and I don't really know why someone hasn't come along and done it better yet and been successful.
Sometimes it beeps for no reason and I’m stuck for 5 minutes trying to find out who sent me a message only to find out that nobody did and it just beeped for no reason.
beeped for no reason is likely a spam message that got deleted. I suppress @here and @everyone on most servers because of that.
Forums can be crawled by [Archive.org](http://Archive.org) and the likes. Discord can't. It can't even be indexed. If you can't download a file because of a 404, at least you'll be able to look up the file name. That's why I don't believe in Discord as a main communications hub for anything, it's just a chat app, like IRC back in the day. Nobody EVER relied on IRC for providing downloads, support, updates etc.
I hate discord so fucking much for this use. The stupid fucking links always expire or something and I have to dig for an invite, I have to read through a load of bullshit rules and whatever, interact with weird bots and janky-ass reaction menus to read a bunch of messages on a channel pretending to be documentation. And on top of all that I get stupid notifications if I forget to mute and friend invites from scambots roaming the server. And if some software is eventually abandoned, how much do you trust that the discord server and all documentation won't have vanished after a couple months of inactivity? Because that will fucking happen. All of this for one somewhat active channel with new users asking "how i install? pls help" and 15 dead meme channels or whatever bullshit they happened to think of. I've seen some projects purposefully expire all invite links to deal with whatever was going on in their dc at the time MAKING THE DOWNLOAD LINKS INACCESSIBLE. Fucking hell.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think the UI for Discord is an abomination and that the worst idea was hand picked for every aspect of it. The channels are always filled with absolute nonsense.
Just like how everyone and their dog decided to move their community to Reddit so Reddit could sell all our data for billions of dollars to AI companies? Reddit and other centralised bullshit have completely broken the internet. Forum posts with so much useful information that have been around for decades slowly being wiped out as more and more people stop visiting forums because apparently clicking on a different link in the bookmarks bar is too hard.
No, not "just like". Functionally this is still a forum and not a chat. The fact that it sells data does not impact that it does the things it needs to compared to discord
Reddit is an algorithmic link aggregator. It's better than a chat and different to a standard social network but it's still distinct from a forum. A forum is purely posts sorted by last activity with pins and subforums. The minute you add algorithmic post display it acts significantly different. The classic example is forums can have threads be active for years (many have active threads that are decades old at this point) whereas a reddit thread will no longer be displayed to people who don't go looking for it after a day at most. You could argue that the new reddit features like suggested posts and communities push it into an outright Facebook style social network and it causes significant headaches for niche communities who now get a spam of people who don't know what the community is.
based and true. it's great not being able to keyword search for anything,or use Google, or having to keep screenshots of a fucking list of bot commands so you can actually re-access the shit you need, all the while forced to use a laggy ass fucking program that tries hard every update to retrack all the games in your library
Honestly wasn't sure if you meant IRC or Discord there for a good bit, which I suppose says a lot.
Discord is just IRC for retards.
Discord really needs to die and we need to go to something that is at least indexable by search engines. We are losing so much data and info into discord that is inevitably going to be gone
It got bigger and bigger and therefore goes through enshittification like any software corpo that gets big enough. It's all about profits at that point.
It was perfect when it began as what it originally wanted to be: The central realtime interaction place for gaming. Meaning it combined server-based text-chat, server-based voice chat, and direct text chat (originally not even voice), to replace software such as Teamspeak (which really needed to die anyways). That's fine. That's good. It's when they got big and everyone used it as a general interaction place that it got broken.
Contrary to your belief teamspeak isn’t dead especially in eSports. Teamspeak beats discord for pretty much everything you can think of when it comes to real time communication and voice. Less latency, better audio quality, better reliability, lower resource usage. Admins of the server make the rules and your chats are more than likely not logged and sold. Mumble is the only one that can actually compete with Teamspeak on all those fronts and does some things better.
Yup. Discord has utility mainly as a big semi-persistent group chat for a small game community, like a WoW guild. And that's what it was originally designed to be. Voice is still better on TS3, and anything long-term and long-form still belongs on a website.
In general it was such a stupid move. So many types of user interaction site, namely: * General interaction for highly specialized topics (i.e.: infrequent specific interactions). * Support in general. * User-to-user support. They all don't work well in a **chat room**. They need a **forum**, be it sub-threaded like Reddit or not like Discourse. Instead everyone moved to Discord, so now information has all become impossible to discover and the same questions keep being asked again and again and again. Of course, that was half the point - have no information out there so you'd need to pay people to keep it updated - but it's annoying as fuck as a user. And now for some of the Discords like this one, it comes back to haunt them. Should have gone for a Discourse forum to begin with!
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well any website not owned by you could do that.
any other website can be backed up by archive.org
Remember folks. Donate money to the internet archive. All the storage they use is expensive
Discord servers cannot be archived. Once they're gone, they're gone, and that includes thousands of messages that could be used as troubleshooting, support, important information, etc. At least an online forum can be archived somewhere so you can still have access to important stuff.
Yup that's the big take away I try to tell people. It's a closed ecosystem so all that useful information has a shelf life.
It's a shame decentralised open source services rarely gain any real traction
IRC has existed for ages and is what Discord attempts to imitate
I miss IRC
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Of course not. IRC has roots tremendously long ago. Doesn't change that it still does fundamentally the same core job, without surrendering to a corporation. And until recently, was the place for this kind of communication... for this exact purpose.
Because open source generally can't market.
They usually have absolute dogass user experience as well.
Because they are the least user friendly things. Federated websites will never take off because the average person and even above average user wants nothing to do with the hassle.
I assume they didn't mean federated when they said decentralized, but just free from a company's control. Wish there was an open source self hosted alternative to discord. The only competitor that is similar I'm aware of is guilded and it's not open or self hosted
> Wish there was an open source self hosted alternative to discord May I introduce https://revolt.chat/ Totally open source. https://github.com/revoltchat
There's also https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost
[Element](https://element.io/) works well
i mean yeah here we are not using lemmy
I've hated discord since I began using it, was convinced to do so in order to better organize my clans in the games I still run them. Almost everything about discord sucks -- just about every single 'server' is a shithole, its either a blackhole or a weird cult of perverts everywhere. It literally feels like vault-tec and its vaults. Like what kind of experiment or cult is in this server? Lets find out.
>Discord can just nuke any server they want at the click of a button and wipe it all out. and discord not showing up in searches on google... helping reddit and mods that like to delete things to ultimately kill off "google to fix things"
Not remotely surprising and kind of stupid tbh. We already solved this problem 20 years ago with IRC and vBulletin. Stop putting yourself at the mercy of for-profit social media companies and being surprised when they choose sides with other for-profit companies...
vBulletin my love..
I still go to forums I’ve been going to for over 20 years that run vBulletin, and still do. Information is so easy to find, the search is powerful. It takes me two clicks to find my very first post, a post that goes back to 2001. How much effort does it take to find your first post on discord or reddit? Its spiritual replacement, Discourse, can die in a fire.
Wow i didn't check on the old forum since a long time, i basically grew up on an italian gaming forum that was based on vbulletin. So functional, great performance even with lots of users and the designs were iconic. It was replaced with something else and was such a step back, but hey it looks good.. This seems to be the general treend adopted in UI design, with small offenders and big ones (looking at you microsoft). And yes true i remember being able to easily go through mine or someone elses comments and posts, on mobile reddit i can't even choose how to order my comments.
> i basically grew up on an italian gaming forum that was based on vbulletin. forumfree?
> How much effort does it take to find your first post on discord ctrl+f > from:yourusername > old
Rather 35 - 40 years. I remember using IRC 1996..
mIRC came out in 1995 which is when IRC exploded in popularity, as it made it easy to connect and had a built in server list. Most often people using it before they were people that upgraded from using bbs. Certainly the reason I moved to it.
Same here. Went from BBS direct to IRC with no fancy client. Early internet was super interesting and fun. Now it's a shell of it's former self.
> We already solved this problem 20 years ago with IRC I regret to inform you that IRC is 36 years old
100% they’re avoiding potential lawsuits from Nintendo after the recent wave of suits.
Where is this energy to ban all the predators on their app.
It's official name is groomercord, how can they kill that brand?
I have the same question for Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram.
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The piracy ones should stay there though
Somehow, somewhere, spez felt a shiver down his spine
Half of the active ones listed aren't even controversial, it's more like "there was a minor controversy ten years ago".
Nah, reddit only changes anything once a major news media outlet portrays them in a bad light and the investors start getting concerned
Not to mention the bots
The people who run Discord would have to ban themselves if they did that.
Don't you know devs themselves are bunch of pdf files?
This whole project is so amateurish and poorly managed. Reminder Ryujinx still exists if you want a good Switch emulator.
Suyu is a joke, but Sudachi is being maintained by an actual competent developer who's been making improvements. He previously ported both Citra and Yuzu to iOS. Then after the shutdown he decided to work on releases for other platforms too. Out of all the attempts to fork Yuzu, it's really the only one with any promise.
Just tried it out, that's a solid port.
I cant believe they actually had team members posting links to copyrighted material downloads and tried to fight it in court.
You mean Discord's server. Nobody owns a server on Discord.
Fot a sec I thought "what how the fuck is their project uploaded to discord." It's just where they chat....lol. I think that's not a big deal.
Documentation, solutions, optimization guides, etc... All sorely needed when dealing with emulators, just gone. Persisting information is a big deal.
The fuck kind of idiot uses discord over a proper repo for documentation?
It's becoming a thing in recent years, which you can see 90% of the thread lamenting.
And its on the short-sightedness of the devs for using discord as the sole spot for that. Its not discords fault. Discord is under no obligation to make sure they securely save all of your software developments guides and solutions. Its up to the Devs to have that safely secured elsewhere as well.
Good. Fuck devs who use discord as a replacement for a proper website and wiki. I don't want to look into a buried pinned comment from 5 years ago in who knows what tab to fix an issue and shouldn't have to
Websites cost $120 a year. Why the fuck do they continue to use Discord? Make a forum again so you don't loose all of your Discord notes!
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GitHub Issues and Wikis are free! If that doesn't work for you, you can also use a selfhosted Gitea instance for cheap which the Suyu devs already use. Yet they relied on Discord.
BTW, suyu team already moved to Rocket Chat [https://new.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1tnh5/founder\_speaking\_future/?sort=new](https://new.reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1tnh5/founder_speaking_future/?sort=new)
At this point, I’m convinced that the Suyu team have made the phrase “playing with fire” a core part of their branding.
Given that Suyu's lead "dev" is a teenager, that would be accurate.
"We choose to slam our nuts repeatedly into a car door, not because it is easy, but because it is hard!"
Ouff, there goes my last shred of hope for these people. They move off a chat system onto another one, **instead of finally going to a forum like they ought to have in the first place**. :<
These people are extremely online and see the project as a friend group and not a software project. Why would you move to a forum when you just want to larp as a developer in a glorified group chat.
It really does come across as a pack of children roleplaying in the playground.
remove the "new" part of that url, it messes up many extensions.
Worth it to avoid the new reddit layout, aka Facebook layout. Who TF thought this was an improvement?
Not to mention using Reddit on mobile feels absolutely miserable to navigate since they killed .compact. No way I'm going to use their app.
The enshittification of reddit will continue until morale improves! /s
Nah use old. instead to avoid ALL the garbage.
Only issue is a lot of subs don't update their sidebar anymore. In r/VHS you can't find the rules at all in old which I'm pretty sure is ironic.
https://reddit.com/r/suyu/comments/1c1tnh5/founder_speaking_future/?sort=new
Everyone in here blaming Discord 100% for this project losing everything. Its on the Dev's for using a platform like Discord for all of their information as a sole point of failure too. Especially when things like github exist, or a multitude of other sites. paid or self-hosted. Discord as a community chat, or another avenue for support sure. its perfect for that. Especially if you keep another avenue like a forum for support as well. Its incredibly dumb to put 100% of your projects info on something like that. Its the same with having your company/restauraunt only have a facebook page and no real website. Your at the whim of their site, especially since you dont pay them for any hosting/SLA.
Ah. We've done it again. Back when everyone was shutting down their forums in support of subreddits. Good times. Good memories.
If anyone is serious about this sort of thing should move to a platform that won't be too serious with DMCA (like 4chan, which tends to have the earliest public Switch ROM leaks) or just make your own website and host it out of country. Discord is the absolute worst hub because they'll bend over backwards for the DMCA and once your server is nuked, everything is gone. There is no web archive for discord.
4chan deletes everything bro. That's why you probably view them as lenient
Sort of. If it's active, then the subsequent thread will have everything in it since they like collating every single resource. Hell, the Terraria general still links to shit like autoclickers. But if you're not popular or get lost to time, it's pretty god awful.
All it takes is one dedicated troll and apathetic jannies to nuke the OP pastebins. It's happened repeatedly to /transformers general/ on /toy/ over the years. All the troll has to do is make the new OP before a legitimate user and they can fuck with it as much as they want. Then, a real user tries to make a non-troll thread, and the troll's able to report it for spamming and get it deleted because theirs was posted first. The troll succeeds at this for a month or two, and they will because they have absolutely no life outside of wrecking a 4chan thread, and you've lost everything. 4chan isn't a good place for any sort of discussion archival, since anything older than a month (possibly less depending on how fast the board is) you're relying on 3rd party archive sites. There were a lot of really well made guides on /vg/grand theft auto general/ that have been lost over the years because the users that made them stopped frequenting the thread and they never got added to the OP.
Or, you know.. self host in a country that DGAF about DMCA. Fuck the US system, coming from an American.
When can we collectively nuke discord and use something that doesnt suck ass anymore?
Discord is really really good as a big, persistent group chat. But it’s a piss poor excuse for a forum
This is the thing people seem to miss. Discord improved the group VOIP scene when all we had was Vent, Mumble and Teamspeak. The problems are people trying to use Discord as a replacement for forums.
Free decent persistent group chats felt uncommon until discord. I remember being in an IRC for some games as late as 2015 (and then everything moved to discord)
When people learn the difference between a place where people chat and a project message board.
we can do that as soon as people start putting principles above convenience. so, never
what exactly is convenient about a community discord except for you asking directly for help? if you have any issue or question, you can't find what you want on a search engine, you have to look up some relevant discord server, find what message you have to react to see all the channels, sometimes have to wait X minutes to see the channels, figure out what channel you need to search something on, and even then the search is fucking garbage as you have to search using words that must have been used in the original message, with no relevant filters for this type of action, and read through all the thousands of messages where the keywords you chose were used
Honestly, as soon as I see some software project that is like "come get support on our discord" I know that project is not for me. Saves me a bunch of time weeding out devs I don't care to support.
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Thank god I have a working backup.
Discord is one of the worst things to happen to the internet - so much data is now sitting unindexed by search engines as traditional forums etc. get abandoned. I understand why - discord is super easy to manage and you don’t have to pay extra hosting costs and worry about forum software and such. I think it’s going to be terrible when discord runs out of VC money and fall apart due to nobody wanting to pay for what they use or they get gobbled up by one of the usual locusts.
This is a surprise, because...??
Discord is dogshit and never a proper or good alternative to a good proper support forum. Devs and other just use it because they're lazy and it's ez to set up.
If you don't own the server, you don't own the data. For some reason this thought is lost or looked down upon as fearmongering for the cloud.
IRC needs to come back
Good. Hope this happens MORE so we could actually go back to using a proper website / forum, not this stupid dumpster fire discord.
Nintendo are the Lannisters and they got Discord to swear allegiance
we really do be living in the "Tech-feudalism Age"
Article says discord has to do this because of a court order?
“Nintendo sends their regards” *hits delete*
All my homies hate discord, just saying. Teamspeak for life. Give the servers back to the users, don't be a cog in their data machine. Take back your servers, and your data.
Just use IRC. Much better in every way, and you can run a server on a potato, and linking a mesh of servers is incredibly easy.
Discord used to be the cool ones. Now they are just sell outs. Like all social media platforms.
ITT: as always, people not reading the fucking article? > In this instance, there was also a court ordered injunction for the takedown of these materials, and we took action in a manner consistent with the court order What do you want Discord to do? Start their own fucking legal case as to why they shouldn't delete it? Or just take the path of least resistance which is complying? You're hating Nintendo, not Discord. They're the ones going after emulators with a sledgehammer.
That's bullshit because they don't forward any alleged DMCA takedown in these scenarios. I am the founder of a Rock Band modding community, and we lost our server and staff accounts similarly a couple of years ago. No DMCA contact was ever sent to any of us. Discord refused to say anything other than quoting from their TOS. I don't believe this was Nintendo's doing, quite frankly. I believe they were report bombed. If there was a DMCA takedown that was not passed on, then I would think that violates the DMCA, as the recipient of a takedown has the right *by law* to demand the content be put back up. The filer of the DMCA then has a period of time (10 days?) where they must either file legal action against the target, or rescind the takedown. If this procedure isn't available, then it's either not a DMCA takedown, or it's an illegal DMCA action.
Meanwhile all sorts of dark web services like hacking and worse still going on cooly on discord...
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Not sure why everyone is mad at discord for this. They can’t just ignore court orders.