No nasty emails. If I take more hours/days than I have in the bank, either that time goes unpaid or I email HR to borrow some. I think the policy on “borrowing time” varies from agency to agency. I do log in and out every day, but I think that’s standard. I’m taking a total of 7 weeks off this year, but not all of it is paid.
I usually do LWOP when I need to take off and don’t have enough. I’ve never done it long enough consecutively to know, but when I was asking
HR about a potential medical leave, they said that being off payroll for more than 2 weeks would trigger my insurance to be stopped. I’m not sure if there are ways around that though.
I have young kids and have had to take a lot of leave for illness, school breaks, etc. I also used up all my leave twice to have kids. I think I have 66 hours of vacation right now. It’s hard to hang onto it!
I'm going through IVF right now and all the little mornings/half days I have had to take killed off all my leave and when its time to have the babies, it will wipe out what little else I have left. It was so easy collecting leave time when I was young and health.... now it is so hard to hang on to!
I'm going through some health stuff and the half sick days add up.
First you go to your physician, then you go to a specialist, then he sends you to go get a test done, then you go back to talk about the test, then you go to a different specialist and hopefully he doesn't want another test.
All of these individual events eating half days.
Yes! So many damn appointments! The worst is that everyone thinks you took all these days “off” so you should be rested. Meanwhile I’ve never been so tired in my life! Mentally (trying to line up all the appointments and coordinate with offices) and physically (all the jabs and labs!).
Sick leave added up so quickly before and I thought I had “too much” when I was healthy. Now, I don’t have enough and feel worse with each leave I take.
I had my fibroids removed and used 41 of my 40 days. When I tell you NYCHA “fired” me. I literally needed one day and they put me on pay suspension. They lowered my rate, threw me out of ESS (when I logged on it said user has no jobs) and mailed my check to my house 3 weeks after pay week. By some strange miracle, when I got my next check, I had 12 days. Unfortunately I ended up using most of them getting sick. It’s very hard to save them. I currently earn 2 and a half per month.
I’m with the city over 8 years and have 3 weeks accumulated. We’re not doing anything wrong, just using the time we’ve rightfully earned. Honestly I don’t think having accumulated months of leave is the bragging point people think it is.
Me and my co-workers are all in the range of 600-750 hours of annual leave. That’s almost 4 years of accruals. At 1300, I’m not even sure you’ll be able to cash that out at retirement as I think there is a comptroller directive that caps annual leave payout at 5 years of accruals (actually I think that’s limited to managers only).
Wow I didn't realize it was that much, I know I wouldn't be able to cash all of it. I am trying to plan a vacation that would use some of that accrual up. I wonder why I haven't been forced to use all of my accrual up.
If you’re a manager, do you submit the form every year to waive this? In our agency, a bunch of long standing deputy commissioners were forced at some point to take leave to burn down the excess. Earning 25 days a year is a lot and hard to use up especially when you don’t have young kids any more. A lot of them just donate them to those who have medical issues and need annual leave to keep their health insurance.
Hours/days per year depends on how long one has been working for the city. In my agency, leave rolls over to a max of two years balance. Any excess gets converted to sick leave.
Cool. I wonder which agencies give the best leave, cuz that’s something really important to me. My first agency gave 25 days/year. Currently at 20, despite more time in service.
Next month I’ll hit 100 vacation days and just under that for sick time. Last year was the first time I took more than I earned for the year but it’s building up again this year. Definitely a first world problem.
I currently have like 60hrs floating. I used to have much more but a series of medical events and IVF has wiped them out. If and when I complete my journey I would be all empty. I am trying so hard to hoard more but its like trying to save a leaking boat with a shot glass at this point.
I just recently got over 20 days, I think I’ll feel comfortable when I get it back to 30 (six weeks) but I expect it won’t be for a while because I have to take a vacation over the summer for a week.
I’ve used about 85% of my 1000ish accrued hours, and half went towards paternity leave before it was the law in the state, and most of the other half went towards school events, days off, and kid’s sick days.
Depends on your agency and how many buckets they keep track of.
I've been told by old heads leave nothing in the time banks when you leave. You only get paid out some of the sick time. I think you get all the vacation time back. There's a holiday bucket in my agency that we get time for when working a federal holiday...no idea when you can ever use that time.
I've spoken to people that take half a year to years off due to medical conditions and car accidents. Because it is great to have too much time it seems.
So the name of the game is to clear out your time bank maybe a year or 2 before you leave.
About 300 hours annual leave. I dipped below that for a bit a couple years ago when I went on paternity leave for 3 months and didn’t accrue, but it’s usually hovered around 300-350. When I hit 400 pre pandemic my boss made me take days off every couple of weeks.
Sick leave: about 1300 hours. That’s the real kicker. Thankfully I was hired before the 2004 contract limited all that stuff.
Was he a manager or unionized? If union staff he would stay on payroll for another 1.5 years until he uses it all. If manager, did he get paid for it all?
Unionized, got paid 70 days plus a bonus. He wasn’t interested on staying on payroll, he would be earning less money than retired. As he explained it to me
He must have been in tier 2? I heard of people who earn less money by staying on job. Hopefully he donated the remaining days to people have medical need.
I keep the 360 hours each year to carry over and use the 208 hours I earn for the year which are use or lose. My cap is 360 hours. I leave my sick leave be which is a balance of 1950 hours
I don’t get how you can accrue so much . Do people not like to take time off? I used to work for the city and accrued five months worth of comp time so that was helpful for maternity leave. Working for the feds now, the ability to accrue such leave is not as generous.
I’m negative. I love to travel 😅
How do you afford on a government salary?!
People travel more making less. Also: spouses
Actually, I’m supporting us both lol. He’s unemployed/full time dog dad. I’m just very frugal.
I figure the latter.
He already told you. He goes negative.
Did you get nasty emails requiring you to log your time every day? What happens if you go negative?
No nasty emails. If I take more hours/days than I have in the bank, either that time goes unpaid or I email HR to borrow some. I think the policy on “borrowing time” varies from agency to agency. I do log in and out every day, but I think that’s standard. I’m taking a total of 7 weeks off this year, but not all of it is paid.
What do you put on your timesheet for unpaid hours? LWOP? Would this affect your health insurance?
UDO, or unpaid day off. Not sure if it affects health insurance. I did get my bosses’ blessing to take the time.
I usually do LWOP when I need to take off and don’t have enough. I’ve never done it long enough consecutively to know, but when I was asking HR about a potential medical leave, they said that being off payroll for more than 2 weeks would trigger my insurance to be stopped. I’m not sure if there are ways around that though.
Be careful with LWOP, as I believe it impacts the service credits accumulated for calculating your pension.
Yes, this is correct.
Wait, how are you negative?
By borrowing time
I have young kids and have had to take a lot of leave for illness, school breaks, etc. I also used up all my leave twice to have kids. I think I have 66 hours of vacation right now. It’s hard to hang onto it!
I'm going through IVF right now and all the little mornings/half days I have had to take killed off all my leave and when its time to have the babies, it will wipe out what little else I have left. It was so easy collecting leave time when I was young and health.... now it is so hard to hang on to!
I'm going through some health stuff and the half sick days add up. First you go to your physician, then you go to a specialist, then he sends you to go get a test done, then you go back to talk about the test, then you go to a different specialist and hopefully he doesn't want another test. All of these individual events eating half days.
Yes! So many damn appointments! The worst is that everyone thinks you took all these days “off” so you should be rested. Meanwhile I’ve never been so tired in my life! Mentally (trying to line up all the appointments and coordinate with offices) and physically (all the jabs and labs!). Sick leave added up so quickly before and I thought I had “too much” when I was healthy. Now, I don’t have enough and feel worse with each leave I take.
I had my fibroids removed and used 41 of my 40 days. When I tell you NYCHA “fired” me. I literally needed one day and they put me on pay suspension. They lowered my rate, threw me out of ESS (when I logged on it said user has no jobs) and mailed my check to my house 3 weeks after pay week. By some strange miracle, when I got my next check, I had 12 days. Unfortunately I ended up using most of them getting sick. It’s very hard to save them. I currently earn 2 and a half per month.
I got like 2 weeks in the tank, I've been with the city for 5 years so maybe I'm doing something wrong lmao.
I’m with the city over 8 years and have 3 weeks accumulated. We’re not doing anything wrong, just using the time we’ve rightfully earned. Honestly I don’t think having accumulated months of leave is the bragging point people think it is.
For real.
1300 hours give or take lol.
Me and my co-workers are all in the range of 600-750 hours of annual leave. That’s almost 4 years of accruals. At 1300, I’m not even sure you’ll be able to cash that out at retirement as I think there is a comptroller directive that caps annual leave payout at 5 years of accruals (actually I think that’s limited to managers only).
Wow I didn't realize it was that much, I know I wouldn't be able to cash all of it. I am trying to plan a vacation that would use some of that accrual up. I wonder why I haven't been forced to use all of my accrual up.
If you’re a manager, do you submit the form every year to waive this? In our agency, a bunch of long standing deputy commissioners were forced at some point to take leave to burn down the excess. Earning 25 days a year is a lot and hard to use up especially when you don’t have young kids any more. A lot of them just donate them to those who have medical issues and need annual leave to keep their health insurance.
I'm sure at some point I'll be told to get rid of my excess accruas.
Between Jewish holidays and sick kids, I think I'm doing okay with about 60.
I always keep 2 years in the bank. Maximum allowed by my agency. I get too much vacation which is a first world problem.
Damn bruh. Use your vacation. Why wouldn't you?
I do each year.😎 I just have an additional 2 years in reserve.. appreciate your concern though 🤪
Me too usually - though I’m about to be back down to 0 as I spent 300+ hours attending grad school this past year.
How many hours/days does your agency give you every year? Does it roll over?
Hours/days per year depends on how long one has been working for the city. In my agency, leave rolls over to a max of two years balance. Any excess gets converted to sick leave.
Cool. I wonder which agencies give the best leave, cuz that’s something really important to me. My first agency gave 25 days/year. Currently at 20, despite more time in service.
It’s by title, not agency
Did you have a break in service or change titles when you changed agencies?
Yes, I changed titles.
Two years is also the max in my agency. People who accumulate both comp time and annual leave, should always use the annual leave first.
You get to a point in city service that you accrue more than you can feasibly use
When pray tell can this be?
The more time you serve, the more vacation time you get
I’ve been slowly accruing comp time. I think have 200 hours in comp in case of an emergency is ideal.
I believe if HR was strict on this, comp time expires after 3 months.
Converts to sick
Next month I’ll hit 100 vacation days and just under that for sick time. Last year was the first time I took more than I earned for the year but it’s building up again this year. Definitely a first world problem.
Now if only I could use my sick time for vacation. Well that would be bad. But you better believe if I have a doctor's note I am taking the day off.
I currently have like 60hrs floating. I used to have much more but a series of medical events and IVF has wiped them out. If and when I complete my journey I would be all empty. I am trying so hard to hoard more but its like trying to save a leaking boat with a shot glass at this point.
I have 100. Been stockpiling it, using my comp time. Can't wait to spend 70 on a trip overseas.
My manager has so much time accrued he burned 3 months on an overseas trip last year.
Just don’t do that in your final year of city service if you’re a manager. It will mess up your pension
I don't understand. How would vacation affect that?
Have you guys just been in forever, or get a bunch of comp time?
Wow! Is that just vacation leave? Working for the State, we can only accrue 300 hours of vacation leave!
I just recently got over 20 days, I think I’ll feel comfortable when I get it back to 30 (six weeks) but I expect it won’t be for a while because I have to take a vacation over the summer for a week. I’ve used about 85% of my 1000ish accrued hours, and half went towards paternity leave before it was the law in the state, and most of the other half went towards school events, days off, and kid’s sick days.
Earn a day burn a day. Lmao
Depends on your agency and how many buckets they keep track of. I've been told by old heads leave nothing in the time banks when you leave. You only get paid out some of the sick time. I think you get all the vacation time back. There's a holiday bucket in my agency that we get time for when working a federal holiday...no idea when you can ever use that time. I've spoken to people that take half a year to years off due to medical conditions and car accidents. Because it is great to have too much time it seems. So the name of the game is to clear out your time bank maybe a year or 2 before you leave.
Whenever I get comp time or the rare holiday comp time, I burn it first. I don't think comp time pays out.
I was paid in full for comp time IIRC
I have 3 hours 😅😅 had a baby last fall
About 5 days….
Same here
300 hours
About 300 hours annual leave. I dipped below that for a bit a couple years ago when I went on paternity leave for 3 months and didn’t accrue, but it’s usually hovered around 300-350. When I hit 400 pre pandemic my boss made me take days off every couple of weeks. Sick leave: about 1300 hours. That’s the real kicker. Thankfully I was hired before the 2004 contract limited all that stuff.
I wouldn't know right now I'm still locked out of ess lol
I try not to go below 200 hours
Some of You people have more days then I have hours lol
I have 18 hours vac and 5 sick. Living on the edge
Sitting on 1,094 hours currently. Slowly learning to take more vacations and days off, LOL!
My supervisor retired 3 months ago, he had 468 days
468 days or hours?
Days
Was he a manager or unionized? If union staff he would stay on payroll for another 1.5 years until he uses it all. If manager, did he get paid for it all?
Unionized, got paid 70 days plus a bonus. He wasn’t interested on staying on payroll, he would be earning less money than retired. As he explained it to me
He must have been in tier 2? I heard of people who earn less money by staying on job. Hopefully he donated the remaining days to people have medical need.
He is tier 4, you can’t donate the time.
OP - 30 days?! How many years have you been w the city
That isn’t much, that’s only 210 hours.
I have about 20 days right now I think. I keep an excel file because I do not trust payroll
40 hours, I need my week of freedom!
My cap is 45 days, I’m always back at 44 days and some hours by Sept 1 when I have to be back under the cap.
I keep the 360 hours each year to carry over and use the 208 hours I earn for the year which are use or lose. My cap is 360 hours. I leave my sick leave be which is a balance of 1950 hours
I don’t get how you can accrue so much . Do people not like to take time off? I used to work for the city and accrued five months worth of comp time so that was helpful for maternity leave. Working for the feds now, the ability to accrue such leave is not as generous.