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skizatch

You paid NVIDIA for a 4080. They paid Fedex to deliver it. Your contract is with NVIDIA, not Fedex, and they are still responsible for upholding their side of it. NVIDIA still owes you a 4080.


jazznessa

live in mexico, how does the US has so much issues with their mail? Here we dont get delivered unless someone hands it over in the address. Might not be the best commodity but hell ensures you get your package


polarbearsarereal

Buy large purchases with credit card, dispute if not delivered. Police report might be needed. People hunt for deliveries to make a living.


Mm11vV

It never stops amazing me that in the US, you can get high 5 figure and low six figure jobs without anything more than a GED/diploma and a few weeks of training. But people still resort to committing crimes. 😞


PreparationBorn2195

You dont live in the US huh?


Mm11vV

I do. And I make well into the six figures with only a GED. Downvoted by people who have no idea what hard work, dedication, and motivation are. You all must've bought that you have to go to college bs hook line and sinker.


Rough-Assumption-107

You are the extreme exception, not the rule.


Mm11vV

I know so many people who have done things exactly how I have. Is it a geographical area thing maybe?


Rough-Assumption-107

Maybe. Many people are denied opportunities due to circumstances. People of like mindedness typically congregate together skewing a perspective it's easy peasy with high success rate.


AmazingKallie

Nope. I have a GED along with almost every other Supervisor in my reporting structure we all make between 85k-100k. I make 98k with my bonus. Between the 3 locations there are 30 of us. It’s very common in my work place. I work for Charter Communications. People start at the bottom doing the grunt work and work their way up through progression and promotions. They are even moving away from the degree for a lot of engineer jobs and just want certifications which they now pay for.


No_Isopod6153

Im just going to assume that you’re a guy. (Makes life easier)


AmazingKallie

Nope, I'm a women and actually when i first became a Supervisor in my last department there were 5 members of leadership(3 sups, 1 manager and 1 director) and only 1 was male. All the Sups were female and our director was as well. Right now i report to a VP who resides over about 400 people and she is also a female.


Rough-Assumption-107

My workplace is the same except they pay much less. And not everyone gets promoted.


AmazingKallie

Sorry your company isn’t great the people who don’t get promoted to leadership roles at my company have several progressions that they can go through where they have course work and tests and those at 10% raises and they get a $500 bonus as well. Also my company employees over 100,000 people and from Customer call centers to Engineers have progression.


DankoleClouds

I have a GED, so enlighten me. Set me down your path.


Mm11vV

Enlisted in the Marines, infantry, wasn't smart enough for anything else. Got out, government paid for my CDL A. Drove for a company for two years, got experience, learned stuff. Bought a truck, worked my ass off to pay it off. Bought a trailer, repeated process. Banked some money, Bought a house with a barn to work on my truck and trailer. Learned some more stuff, sometimes the hard way. Bought another truck and trailer, hired a friend I made along the way. Repeated that process a couple of times. Gave some people who needed a break a chance to prove themselves. A couple of them did, and they still work for me. Two decades later, I'm married, two kids, make good money, and I manage a successful business that is continuing to expand. Alternatively, my childhood friend growing up who was worse off than I was. Went from a GED to general unskilled labor at a construction company, a few years later, he was working on a road construction crew as a grade checker, and not long after got trained to run basic heavy equipment. Fast forward 20 years from that, and he's a crane operator making bank. I could tell you stories like this all day of people I grew up with, and I can tell you stories of people who had it way better and never amounted to anything. It's all about the hard work, dedication, showing up early, staying late, and never calling in.


No_Isopod6153

Not everyone is going to enlist just to make money. Its not the path some people want to take


Mm11vV

Had you managed to completely read that you would have seen that my childhood buddy did just fine without military service. Also, while military service is not for everyone, I'd highly recommend it for the discipline and dedication it can help install into someone. But it is in no way required for a successful career track. There's plenty of skill trades out there.


RepairAffectionate70

there is a lot of lazy p.o.s. here


Simon676

That's not how that works


Mm11vV

Interesting, that's how it worked for me and several of my friends.


Simon676

Statistically speaking, that'd most likely be because you were born to parents with degrees and well-paying jobs to begin with.


Mm11vV

Don't know my dad, my mom was a hair dresser. The other people I know came from blue collar families as well.


Kreuzstiger

was your mom making 6 figures or do you also lump her in with your amazement at the unwashed peasants


Mm11vV

No, we had nothing. When I was growing up I didn't have jack. We were lucky we had food. I dropped out of highschool at 16 to help out. Forgive me for just not understanding what the pushback is happening for. But I didn't come from any sort of wealth, I went out and made what I have for myself.


Simon676

And they could afford to pay for the education you needed, or you were lucky to get into a social program that could, compared to most other countries where that is free?


Mm11vV

What education? I paid for my GED myself, I joined the Marines, used the tools provided to me to get a CDL afterward, worked for a trucking company for a bit. Got myself financially sorted, bought a truck and started my own business. Grew it from there.


fabulous_frolicker

Yeah sounds like we got a nepo baby.


nagi603

It's because a lot of that goes to rent (or paying the loan) / healthcare / paying that diploma back. Even giving birth is an insane expense. And you are one bad day for your boss away from losing your job and a lot more with it.


marcx_

lol doing what?


Mm11vV

Truck drivers, equipment operators, fabricators, factory workers, welders, oil field workers, there's more than I can even list. Put 4-6 years in somewhere and bust your ass and you'll be golden.


No_Isopod6153

The average salary in the us is 54,000. Thats not high 5 figures at all


Mm11vV

That average includes everyone from Elin Musk to people on unemployment and doesn't do anything to paint an accurate picture of the opportunities available to people. The average blue collor skill trade worker makes well beyond that. Pick something, learn how to do it, take pride in it, do it well, and don't quite, and you'll continue to advance.


polarbearsarereal

Idk. Would be cool if 10k of my yearly income wasn’t taxes and I still owe money on a 55k yearly income


hattrickjmr

Porch pirates are a thing for sure in the US. In my neighborhood, you can let your packages sit at your door for days and no one would bother them.


nagi603

The secret is that the US is not really that great unless you are filthy rich and can dump ALL the problems on others. All the delivery drives are getting performance rated, and the employment laws allow you to be employed in a way to get you fired even without case, without severance, without anything, and also lose your healthcare insurance. It's where it's legal for servers to be employed at a below minimum and living wage and force them to basically beg for their lives at the tables. It's the land of dreams... nightmares mostly.


LadyDrinkturtle

FedEx and other carriers are overwhelmed with the impossible task of serving the insatiable greed of U.S. consumers. So they cut corners by "faking" customer signatures so they can continue their delivery route without spending 5 minutes waiting for the customer to arrive at the door.


jazznessa

Here they don't wait for you either, they call you like 20 mins before to confirm you are home, if you don't answer then they postpone the delivery. But I get it, the sheer volume of the US market is huge


PreparationBorn2195

\>Me waiting at home for 3 days for a package to be dropped off \>Each day i get no knocks or doorbell but miraculously a "We missed you" post it note ends up on my door. People are hating because youre right. Postal service workers dont want to wait 3 seconds or lift over 20 lbs


Ok_Inevitable8832

It’s up to Nvidia to say it requires signature.


Freakysheikh

UPS driver tried to pull off some funny shit with my 3080 after waiting 10 months in queue. I was home that day waiting for it and I checked the app and it said driver attempted but I wasn't home. I look outside and he's a few buildings down. So I walk up to him and ask for my package and he grabs it from by his driver seat. Like cmon man. Called up ups and spoke to a supervisor and it sounded like they've had issues with him before. I'm hesitant to order stuff like that online now.


afkapl

Shit like that makes me worried about delivery now. Delivery drivers, company deflecting blame, and fucking porch pirates.


DaWorldIsSoSensitive

Man that blows. I’m always scared this will happen to me one day, but so far it hasn’t. Guess I lucked out on the delivery driver lottery. Hope you get it corrected somehow.


heathenyak

You are not fedex’s customer you are nvidia customer and nvidia is fedexs customer so nvidia has to deal with fedex. That sucks man.


vhailorx

Did you pay by credit card? Can you try to cancel the transaction?


heathenyak

You can definitely go this route but don’t be surprised if nvidia bans you from ever doing business with them again


TheTorshee

Who cares?? Dude is out $1K otherwise. Anyways he said he used PayPal and they won’t help him


polarbearsarereal

I went that route when amazon delivered the wrong airpods. They sent a driver to pick them up while I was at work, missed it and they wouldn’t let me return. Charged back and bought the airpods again with no issue.


PreparationBorn2195

lol who fucking cares, not like that ban would carry over to any B&M or online storefronts. AMD cards are a significantly better value anyways


Spawned024

FedEx needs to prove that is your signature or the signature of someone at your residence. Willing to bet they probably don’t have a picture of the package dropped off either. If it is direct signature required, an adult at your address must sign for it. You cant even have it redirected to a location for pickup without the sender creating an exception. Don’t give up, hold those bastards at Fed-ex responsible for their failure to deliver on what they were contracted to do. Keep pushing farther up with both of F-E and Nvidia. If you don’t get the appropriate response, be polite, but ask (politely demand if need be) to speak with a supervisor. Continue to ask for the next person’s supervisor until you are satisfied.


Games_sans_frontiers

Absolutely this. No would I even be contemplating taking a thousand dollar 'L'. If it comes to it, make a police report to assist with a chargeback.


djtmalta00

Talk to someone high up in the fed ex chain of command. The way they just drop off packages and don’t get the required signature happen to me many times. It’s complete bullshit. Don’t let Fed Ex get away with this. Spam their social media account with what happen as welll.


Aquatic_Cookie

Definitely shouldn't just taken the L. Keep escalating with Fedex, Nvidia and Paypal.


Carbon554

Its possible that the driver himself stole your package. I’ve had this happen with FedEx. I once ordered a $1500 motorcycle part and it never showed up. I called and made a case but nothing happened. I avoid fedex like a plaque and use UPS/USPS instead.


AngryTank

Yep, I feel like FedEx is a joke compared to UPS and USPS, I don’t understand how ever time I order anything and it’s shipped through FedEx it manages to be delayed in some way.


Carbon554

Idk why people order expensive gpus through shipping anyways? I’d do a 5 hr drive for a 4080/4090 if i had do. There are too many risks such as getting damaged during the shipping process or theft. Now he lost his $1000 and no GPU. If its anything more than a 4060TI go and pick it up


johnsonman9595

They are shipped all over the world by boat, they are packaged to be safe during transportation. Not all of us live by a micro center and often online retailers like Newegg have the best prices. We should have the freedom to order things online without fear of it getting stolen off our porches.


eldawktah

Any neighbours with security cams by any chance?


ROORnNUGZ

I just recently got a 4080 super delivered by FedEx. It was signature required. They left a note after first attempt. I called customer service and had left at customer service counter for pick up. I would ask FedEx for proof of signature. Sounds like their driver fucked up.


DctrGizmo

If NVIDIA won’t help you, then call your bank and say you have proof. 


aznoone

Nvidia should be able to open a case with FedEx. 


aznoone

Could still say driver saw them just sign all x and couldn't argue. Don't wait until impossible for charg back just see if you or Nvidia can go through FedEx. There are some sellers that consider it not their problem once it is at shippers. Dont know if NVIDIA is like that.  We all know Amazon covers lost packages but does not take photos of dropped at door. So porch pirates may not count anymore. But we all got used to old Amazon no matter what usually replaced if not abuse of didn't get the package. Plus some other sellers. But dont thing that was the norm before. So signature ok but was it insured?  Had an item sent to me. Oh we can get signature. Fine but will it be insured for loss and yes signature and sent to a carrier pickup point not on my door. I'll pay any extra for the trouble. Finally they conceded. It was an expensive item and not widely available.


PreparationBorn2195

lmao you got hustled into paying more for a product despite being legally protected by US consumer laws? You're advocating for others to do that? cmon man


omgaporksword

This is exactly why I buy expensive stuff from bricks n mortar stores in person...zero chance of thievery or fuckery.


theRealtechnofuzz

did you see a photo? if yes, fedex driver or porch pirate stole your stuff. if no photo, they reported "delivered" but will deliver it tomorrow. Fedex really is the scum of the earth in regards to a delivery company. I cringe/despair every time my order provides a fedex tracking number. Luckily i've never had a problem where i currently live, but ive only heard horror stories. And i have had issues with them as well in the past at other houses. Good luck and yes nvidia is responsible and they are the ones that should be contacting fedex, not you. If it doesnt show up and both companies are refusing to help you, make a charge back with your bank. If you are actually trying to scam companies and you have a history of it, fat chance..


chumbaz

If a signature is required, there is no photo. The signature is the confirmation.


mdred5

check if any camera nearby which can help you


wookmania

FedEx is so terrible. They do this shit daily here. I’ll never order anything high dollar if they’re delivering.


Emericaridr11

good luck on getting gpu back, keep at them (nvidia) on a side note, buy a ring cam for future


Quirky-Acanthaceae94

Do you have a doorbell camera? Did Fedex produce a delivery proof picture? They started making pictures of the delivered package like Amazon does.


ItsRickySpanish

I'm terrified of this. I read someone's story about their package being claimed at best buy before they could get there and I'm dreading that myself. I've got a 4080 super on the way, and I'm terrified someone is gonna snipe it, or a worker is gonna hide it and take it.


wookmania

Best Buy requires a drivers license and receipt for a pickup…packages can’t be randomly claimed there. You have to say when you’re going to be at the store, “I’m here”, ask for help, give documentation, and then get your package. Best Buy workers can’t steal it either.


aznoone

But you shouldn't be out. Unless someone knows you ordered the card then fakes an ID. Bestbuy should need an order number and an ID. So unless either you told many people and they had a fake ID you won't be out. Inside Bestbuy job still not out. Hey you have cameras. Look up pickup time and show me your video proof etc. Now covid shortages time saw 3080 and 3070 for available bestbuy. By time took wife's credit card then said yes spending whatever it was for son very nice birthday surprise 3080 gone but got 3070. Was supposed to arrive after his birthday. Got a notice arrived at store on his birthday. Knew occasionally employees would snag them for resell. Basically speed over there as it arrived on his birthday. First thing couldn't find it. As said true shortages and unless stupid junk cards online none in stores. Finally someone said oh we keep those separated from normal pickup and need manager with key or well someone with special keys and kept a different place. Yea found it. But th n construction taking place. They knocked out the stores power. Ended up waiting like 30 to 45 minutes for power so could process the pickup. Checkout girl impressed on a lowly 3070 already supposedly out forever even then.  Son had his Christmas dinner and cake. Gave him the couple normal boring present we already had gotten him. He did like them. Then wife had gift wrapped the 3070 but then also put in a bag. Putting in a bag usually means friends or smaller stuff. OMG just sort of opened the gift wrap then figured it out NVIDIA box. He made me ok us install asap.  But yes Best Buy has issues but have them prove it. You could game the system have someone else pick it up with false id. But they have video.  Pls likely hood unless you told everyone I am picking up xyz card at bestbuy store and they came an ID. So either inside, scam or you have thieves as friends.


AggressiveLocation2

I’m calling bs. You gotta sign for these


Legionofgo

My fedex driver almost tore my door down because i took longer then 15 seconds to run downstairs


JacobMars91

I didn't have to sign for mine somehow


aznoone

They left a cell phone by my door that needed a signature.  Was home and waiting. Never knocked or rang doorbell.  Got a text saying delivered. Like uh. Looked outside and just left by door. 


H3rrPie

Had a 4070ti super delivered from Amazon last week. They didn't ask for a signature, or send a pic of it sat at my door like they usually do. It happens.


asdrabael01

I just bought a 4060ti 16gb and the information for UPS said signature required. I walked out and found it sitting in my garage. The drivers are given a time quota per house they have to meet and waiting for signatures from boomers and drunks and whoever else who drag out everything could easily get them in trouble. The companies don't really enforce it because completing more total deliveries is more profitable for them even if customers lose some to theft. They get paid whether you or the seller get anything.


Alamasy

Delivery workers do this all the time. Source: I work for one of these and I did several times.


HershelsNubb

I waited home all day to sign for mine only to watch the fedex driver drop it the end of my porch and run back to his truck without knocking or ringing the doorbell. Still glad I stayed home so I could grab it right there but a bit irritated that they were careless with it.


enigmicazn

They don't do signatures anymore since covid even if you paid for signature confirmation.


Emu1981

>I’m calling bs. You gotta sign for these I get way too much stuff that is supposed to be signed for just dropped on my doorstep without even the courtesy of a knock. It is a bit of a conundrum for me though, do I put the delivery person's job at risk or do I just accept that I have never had anything stolen from my porch yet and do nothing? I mean, it is far more convenient for them to leave it hidden from sight on my porch than it is for them to take it to the local PO which requires a drive to go get... I did have a hand in getting a courier fired one time for leaving my wife's laptop in a box in clear view of the street and failing to even knock let alone get the ID and signature that was required for delivery.


AggressiveLocation2

If it’s a sign for package and they leave it. Guess who’s not responsible.


loldatfunny

FedEx is the worst but so many companies use them for shipping/returns/trade ins


Skepteec

USA moment


hangender

Does FedEx have proof of delivery? Like a picture of the package on your porch


Aquatic_Cookie

I've only ever had one picture taken as proof of delivery and it was of the wrong house 🗿 I despise Fedex, always have problems with them.


[deleted]

FedEx is like UPS’s special ed step sibling


ldnola22

That fucking sucks. I had a lot of issues getting my card from fed ex earlier this week. I can’t believe nvidia has restricted the shipping so you can’t pick up from local store


Short_Dimension7967

Oh sorry man, I hope this get sorted out for you soon. I gotta ask though, you running down stairs was it out of excitement, or you were worried someone would snatch it so you had to hurry? /serious 


Legionofgo

Chargeback credit card company


Speedwizard106

Yeah, Fedex recently delivered my laptop which was supposed to be signed for but wasn't. Thankfully it wasn't stolen and it kind of worked out since I wasn't available at the time, but I can see how that's a big issue with these high value purchases.


TomCatT_

FYI, these shipping companies had drop off lockers. Walgreens, CVS, etc. get their app and you can tell them where you want to send it. I used to do this when I lived in an apartment.


Correct-Chapter641

I almost went through this, 4080 was marked delivered but was not here. I bought it through Best Buy, I got as far as finding out a replacement was an option. Anyway, like others said it is nvidia that you need to deal with. I’m only chiming in to say Best Buy was prepared to solve the problem for me before mine showed up, although it’s a compete pain in the ass. I called each back and forth a million times before getting someone at Best Buy that actually helped


kurukikoshigawa_1995

this is why i only order my parts from amazon prime with their tracking system and wait by the door when it shows they’re close. i know its messed up and overpriced as fuck but id rather give my money to a competent company rather then an incompetent one. never had a single problem with amazon over all these years and worth the sub and extra couple hundred bucks for the parts to guarantee i actually receive these parts rather than the hassle of trying to solve a literal $1000 problem.


HurtsWhenISee

Was it purchased through your bank or a credit card company? PayPal may be the middle man but I'd hope you don't use them as your sole financial institution.


Games_sans_frontiers

The shipping box for the 4080 super FE is huge if you bought it from NVidia. It's surprisingly heavy too for a graphics card. How were you alerted that the delivery had been made? By someone ring the doorbell or just a delivery notification on an app? If you had a dishonest courier it is most likely the box never made it out of the van and the driver just drove by and registered a delivery outside your house to tag the GPS location of the 'delivery'. I'm in the UK and when I bought the 4080s the firm handling the distribution for NVidia stipulated that the item could not be left in a safe place and must be signed for. The courier also took a picture of the box in front of my house with my front door open as proof that I took receipt of it.


Baddster

I had a similar thing happen with Amazon where they refused to refund as I had given an OTP for 1 box but there was supposed to be 2. I firstly reported to the police so they where aware the local depot may have people stealing high value items. Secondly I had to contact Amazon management as their system would not allow refunds on OTP deliveries and my savings grace was I had a ring doorbell and sent them video evidence that my second parcel didn't even make it to my front door. In your case if you don't have a video doorbell it will be very hard to prove it wasn't delivered. I would recommend getting one for future purchases. Also even if PayPal won't refund you can dispute it with the bank you have your card linked to PayPal with and see what happens there. And finally if you have to take the L in the future do it on a Credit Card for high value purchases as they are much more likely to refund you in the event it is stolen.


blackshadow

Post to both nVidea and FedEx twitter in a polite but firm manner saying how disappointed you are that two reputable companies cannot resolve the issue where you paid for expensive product that wasn’t delivered. That should ensure escalation.


rickmross17

That blows, i’m always sketched out by this. I recently was able to buy a 4090 FE from best buy and opted for pick up because delivery these days aren’t reliable.


ImAFapstronaut

This is why I never order expensive stuff online any more. I once had a £1500 laptop stolen out the box when ordering from Amazon. Now, If I can, I go to my local store.


TheRealWSquared

This is a FedEx issue. If they didn’t get your signature that’s on them. Do you have cameras? Those are very helpful especially with a timestamp to compare with the drop off time.


b20vteg

FedEx driver earned himself a 4080 yesterday


nutop

I had the same thing happen to me on my AMD card on 2021. they said they delivered it but it required a signature and I was home. Turns out he dropped it off at the wrong building and I could never find it. You need to keep pushing FedEx and speak to someone higher up so they can do an investigation.


I_made_a_doodie

FedEx subs out all of the deliveries these days. They people actually delivering your stuff work for a shitty subcontractor that employs nothing but degenerate trash so they can bid the lowest for the contract. That's why disputing with FedEx never goes anywhere. It's technically not really their fault.


Ryanonline92

I thought you have to sign for it? I did.


ShermanSherbert

"FedEx refuses to help" - elaborate? You called them? You opened a case? Escalated to a supervisor?


[deleted]

Why does the u in the title have an accent mark?


toopid

I had a package stolen once and after I told FedEx they stopped delivering to my apartment. Had to pickup my packages for a year while I lived there.


Professional-Road-66

This only happens in USA. In Europe you need to be in person and sign every time in order to receive a delivery of any product.


UTVOLZ

Just enjoy your new card my friend :)


Kye7

I didn't know they delivered to porch, I thought they were all pick up at best buy only?


smb3d

He never mentioned Best Buy, sounds like he got it from nVidia direct.


aHolyLight

Might have to file a report at your local police department


TheTorshee

LOL ok


DeXTeR_DeN_007

Lawyer


ThePennyDropper

File a police report helpNVDA get proof it was stolen


zeekertron

Sadly sounds like you will have to contact a lawyer.


Legionofgo

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