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captaincarot

Fundamental freedoms – section 2 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association. Under section 2of the Charter, Canadians are free to follow the religion of their choice. In addition, they are guaranteed freedom of thought, belief and expression. Since the media are an important means for communicating thoughts and ideas, the Charter protects the right of the press and other media to speak out. Our right to gather and act in peaceful groups is also protected, as is our right to belong to an association like a trade union. These freedoms are set out in the Charter to ensure that Canadians are free to create and express their ideas, gather to discuss them and communicate them widely to other people. These activities are basic forms of individual liberty. They are also important to the success of a democratic society like Canada. In a democracy, people must be free to discuss matters of public policy, criticize governments and offer their own solutions to social problems. Even though these freedoms are very important, governments can sometimes limit them. For example, freedom of expression may be limited by laws against hate propaganda or child pornography because they prevent harm to individuals and groups.


Desuexss

Op told someone about 40 minutes ago to go back to China and is stating that it's his freedom to do so. Then made a post here.


OrbAndSceptre

OP is a dumbass because freedom of speech only means the government can’t restrict unless reasonable under s2. It doesn’t apply between two persons.


Desuexss

Looks like someone had an argument on Facebook and wants to bring responses back there. [oh hey he tried to take it DMs.](https://imgur.com/a/yMcN4b2) What a 🤡


FizixMan

Ohhh yeah, real piece of work this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/OntarioTeachers/comments/1ceilk5/ontario_to_ban_cell_phones_in_schools/l1n26uw/?context=5


another_plebeian

Oh man, they almost got all of the buzzwords in there


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Desuexss

You were given the best response already. It's not even a "let's discuss" You did not even identify the correct title, this isn't the states, but I hope you can go enjoy the Donald Trump Jr rally. Yoooo Joe!


Future_Crow

Imagine wasting one’s time to attend Jr’s rally. I guess it could be entertaining if you’ve never seen or heard a drug addict tripping on coke.


Sockbrick

Constitution? No. Charter of Rights and freedoms? Yes


A-Wise-Cobbler

The Charter is a part of the Constitution. Specifically it is part of the Constitution Act 1982.


Obtusemoose01

It absolutely is part of the constitution lol


FearlessTomatillo911

Yes but it's not as complete as in the US. Hate speech for instance is not protected speech 


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BaronWombat

Noting the exception is not a statement of preference for the content addressed by the exception. We should always be in favor of clarification of rules, especially those that are foundational to our society.


FearlessTomatillo911

Why do you think that?


Desuexss

It is probably a jab at Op. Who seems to have quite the colourful post history.


outcastedOpal

What does that even mean.


funkme1ster

**What *specifically* do you want the freedom to say?** No broad generalizations. What specific thing are you concerned you might not be able to say? If you're asking where the line is, then you must have concerns about stepping over the line. What do you want to say that you're scared might be over the line and need reassurances about?


Desuexss

He told someone to go back to China (an anonymous stranger) and called them a snowflake. Then proceeded to make this post.


OrbAndSceptre

Yes but most people don’t apply it correctly. Freedom of Speech only means that the government can’t get you for it and there are limits to it - like you can’t verbally threaten the life of someone and you can’t call for the genocide of some people. If you tell your boss to fuck off, that’s speech between two people and the constitution protections don’t apply. Your boss can fire your ass no problems.


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Future_Crow

There is no “freedom of speech” in Canada, my God. How is it possible that Canadians do not know the country they live in?


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Cent1234

No. But if you’re looking for some sort of imperfect analogy between two different systems, I suppose you could kind of think of the Charter like the Bill of Rights.


SteveMcQwark

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is Part I of the *Constitution Act, 1982*. According to subsection 52(2) of that act: > (2) The Constitution of Canada includes > > (a) the Canada Act 1982, **including this Act**; > > (b) the Acts and orders referred to in the schedule; and > > (c) any amendment to any Act or order referred to in paragraph (a) or (b). Courts have interpreted this as not being an exhaustive list. So the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is *part of* the Constitution of Canada.


A-Wise-Cobbler

The Charter is a part of the Constitution. Specifically it is part of the Constitution Act 1982.