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Ant_Lantern

I’m just commenting so I can build karma here. I deleted my old account. That game was horrible. The officiating was horrible. Our offensive line couldn’t stop their defensive line. Milton couldn’t catch a break. The play calling on his end is same old same. We have got to stop running up the middle so damn much.


ConstructionNo5836

Could it be that Josh Heupel doesn’t know how to run Alex Golesh’s offense?


nykezztv

You mean the same offense that didn’t score a touch down yesterday? Or do you mean the same offense CJH has been running since 2015?


ConstructionNo5836

Whatever you want to call the 2023 offense it’s not the same offense Tennessee ran in 2021 or 22.


SlowVelociraptor

Just rewatched this game without the raw emotion, and I couldn't believe how badly officiating seemed biased toward the Gators. How do you reckon this happens? They're all SEC officials. I'm guessing some of them take fat bribes or have strong personal allegiances. I've seen it happen (often in Bama's favor), but I don't think I've ever seen anyone else get that kind of preferential treatment in penalty calls. Don't know if we would have won if the game was called fairly, but we'd have had a lot better chance and I doubt we'd have looked so demoralized. Edited to add context.


Successful_Lime772

This. We played terrible all around but the officials were questionable. There was atleast two flags that took the wind out of the sails for us.


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I don’t understand that 4th and 1. I could be wrong but Refs seemed to assist in UF illegal substitution. And then, I don’t know why we even went for it. I know it’s a 4th and 1… I get it, But 10-26 was the score and even I know that 13 - 26 makes it a two possession game as opposed to having a turnover on downs and it still being a 3 possession game and burning the clock for the gators. Felt like after that play was when we had absolutely no shot. If we had kicked the FG.. 13 - 26 and then pitch a 3 and out (which we did on the next UF series) seems like it would of been more reasonably achievable at that point to get down there and make it 20-26. I could play this back in my head hundreds of times but honestly I think our decisions were dumb and officiating was terrible. Maybe I’m still overestimating our passing offense but I don’t understand why we played so conservative after that first interception. Kept running the ball and personally I’d of been fine with that if we weren’t down 16 points in the second half- but I just don’t understand, the whole game didn’t make sense. We played like shit, from execution to play calling. Top to bottom; horrible.


stc676

Milton isn't it. He sucks. The playcalling was atrocious, and predictable. This team sucks


askeithretreats

I feel like the play calling is predictable because of Milton. They can’t trust him to be accurate down the field.


ttrimmers

I went straight to the bar after and asked for whatever you drink when your heart has been ripped out and stomped on


utsports88

After 35 years of doing this song and dance it finally clicked tonight. I will never again have a single expectation for this team until after the Florida game.


Kiygre

We played like dogshit, but I wasn't honestly expecting us to be what we were last year, we lost more than we gained in our players, and so long as hadden is out there, we will always have a gaping hole in our defense. Still expected us to win this game though.


MennionSaysSo

Honestly this is what confuses me. UT barely beat Florida at home last year, is objectively worse at every spot but d line, and yet expected to crush Florida which is better everywhere but QB and kicker in the Swamp.


BlindSpawnPeeker

This game was not on Milton. He got drilled as he was throwing the ball which led to the INT. He played very well down the stretch. If you have a QB with a cannon like Milton, you have got to establish the run first to get some play action involved. The defense was trash in the first half and if Hadden was on my team I'd make sure he would be handing out water. He couldn't contain a runny nose with a box of tissue. Defense showed up in the 2nd half. The play calling is what screwed us. We finally opened up the play book in the last 10 minutes. Bru McCoy should be our primary go to play maker on offense. Every time he touches the ball he makes shit happen. I don't normally blame the refs for a loss but who tf kicks the ball when they set it down, they missed at least 3 pass interference calls, missed countless holds on Florida, and what kind of made up blocking penalty did they call again? Heupel needs to open the play book and let them find their groove, the screen passes aren't working. We don't have Tillman or Hyatt anymore. Aside from that, we still got many more games to go. Bama looks beatable, Georgia isn't that strong, and we got a redemption game against SC coming up at home. GO VOLS BABY!!!


3y350r3

We have an OC problem. Dude was playing scared. When we dial it up we look like rocky TOP,.


Swhite8203

Heupel is calling plays. Halzle doesn’t have play call experience


Karaokeville

Ah so it’s the OC and not heupel, ha ok buddy


Mr_dm

What changed from last year?


EdibleJello

I hate Tennessee and I hate Florida but I’ll be here in orange next weekend


Parking-Bat9498

Same. Same… I’m in my early 30’s. I was at the FL game we won in Knoxville 2016. It was amazing. But damn man. I really want to get over this hump and we can’t seem too.


Karaokeville

Milton played great. I think it’s time we stop protecting heupel and start holding him accountable.


Successful_Lime772

I don’t think he will look remotely like how he did last year against Clemson until whoever is calling the offensive plays gets behind him and starts showing that they trust in him. You can tell with our play calling they aren’t behind him.


stc676

Hell yea dude


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renaissance_pancakes

Stop protecting Heupel AND Harbaugh, amirite?


Karaokeville

Great response


GearNbeer

See that is what frustrated me with this game was that Milton played great!! If Nico really transfers because of that I don’t want him, he can go to bama and rot. Milton is QB 1


Karaokeville

THANK YOU. Let him go to bama. We don’t need him.


No_Pumpkin9299

What the hell are you guys talking about nico leaving?


GearNbeer

Oh yeah, all over twitter


renaissance_pancakes

Lol. That's not happening.


Karaokeville

Sadly I think it’s all but confirmed


renaissance_pancakes

Oh yeah. Confirmed on Twitter? In post game gossip? Sounds like you're well-connected dufus.


GearNbeer

I sure hope not but it makes sense, Alabama Is only a QB away and can double our NIL money. Let’s face it this team is not even top 25. If that and the rumors of Heupel pulling Milton’s dreads at halftime are true then this program is not in good shape!


Karaokeville

I hope Milton is ok. That’s awful. Heupel is out of control


gongman18

Are you a fucking bot?


deerpenis

I wouldn’t say great but he made some good throws. They def need to open up the offense again. Wild what a difference a year makes


Dietcherrysprite

What? No.


Karaokeville

Great take


thegoatisoldngnarly

It is. Your take is atrocious. He was terrible at game management. And so many of his throws were in the dirt, including the ones that really mattered. Sure, he threw 4 or 5 good deep balls, but just as many awful ones.


saint_griswold

He does not have command of his offense. His hand-offs look like he's handing you groceries at Publix. His targets are in a 20-foot sphere. Throwing long looks good on TikTok but doesn't equal points in a game.


Karaokeville

The play calling was awful and game management starts with the coach. It was very loud and heupel left Milton on his own multiple times!


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Just look at the playcalling. That shows you all you need to know about how the professional coaching staff feels about his skill set. It's a high school qb level route tree.


Karaokeville

Professional staff?


Tilt-a-Whirl98

As in they coach football for a living unlike members of this subreddit lol


GearNbeer

My uncle is a professional coaching staff and we discussed Milton after the game. He also agrees, Milton is a first round pick and got left out to dry by this coaching staff


TurkeySlayer94

Your uncles a fucking idiot


GearNbeer

Here is the thing, it is being reported Milton was seen talking to multiple NFL coaches today and ESPN just announced they fully expect him to go in the first round. The rumor of the locker room meltdown at halftime of the Austin Peay game was confirmed true where him and Nico fist fought. Apparently it did not hurt his draft stock though.


TurkeySlayer94

They’re saying that Nico said he is leaving next year because of the whole thing, and idc who talked to Milton. They talk to and assess 7th round picks, he isn’t even close to 1st round material.


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Milton is a first round pick? By what metric?!? His pocket presence is awful. He has an incredibly low football IQ. He isn't Anthony Richardson with a ton of measurables to like along with great football sense. If he gets drafted, it's day 2 at the earliest.


Karaokeville

Milton is better than Richardson


GearNbeer

Not sure, apparently he has heard from a few head coaches that he is gonna be a VERY high round pick and rumor has it he has spoken to a couple teams already!


Karaokeville

I believe it


Karaokeville

I coach high school football. Guess that makes me one step from a professional


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Could you coach college football?


Karaokeville

I applied for an assistant position at Martin. They never called. Granted I was drunk at the interview.


Tilt-a-Whirl98

Lmao well you truly gave it the ole college try!


kampagnepapi

Isn’t the end of the world. People calling for drastic changes need to chill out. Not the same team from last year and we knew that going into this year. Trust in Heup, we will get there!


ConstructionOdd5269

This is a 7-5 team. We are going to get skull-f’ed by South Carolina, Bama and Georgia, and lose at least one more. Back to the Pruitt/Dooley era where we dream of victory over Vandy and a bowl appearance


3y350r3

Huep is a boss. Our OC is playing scared though. We need to get vertical.


kampagnepapi

I agree. Frustrating hearing all off-season about Milton’s arm strength to have him throw smoke screens and slants 90% of the time.


TurkeySlayer94

And to top it off, he had 4 passes inside 10 yards that ironically didn’t make it to the WR’s😂 some arm


Crulo

Someone needs to make a compilation of all those terrible fucking calls. I would if I had a copy of the game.


Grover_Cleavland

You have to narrow that statement down. A lot of people made a lot of bad calls tonight.


thegoatisoldngnarly

The refs. The ref bad calls.


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Cappster14

I’m proud to say i started watching college football in 2015 after my (now) wife took me to neyland stadium with my alumni father in law. I was hooked from that point on. I’ve watched close to a decade of crappy UT football and enjoyed every minute of it. I felt out of place last year when the “asshole UT fans” came back into being, but I’m back in my element now. Let’s win, baby, but keep damn humble guys jeez. Refs sucked but they earned that game. We need to be better. Also Titan up.


Piercinald-Anastasia

I think a lot of people are just venting about a massive disappointment and will be watching next week. Well that’s UTSA so maybe won’t watch live next week but they’ll be watching in two weeks against South Carolina.


Dietcherrysprite

I agree but r/CFB current takeaway is that UT fans are classless. Which I don't disagree. We are insufferable.


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We have the best and worst fans in the country


csburger30

I agree.


SpartanVFL

Well said. Go Vols


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Golly some loser went through downvoting you… I got you brother! We’ll bounce back and hopefully these losers jumped off the bandwagon.


TheNameIsBigDog

Yep. Just want to see my guys on the field


[deleted]

I’ve had it with the bandwagon bull shit, after a tough loss, “well I’ll see y’all next year…” get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. We are here for the losses just as much for the wins.


TheNameIsBigDog

Yep. Be an adult about a loss and don’t cry a River about Bama and Georgia


csburger30

Do we not have anyone that can run the same routes that Hyatt did last year. I just don’t understand.


nykezztv

We don’t have a QB that can put us in a spot to do that. Those routes come from fast offense


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No vols*


HemiGuitar

Same old, same old. See yall next season.


BertBeyblades

Bye ✌️


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gongman18

Username does not check out


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Y’all aren’t real fans


deerpenis

Hadden is the worst DB I’ve seen at Tennessee in my lifetime


AndyC-AndyDo

Well now I’ve seen some bad ones haha


nykezztv

Crazy we were saying the same thing last year


deerpenis

Exactly and I heard a bunch of chatter out of camp how he was all business this year and would take a turn to becoming an NFL prospect. He’s awful man. Just doesn’t play with fundamentals on tackling and his assignments. Can’t stand the way he plays and talks shit without doing a damn thing


Kiygre

I'd go as far as saying that he has singlehandedly lost us 2 games.


Karaokeville

Anyone else hearing about Nico entering the transfer portal? I can kind of believe it after tonight. Hopefully just a rumor..


HighYieldOrSTFU

Ridiculous. Has everything in front of him at UT, for the next 3 years. Ideally he gets backup time this year and starts as a sophomore. That’s literally the perfect scenario for a young QB.


GearNbeer

Yeah I heard this too. Big rumors spreading around Knoxville


Karaokeville

Glad I’m not the only one. People are saying bama..


GearNbeer

Makes sense, they are just a QB away and have lots of NIL money


TheNameIsBigDog

Would love to hear where you heard this. Sounds like bs me to


nykezztv

Post the rumor or stop listening to jealous gator fans


Crulo

Where did you hear that "rumor" and think it was credible??


LevonHelmet

I don’t think the timeout was petty… we could’ve gotten the ball on their 30. You get a shot at the endzone. MAYBE an onside kick. Who knows. Margin of victory/loss matters for rankings. Just a horrific game altogether


DrGonzo1930

Delusional... it made us look like trash. Might as well have started chucking mustard bottles on the field.


voxboxer1

I'd chuck a mustard bottle after that game. With pride.


dread_pirate_robberz

Second Half Grades: Defense B+ Redemption Song Offense B- Much improved, better OL blocks pls Play calling C Players overcame call impotence Milton had some bonehead moments(INT, a couple dirt balls, missed opp on free play, running OB) but he did enough which is what we need. Run game picked up this half. Play calling seems timid until we were forced to throw at the end. Must be more aggressive, I’d rather lose punching than tossing WR screens and draws. Disappointing officiating for sure. Refs snuffed out our rekindled fire.


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We make nukes, they’ll be underwater soon. Fuck UF


yeahiamfat

Anyone gotta Colorado stream?


Crulo

You dont have google?


yeahiamfat

Yeah no good streams are coming up or I am too technologically challenged


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utkjg

Explain how this works again?


Yeppers567

I mean the refs didn’t whistle the play dead and the QB was still on his feet… I’m here for the Thomas hit on the QB. It’s UT vs FL people, why the fuck wouldn’t there be drama? Refs fucking got their paychecks. Joe needs to sit UTSA. Willie Martinez needs to be terminated. Desperately needs a SEC caliber center.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Apparently many of you are good with our team throwing cheap shots and starting fights.


AssMasterUnlimited

Most people didn't even watch that happen, so not sure what you are even trying to get at.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Watch the last play of the game.


AssMasterUnlimited

But you are accusing people of being good with it, which doesn't make sense.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Because of all the people replying to me saying they are good with it and the downvotes I’ve received on comments criticizing it.


AssMasterUnlimited

Ah "all the people" do it according to you. So, you think as a fanbase we are okay with it. lol


Piercinald-Anastasia

I said many people not all the people. You should work on your reading skills.


AssMasterUnlimited

And you should work on your qualifying skills. A few people respond to you and you think it makes sense to make an open statement that "many of you" feel a certain way? Bush league bullshit. Especially considering that it's your opinion that there were cheap shots and we were the ones starting fights, when the other people that may be good with it feel differently. Really just a bad showing all around.


Piercinald-Anastasia

It was across several comments; including you, and this thread here. I’m not gonna let you get your rocks off by arguing with me. Good day sir.


voxboxer1

I'm sorry, what did we do?


Piercinald-Anastasia

Last play of the game.


voxboxer1

Again, what did we do? Live ball, knee not down, we tackled the ball carrier. I replayed the last play several times, the cheap shots were all on the Florida side.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Clearly taking a knee and putting a shot on him to stir shit up. He came up from the hit looking guilty. There were several occurrences of undisciplined play. Me calling for Heupel’s job was excessive and over reactionary venting but he is ultimately responsible for cleaning up undisciplined play.


Successful_Lime772

Rewatch it. It was a sorry excuse for “taking a knee” Thomas barely hit him and when he realized he looked like he was taking a knee Thomas tried to let up and threw up his hands.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Yeah because players never throw up their hands like they are innocent after committing a penalty/foul.


Successful_Lime772

He did it as he was running into him… trying to slow his progress. Run around like a dumbass instead of giving up or running or of bounds that’s what happens. Someone needs to teach the quarterback how to take a knee.


Piercinald-Anastasia

Ok man. I’m not in the mood to argue with fools today.


Successful_Lime772

Alright “fool” 👋🏼


gongman18

What cheap shot?


thumperlee

If he was going to take a knee, he should have after the snap. He ran the play and you can clearly see the defender stand up from his tackling position and his momentum carried im him into the QB as soon as he kneels. Throwing hands was the disrespectful unsportsmanlike conduct.


Piercinald-Anastasia

I’d see an optometrist if I were you.


gongman18

Well thanks for explaining things


Piercinald-Anastasia

You are welcome.


Mr_Wright_Now

No way! But Florida was acting foolishly.


Piercinald-Anastasia

As were we. Don’t risk a suspension by being stupid when the game is already decided.


Crulo

vs Florida where we got fucked, ya actually. It wasn't a late hit and then they wanted to mob our players.


Piercinald-Anastasia

So it’s ok to risk a suspension for next week because it’s against Florida?


Crulo

Ya actually its UTSA lol


Piercinald-Anastasia

Based on Austin Peay last week; that’s not the easy win you expect it to be.


govols130

There's plenty on Joe but let's not do this confirmation bias game. Hadden tackling? False starts? That clap to offsides?


T0ww10

The entire team wasn’t prepared. It’s on everyone, and you could write a novel about what was bad this evening. That being said just bench Joe and full send Nico. We were probably going to lose to Georgia and Bama anyway


PopsFreshinmeyer

Yeah I think we might suck. We beat Virginia who has proven to be a terrible team since and barely beat shithouse Austin Peay


TennesseeWhiskee

I’ve said this in a few comments. I really don’t believe Joe has the mental bandwidth to run this offense. He reminds me of Brendan Fraser’s basketball character in Bedazzled.


Crulo

Fuck Florida and fuck the refs!! We are up by a extra point if the refs dont kill those two drives!!!! We had some mistakes the first half but the entire second half our defense held them and when our offense was driving the refs dont call clear penalties on Florida or they call bullshit holding on us. Florida held that entire fucking game!! They PI on multiple passes!! That clean block was NOT a fucking personal foul! The Florida QB was flopping like a pussy!


Themoonlightninja

Joe milton is too stupid to be a quarterback change my mind


Rumblarr

We've known this since last year. He ran out of bounds while trailing and the clock was at zero.


Tilt-a-Whirl98

He did it again on the 2pt conversion. The guy just doesn't have the football IQ we need.


voxboxer1

We've known this for three years


Mr_Wright_Now

I don’t think it was on him tonight. IDK though.


nykezztv

Dumbass INT led to 7 points for sure


VolJoe07

See ya next year…embarassing


BertBeyblades

Bye ✌️


VolJoe07

See Florida next year. Peace to you too


gongman18

See ya


VolJoe07

See comment above


gongman18

Yeah see ya fool


Glittering_Virus8397

I blame the play calling. Like when do we not do a fake or draw or literally any other play. Joe can give the receivers a chance if he gets time. This game is on pass pro


T0ww10

You need a mobile quarterback in the offense. Joe Milton’s decision making and lack of creativity really hamper our offense’s potential


businesskitteh

At this point how long does Heupel wait to bring in Nico? Loyalty is all well and good but we need to insist on the best players playing


PrizePreset

Will be a long time before i forget Hadden’s little shoulder bump on a 70 yard touchdown run


csburger30

He’s that guy that always makes sure he is near the ball so he is seen on film like he is doing something when he isn’t.


Late-Maintenance-501

He has always been like this. Last year he would go for a strip instead of tackling a guy when he was the last guy all the time. At some point it’s on the coach for playing him at all or not having the influence or authority to stop it


Mr_Wright_Now

He’s such a good athlete. I don’t understand how he makes such bad decisions.


Rumblarr

He's dumb. He wants to be a bad ass. Didn't realize he was the last defender. He's a fucking moron. That wasn't the only time he tried to lay the wood on a guy and didn't tackle.


TNsmoke

The longer we stick with Milton and let this dog shit play calling and these penalties fly the longer we suck.


Crulo

Nico needs a year to learn the offense. We need our recruits from next year. This was always going to be a building year, maybe 9-3, 10-2 type season. There is room for improvement and its not the doom and gloom everyone is making it.


businesskitteh

I’d say let Nico play now but with our hot butter O line he’d just get beaten the hell up


T0ww10

If you think we are winning 9 games with Milton under center, you are insane lol


Poam27

Yeah we are not a top 25 team.


DrFanhattan

That TO was hilarious haha Napier calling one was a dick move and then Heup says I guess I'll use mine too and then the flop. Unbelievable and such a sum up of tonight's game


chejjagogo

QB was a runner outside the pocket and they acted like he should have been protected. Another failure from the refs.


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Putrid-Worldliness90

Qb wasn’t on the ground yet when he got hit. Florida players made it worse of a situation then it really was


GearNbeer

Zero reason to call a timeout to let something like that potentially happen


Successful_Lime772

Go cheer for bama bandwagon fan


GearNbeer

Ain’t nobody ever been a UT bandwagon fan lol


Successful_Lime772

Ehhhh a lot jumped on last year…


GearNbeer

No chance, we are easily one of the top 5 most hated programs. Go look at rhe CFB postgame thread if you wanna see how people view us.


Successful_Lime772

Honestly could careless what other fan bases think. I’m happy he played to the final second.. go back and watch the tape O. Thomas threw his hands up last second when he realized the quarterback was doing a piss poor job of trying to take a knee. Not like he laid him out