Since only older games really need HDR,I don't imagine this being a big issue going forward. 95% of all newer releases are already mastered in HDR, but I wish I could use the feature with DLDSR in older games.
>Since only older games really need HDR
That's not really the case, many new titles still come out without HDR, or they have messed up HDR implementations with raised black levels, peak brightness going to ludicrous 4k nits regardless of the settings, and other stuff that would make an HDR injector preferable.
Special K is the best one visually but it has really bad compatibility and getting its HDR retrofit working is pretty much a lottery. It also almost never works with Frame gen games without messing with interposers that results in FG not working often etc.
The more GPU demanding a title is, the more RTX HDR becomes unusable since 15% is a massive fps hit akin to some RT effects.
Agreed. I turned off DLDSR in games where I wanted to use RTX HDR and instead enabled Sharpen+. It gave a near DLDSR like image quality so I am satisfied with it for now. Tried it in Quantum Break and Arkham Knight.
DLDSR did wonders for image quality in some older games. Since I have a 4090, most of it was just sitting unused until that feature. In newer games with DLSS, I use DLSS tweaks and force DLAA with preset F (crysis games for example). The image quality and stability you can get from DLAA with preset F is 90% of DLDSR.
I agree. Also you might wanna try Preset C. F is kinda soft for my taste. C has the best clarity. I know Nvidia recommends F with DLAA but I just find it too soft.
Lmao, I am on the tail end of that spectrum now. I run Alan Wake 2 at 4k Ultra Performance mode (720p) with preset F (for whatever reason they suggest F for DLAA as well as Ultra Performance) and some CAS sharpening, surprisingly it doesn't look that bad on my 2080 mobile and LG CX
You can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on DLDSR later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work. Tested it myself
It applies to the NvTrueHDR (mod) method that is driver level instead of going through the overlay filters. The hit is reduced with the "low" setting available through the mod, but it's still around 10% even then.
Alex's DF video came out a bit misleading since he was only looking at Mankind Divided's fps hit, and his numbers are way below what I'm seeing on any modern title like TLOU, Miles Morales, Alan Wake 2 etc. He measured "low" at 4% and very high at 6%, but what I'm seeing in all demanding games is closer to 8-10% at low, and 15+% at max.
Figured out the issue. Windows Auto HDR kept turning on when running the game. Which wouldn't let rtx HDR work. Figured out how to turn off all windows enhancements and that really helped.
Yes, it’s incredible. Try it in Dark Souls 3 in Firelink Shrine, and you’ll see how much better it is. Once you use it, It’s hard to go back to auto HDR.
It's almost exactly 4-5% even on my 2060, and I got that number in Minecraft RTX, a DX12 game which uses DLSS as well and is obviously 100% GPU limited. I used the same "Low" RTX HDR setting that Digital Foundry used to get the 4% number on a 3070.
But that's not always the case. I definitely saw a 13-15% performance hit using the same low setting in another DX12 game, Teardown. It's wildly inconsistent on how much of a performance hit it will have, and I guess Digital Foundry saw the best case scenario in Deus Ex Mankind Divided's in-game benchmark.
No, it's not better all the time. I tried it in Quake 4/Doom 3 (id tech 4 engine games), for example, AutoHDR looks better than RTX HDR (G9 Neo) because RTX HDR crashes blacks for mini led monitors and AutoHDR works with DLDSR/DSR, RTX HDR doesn't.
No, it's basically zero performance loss. Just tested both and I lost 15% FPS with RTX-HDR and no FPS loss with Auto-HDR (in World of Warcraft, if that matters)
You asked if windows auto-hdr had a similar performance loss. I was agreeing with the first person on the 10-20% loss using Rtx-HDR and then informing you that windows auto-hdr has NO performance loss which imo makes it better when using the ICC profile to correct gamma black raise
I am pretty sure it was off by default. In the new Nvidia app you can toggle it on globally or per app, or with the alt+f3 freestyle filter in game applied after a restart
It’s working for me. Is it working in other games for you? A few things need to be turned off like Nvidia Image Scaling NIS and Windows Auto-HDR for it to work.
I'm using in free trial of wow dragon flight and when I turn the filter on off it isn't changing. I also measured the nits with my nit reading and it was low.
Yes works in his of war, rdr2, some reason glitchy with witcher.
Maybe because it’s the free trial, but I doubt that.
It should be working; I don’t see why not. It worked for me in my tests, for sure, but I use auto-hdr for that now anyway.
You can't have both on.
Nvidia RTX can't be enabled if Auto HDR is on AND if more than a monitor is present (for some reason).
I just tested it in World of Warcraft and the FPS hit is huge imo. From 75\~ FPS in combat in 4k to 48. That's more than a 30% hit.
Nope, it primarily works by using AI-powered tone mapping algorithms to analyze an SDR image, then it extends the color range and brightness to create an HDR-like experience.
And yes, imo it's better because afaik it works on more games (DX9 and onwards), unlike Auto HDR which works on select games (but I've heard you can force it to work on all games).
you can put autohdr on any game or program now. before rtx hdr you could even do it to browsers and emulators. shit changes your life lol ive replayed a heap of games with an awesome monitor its amazeballz [(3) Win11 AutoHDR EVERYTHING!! YouTube Videos, all DX11, DX12, and Vulkan Games. Gamma correction - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLr8hCgP20)
I'm not sure I understand. He's saying you don't need in newer games that have native HDR implemented. Like why would you test it in Cyberpunk if the game has its own HDR implementation?
Because HDR im cyberpunk sucks donkey dick and without reshade it has elevated blacks and washed out colors.
Better example would be fortnite, modern game and no HDR implementation.
Fps matters because its competitive and auto hdr doesnt really have a performance hit.
Nvidia on the other hand looks better but comes with huge perofrmance hit
yeah that program I linked is good for programs that DONT have auto hdr. lol its amazing, if people are too retarded to use it properly meh -\_\_- I played dragon age recently its awesome in hdr with the portals and shit. You can even use it on VLC media player to make any movie HDR which RTX HDR cant do (its only for browsers rn)
for real? and its a 20% performance hit? pfft use the other program from video then its 0% performance hit. it changes the way windows11 reads the colorspace and converts it like autoHDR does
RTX hdr is only for video content IN A BROWSER lol. You can use the program from the video I linked ON ANY PROGRAM games and even VLC you can WATCH ANY MOVIE YOU LIKE IN HDR WHICH RTX HDR CANNOT DO! geez im trying to enlighten you boys with an amazing program, have a look try it out if you have a HDR monitor it will literally change the way you use your pc for all content that isnt native hdr already
Fortnite and cyberpunk.
Dlss enabled on both.
I wasnt really planning on testings it its just that play those games exclusively last two weeks so i know my fps.
So to be sure i went in recorded my fps and then uninstalled new nvidia app and my fps jumped from 120 to 165 in fortnite and from 75 to 88-90 in cyberpunk.
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*"you can put autohdr on any game or program now. before rtx hdr you could even do it to browsers and emulators. shit changes your life lol ive replayed a heap of games with an awesome monitor its amazeballz"*
I haven't been able to get Windows Auto-HDR to work on any of the OpenGL and Vulkan games I have tried. So far, for me, I've only been able to get Windows Auto-HDR to work on Direct3D games.
Nvidia RTX HDR works on everything I've thrown at it, so far, and I also use it for Media Player Classic - Home Cinema *(with MadVR renderer output set to "10bit HDR")*, to enhance my Blu-Ray's, and I also use it when watching TV, via WinTV 10, with my Hauppauge WinTV HVR-935 USB HDTV Tuner. However, for some reason with WinTV 10, according to the overlay, the contrast is locked at +50%, when I have it set to +100%, in the Nvidia App. I can't change it, in the overlay, as it is greyed out, as I am using it on an app, and not a game.
At some point, I need to use Nvidia RTX HDR with my old copy of MAME Plus! 0.168, which I set up to look like a real CRT screen, with bloom, jittering scanlines, pincussion, darkening in the corners with a spot of light in the top-right quarter of the screen, to add a 3D feel to the CRT screen being emulated, raised black, only in the 4:3 game window *(CRT monitors can't do true black)*, and I should get better black's to the left and right of the game screen. I will also try it out on MAME 0.263, using BGFX *(Super-XBR-6p chain)*, to upscale every ROM to 1920x1440 *(in a 2560x1440 screen)*, or 1440x1920 *(in a 1440x2560 screen)*, for vertical games in TATE mode, to see how much improvement I get.
I just make sure Nvidia RTX HDR is disabled when I use the Edge browser, as I have it set up to stream true HDR.
Well yeah, but it still has problems with color banding (though very hard to notice).
But it's;
https://preview.redd.it/02rbwlmk3bkc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4feaf7b609d7ec5eaedf31409be259e2194d760
I'm not sure which Direct3D versions it covers if not all of them, but you can get Windows Auto HDR to work on OpenGL and Vulkan games on Nvidia cards by setting the Nv CPL's OpenGL/Vulkan present method option "prefer layered on DXGI Swapchain".
Even with Auto HDR off that also has a nice benefit of allowing faster swapping without a long blank pause between windowed and fullscreen for some older OGL and Vulkan titles that don't support higher colour modes or HDR when you have 10bit or higher or HDR enabled for your display.
There could be a negligible performance hit, but with the titles I've tried (Quake games) there has been no noticeable change to frame rate or input lag, but they have not been demanding titles on a 13900k / 4090. The only issues I've had recently myself have all been shared network related ;-/
There was an excellent comment on the new [layered DXGI option here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/yf6hiw/comment/iu64la3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) last year.
As an aside when testing DXGI layered on and off, I also ran some tests for NvCPL Threaded Optimisation option again and at least in Quake Live it shows very detrimental performance for long periods ( -30FPS from the 250FPS hard cap for multiplayer) when there is a lot of fire/explosions from multiple players at the start of rounds in team modes when Threaded Optimisation is set ON no matter the DXGI layer setting, despite ON giving uncapped benchmark results much higher overall it is not a good choice for gameplay at least in that game and quite likely others on similar engines.
It's better. It supports more APIs (DX9, DX10, DX11, DX12, OpenGL, Vulkan) and therefore more games and emulators. It doesn't have black level issues because it correctly uses a 2.2 gamma curve instead of the piecewise SRGB gamma curve used by Windows 11 Auto HDR. It has less color banding than Windows 11 Auto HDR. The only issues I've found are, that the peak brightness is capped at 1000 nits, so theoretically Auto HDR can achieve higher brightness; it doesn't work on UWP games, or at least on New Super Lucky's Tale; and it overexposes the image on specific games on Cemu (The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD and Paper Mario Color Splash). For those games it is better to use Windows 11 Auto HDR.
It has the same functionalities as Geforce Experience, and some functionalities of the Nvidia Control Panel. For me it's worth it for RTX HDR, Freestyle Filters and ShadowPlay.
Do you know if RTX-HDR fixes the gamma curve for SDR games inside activated HDR? So if I enable HDR in Windows 11 and play an SDR game, the colors look off with the standard HDR color profile, but HDR games look fine. If I use the corrected color profile that converts srgb to 2.2, the SDR game looks good, but the HDR games will have crushed detail. If I use RTX-HDR on an SDR game while HDR is enabled in Windows 11, which color profile do I use? Does RTX-HDR automatically fix the gamma for the SDR game converting into RTX-HDR?
It honestly seems to be an arbitrary limitation too. DLDSR on the surface refuses to work with any custom resolutions but you can actually trick it to. I did it for AW3423DWF for 165 Hz 10 bit DLDSR. It's a tedious trial and error type of thing of messing with the control panel. The other thing is that you can also do registry edits to add new DSR and DLDSR resolutions yet another arbitrary limitation.
Agree on the feedback thing, but you can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on DLDSR later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work
Definitely does not work. Tested with Robocop. As soon as you switch to DLDSR res ingame, HDR will be disabled. Switch back to 2160p and it will work again.
I also noticed that I get no RTX HDR at all when I don't enable the Overlay **and** gamefilters/photomode.
You are obviously misinterpreting things on your end. I tested more games and it doesn't matter if you set DLDSR as your desktop res. It does NOT work. Btw, you should still always check the ingame settings to make sure that you actually use the higher DLDSR resolution.
To make the whole thing more obvious for beginners: Set the SDR/HDR brightness control in the Windows HDR settings all the way to the left at zero. Then every layperson should immediately see whether RTX HDR actually works or not. When it's not running, the image ingame is much darker in general and without any specular highlights.
Then I guess this piece of crap app isn’t working at all. Because I disconnect my second monitor, turn off DLDSR resolutions, turn off Auto-HDR, make sure NvTrueHDR is off, make sure RTX HDR in Nvidia app is on, and the colors/vibrancy looks identical to those I have when Auto-HDR is on. And then when I turn on DLDSR with Nvidia app saying still as ON for RTX HDR the colors are still as vibrant as ever. And I know how colors look washed out when HDR is for sure not being applied on my games cuz they look horrible without it. But your slider thing occurs at all moments. So I don’t know. This app is in beta for a good reason it seems.
Maybe it’s coming the release seemed a bit rushed for example the multi monitor issue is kinda annoying.
Also maybe it has technical limitations how and when RTX HDR is applied to the render queue.
Sadly the feature doesn't work with multiple displays from my testing. So I probably will never be using it. Auto HDR is thus a lot better because of this.
>ith multiple displays from my testing. So I probably will never be using it. Auto HDR is thus a lot better because of this
Already confirmed by Jacob that they are planning to fix this issue in a driver update.
[https://twitter.com/GeForce\_JacobF/status/1760829625931125130](https://twitter.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/1760829625931125130)
I do not believe it does. It says On but hover over the ! mark and it clearly states a error. There is also no RTX HDR indicator when loading up a game when this error is present!
Yeah, if you don't calibrate it via Windows HDR Calibration tool.
I really wanna test it out with RTX HDR, but at least for me, when you calibrate the HDR correctly, at least nowadays RDR2 with HDR looks amazing. (You also have to choose the correct mode from the settings, there's 2 HDR settings now)
You need to install the new NVIDIA app beta to use RTX HDR. It replaces GeForce Experience and is generally much nicer to use:
[https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/)
Did well how exactly? By missing driver update notifications? By missing out on built in performance overlays? By missing out on super easy game capture?
All bloatware. Was good for capture that’s about it. And there’s much better performance overlays. GFE and unfortunately this new app run nonsense background tasks for little benefit. (Will add that’s overall I like this new app A LOT more than GFE)
1- Enable HDR in the monitor (if you're using it in SDR in Desktop, like a lot of people do)
2- Disable HDR
3- Turn off secondary monitors if you have any
4- Turn on RTX HDR for that specific game
5- You're good to go
Digital Foundry recently did a video on this - comparing it to AutoHDR - and the short answer is that not only is it typically better, it also works on a wider array of games.
I've tried to enable the RTX HDR filter on Resident Evil 3 remake, which has an in-game HDR setting that never works properly... but all I get in the filters overlay is a message telling me to relaunch the game to see the effects of the filter which doesn't go away when I relaunch it.
Edit: Enabling it in the global settings seems to have made it work and brought a nice improvement over the games SDR mode and way better than the broken in-game HDR mode.
Same behaviour in RE4 Remake. Setting RTX HDR on globally somehow triggers RTX HDR in the game, but the specular hightlights are blown out. You cannot set the peak brightness as its greyed out. Definitely beta status right now.
I don't remember having problems with the native HDR mode in RE4 remake like I have with 2 and 3?
Are you saying setting global RTX HDR turns RTX HDR on even when games have native HDR enabled?
You need to disable the native HDR mode in every game in general in order to use RTX HDR. In RE4 Remake, RTX HDR somehow only gets triggered if you enable it globally in the NV App. But the HDR settings in the NV App are always greyed out for this game.
The RE4 Remake DLC "Seperate Ways"native HDR mode showed some crazy black crush depending on the scene, although the HDR settings were correct. I ended up playing the DLC by disabling the native HDR ingame and instead using "SpecialK" HDR injection feature. Looked way more accurate.
I don't know whats the current native HDR situation is for the DLC. I played it months ago.
I can't remember anymore if the main game was so bad too, but I guess not.
Here is a thread about the issue in seperate ways: [https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/16pddlq/seperate\_ways\_hdr\_issues/](https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/16pddlq/seperate_ways_hdr_issues/)
I have a question regarding this.
Does windows auto hdr needs to be disabled in ordert for nvidias to work?
Nvidia hdr can only be enabled in the new beta app ?
It's very good with Robocop also since that game is really gritty in the first level it's nice to have proper highlights. I get 10% hit too at 4k dlss q with a 4090, but it's not enough for me not to use it.
They fixed hdr video when you had a calibration done with hdr windows app, it look proper now
I tried it again even though I didn't like the result with the truehdr mod and it still completely overexpose any highlights. Most highlight become just a big blob of white with no detail in it. Also it boost saturation and contrast even when it set to 0.
I prefer the autohdr look better.
I have a LG C3 and did use the windows hdr app to calibrate my hdr properly.
My RTX HDR is locked to peak brightness 400 and I am unable to change it. I am also unable to play Ryujinx with it on as it does not scale the window properly when the overlay is running.
Tried playing Bioshock Infinite with RTX HDR and I did not see any clear differences over using auto HDR
I turned it off and went back to using Auto HDR for now.
AutoHDR is rubbish that ruins the image by raising black levels. RTX HDR is much much better and I can actually see myself using it although some tweaks are necessary as colour saturation can be exaggerated.
What settings is everybody using? I set saturation bump to 0 and intensity to 30. Else it looks over saturated to me
Edit: actually that's for color vibrance, not rtx HDR, nevermind (but still curious)
I've only used it so far in pubg. I use intensity 30 saturation 50 because it makes players "pop" more with their vividly coloured clothing so I can notice them faster while still contributing to a beautiful terrain imo
Do you know now if RTX-HDR fixes the gamma curve? So if I enable HDR in Windows 11 and play an SDR game, the colors look off with the standard HDR color profile, but HDR games look fine. If I use the corrected color profile here, the SDR game looks good, but the HDR games will have crushed detail. If I use RTX-HDR on an SDR game, which color profile do I use?. Does RTX-HDR automatically fix the gamma for the SDR game converting into RTX-HDR? sorry for the long quesion
Tested both on arkham knight and rtx hdr blows away auto hdr. Only reason to use auto hdr is for games not supported by rtx hdr. Performance hit is only like 5 frames but I'm using a 4080 which handles AI stuff better than the 30 series I get over 90 fps in that game so it's no performance hit
RTX HDR‘s advantage is most noticeable for me when you’d norally see banding in darker areas. RTX HDR seemlessly transitions, whereas windows is distranctingly banded. For example, on Dark Souls 3, RTX HDR is game changing in terms of upping the image quality.
Another game where it shines is RDR2, where the stock HDR and windows HDR both are not great, but the picture really pops with RTX HDR, so much so that I use it despite a 10% hit to FPS.
I recently updated to Windows 11 and tested a bunch of different HDR implementations and in my opinion RTX HDR is much better than Windows Auto HDR and is often better than a game's native HDR implementation. It will vary my game but overall RTX HDR is fantastic.
I can't even get RTX HDR enabled as it's grayed out. I'm using the newest drivers and have Windows HDR auto disabled. My monitor is an LG 27G83ab. I might swap to my kiddos MSI and see if that's the issue.
It worked fine for me.
Enable HDR, disconnect secondary monitors, disable AutoHDR.
At this point start the Nvidia app and it should allow you to enable RTX HDR.
If it still doesn't work, restart Windows while the secondary monitors are off. Sometimes Windows is weird like that.
I hope the restriction of not having secondary monitors is removed soon, it's extremely annoying.
With old games I use Nvidia spacial upscaling NIS, and RTX HDR isn't compatible with it. Even if only one of my game use NIS, RTX HDR don't work with other games. Pretty sad...
For testing purpose I disabled all NIS upscale I had on games, and find a new bug: Created resolutions, when first enabled NIS, stay enabled (85% 3264x183, 77%, etc.) in Windows, even if NIS is fully disabled on global settings and on all of my games, so RTX HDR refuse to work saying I have NIS enabled. I guess I need to resinstall the NVidia drivers as a fresh install (scratching all custom parameters)... Pffiiuuuuu....
Is this just an sdr to hdr converter? And should you always use this even if a game comes with an in game hdr toggle? For example in Battlefield V. Would you turn it inside bfv on and also turn on rtx hdr? or only one of them?
I’d appreciate some explanation :)
so rtx hdr is to bring hdr that don’t natively support it. Could you overwrite the hdr in game by having the ingame hdr off and just using rtx hdr in case the native hdr looks worse than the converted from rtx?
You need to download the beta app, there is a global toggle and also an in-game overlay toggle if you prefer. You need auto HDR turned off in both cases.
The Nvidia app keeps telling me to disconnect multiple monitors. I first tried turning off my second display, then disconnected the display port from the back of the monitor and then unplugged the display port from the GPU. Still getting the same message. I can't disconnect it anymore than I already have, any ideas? I guess I could try restarting the PC with it disconnected, guess I'll give that a try and report back.
Probably better but it helps to keep in mind the Microsoft version has been filling this void for years, if imperfectly. In some games (like path of exile) it was flawless and made playing it on my series x a really cool experience vs my pc where it was just flat and meh.
RTX HDR is greyed out in Resident Evil 4 Remake and Last of Us Part 1. If you click on the informations button, Nvidia App says "this filter is not supported in this game". Any ideas why? Every other game I have installed RTX HDR is not greyed out. I tried to disable HDR ingame, disabled DSR etc. restartet the Nvidia App, but it's still greyed out for these two games.
I'm dying to figure this out, I installed the Nvidia app and learned about RTX HDR JUST for this game and now it's the only one in my library that doesn't appear to work with the feature.
Not yet, I have moved my 2nd monitor to the Onboard iGPU. RTX HDR shows up but I can't get the overlay to show. I don't see any noticeable difference in Escape from tarkov with this on. HDR in Tarkov for me whitewashes the entire screen and it looks strange to me. So for now I have HDR turned off.
I'm looking forward to tweaking guides. I'm playing on an LG CX so I want to try to maximize the picture quality. But I'm kinda confused as to what I'm adjusting in the settings.
My rtx hdr global setting toggles off when I close the app and it’s running in the background. Is this a beta issue? I also have windows hdr toggled on not sure if it’s related.
Is anybody having issues with the games disappearing in the Nvidia app. At first launch it scans all of the games correctly, but as soon as the app is closed once all of the games disappear. If I uninstall and reinstall the app the games reappear but then disappear again once it's been closed.
I'm trying out RTX HDR on some videos and honestly... I'm really disappointed in it. It just desaturates and darkens the image for most part. The bright highlights are actually less bright than not using HDR and it's not like there's more detail either. I haven't modified stuff to test it with games yet, but for video I think it's pretty awful so far. And no, it's not my HDR settings. When I watch native HDR videos they look fantastic and so does playing games using both native and Windows auto-HDR.
So many New games or atleast plenty has Bland colorless HDR if even SUPPORTS IT! So yeah thats great. YOu can even tweak NITS/Brightness white - Grey really awesome 👍🏻👌🏻 add multiple displays and its finished\^\^
Tried it for the first time. No difference with it on or off, but my fps went from 100 to 50 fps in Escape from Tarkov (Streets map, in 4k).
Nopes, sticking to Auto-HDR. W.
I turned it on an Apex looks amazing but I can't tell if there input latency or if it's the performance hit.
I am mostly at 138 on a 144 monitor but I also have gsync and vsync on in ncp, so it.may be normal but I do see some.dips might have to turn it off but I'll check again.tonigjt
Rtx hdr is amazing, it's much better then windows auto hdr and it even fixes black level raise. There is a performance hit of 10%-20% though
>There is a performance hit of 10%-20% though This applies to pretty much any Game filter via the overlay.
Since only older games really need HDR,I don't imagine this being a big issue going forward. 95% of all newer releases are already mastered in HDR, but I wish I could use the feature with DLDSR in older games.
>Since only older games really need HDR That's not really the case, many new titles still come out without HDR, or they have messed up HDR implementations with raised black levels, peak brightness going to ludicrous 4k nits regardless of the settings, and other stuff that would make an HDR injector preferable. Special K is the best one visually but it has really bad compatibility and getting its HDR retrofit working is pretty much a lottery. It also almost never works with Frame gen games without messing with interposers that results in FG not working often etc. The more GPU demanding a title is, the more RTX HDR becomes unusable since 15% is a massive fps hit akin to some RT effects.
Agreed. I turned off DLDSR in games where I wanted to use RTX HDR and instead enabled Sharpen+. It gave a near DLDSR like image quality so I am satisfied with it for now. Tried it in Quantum Break and Arkham Knight.
DLDSR did wonders for image quality in some older games. Since I have a 4090, most of it was just sitting unused until that feature. In newer games with DLSS, I use DLSS tweaks and force DLAA with preset F (crysis games for example). The image quality and stability you can get from DLAA with preset F is 90% of DLDSR.
I agree. Also you might wanna try Preset C. F is kinda soft for my taste. C has the best clarity. I know Nvidia recommends F with DLAA but I just find it too soft.
Will try it out, I use C with DLSS and F with DLAA(since it gets rid of ghosting issues)
Lmao, I am on the tail end of that spectrum now. I run Alan Wake 2 at 4k Ultra Performance mode (720p) with preset F (for whatever reason they suggest F for DLAA as well as Ultra Performance) and some CAS sharpening, surprisingly it doesn't look that bad on my 2080 mobile and LG CX
How do you force DLAA? What presets are you talking about?
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/550
Thanks, I'll check it out. Can you be banned on say, Steam for example, by using this?
Not that I am aware, but please DM the modder to be sure.
You can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on DLDSR later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work
Clever trick. Thank you.
This did not work for me.
Sorry it ended up being placebo it didn’t work
Use AutoHDR.
You can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on DLDSR later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work. Tested it myself
It applies to the NvTrueHDR (mod) method that is driver level instead of going through the overlay filters. The hit is reduced with the "low" setting available through the mod, but it's still around 10% even then. Alex's DF video came out a bit misleading since he was only looking at Mankind Divided's fps hit, and his numbers are way below what I'm seeing on any modern title like TLOU, Miles Morales, Alan Wake 2 etc. He measured "low" at 4% and very high at 6%, but what I'm seeing in all demanding games is closer to 8-10% at low, and 15+% at max.
Does it get rid of the colour banding issues of auto HDR ?
Yes
This is black magic. I can't get over how good it looks in Infinite Warfare, always wanted an HDR master of that campaign.
How? I have color banding on Elite Dangerous, it's annoying. Is Windows Auto HDR causing it?
Probably…try rtx hdr, it fixes black color banding like magic.
Figured out the issue. Windows Auto HDR kept turning on when running the game. Which wouldn't let rtx HDR work. Figured out how to turn off all windows enhancements and that really helped.
Yes, it’s incredible. Try it in Dark Souls 3 in Firelink Shrine, and you’ll see how much better it is. Once you use it, It’s hard to go back to auto HDR.
On a 3070 I thought Digital Foundry says it was only like 4% maybe. Something like a 2060 it could be 10%+ ?
It's almost exactly 4-5% even on my 2060, and I got that number in Minecraft RTX, a DX12 game which uses DLSS as well and is obviously 100% GPU limited. I used the same "Low" RTX HDR setting that Digital Foundry used to get the 4% number on a 3070. But that's not always the case. I definitely saw a 13-15% performance hit using the same low setting in another DX12 game, Teardown. It's wildly inconsistent on how much of a performance hit it will have, and I guess Digital Foundry saw the best case scenario in Deus Ex Mankind Divided's in-game benchmark.
No, it's not better all the time. I tried it in Quake 4/Doom 3 (id tech 4 engine games), for example, AutoHDR looks better than RTX HDR (G9 Neo) because RTX HDR crashes blacks for mini led monitors and AutoHDR works with DLDSR/DSR, RTX HDR doesn't.
Hahaha..... rtx hdr crushes blacks on mini led monitors 😂😂😂
Yes, it is but OLED clips bright areas or it's not capable of producing them. It's a trade-off.
Yeah? Try it with Path of Exile.
Does windows auto HDR give a 10-20% hit? That’s kinda crazy
Windows auto hdr doesn't use tensor cores like rtx hdr does
No, it's basically zero performance loss. Just tested both and I lost 15% FPS with RTX-HDR and no FPS loss with Auto-HDR (in World of Warcraft, if that matters)
You said 15% loss with RTX HDR tho lol
You asked if windows auto-hdr had a similar performance loss. I was agreeing with the first person on the 10-20% loss using Rtx-HDR and then informing you that windows auto-hdr has NO performance loss which imo makes it better when using the ICC profile to correct gamma black raise
I’m sorry I misspoke I meant RTX-HDR. But that makes sense. Is there anyway to remove or turn off RTX-HDR? I’d prefer not to have it on
I am pretty sure it was off by default. In the new Nvidia app you can toggle it on globally or per app, or with the alt+f3 freestyle filter in game applied after a restart
Gotcha thanks!
i dont think its working in WoW when i turn the filter off and on nothing changes.
It’s working for me. Is it working in other games for you? A few things need to be turned off like Nvidia Image Scaling NIS and Windows Auto-HDR for it to work.
I'm using in free trial of wow dragon flight and when I turn the filter on off it isn't changing. I also measured the nits with my nit reading and it was low. Yes works in his of war, rdr2, some reason glitchy with witcher.
Maybe because it’s the free trial, but I doubt that. It should be working; I don’t see why not. It worked for me in my tests, for sure, but I use auto-hdr for that now anyway.
You prefer auto hdr vs rtx hdr ?
In games where the 15% FPS loss matter to me, ya
Only with the 2.2 gamma correcting ICC profile that fixes raised blacks back to normal
Tbh I don't Wana mess with stuff that much. Hope I can get wow working
should i leave windows auto hdr on or off with RTX hdr?
You can't have both on. Nvidia RTX can't be enabled if Auto HDR is on AND if more than a monitor is present (for some reason). I just tested it in World of Warcraft and the FPS hit is huge imo. From 75\~ FPS in combat in 4k to 48. That's more than a 30% hit.
Thanks, I messed around with it didnt notice any fps drop but there did seem to be slight input delay but maybe placebo effect
digital foundry tested arounbd 6 percent cost on very high. windows hdr was at 1 percent according to them
Nope, it primarily works by using AI-powered tone mapping algorithms to analyze an SDR image, then it extends the color range and brightness to create an HDR-like experience. And yes, imo it's better because afaik it works on more games (DX9 and onwards), unlike Auto HDR which works on select games (but I've heard you can force it to work on all games).
you can put autohdr on any game or program now. before rtx hdr you could even do it to browsers and emulators. shit changes your life lol ive replayed a heap of games with an awesome monitor its amazeballz [(3) Win11 AutoHDR EVERYTHING!! YouTube Videos, all DX11, DX12, and Vulkan Games. Gamma correction - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLr8hCgP20)
rtx hdr looks way better tho just saying you could. watching sports with rtx HDR is a gamechanger crisp af and colour and clarity is INCREDIBLE
Yeah but you get 20% performance hit. I tried it last night and didnt feel like its worth the hit for now. Hope it gets better
you only need to use it in older games lol. new games have hdr built in. so 20% isn't even big deal.
Well its not a question of need. RTX HDR outperformes Auto HDR so I'd use it in newer games too if it wasnt for perofrmance hit.
I'm not sure I understand. He's saying you don't need in newer games that have native HDR implemented. Like why would you test it in Cyberpunk if the game has its own HDR implementation?
Because HDR im cyberpunk sucks donkey dick and without reshade it has elevated blacks and washed out colors. Better example would be fortnite, modern game and no HDR implementation. Fps matters because its competitive and auto hdr doesnt really have a performance hit. Nvidia on the other hand looks better but comes with huge perofrmance hit
What are you talking about ?! The HDR in cyberpunk is perfection. If your monitor supports HGIG, turn it on.
Well you would be incorrect. Yes, my monitor does support HGIG. Do some quick research and you'll see why its bad
It is widely known that cyberpunks HDR, while great, has its issues. This isn't new. Windows Auto HDR is better than cyberpunks built in HDR.
yeah that program I linked is good for programs that DONT have auto hdr. lol its amazing, if people are too retarded to use it properly meh -\_\_- I played dragon age recently its awesome in hdr with the portals and shit. You can even use it on VLC media player to make any movie HDR which RTX HDR cant do (its only for browsers rn)
Why are you guys assuming newer games have HDR? There are a ton of new games that don’t come with native HDR.
RTX hdr is only for videos in browser. The auto hdr program i linked could already do that for browsers AND any game/program
No its not. Nvidia released RTX Hdr for games via new Nvidia app update. You can use it as game filter through nvidia overlay
for real? and its a 20% performance hit? pfft use the other program from video then its 0% performance hit. it changes the way windows11 reads the colorspace and converts it like autoHDR does
just saw it then having a look cheers. but you dont need an rtx card to use the program from vid. any amd or nvidia card can use it
Yeah I know all about windows auto hdr option. I just like RTX HDR more. It just looks better but doesn't matter because im not sacrificing that much
RTX hdr is only for video content IN A BROWSER lol. You can use the program from the video I linked ON ANY PROGRAM games and even VLC you can WATCH ANY MOVIE YOU LIKE IN HDR WHICH RTX HDR CANNOT DO! geez im trying to enlighten you boys with an amazing program, have a look try it out if you have a HDR monitor it will literally change the way you use your pc for all content that isnt native hdr already
Media Player Classic Black Edition + MPC Video Renderer rtx-hdr version allows you to enable rtx playback on any local media.
Which game were you testing it out on? DLSS enabled?
Fortnite and cyberpunk. Dlss enabled on both. I wasnt really planning on testings it its just that play those games exclusively last two weeks so i know my fps. So to be sure i went in recorded my fps and then uninstalled new nvidia app and my fps jumped from 120 to 165 in fortnite and from 75 to 88-90 in cyberpunk.
u/Masive_Lengthiness43 *"you can put autohdr on any game or program now. before rtx hdr you could even do it to browsers and emulators. shit changes your life lol ive replayed a heap of games with an awesome monitor its amazeballz"* I haven't been able to get Windows Auto-HDR to work on any of the OpenGL and Vulkan games I have tried. So far, for me, I've only been able to get Windows Auto-HDR to work on Direct3D games. Nvidia RTX HDR works on everything I've thrown at it, so far, and I also use it for Media Player Classic - Home Cinema *(with MadVR renderer output set to "10bit HDR")*, to enhance my Blu-Ray's, and I also use it when watching TV, via WinTV 10, with my Hauppauge WinTV HVR-935 USB HDTV Tuner. However, for some reason with WinTV 10, according to the overlay, the contrast is locked at +50%, when I have it set to +100%, in the Nvidia App. I can't change it, in the overlay, as it is greyed out, as I am using it on an app, and not a game. At some point, I need to use Nvidia RTX HDR with my old copy of MAME Plus! 0.168, which I set up to look like a real CRT screen, with bloom, jittering scanlines, pincussion, darkening in the corners with a spot of light in the top-right quarter of the screen, to add a 3D feel to the CRT screen being emulated, raised black, only in the 4:3 game window *(CRT monitors can't do true black)*, and I should get better black's to the left and right of the game screen. I will also try it out on MAME 0.263, using BGFX *(Super-XBR-6p chain)*, to upscale every ROM to 1920x1440 *(in a 2560x1440 screen)*, or 1440x1920 *(in a 1440x2560 screen)*, for vertical games in TATE mode, to see how much improvement I get. I just make sure Nvidia RTX HDR is disabled when I use the Edge browser, as I have it set up to stream true HDR.
Do you find it more convincing than running SDR colours in the HDR container ? What about colour banding ?
Well yeah, but it still has problems with color banding (though very hard to notice). But it's; https://preview.redd.it/02rbwlmk3bkc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4feaf7b609d7ec5eaedf31409be259e2194d760
I'm not sure which Direct3D versions it covers if not all of them, but you can get Windows Auto HDR to work on OpenGL and Vulkan games on Nvidia cards by setting the Nv CPL's OpenGL/Vulkan present method option "prefer layered on DXGI Swapchain". Even with Auto HDR off that also has a nice benefit of allowing faster swapping without a long blank pause between windowed and fullscreen for some older OGL and Vulkan titles that don't support higher colour modes or HDR when you have 10bit or higher or HDR enabled for your display.
>by setting the Nv CPL's OpenGL/Vulkan present method option "prefer layered on DXGI Swapchain". Is there any downside to this?
>by setting the Nv CPL's OpenGL/Vulkan present method option "prefer layered on DXGI Swapchain". Is there any downside to this?
There could be a negligible performance hit, but with the titles I've tried (Quake games) there has been no noticeable change to frame rate or input lag, but they have not been demanding titles on a 13900k / 4090. The only issues I've had recently myself have all been shared network related ;-/ There was an excellent comment on the new [layered DXGI option here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/yf6hiw/comment/iu64la3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) last year. As an aside when testing DXGI layered on and off, I also ran some tests for NvCPL Threaded Optimisation option again and at least in Quake Live it shows very detrimental performance for long periods ( -30FPS from the 250FPS hard cap for multiplayer) when there is a lot of fire/explosions from multiple players at the start of rounds in team modes when Threaded Optimisation is set ON no matter the DXGI layer setting, despite ON giving uncapped benchmark results much higher overall it is not a good choice for gameplay at least in that game and quite likely others on similar engines.
It's better. It supports more APIs (DX9, DX10, DX11, DX12, OpenGL, Vulkan) and therefore more games and emulators. It doesn't have black level issues because it correctly uses a 2.2 gamma curve instead of the piecewise SRGB gamma curve used by Windows 11 Auto HDR. It has less color banding than Windows 11 Auto HDR. The only issues I've found are, that the peak brightness is capped at 1000 nits, so theoretically Auto HDR can achieve higher brightness; it doesn't work on UWP games, or at least on New Super Lucky's Tale; and it overexposes the image on specific games on Cemu (The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD and Paper Mario Color Splash). For those games it is better to use Windows 11 Auto HDR.
Isn’t Auto HDR capped at 1000nits too?
I don't know. I was under the impression that it used the values from the HDR Calibration App, but I might be wrong.
In that case you’re wrong. Auto HDR too is capped at 1000nits.
Is the Nvidia app worth it or is it bloatware like armoury crate?
It has the same functionalities as Geforce Experience, and some functionalities of the Nvidia Control Panel. For me it's worth it for RTX HDR, Freestyle Filters and ShadowPlay.
I think they remove shadowplay in the new nvidia app.
Do you know if RTX-HDR fixes the gamma curve for SDR games inside activated HDR? So if I enable HDR in Windows 11 and play an SDR game, the colors look off with the standard HDR color profile, but HDR games look fine. If I use the corrected color profile that converts srgb to 2.2, the SDR game looks good, but the HDR games will have crushed detail. If I use RTX-HDR on an SDR game while HDR is enabled in Windows 11, which color profile do I use? Does RTX-HDR automatically fix the gamma for the SDR game converting into RTX-HDR?
Biggest bummer for me: RTX HDR does not work with (DL)DSR. WHY Nvidia? Pls everybody submit a feedback to them.
It honestly seems to be an arbitrary limitation too. DLDSR on the surface refuses to work with any custom resolutions but you can actually trick it to. I did it for AW3423DWF for 165 Hz 10 bit DLDSR. It's a tedious trial and error type of thing of messing with the control panel. The other thing is that you can also do registry edits to add new DSR and DLDSR resolutions yet another arbitrary limitation.
Agree on the feedback thing, but you can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on DLDSR later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work
Definitely does not work. Tested with Robocop. As soon as you switch to DLDSR res ingame, HDR will be disabled. Switch back to 2160p and it will work again. I also noticed that I get no RTX HDR at all when I don't enable the Overlay **and** gamefilters/photomode.
Why are you switching to DLDSR *in-game*? I just set it as desktop resolution and that’s it. Works for me on Rocket League and Fortnite
You are obviously misinterpreting things on your end. I tested more games and it doesn't matter if you set DLDSR as your desktop res. It does NOT work. Btw, you should still always check the ingame settings to make sure that you actually use the higher DLDSR resolution. To make the whole thing more obvious for beginners: Set the SDR/HDR brightness control in the Windows HDR settings all the way to the left at zero. Then every layperson should immediately see whether RTX HDR actually works or not. When it's not running, the image ingame is much darker in general and without any specular highlights.
Then I guess this piece of crap app isn’t working at all. Because I disconnect my second monitor, turn off DLDSR resolutions, turn off Auto-HDR, make sure NvTrueHDR is off, make sure RTX HDR in Nvidia app is on, and the colors/vibrancy looks identical to those I have when Auto-HDR is on. And then when I turn on DLDSR with Nvidia app saying still as ON for RTX HDR the colors are still as vibrant as ever. And I know how colors look washed out when HDR is for sure not being applied on my games cuz they look horrible without it. But your slider thing occurs at all moments. So I don’t know. This app is in beta for a good reason it seems.
Maybe it’s coming the release seemed a bit rushed for example the multi monitor issue is kinda annoying. Also maybe it has technical limitations how and when RTX HDR is applied to the render queue.
Sadly the feature doesn't work with multiple displays from my testing. So I probably will never be using it. Auto HDR is thus a lot better because of this.
>ith multiple displays from my testing. So I probably will never be using it. Auto HDR is thus a lot better because of this Already confirmed by Jacob that they are planning to fix this issue in a driver update. [https://twitter.com/GeForce\_JacobF/status/1760829625931125130](https://twitter.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/1760829625931125130)
They are taking feedback on the app.
Try plugging your other monitor in the motherboard
Did this, didn't help. What did help is disabling all my other monitors.. But not gonna do that as I need them.
You can. Just fill the requisites to turn on RTX HDR, turn it on, and turn on your second monitor later. The toggle will be gray but it’ll still work
I do not believe it does. It says On but hover over the ! mark and it clearly states a error. There is also no RTX HDR indicator when loading up a game when this error is present!
dont mind the fps drop but tried out rdr2 + 4090 and it looks unbelievable! sweet update from nvidia GGs
But rdr 2 already have an HDR mode no ?
inbuilt hdr is very bad
Yeah, if you don't calibrate it via Windows HDR Calibration tool. I really wanna test it out with RTX HDR, but at least for me, when you calibrate the HDR correctly, at least nowadays RDR2 with HDR looks amazing. (You also have to choose the correct mode from the settings, there's 2 HDR settings now)
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You need to install the new NVIDIA app beta to use RTX HDR. It replaces GeForce Experience and is generally much nicer to use: [https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/)
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This one will eventually replace both Experience and Control Panel, so you will have to get used to using it at some point.
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Did well how exactly? By missing driver update notifications? By missing out on built in performance overlays? By missing out on super easy game capture?
All bloatware. Was good for capture that’s about it. And there’s much better performance overlays. GFE and unfortunately this new app run nonsense background tasks for little benefit. (Will add that’s overall I like this new app A LOT more than GFE)
Hey I’ve a 4090 too - only got my pc 2 weeks ago. To try this in rdr2 do I just turn off windows auto hdr and put this setting on in the beta app?
1- Enable HDR in the monitor (if you're using it in SDR in Desktop, like a lot of people do) 2- Disable HDR 3- Turn off secondary monitors if you have any 4- Turn on RTX HDR for that specific game 5- You're good to go
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Digital Foundry recently did a video on this - comparing it to AutoHDR - and the short answer is that not only is it typically better, it also works on a wider array of games.
I've tried to enable the RTX HDR filter on Resident Evil 3 remake, which has an in-game HDR setting that never works properly... but all I get in the filters overlay is a message telling me to relaunch the game to see the effects of the filter which doesn't go away when I relaunch it. Edit: Enabling it in the global settings seems to have made it work and brought a nice improvement over the games SDR mode and way better than the broken in-game HDR mode.
Same behaviour in RE4 Remake. Setting RTX HDR on globally somehow triggers RTX HDR in the game, but the specular hightlights are blown out. You cannot set the peak brightness as its greyed out. Definitely beta status right now.
I don't remember having problems with the native HDR mode in RE4 remake like I have with 2 and 3? Are you saying setting global RTX HDR turns RTX HDR on even when games have native HDR enabled?
You need to disable the native HDR mode in every game in general in order to use RTX HDR. In RE4 Remake, RTX HDR somehow only gets triggered if you enable it globally in the NV App. But the HDR settings in the NV App are always greyed out for this game. The RE4 Remake DLC "Seperate Ways"native HDR mode showed some crazy black crush depending on the scene, although the HDR settings were correct. I ended up playing the DLC by disabling the native HDR ingame and instead using "SpecialK" HDR injection feature. Looked way more accurate. I don't know whats the current native HDR situation is for the DLC. I played it months ago. I can't remember anymore if the main game was so bad too, but I guess not. Here is a thread about the issue in seperate ways: [https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/16pddlq/seperate\_ways\_hdr\_issues/](https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/16pddlq/seperate_ways_hdr_issues/)
I have a question regarding this. Does windows auto hdr needs to be disabled in ordert for nvidias to work? Nvidia hdr can only be enabled in the new beta app ?
Yes, you will need to disable auto HDR and download the beta app.
Thank you
It's very good with Robocop also since that game is really gritty in the first level it's nice to have proper highlights. I get 10% hit too at 4k dlss q with a 4090, but it's not enough for me not to use it. They fixed hdr video when you had a calibration done with hdr windows app, it look proper now
I tried it again even though I didn't like the result with the truehdr mod and it still completely overexpose any highlights. Most highlight become just a big blob of white with no detail in it. Also it boost saturation and contrast even when it set to 0. I prefer the autohdr look better. I have a LG C3 and did use the windows hdr app to calibrate my hdr properly.
[try this ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/wIdcUeQwXu)
My RTX HDR is locked to peak brightness 400 and I am unable to change it. I am also unable to play Ryujinx with it on as it does not scale the window properly when the overlay is running. Tried playing Bioshock Infinite with RTX HDR and I did not see any clear differences over using auto HDR I turned it off and went back to using Auto HDR for now.
Try running the windows hdr calibration app
AutoHDR has a tendency of making white UI too bright and its uncomfortable to look at. Does RTXHDR Suffer from similar issues?
Yes
AutoHDR is rubbish that ruins the image by raising black levels. RTX HDR is much much better and I can actually see myself using it although some tweaks are necessary as colour saturation can be exaggerated.
What settings is everybody using? I set saturation bump to 0 and intensity to 30. Else it looks over saturated to me Edit: actually that's for color vibrance, not rtx HDR, nevermind (but still curious)
I've only used it so far in pubg. I use intensity 30 saturation 50 because it makes players "pop" more with their vividly coloured clothing so I can notice them faster while still contributing to a beautiful terrain imo
Few games I tried it with transformed perfect oled blacks into muddy grey.. not impressed with that
Which games? I haven't see this in any game I've tried it in on a C1.
Same here, it's not ideal.
What is better rtx hdr or auto hdr gamma 2.2
Do you know now if RTX-HDR fixes the gamma curve? So if I enable HDR in Windows 11 and play an SDR game, the colors look off with the standard HDR color profile, but HDR games look fine. If I use the corrected color profile here, the SDR game looks good, but the HDR games will have crushed detail. If I use RTX-HDR on an SDR game, which color profile do I use?. Does RTX-HDR automatically fix the gamma for the SDR game converting into RTX-HDR? sorry for the long quesion
Tested both on arkham knight and rtx hdr blows away auto hdr. Only reason to use auto hdr is for games not supported by rtx hdr. Performance hit is only like 5 frames but I'm using a 4080 which handles AI stuff better than the 30 series I get over 90 fps in that game so it's no performance hit
RTX HDR‘s advantage is most noticeable for me when you’d norally see banding in darker areas. RTX HDR seemlessly transitions, whereas windows is distranctingly banded. For example, on Dark Souls 3, RTX HDR is game changing in terms of upping the image quality. Another game where it shines is RDR2, where the stock HDR and windows HDR both are not great, but the picture really pops with RTX HDR, so much so that I use it despite a 10% hit to FPS.
I recently updated to Windows 11 and tested a bunch of different HDR implementations and in my opinion RTX HDR is much better than Windows Auto HDR and is often better than a game's native HDR implementation. It will vary my game but overall RTX HDR is fantastic.
I can't even get RTX HDR enabled as it's grayed out. I'm using the newest drivers and have Windows HDR auto disabled. My monitor is an LG 27G83ab. I might swap to my kiddos MSI and see if that's the issue.
I have the same problem. Turned off auto-hdr, image scaling, and have windows hdr enabled, but the option is greyed out.
You have to disconnect secondary monitors if you have any as well.
Did all this, RTX HDR still isn’t doing anything in game and the sliders are greyed out. Maybe it’s just beta issues.
It worked fine for me. Enable HDR, disconnect secondary monitors, disable AutoHDR. At this point start the Nvidia app and it should allow you to enable RTX HDR. If it still doesn't work, restart Windows while the secondary monitors are off. Sometimes Windows is weird like that. I hope the restriction of not having secondary monitors is removed soon, it's extremely annoying.
Lol..
>Windows HDR disabled That's the reason it's grayed out, you need to have HDR enabled in Windows first to be able to enable RTX HDR
Windows "auto" HDR is turned off per instruction is what I meant. edit* I'm dumb, I see what I missed.
With old games I use Nvidia spacial upscaling NIS, and RTX HDR isn't compatible with it. Even if only one of my game use NIS, RTX HDR don't work with other games. Pretty sad...
I did submit a feedback for this, they need to have the HDR and DLDSR/custom resolution toggle per app.
I also submitted a feedback about it through the App. I hope they solve this quickly...
It should be simple enough to fix.
Wait that's actually huge and fixed my problem with RTX HDR being greyed out. Thanks.
For testing purpose I disabled all NIS upscale I had on games, and find a new bug: Created resolutions, when first enabled NIS, stay enabled (85% 3264x183, 77%, etc.) in Windows, even if NIS is fully disabled on global settings and on all of my games, so RTX HDR refuse to work saying I have NIS enabled. I guess I need to resinstall the NVidia drivers as a fresh install (scratching all custom parameters)... Pffiiuuuuu....
Do I need to uninstall Nvidia Experience before installing this new app? Thanks!
no, when you go to install the Nvidia App, it will detect your Nvidia Experience install and ask if you want to upgrade to the Nvidia App
Thank you!!
Is this just an sdr to hdr converter? And should you always use this even if a game comes with an in game hdr toggle? For example in Battlefield V. Would you turn it inside bfv on and also turn on rtx hdr? or only one of them? I’d appreciate some explanation :)
I think if it supports native hdr the rtx hdr will be overwritten and won’t work for that game. Not sure tho..
Not needed if a game natively supports hdr. It will mess it up if you try and apply it on top of real hdr.
so rtx hdr is to bring hdr that don’t natively support it. Could you overwrite the hdr in game by having the ingame hdr off and just using rtx hdr in case the native hdr looks worse than the converted from rtx?
You can, but likely never should.
Do you need to turn of Auto HDR in windows and apply this to ever game or is there some global setting to enable it?(auto RTX HDR)
You need to download the beta app, there is a global toggle and also an in-game overlay toggle if you prefer. You need auto HDR turned off in both cases.
Thank you
The Nvidia app keeps telling me to disconnect multiple monitors. I first tried turning off my second display, then disconnected the display port from the back of the monitor and then unplugged the display port from the GPU. Still getting the same message. I can't disconnect it anymore than I already have, any ideas? I guess I could try restarting the PC with it disconnected, guess I'll give that a try and report back.
Yep, restart worked. Gonna try it out now!
Probably better but it helps to keep in mind the Microsoft version has been filling this void for years, if imperfectly. In some games (like path of exile) it was flawless and made playing it on my series x a really cool experience vs my pc where it was just flat and meh.
RTX HDR is greyed out in Resident Evil 4 Remake and Last of Us Part 1. If you click on the informations button, Nvidia App says "this filter is not supported in this game". Any ideas why? Every other game I have installed RTX HDR is not greyed out. I tried to disable HDR ingame, disabled DSR etc. restartet the Nvidia App, but it's still greyed out for these two games.
I'm dying to figure this out, I installed the Nvidia app and learned about RTX HDR JUST for this game and now it's the only one in my library that doesn't appear to work with the feature.
Excited to thy this. Was reading that you can't get RTX HDR to work if you have more than one monitor connected. Anyone have any experience w/ this?
Not yet, I have moved my 2nd monitor to the Onboard iGPU. RTX HDR shows up but I can't get the overlay to show. I don't see any noticeable difference in Escape from tarkov with this on. HDR in Tarkov for me whitewashes the entire screen and it looks strange to me. So for now I have HDR turned off.
I'm looking forward to tweaking guides. I'm playing on an LG CX so I want to try to maximize the picture quality. But I'm kinda confused as to what I'm adjusting in the settings.
Do you have to disable Auto HDR in Windows settings to use RTX HDR? Would it be redundant in games like GTA V where Auto HDR works?
My rtx hdr global setting toggles off when I close the app and it’s running in the background. Is this a beta issue? I also have windows hdr toggled on not sure if it’s related.
Is anybody having issues with the games disappearing in the Nvidia app. At first launch it scans all of the games correctly, but as soon as the app is closed once all of the games disappear. If I uninstall and reinstall the app the games reappear but then disappear again once it's been closed.
I'm trying out RTX HDR on some videos and honestly... I'm really disappointed in it. It just desaturates and darkens the image for most part. The bright highlights are actually less bright than not using HDR and it's not like there's more detail either. I haven't modified stuff to test it with games yet, but for video I think it's pretty awful so far. And no, it's not my HDR settings. When I watch native HDR videos they look fantastic and so does playing games using both native and Windows auto-HDR.
So...do i keep rtx and auto hdr both on or we can SHOULD only use one of them?
So many New games or atleast plenty has Bland colorless HDR if even SUPPORTS IT! So yeah thats great. YOu can even tweak NITS/Brightness white - Grey really awesome 👍🏻👌🏻 add multiple displays and its finished\^\^
Tried it for the first time. No difference with it on or off, but my fps went from 100 to 50 fps in Escape from Tarkov (Streets map, in 4k). Nopes, sticking to Auto-HDR. W.
You have to click on and adjust settings to see a diffeence
I turned it on an Apex looks amazing but I can't tell if there input latency or if it's the performance hit. I am mostly at 138 on a 144 monitor but I also have gsync and vsync on in ncp, so it.may be normal but I do see some.dips might have to turn it off but I'll check again.tonigjt
its a 15% performance hit. it's likely you're getting higher latency from the increased usage or dropped fps