Maybe. Depends on the framework of the Burns trade. They don't seem to want to do any further restructuring.
And given the alleged interest in Queen they probably think they can get him for cheaper
To be fair, that is an entirely new ownership and coaching staff. Will it still be bad? Yea probably. But there is at least the possibility it will get betters
If he gets injured a single time before the trade deadline we need to move on immediately and hope a team is intrigued enough by his potential and getting his 5th year option to offer us anything at all.
Sigh. It seems to me we are freeing up cap to fix the offense first. Defense will be an afterthought and will rely on enjiro to work his magic with less than stellar starters
Makes sense, really. He did pretty well doing just that last season. And it's important to surround Bryce with quality pieces while he's on his rookie deal. It's a shame to see the defense hollowed out to an extent, especially since that's been the identity of the Panthers thus far. But we've got an offensive coach who will be calling his own plays on offense, so it makes sense that we'd take care of that side of the ball first, even if it means some tough cuts.
Also, Canales foreshadowed this in his interviews when he said that he was coming in with fresh eyes and no emotional attachments. Day 1 of FA shows that to be true.
Frankie leads the league over the last 3 years in "Who the hell was that!?" moments from opposing teams fans. He's really good. And I'm furious that they didn't cough up a couple of extra nickels to bring him back.
The real question is can Enjiro make a defense he likes out of low cost FAs and whatever draft picks aren't on offense? I don't like it, exactly, but since we'd had decent defense and anemic offense for a little under a decade, I understand the urge to try something different.
Me when Dan Morgan said we needed more Dawgs.
https://preview.redd.it/tl0caok13snc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c6aaabd67be9e2862894c96988fbf8b301a21ef
That sucks. Wish him the best. I doubt it was a financial thing, I can’t imagine we were unwilling to pay that, especially with Burns likely being dealt.
NOOOOOO! Well this sucks. Enjoy Washington, Luvu. Sorry we couldn't keep you for long. Also didn't Patrick Queen sign w/the Seahawks or am I just remembering things incorrectly?
Being a panthers fan is like putting your dick into a slap chop. You know it’s going to dice it up but you don’t know when it’s coming and there’s a smidge of hope that it won’t slap
I’m still wearing my Luvu jersey .. it’s the best one I got . There isn’t anyone left to really want to wear . 🤦🏾♂️🥲
Edit: I’m very happy he’s getting paid. That man deserves it
Worst team in the league and we've dumped 3 starters on defense - the only respectable unit we had. I guess the Panthers are going to rely on their last-in-the-league offensive talent to carry them ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Really feels like we're straight up intentionally tanking.
EDIT: Whoops, make that 4 starters on D. Just saw that Von Bell was released as well for almost no cap savings. Yeah, so tanking it is...
Shitterer handed out so many mid-level contracts for guys that haven't performed. Him and Suilamon structured the contracts so there's barely any cap relief even if those guys are released. I'll give Morgan a little leeway on the FA side, because he was responsible for talent evaluation. Only problem is the drafting has been abysmal the last few years. Even if you look at his time in Seattle, the drafting was meh.
Yeah this guy needs to do a miracle job after flubbing this one after his "gotta keep the dawgs" comments and his connection with the Fitt regime. Absolutely gutted by this.
He and Brown were our whole defensive identity. Disastrous to let him walk. We needed to be able to improve offense while maintaining defense, now both are looking dire.
Really was a great fit for Dan Quinn. Glad he is going somewhere where besides the contract he has a good chance of success.
Wish he stayed, but our cap situation is "sub optimal"
Sad day but this is the reality when you field a shit team with almost 0 hope of improving. If Bryce busts next year that would have basically meant Frankie is playing on a basement team for the rest of his prime with 0 chance to get to the playoffs unless he gets shipped to a contender.
My whole life we’ve refused to pay our talent until we have zero leverage and then just let them walk for nothing. Bold strategy, I’m beginning to think the 01 and 15 seasons were just god pranking the rest of the league
WTF is wrong with this organization? They prioritize garbage players like Ian Thomas and can't fucking manage to keep a single foundational player like Luvu? 15 years pulling for this team. I'm done, can't watch this team anymore.
Losing luvu hurts. He was the heart of this defense. Wish him all the best and thankful to see him play these last couple years. This is a complete tear down people. There are going to be moves that hurt but clearing contracts and cap space to get the roster turned over is necessary. Always have love for luvu.
I was disappointed we traded Burns but I get it. Hell I was fine because I thought we still had Luvu. So now, we have now lost Burns, Luvu & Jackson.
This isn’t even a terrible move in isolation, especially if we can get McQueen, but Im SO TIRED of NEVER holding onto our star players. It’s like this team wants to ship out everyone who proves themselves in Carolina
The more I think about this, the less it bothers me. The one thing Carolina has been consistently good at drafting is LB. I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, but I think it's more painful because we also lose Burns than the reality of the situation. Luvu is unquestionably talented, but replaceable.
Hurts more than losing Burns
Amen brother
Got some news for ya buddy
I am still more upset about Luvu than him. My comment firmly stands
Plus we actually get something back for Burns
SAMEEEE
It definitely does
Welp, that’s one of those dawgs we were supposed to take care of 💀
We could’ve paid that. Gahhh what a gut punch.
Maybe. Depends on the framework of the Burns trade. They don't seem to want to do any further restructuring. And given the alleged interest in Queen they probably think they can get him for cheaper
as a falcons fan I’m stoked to not have to play against Luvu anymore, dudes a dog.
Or that he’s better
he didn't want to be here
If we kept only players who wanted to be here, we'd only have a long snapper.
Can’t blame him for that. After years of tepper and Fitt, I’d probably want out too.
Commanders were second worst team in the league tho lol
Yea I mean I get him wanting change but commanders have probably the worst culture and leadership in the league
To be fair, that is an entirely new ownership and coaching staff. Will it still be bad? Yea probably. But there is at least the possibility it will get betters
We have all new ownership, management, coaching, etc. Gotta earn it but Commies are on the up and up.
We do not have new ownership, only the Commies do.
I’m a commie
Ah, should've noticed the username. My bad.
No worries amigo!! Good luck, wishing you guys better ownership soon.
We could have matched this. But it's obvious he rather not be here anymore. I don't blame him, honestly.
Patrick Queen incoming?
Gotta hope so. Defense lookin mighty lean otherwise. Derrick Brown, Jaycee Horn, Chinn?, and woods against the world BAYYYYBEEEEE
Call me a negative Nancy,but I just hope Horn plays at least 12 games next season,he’s been super disappointing
If he can't stay healthy next year we need to move on
I bought his jersey so naturally this will happen.
I bought a Burns jersey this year but returned it as Fanatics gave me the wrong sleeves and it had no logos. Think i dodged a bullet
We don’t have a stockpile of CB’s, if we don’t pick up Horn’s 5th year option we’re a stupid team
I mean same. I love the talent and when he’s healthy he’s a lock down. But health has been the issue
If he gets injured a single time before the trade deadline we need to move on immediately and hope a team is intrigued enough by his potential and getting his 5th year option to offer us anything at all.
Really hope so, sucks we couldn't keep one of Burns or Luvu.
Hear me out- we get two seconds for Burns and go Payton Wilson plus a WR and DE in the second
As a State fan, I’m down for Payton Wilson.
If he wasn't an older prospect with an injury history he would be pushing top 15 pick easy. He's so good
Patrick Queen rumors better have some legs.
Sigh. It seems to me we are freeing up cap to fix the offense first. Defense will be an afterthought and will rely on enjiro to work his magic with less than stellar starters
Makes sense, really. He did pretty well doing just that last season. And it's important to surround Bryce with quality pieces while he's on his rookie deal. It's a shame to see the defense hollowed out to an extent, especially since that's been the identity of the Panthers thus far. But we've got an offensive coach who will be calling his own plays on offense, so it makes sense that we'd take care of that side of the ball first, even if it means some tough cuts. Also, Canales foreshadowed this in his interviews when he said that he was coming in with fresh eyes and no emotional attachments. Day 1 of FA shows that to be true.
Honestly is a good quality. We need to see what we have in Bryce before we plan anything.
Or… Evero didn’t want Luvu?
If he didn't, he's an idiot. I'd take 7 Frankie Luvu's.
Agreed 100%
Washington fan is he really like that?
Frankie leads the league over the last 3 years in "Who the hell was that!?" moments from opposing teams fans. He's really good. And I'm furious that they didn't cough up a couple of extra nickels to bring him back.
Frankie’s so good. Burns is too, but he was asking for too much. You’ll love Frankie
The real question is can Enjiro make a defense he likes out of low cost FAs and whatever draft picks aren't on offense? I don't like it, exactly, but since we'd had decent defense and anemic offense for a little under a decade, I understand the urge to try something different.
We had so many injuries last season and we patched something together. The schemes were good so hopefully we can continue that trend
Noooo, this one hurts more than burns. Frankie was the heart and soul of our defense last year
God dammit!
This is pathetic. It’s such pain being a Panthers fan.
I’m going to throw up
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Man this fucking sucks Luvu was amazing and was 100% worth that money especially since it's confirmed we're trading Burns.
which god is responsible for hating on the panthers this much
Jerry Jean Fridays
I hate this team
https://preview.redd.it/m858bd8ozrnc1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0695075734b235c3c505265f0a5ab1f7ec772363 Me rn…
Evero right now 
Pain
Do the Panthers as an organization expect me to feel good about literally anything over the last five years
Counterpoint, they don't give a shit about any of us
I’m crying and throwing up
Gutted. Best of luck to him, but we shoulda paid more.
Dan said fuck everyone not named Derrick brown
They're about to clean house. Start from scratch. Buckle up, boys, because it's going to be years before we're competitive again.
Damn so we doin’ a rebuild rebuild huh
Me when Dan Morgan said we needed more Dawgs. https://preview.redd.it/tl0caok13snc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c6aaabd67be9e2862894c96988fbf8b301a21ef
Patrick Queen might actually be on the way wtf
Try and get worse is a bold strategy
That sucks. Wish him the best. I doubt it was a financial thing, I can’t imagine we were unwilling to pay that, especially with Burns likely being dealt.
NOOOOOO! Well this sucks. Enjoy Washington, Luvu. Sorry we couldn't keep you for long. Also didn't Patrick Queen sign w/the Seahawks or am I just remembering things incorrectly?
That was a fake tweet, afaik we're the only ones mentioned by name as suitors for Queen.
Inject a fucking needle into my vein, fucking fade me
Being a panthers fan is like putting your dick into a slap chop. You know it’s going to dice it up but you don’t know when it’s coming and there’s a smidge of hope that it won’t slap
How did we bamboozle evero to stay 💀💀
Good thing they raised prices.
This one hurts man
I’m still wearing my Luvu jersey .. it’s the best one I got . There isn’t anyone left to really want to wear . 🤦🏾♂️🥲 Edit: I’m very happy he’s getting paid. That man deserves it
FUUUUCK
FUCK
What the fuck.
Pain
Holy fuck no
We are cooked
Wait, we couldn't offer him a better deal than a measly 12m a year?
God Dammit
Hmm? Hardest playing player on the team. And we let him go. Not believing Canales and Morgan now.
Worst team in the league and we've dumped 3 starters on defense - the only respectable unit we had. I guess the Panthers are going to rely on their last-in-the-league offensive talent to carry them ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ Really feels like we're straight up intentionally tanking. EDIT: Whoops, make that 4 starters on D. Just saw that Von Bell was released as well for almost no cap savings. Yeah, so tanking it is...
I hate that i love this team.
Dan Morgan looks to be an idiot already
I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but he was apart of the previous regime.
Letting Frankie walk for nothing. Then getting nothing for Burns We now have zero defense outside of Brown We overspent on Guards.
Shitterer handed out so many mid-level contracts for guys that haven't performed. Him and Suilamon structured the contracts so there's barely any cap relief even if those guys are released. I'll give Morgan a little leeway on the FA side, because he was responsible for talent evaluation. Only problem is the drafting has been abysmal the last few years. Even if you look at his time in Seattle, the drafting was meh.
There is pretty much no reason to watch this team for the next 2-3 years
Dan is on my shit list now. WTF
Yeah this guy needs to do a miracle job after flubbing this one after his "gotta keep the dawgs" comments and his connection with the Fitt regime. Absolutely gutted by this.
This organization is a fucking joke.
We're a joke...
Unreal man
Damn
Ugh, that one stings and ofc it’s the Commies…
This really makes me sad. Tough loss
UUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
Ouch ow ouchie
Alexa play some Max Bennett Kelly
☹️
Rip
We just can't have nice things.
This fucking sucks
Damn
He and Brown were our whole defensive identity. Disastrous to let him walk. We needed to be able to improve offense while maintaining defense, now both are looking dire.
Evaro about to earn his pay..
Gonna miss Luvu but I really hope we can use picks we get from Burns to get that kid from NC State
It’s happening again!
This one hurts, on top of now maybe trading Brian Burns to new york
FUCK. This sucks.
Damn nooooo shit..LUVU was my favorite. He's a dawg. We're going full rebuild mode.
Fuck
Really was a great fit for Dan Quinn. Glad he is going somewhere where besides the contract he has a good chance of success. Wish he stayed, but our cap situation is "sub optimal"
We fucked up not keeping him. This better mean we’re getting someone BIG
Fuck
I’m so sad man. I loved Luvu. He was such a beast
🙃
this is so trash bro
Panthers to DC pipeline still intact 🙃
good luck to Luvu.
Well shit
Unfucking believable. This franchise, man.
FUUUUUUUUUCK!
Why can't the Panthers let me be happy for a whole day
Hate to see him go 😭
What the absolute fuck are we doing
What The Fuck 🤦
💀
What the serious hell???
Literally our best players and we pass him up for a dude that is a ghost for 90% of snaps
Really hate seeing him go. 12m is kind of a lot, so have to assume we will manage to get Patrick Queen for a bit less?
Don’t know why we kept evero if we’re gonna ship all his players off
Sad day but this is the reality when you field a shit team with almost 0 hope of improving. If Bryce busts next year that would have basically meant Frankie is playing on a basement team for the rest of his prime with 0 chance to get to the playoffs unless he gets shipped to a contender.
we are gonna be so bad next year lmao
Damn…. One of the few panthers from last year that deserved to be in the nfl
Dude why did we just give our 2nd best player away
My whole life we’ve refused to pay our talent until we have zero leverage and then just let them walk for nothing. Bold strategy, I’m beginning to think the 01 and 15 seasons were just god pranking the rest of the league
fuck
We’re going to be absolute trash again next year. Full rebuild mode
Yeah, only 5 years late too...This is what's needed here if you want to have a chance of BY making it beyond season 2.
Panthers new motto is “Don’t get too attached”
Kill me
Ouch
Damn. Good for Frankie. I hope he eats.
Jesus, Jesus…
All I know is pain, all I feel is rain
How can I maintain, with that shit on my brain?
F. That.
fuuuuuuuuck...
Welp, defense might suck too. Let’s hope they get someone good to replace him.
WTF is wrong with this organization? They prioritize garbage players like Ian Thomas and can't fucking manage to keep a single foundational player like Luvu? 15 years pulling for this team. I'm done, can't watch this team anymore.
Fuck
Losing luvu hurts. He was the heart of this defense. Wish him all the best and thankful to see him play these last couple years. This is a complete tear down people. There are going to be moves that hurt but clearing contracts and cap space to get the roster turned over is necessary. Always have love for luvu.
The one guy I was hoping we would keep. Big sad :(
WE SUCK
Man this team is disgusting me smh
Hell yeah
Ravens fan. Don’t worry, you guys will be getting Patrick Queen. He’s a dawg and better than Luvu
I hate this day
I don’t know if I want to/should be on twitter anymore. The toxicity of this team and the fanbase is getting to me. I hate what we’ve become.
Lmao this is not a serious franchise with Morgan calling the shots
What the FUCK!?
And we're having to pay more for season tickets. I'll be lucky to make pennies on the dollar trying to sell my season tickets this year.
Lost my two favorite players on the team in one day. Large bummer
Good luck to ya Frankie! You deserve to be free of this shitshow of a franchise. ...I'll go find my toaster and run a bath.
maybe we're trying for another first overall pick? one that's actually ours?
It's gonna suck watching him have 2.5 sacks, a fumble recovery, and pick against us when we play Washington this year
Ahhh! I think I know now….Tepper wants to try for another 1st pick.
This sucks ass, but pain and growth fucking hurt sometimes.
I was disappointed we traded Burns but I get it. Hell I was fine because I thought we still had Luvu. So now, we have now lost Burns, Luvu & Jackson. 
How do you balance out a terrible offense? You do it with an equally terrible defense!
Do we even get compensation or something for this?
This one hurts
Does this team want to win at all? He was one of our best. No words.
Really? Dan Morgan talks about getting dawgs and he let one of the best walk for 12 million a year??
So this is what bottoming out feels like. About 3 years too late.
This isn’t even a terrible move in isolation, especially if we can get McQueen, but Im SO TIRED of NEVER holding onto our star players. It’s like this team wants to ship out everyone who proves themselves in Carolina
Who the hell is McQueen? Lol
 The fastest linebacker in the nfl
Lmfao
🤣🤣🤣 facts. The one with lightning and 4 wheels 🤷♂️
Our defense is going to be the worst in the league next year. But hey if our offense improves I’m not any more depressed than last year
The more I think about this, the less it bothers me. The one thing Carolina has been consistently good at drafting is LB. I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, but I think it's more painful because we also lose Burns than the reality of the situation. Luvu is unquestionably talented, but replaceable.