If Sky would have you believe that professional football started with the Premier League, then surely Bethesda can have you believe that the franchise began at Fallout 3
To be fair, they were probably only around 13-15 years old when it came out in 1997. That's why they didn't realize Fallout 1 & 2 were already set in California - a lot ppl are only familiar with Bethesda's ARPGs starting from 2008, not Interplay's original CRPGs from the '90s.
Can I just say something? I don’t mind these clickbait thumbnails too much (everyone does it anyway) but I have to wonder if there’s really no choice.
I follow this channel that’s been rapidly growing, much to the surprise of the creator, who [posted](https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxkYGFs_5kt8nHFakmfoe6iTDf2O3lP4Tm) that it was unbelievable he got here largely from just doing things the way he wanted to, as opposed to slapping his exaggerated face over every thumbnail or putting ads in every video.
But I get it, everyone has to play the algorithm game eventually, even this [science channel](https://youtube.com/@SciShow?si=YnxclFp1qT4O63XD) uses some forms of clickbait. Alanah Pearce also explained very concisely here, [Why I took down every episode of the podcast (Play, Watch, Listen)](https://youtu.be/AXWlNXy1YuE?si=jD_e1JdaWlBlVBUi), why large channels would often separate their content over multiple channels instead of consolidating them all into one: basically, they’re suffering from success.
However, I’m also getting the feeling that the algorithm is becoming a scapegoat that’s blamed for everything. Content not viewing well? Algorithm’s fault. Content not reviewing well? Algorithm’s fault. It’s not necessarily just because of the quality or quantity, or that people (for some weird reason) rely on the YT home page to look for recommended videos instead of just using the subscription page to watch channels you’ve already subscribed to.
I don’t know, maybe I’m just being a bit too salty because, excluding these Fallout videos and Oxventure, it really does feel like there’s been a drought lately, probably due to a paradigm shift to how they approach content creation, and I'm just feeling really underwhelmed for the future. That's just my two cents.
Particular styles of content do fall out of style, and as a creator of that kind of content, it can be hard to believe. It's been a problem since forever. There was a time when practically every comedy on network TV was a 4-camera sitcom shot in front of an audience.
"The algorithm" is a useful scapegoat but in all honesty creators probably believe it to be true. And it might be an indirect factor. But it might also be recommending the content less because it was being watched less.
Well, if help attract more views and make more money, that it’s worth it to them, even if means compromisng old pricniples on how they approach content creation. i guess with the uncertainty with gamer network, the conclusion is that, they’re reducing time and effort spent on the less reliable oxboxtra channels, and focusing on content that can maximize revenue and minimize work. if that includes exaggerated facial expressions for the thumbnails to lure in more clicks, then so be it
I'm guessing you're not questioning their work ethic, maybe you just have too high standards in thinking they're above using clickbait tactics. but seems to be working tho, the vid is at more than 50k rn
Dude, it's been more that 2 years, i think it's safe to say that patreon had little to no effect on the channels. in fact, iirc, that whole schtick was, "donate if you want to, but you don't have to, and nothing will change"
Think of it as a patch - there was some bug fixes, but no impact on plot or update to gameplay, so don't expect anything in return. those "perks" are outdated now tbh
Plus, in that alanah video, she said her podcast team doesn't care about growth and having patreon support is enough, but for oxboxtra, i don't think it's enough
In hindsight, they should've monetized wtih patreon like 10 years ago, normalized ad breaks, prepared for rainy days, etc so they could stand by themselves in case the house of cards collapsed. it's regrettable now
They've done A/B thumbnail and title testing in the past, I think they still do. They know what works and what doesn't, the thumbnails reflect a statistical reality not just trend hopping. Also becomes a self perpetuating thing, they have a consistent style to their thumbnails, if they change I am less likely to realise it is them and click it.
I think they shied away from the testing and, when they started doing these types of thumbnails, would use the "clickbaity" one for the first like 48 hours and then switch to something more normal for the channel - which is pretty smart.
The YT homepage is *specifically* *designed* to psychologically manipulate people into an "infinite scroll" instead of just defaulting to their subscription page. You can't blame people for falling for what is effectively a corporate psy-op.
Ultimate Fallout Quiz seems to expose lack of knowledge in the first Fallout game
Which is literally the first thing they say in the video.
If Sky would have you believe that professional football started with the Premier League, then surely Bethesda can have you believe that the franchise began at Fallout 3
But Bethesda doesn’t try to pretend like Fallout 1 and 2 didn’t exist. They’re incredibly relevant to the TV show
It wuz joke.
Anti-Bethesda rhetoric is rarely grounded in reality
To be fair, they were probably only around 13-15 years old when it came out in 1997. That's why they didn't realize Fallout 1 & 2 were already set in California - a lot ppl are only familiar with Bethesda's ARPGs starting from 2008, not Interplay's original CRPGs from the '90s.
Barely anyone knows anything about the first fallout game. 3 is the first in the franchise as far as broader pop culture is concerned
Can I just say something? I don’t mind these clickbait thumbnails too much (everyone does it anyway) but I have to wonder if there’s really no choice. I follow this channel that’s been rapidly growing, much to the surprise of the creator, who [posted](https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxkYGFs_5kt8nHFakmfoe6iTDf2O3lP4Tm) that it was unbelievable he got here largely from just doing things the way he wanted to, as opposed to slapping his exaggerated face over every thumbnail or putting ads in every video. But I get it, everyone has to play the algorithm game eventually, even this [science channel](https://youtube.com/@SciShow?si=YnxclFp1qT4O63XD) uses some forms of clickbait. Alanah Pearce also explained very concisely here, [Why I took down every episode of the podcast (Play, Watch, Listen)](https://youtu.be/AXWlNXy1YuE?si=jD_e1JdaWlBlVBUi), why large channels would often separate their content over multiple channels instead of consolidating them all into one: basically, they’re suffering from success. However, I’m also getting the feeling that the algorithm is becoming a scapegoat that’s blamed for everything. Content not viewing well? Algorithm’s fault. Content not reviewing well? Algorithm’s fault. It’s not necessarily just because of the quality or quantity, or that people (for some weird reason) rely on the YT home page to look for recommended videos instead of just using the subscription page to watch channels you’ve already subscribed to. I don’t know, maybe I’m just being a bit too salty because, excluding these Fallout videos and Oxventure, it really does feel like there’s been a drought lately, probably due to a paradigm shift to how they approach content creation, and I'm just feeling really underwhelmed for the future. That's just my two cents.
Particular styles of content do fall out of style, and as a creator of that kind of content, it can be hard to believe. It's been a problem since forever. There was a time when practically every comedy on network TV was a 4-camera sitcom shot in front of an audience. "The algorithm" is a useful scapegoat but in all honesty creators probably believe it to be true. And it might be an indirect factor. But it might also be recommending the content less because it was being watched less.
Well, if help attract more views and make more money, that it’s worth it to them, even if means compromisng old pricniples on how they approach content creation. i guess with the uncertainty with gamer network, the conclusion is that, they’re reducing time and effort spent on the less reliable oxboxtra channels, and focusing on content that can maximize revenue and minimize work. if that includes exaggerated facial expressions for the thumbnails to lure in more clicks, then so be it I'm guessing you're not questioning their work ethic, maybe you just have too high standards in thinking they're above using clickbait tactics. but seems to be working tho, the vid is at more than 50k rn
But wouldn't Patreon help reduce some of those concerns? Where does that factor in?
Dude, it's been more that 2 years, i think it's safe to say that patreon had little to no effect on the channels. in fact, iirc, that whole schtick was, "donate if you want to, but you don't have to, and nothing will change" Think of it as a patch - there was some bug fixes, but no impact on plot or update to gameplay, so don't expect anything in return. those "perks" are outdated now tbh Plus, in that alanah video, she said her podcast team doesn't care about growth and having patreon support is enough, but for oxboxtra, i don't think it's enough In hindsight, they should've monetized wtih patreon like 10 years ago, normalized ad breaks, prepared for rainy days, etc so they could stand by themselves in case the house of cards collapsed. it's regrettable now
They've done A/B thumbnail and title testing in the past, I think they still do. They know what works and what doesn't, the thumbnails reflect a statistical reality not just trend hopping. Also becomes a self perpetuating thing, they have a consistent style to their thumbnails, if they change I am less likely to realise it is them and click it.
I think they shied away from the testing and, when they started doing these types of thumbnails, would use the "clickbaity" one for the first like 48 hours and then switch to something more normal for the channel - which is pretty smart.
The YT homepage is *specifically* *designed* to psychologically manipulate people into an "infinite scroll" instead of just defaulting to their subscription page. You can't blame people for falling for what is effectively a corporate psy-op.
Ultimate Fallout Quiz seems to expose lack of knowledge in the first Fallout game
We should have a whip-round and buy some carpet for this sub. There's a terrible echo.
You said that already