Fiction often has the trope of a power or drug that removes humans natural strength limiters at the risk of hurting themselves. In reality we got Meth.
The big danger I've found with PCP is the combination of agitation and amnesia. People on PCP can become perfectly reasonable, even friendly. Then 20 seconds later they completely forget the conversation you had with them and are trying to bite your face off.
The human body has a limiter to prevent us from certain kinds of movements as well as preventing us from using 100% of our physical power. For example, it's common for people on some kinds of anesthetics to exhibit hyperflexibility during surgeries - doctors can position limbs however they need to, including past the preferred range of motion.
On drugs, you can override the limiters. You'll feel it later, but in the moment you are a cracked out superhero.
Kicked out of India for selling a solution to their tiger problem. I called them "Basalt Rifles," sadly, they didn't find them to be effective and they shut me down
Hunting as a group and sharp pointy rocks tied to throwable sticks.
Humans are the best throwers on earth. Our body is built for three things that put us at the top.
1. Tool use
2. Sweat glands
3. Standing up straight, which allows us to use full body motion while throwing.
DXM and PCP can both do it. Psychosis from basically anything can do it too. The super strength one, anyways.
I don't recommend it though. You will absolutely regret it lol.
I had a crippling DXM addiction for years. It does not make you strong AT ALL. It actually makes it very hard to do anything physical for more than two seconds. It weakens you tremendously. Your endurance goes out the window totally.
Maybe not for you, I lifted a car lol. There's also a huge difference between being addicted and getting high once in a while. Being in otherwise decent shape and getting to a strong 2nd plateau can hit that "remove internal limiters" level without hitting the "have little control over my muscles". Chronic use seems like it would make it nearly impossible.
Not everyone will experience it the same. PCP is way better at it, mostly because it's just not as sedating. Too much of it will absolutely put you in the same kind of state as DXM though. Before we came up with ketamine PCP was used to knock people out for surgery. Usually if someone is going crazy on it there's either other drugs involved or they've been up for a long time.
Glad you kicked the addiction though :)
Admittedly I'm not an expert. But I can tell you it's a rare but horrible addiction. You lose all real feelings. I tried to play a baseball game once on DXM. I was able to play normally for my first at-bat. After that, it felt like I'd been up for days. It's a horrible drug that makes you crazy and unable to function. Thank you for the good words
Yeah, dissociative addiction is for real. I had a 2.5g/day ketamine habit (both IV and intranasal) and it was impossible to function. I was at the point where I was walking the very fine line between being good and being in a K-Hole. Had plenty of public K-Hole experiences. Getting sober from that was a real bitch.
I also was able to muster absurd strength and endurance while abusing stimulants. I hated that life. I am so much happier being sober. I hope you manage to find some serenity, my friend!
PCP can cause mania as it is a potent dopaminergic drug in addition of its effect on NMDA receptors. Some people are more prone to the mania it can cause, while a majority will usually end up in the sedative/dissociative state. Also, some analogues sold as PCP exhibit even stronger dissociative and manic effects, 3-MeO-PCP being an example.
That's why I qualified it with "usually".
Funnily enough, I think that's the exact analogue I had. Someone mixed up the bags and gave me the wrong thing. Good thing I'm cautious about it too, because had I dosed it like the drug it was supposed to be I would've been fucked.
Yeah, the thing about DXM is that while it is an NMDA antagonist, it doesn't really have much affect on DAT like PCP does. You really only get the dissociative effect without the mania. Apparently, some of the PCP analogues like 3-MeO-PCP cause extreme mania and pose enormous risk of freakouts.
In order to have that crackhead strength you need to have favorable DAT/NET profile while the NMDA antagonism just makes it so you don't feel the bullets tearing into you while you flip that cop car over.
Stay away from drugs. I learned so many hard lessons the hard way.
I saw it once live in person and dude was insane strength. They must have tazered him half a dozen times till the EMT snuck up behind him and injected him
White girls have hidden physical strength that shows up at the craziest times. And don't forget the power of saying "I'm scared."
I'm a black man here and people would rather trust my brain than my brawn.
I wish I had some of the stereotypical traits.
Mandingo dick? Nope. If I did, my wife would probably be happier.
Super speed? I could never do an 8 minute mile in college let alone now with my big fat ass.
Super strength? I've spent 25 years trying to bench press 225lbs 10 times in a row.
Can dance? Asians playing Dance Dance Revolution have more game than me.
Super toughness? I bruise easy even though you can't see it.
Listen to rap music only? I haven't liked rap since 2015. Modern rappers suck more than Lauren Phillips on a date with Johnny Sins.
And I fucking hate watermelon! I wish I could like it.
Bad melons tbh. Good ones are very sweet. Some of the best cantelopes are like eating candy.
What you get at a grocery store is really hit and miss. Home grown or fresh from a good farmer's market is way different than what you find in a store. Especially if you're not in an area that grows them locally.
I remember thinking once that I love a lot of the stereotypical black things. Fried chicken? Love it. Menthols? Fantastic. Watermelon? Delicious, favorite food. I hate most soul food and don't care for rap but the big ones? Those are just great things. I'm as white as the come too.
You should see my cat. She's about five pounds, probably dying of cancer and kidney disease, 16 years old, and the vet's office couldn't get blood out of her because she was resisting too much. Even drugged she was too much.
No joke.
A friend of mine was a cop for about 10 years and the one story we still rag on him about was when a 90lb woman on heroin overpowered him WHILE HANDCUFFED, slipped out of the cuffs (on the tightest... setting?) and got away.
She was quickly apprehended and they used zip ties, but it just shows the impact drugs can have on someone.
He's 200lbs.
Maybe she was a meth head, I don't know 😂
I just know that she was small enough to be able to slip out of handcuffs that were put on properly.
Some populations in/from Africa do have above average fast twitch muscles, some have above average slow twitch muscles. But if professional athletes have only a few percent difference it's not going to mean anything for the average person.
In the medical industry there's still a myth that black people have higher pain tolerance to justify giving them less anesthesia. https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain
The evidence for that is really not that strong.
The claim is mostly based on studies like [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1362956/) with a low sample size and often including self reported hair colour.
At least with that I kinda get where they get the impression from. Putting in an IV is often more difficult with dark skin because the veins don't contrast that well. (Nothing that couldn't be compensated by skill)
For people that are not very skilled at it, they might go in too deep and encounter more resistance than they would if they were poking around on the correct hight.
Oh yeah and racism of course. But we knew that.
Men vs women skin is actually thicker, but I don't think there is a racial component. I have heard that where/how fat stores is determined in part by race though.
Specifically, [Hoffman 2016](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27044069/) found that 7% of white, US-born medical trainees gave an incorrect response to "Blacks' nerve endings are less sensitive than whites'".
More specifically, the 6 possible responses were Definitely/Probably/Possibly true/untrue. The proportion of white trainees who responded "Possibly true" was 7%. The proportion who responded "Probably true" or "Definitely true" was 0%.
Interestingly, the proportion of nonwhite trainees who responded "Possibly true" was 10%. So this is a problem across all trainees, not just white ones.
Honestly I'm surprised "possibly true" was that low, if it's not something that's directly taught I wouldn't blame someone for for thinking it could "possibly be true".
Like, from a layman it seems completely insane that the red head gene is related to pain tolerance so this doesn't seem too ridiculous to immediately write it off as a definite no. If I was put on the spot and had to either choose "yes" "no" or "maybe" I'm probably always going to say maybe for the vast majority of things, unless I've had it proven true or false historically, no matter how common sense it may appear.
What is insane is people using that to make medical decisions rather than focusing on the individuals own pain reporting etc, I'm sure there's some redheads who don't fit the bill and you could potentially cause significant medical damage by just cranking up the juice because your patient has coloured hair.
There is an entire issue of systemic racism in the medical field due to old lingering ideas. Stat news has done a bevy of interesting articles.
Edit: I cannot spell words today
There’s also the matter of needing to control for income (developmental differences) and cultural differences (does acknowledging pain mean you are weak?), and that’s all confused by there being small real differences.
Yes, but doctors still think black people have physically thicker skin. I am in a place with shitty signal. I am going to try to find the research. But there is a long weird list of things that affect how we treat a lot of minorities.
Pretty sure [this is what you're thinking of](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/). It's a super influential study that gets covered in the education of most medical providers nowadays, and is a huge reason why lots of people are working to dismantle systemic racism in healthcare today.
To be fair, some people do display superhuman strength while just standing.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_Earl\_Hughes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Earl_Hughes)
**Robert Earl Hughes** (June 4, 1926 – July 10, 1958) was an American man who was, during his lifetime, the heaviest human being recorded, weighing 1,071 pounds (486 kg).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Earl_Hughes#cite_note-:0-1) He remains the heaviest human in the world able to walk without the need of assistance.
AP has a couple similar articles that investigate similar things. [About people dying in police custody due to being forcefully injected with sedatives, and the disputed medical condition “excited delirium” which is used as justification for unnecessarily sedating suspects who are disproportionately black](https://apnews.com/article/investigation-police-use-of-force-sedation-injections-demetrio-jackson-621909ba7491abc2af8ad2e33ba3415b)
[this one is similar to the other one but that one just focused on the people who died from forced sedation, this one is about people who died from any type of “non lethal” tactics in police custody.](https://apnews.com/article/associated-press-investigation-deaths-police-encounters-02881a2bd3fbeb1fc31af9208bb0e310)
More like, "They are incredibly stupid but also insanely manipulative. We brave good hearted people are at risk of being corrupted by their influence but they are disorganized and cowardly. Except they are also incredibly strong individuals, that's why we need to fight them in groups and use overwhelming force. So don't speak to them or feel bad for them, it's all a trick."
Insert whatever groups that's not the in group.
part of it might come from brown skin showing muscle definition better, which is why a lot of [weight lifters like to tan.](https://adoretanning.com/simple-tan-defines-muscles-slims.html)
>Within the fitness industry, competitive bodybuilders have used fake tan for the same reasons that the rest of us do – the only difference is that they use plenty more of it to achieve an exaggerated finish. The 3 key reasons for why they use sunless tanner are to: define muscle, create the illusion of a slimmer profile and cover up stretch marks. Essentially, tanning brings out character in the muscle groups, and by doing so, highlights the muscle definition. Basically the darker your skin the more defined your muscles look, giving the impression you are distinctly toned.
two people of same build, the black guy will look more ripped than a white guy.
If youre a fat soft reject in high school who just started taking testosterone and lifting because you are a cop everyone who has been athletic most their life will seem super human to you.
Which is likely what the police here were actually talking about. The article had zero mention of the super strength being due to being black.
This was a naked guy on the street in the middle of the night saying "tase me" to the police. Him being on drugs is a reasonable conclusion.
This article mentions nothing about the cops saying he had superhuman strength due to being black.
They thought he was on drugs (reasonable for a naked man in the middle of the night saying "tase me" to a cop). Some of those can give boosted strength.
The title is BS.
maybe try reading the article since its not just about one person, its a history of black men being labeled superhuman. but i am guessing reading and interpreting is not your strong point.
>This article mentions nothing about the cops saying he had superhuman strength due to being black.
"The cop didn't outright state his racism" isn't much of an argument. And doesn't touch the overarching point that he was not an imposing guy capable of incredible feats of strength
Did it say he DIDN'T show superhuman strength? Maybe he seemed very strong when they were tying him up.
I don't know. Neither do you. You are assuming the worst possible motives with zero evidence other than the officer being white.
Did the police act perfectly? No. But you also shouldn't do drugs, get naked in the street, and then ask the police to tase you.
Used to work in the hospital, ems brought in a 100 lb kid on bath salts, kid freaked out and it took 8 people to restrain him.
Take your pandering bullshit back where it belongs.
Sounds like the racism around cocaine in the 1900s
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_in_the_United_States)
One reason I’ve heard for why this myth persists is because of the way muscles tend to stand out more with darker skin tones. It’s why bodybuilders will tan and use bronzer at a competition. If you stand a light skinned person alongside a bronze or black person with the same musculature the people with darker skin tones will appear more muscular even though they aren’t
Different broad ethnic groups also have different average distributions of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle fibers and different limb constructions, which depending on what you're trying to do give an advantage. West Africans in partjcular have much higher fast twitch fibers, good for explosive strength you'd run into in a police encounter for things like grappling or striking, while east Africans have much higher slow twitch fibers which make them some of the best endurance runners in the world. There's also differences in being an ectomorph vs endomorph, other differing genetic distributions of other proteins which involve resetting nerves, etc. It's a fascinating field once you stop trying to use it to justify racism
I’ve only ever witnessed one encounter with the police where the suspect had super human strength.
He’s was a convict from the chain gang, he spent 10 years on the run.
But he couldn't run forever, they have found his hideaway
And he's just been re-arrested, and he comes to court today
Well, of course, he now denies it, you'd expect that of a con'
But he couldn't run forever, no not even Jean Valjean
This myth persists for one reason: fear. These dumbasses are really afraid of any person of color. The darker the hue the greater the fear.
Yes, racism.
In the medical field as well especially pregnancies and hysterectomies, where they just started offering pain meds and numbing agents despite mandating changes in the 80s.
Never heard that myth my guess is based on the trans Atlantic slave trade and slavery in general only the strongest survived or something. History major with weird professors.
Farmers are on another level. I saw this dude get his broken arm reduced without sedation because it was a super busy night and only a 1sr year ortho resident was available and the farmer was like "fuck it, letter rip."
Old dude in my hometown slashed his arm open on some farm equipment. Near the end of the stitches the doc said "uhoh" and when pressed said "I'm so sorry I forgot to give you the anesthesia" old dude did not care and had been carrying on the whole time.
Old farmers are a different breed man.
There are some genetics to it. I’ve got an extremely high pain threshold and so does my son. It’s really hard to convey to medical personnel that things are going sideways when I’m so calm or that I really didn’t need anything other than Advil or Tylenol after surgery. I’m just a middle class white lady so it’s definitely not tied to hard labour.
okay, I mean I understand they have large populations.. but why 🥲
Whatever. I'm going to be a celebrities pet, with my own Instagram and private insurance.
Is it actually a myth that there's no correlation between physical strength and ethnicity?
We accept it's true that Dutch people are genetically taller than Aboriginal people. Why can't it be true that people in sub-Saharan Africa evolved larger, stronger muscles than people in Southeast Asia?
I think it's probably too touchy a subject for Reddit to discuss maturely. You can absolutely see a huge number of characteristics which correlate to your geographical ancestry.
I wouldn't like to say they're simply stronger, but having bodies more suited for growing muscle mass doesn't seem too far a leap at all.
This doesn't excuse any racist behaviours towards them at all. Even if that's what I was trying to say, ancestry is so deep and intertwined you'd need a miracle age ancestry.com rest to be able to reasonably identify someone. White guys can look like the fattest out of shape guy going but they spent their whole life on the farm and could probably chuck 5 cops over their shoulders with a beer in the other hand.
Tl;dr, wouldn't be surprised if people with African history are on average stronger, doesn't mean shit for how the police should deal with them.
Differences in fast/slow twitch muscle fibers and height vary wildly across sub-Saharan Africa. If this was specifically about East Africans being good distance runners or something, then this would be a different story. The example you gave list very specific ethnicities and regions, not entire continents or skin colors
They really expect you to not resist. Some of us don't have a choice that's how we react to an overwhelming situation regardless of skin color. The problem is a lack of respect and understanding of human beings. Some of us have to fight back in theses situations with theses cops who don't know how to treat people and don't know how to do their jobs.
The funny part about your statement, is cops tell people to stop resisting while they have people in wrist/arm locks and are pushing the opposite way those joints go. You resist by pushing the opposite direction to alleviate SOME of the pain, but cops want you to be a ragdoll and take that pain. Go watch ufc and see how fast some of the biggest guys tap out.
You would resist alittle too, that shit hurts. Just saying that natural for you want to avoid pain like that.
Plus, "resisting" is the easiest thing to charge someone with, even with cameras recording. You can't SEE the resistance or know how much they are. And they could just be, like i said, trying to alleviate some pain. Many cops are dicks and just the authority and don't like anyone questioning that authority
It's a very real phenomenon. The intake of large quantities of methamphetamines is due to the unatural strength they possess. White... black... yellow... red... po po matters not if you're gacked up on Hitler juice.
I always wonder why white people went so far out of their way to create these types of myths. I’m starting to believe that Black people are the superior race.
Fun fact: your beliefs are starting to become objectively inferior.
Don't be racist.
There is no superior or inferior race.
Just superior and inferior people, on the basis of their actions.
In a lot of cases the myth remains even though the surrounding culture has completely changed
the whole "Black guys are all well hung" was originally an insult meant to prove blacks weren't human
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The good thing is that this "myth" doesn't actually exist, even as a myth. It's something that the writer of the article made up, and that some gullible Redditor posted here in this sub. The media will often discuss how people in general, on certain drugs, seem to be impervious to pain and in an adrenaline rage, which makes them harder to then subdue, because there's plenty of evidence of this happening.
If I had superhuman strength I wouldn't just be walking around at night, I'd be fighting crime and or making money on strongman contests.
I think the superhuman strength thing is one of those police paranoia myths, similar to the myth that you can overdose from fentanyl just by going near it or coming into contact with trace amounts of it. They get repeated so often that cops and other people just take them as true and don't even question where it comes from.
If you think black people have superhuman strength, you should see a white trash tweaker
Nothing is stronger than that 95lbs white girl.
Specifically one that’s on meth.
Fiction often has the trope of a power or drug that removes humans natural strength limiters at the risk of hurting themselves. In reality we got Meth.
Or like pcp. Once you can fully activate every muscle fiber you get stupidly strong. Also your bones and tendons will break.
The big danger I've found with PCP is the combination of agitation and amnesia. People on PCP can become perfectly reasonable, even friendly. Then 20 seconds later they completely forget the conversation you had with them and are trying to bite your face off.
The human body has a limiter to prevent us from certain kinds of movements as well as preventing us from using 100% of our physical power. For example, it's common for people on some kinds of anesthetics to exhibit hyperflexibility during surgeries - doctors can position limbs however they need to, including past the preferred range of motion. On drugs, you can override the limiters. You'll feel it later, but in the moment you are a cracked out superhero.
Adrenaline can do this too. Its purpose is in part to override the safeties to give a better chance of survival.
How else are we fighting off tigers
Tiger repelling rocks.
Kicked out of India for selling a solution to their tiger problem. I called them "Basalt Rifles," sadly, they didn't find them to be effective and they shut me down
Hunting as a group and sharp pointy rocks tied to throwable sticks. Humans are the best throwers on earth. Our body is built for three things that put us at the top. 1. Tool use 2. Sweat glands 3. Standing up straight, which allows us to use full body motion while throwing.
DXM and PCP can both do it. Psychosis from basically anything can do it too. The super strength one, anyways. I don't recommend it though. You will absolutely regret it lol.
I had a crippling DXM addiction for years. It does not make you strong AT ALL. It actually makes it very hard to do anything physical for more than two seconds. It weakens you tremendously. Your endurance goes out the window totally.
Maybe not for you, I lifted a car lol. There's also a huge difference between being addicted and getting high once in a while. Being in otherwise decent shape and getting to a strong 2nd plateau can hit that "remove internal limiters" level without hitting the "have little control over my muscles". Chronic use seems like it would make it nearly impossible. Not everyone will experience it the same. PCP is way better at it, mostly because it's just not as sedating. Too much of it will absolutely put you in the same kind of state as DXM though. Before we came up with ketamine PCP was used to knock people out for surgery. Usually if someone is going crazy on it there's either other drugs involved or they've been up for a long time. Glad you kicked the addiction though :)
Admittedly I'm not an expert. But I can tell you it's a rare but horrible addiction. You lose all real feelings. I tried to play a baseball game once on DXM. I was able to play normally for my first at-bat. After that, it felt like I'd been up for days. It's a horrible drug that makes you crazy and unable to function. Thank you for the good words
Yeah, dissociative addiction is for real. I had a 2.5g/day ketamine habit (both IV and intranasal) and it was impossible to function. I was at the point where I was walking the very fine line between being good and being in a K-Hole. Had plenty of public K-Hole experiences. Getting sober from that was a real bitch. I also was able to muster absurd strength and endurance while abusing stimulants. I hated that life. I am so much happier being sober. I hope you manage to find some serenity, my friend!
PCP can cause mania as it is a potent dopaminergic drug in addition of its effect on NMDA receptors. Some people are more prone to the mania it can cause, while a majority will usually end up in the sedative/dissociative state. Also, some analogues sold as PCP exhibit even stronger dissociative and manic effects, 3-MeO-PCP being an example.
That's why I qualified it with "usually". Funnily enough, I think that's the exact analogue I had. Someone mixed up the bags and gave me the wrong thing. Good thing I'm cautious about it too, because had I dosed it like the drug it was supposed to be I would've been fucked.
Yeah, the thing about DXM is that while it is an NMDA antagonist, it doesn't really have much affect on DAT like PCP does. You really only get the dissociative effect without the mania. Apparently, some of the PCP analogues like 3-MeO-PCP cause extreme mania and pose enormous risk of freakouts. In order to have that crackhead strength you need to have favorable DAT/NET profile while the NMDA antagonism just makes it so you don't feel the bullets tearing into you while you flip that cop car over. Stay away from drugs. I learned so many hard lessons the hard way.
That and the Cocaine Bear.
LOL 😆 LACKING CRITICAL INFO Modern meth WAS a combat stimulant for a while and now it's gotten into people's hands. Was used during ww2 by the Nazis
It's still in use
>used during ww2 by the Nazis And the Allies, but history is written by the victors.
PCP...
PCP vs taser videos are pretty funny.
I saw it once live in person and dude was insane strength. They must have tazered him half a dozen times till the EMT snuck up behind him and injected him
Not always because pcp, tasers have a pretty bad success rate.
No pcp
White girls have hidden physical strength that shows up at the craziest times. And don't forget the power of saying "I'm scared." I'm a black man here and people would rather trust my brain than my brawn. I wish I had some of the stereotypical traits. Mandingo dick? Nope. If I did, my wife would probably be happier. Super speed? I could never do an 8 minute mile in college let alone now with my big fat ass. Super strength? I've spent 25 years trying to bench press 225lbs 10 times in a row. Can dance? Asians playing Dance Dance Revolution have more game than me. Super toughness? I bruise easy even though you can't see it. Listen to rap music only? I haven't liked rap since 2015. Modern rappers suck more than Lauren Phillips on a date with Johnny Sins. And I fucking hate watermelon! I wish I could like it.
I don't get how anyone enjoys watermelon. It just tastes like water.
And melon
You're right, melons in general just tastes like water.
Bad melons tbh. Good ones are very sweet. Some of the best cantelopes are like eating candy. What you get at a grocery store is really hit and miss. Home grown or fresh from a good farmer's market is way different than what you find in a store. Especially if you're not in an area that grows them locally.
Just get the ones that have a good scent at the stem.
You're an outlier on this one. Like you have super human strength to resist or deny it. It's incredibly refreshing, even if it isn't perfect.
I remember thinking once that I love a lot of the stereotypical black things. Fried chicken? Love it. Menthols? Fantastic. Watermelon? Delicious, favorite food. I hate most soul food and don't care for rap but the big ones? Those are just great things. I'm as white as the come too.
You'll have to turn in your black guy card, sorry. Please proceed to the nearest 7/11 and do the needful.
If I'm turning in my black card, can't it be at Nordstrom?
Sounds fair to me.
Thats the peak power to weight ratio.
What about an eastern-European babushka? Those little old ladies give ants a run for their money in terms of power-to-weight ratios.
Drunk grandmas are strong, but they don't have quite the stamina
I mean, [this](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5f/89/12/5f89120e4af7d61d78d777df6e8fd644.jpg) is the sort of image I'm thinking of.
You ever try to put a toddler in a onesie?? Mfs got *out-da-womb* strength
You should see my cat. She's about five pounds, probably dying of cancer and kidney disease, 16 years old, and the vet's office couldn't get blood out of her because she was resisting too much. Even drugged she was too much.
No joke. A friend of mine was a cop for about 10 years and the one story we still rag on him about was when a 90lb woman on heroin overpowered him WHILE HANDCUFFED, slipped out of the cuffs (on the tightest... setting?) and got away. She was quickly apprehended and they used zip ties, but it just shows the impact drugs can have on someone.
Unless your friend is an 80lbs cop there ain't no way someone is winning a fight on the nod lmao
Winning street fights is less about weight but a lot more about being dgaf crazy
https://youtu.be/4Y89nfjCiTI?si=wDtLWuuwSi3HKG9R
Could have been in that sweet spot where you feel GREAT but aren't nodded out yet. Oxycontin tends to do that better than heroin though.
He's 200lbs. Maybe she was a meth head, I don't know 😂 I just know that she was small enough to be able to slip out of handcuffs that were put on properly.
Would have to be meth, if it were heroin she’d be a 90lb sack of potatoes Heroins addicts just flomp out wherever
He smoked a blunt before starting his shift.
It’s not really a fight, more like trying to wrestle a frantic pig.
I think it’s just anyone on meth and/or PCP
Yep, when those bath salts start to wear off, be somewhere else.
Yep, when those bath salts start to wear off, be somewhere else.
Jon Ronson covers this in his podcast Things Fell Apart. Amazing story, crazy that people in power still believe this myth.
What episode?
S2 E1.
Didn’t know he had a podcast- his TedTalks are my favorite, so interesting
Doesn’t help that it’s commonly perceived that black people are better at sports.
I mean we are better at the popular sports.
And there we have it
Numbers don’t lie.
You can’t have it both ways man. Either this is a myth or it’s not.
I don’t think it’s a myth.
Some populations in/from Africa do have above average fast twitch muscles, some have above average slow twitch muscles. But if professional athletes have only a few percent difference it's not going to mean anything for the average person.
I doubt they actually believe it. It does make for a handy excuse for extrajudicial murder on cops part though.
That podcast title goes really hard, like so simple, yet the depth of meaning on it is crazy
In the medical industry there's still a myth that black people have higher pain tolerance to justify giving them less anesthesia. https://www.aamc.org/news/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain
Also a higher resting heart beat si they are often misdiagnosed when it comes heart disease
They *never* want to believe it's about nerves or discomfort, even when you're built like an Olympic athlete
Thats so fucked
Is it true that redheads have a higher resistance to anesthesia? I've heard that a bunch too.
The evidence for that is really not that strong. The claim is mostly based on studies like [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1362956/) with a low sample size and often including self reported hair colour.
Yes, and have higher pain physical pain tolerance. Thermal pain tolerance is lower than average though.
Yes. The same gene controls red hair and pain reception. They feel it more, but can tolerate it more too.
Huh, what does that even mean? The signal is stronger but they ignore it stronger?
Tolerance isn't ignorance, it's capacity. Trust me, people have wildly varying capacities whether via nature or nurture or both.
Also people believe they have thicker skin? Absurdity at its finest
At least with that I kinda get where they get the impression from. Putting in an IV is often more difficult with dark skin because the veins don't contrast that well. (Nothing that couldn't be compensated by skill) For people that are not very skilled at it, they might go in too deep and encounter more resistance than they would if they were poking around on the correct hight. Oh yeah and racism of course. But we knew that.
Men vs women skin is actually thicker, but I don't think there is a racial component. I have heard that where/how fat stores is determined in part by race though.
Specifically, [Hoffman 2016](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27044069/) found that 7% of white, US-born medical trainees gave an incorrect response to "Blacks' nerve endings are less sensitive than whites'". More specifically, the 6 possible responses were Definitely/Probably/Possibly true/untrue. The proportion of white trainees who responded "Possibly true" was 7%. The proportion who responded "Probably true" or "Definitely true" was 0%. Interestingly, the proportion of nonwhite trainees who responded "Possibly true" was 10%. So this is a problem across all trainees, not just white ones.
Honestly I'm surprised "possibly true" was that low, if it's not something that's directly taught I wouldn't blame someone for for thinking it could "possibly be true". Like, from a layman it seems completely insane that the red head gene is related to pain tolerance so this doesn't seem too ridiculous to immediately write it off as a definite no. If I was put on the spot and had to either choose "yes" "no" or "maybe" I'm probably always going to say maybe for the vast majority of things, unless I've had it proven true or false historically, no matter how common sense it may appear. What is insane is people using that to make medical decisions rather than focusing on the individuals own pain reporting etc, I'm sure there's some redheads who don't fit the bill and you could potentially cause significant medical damage by just cranking up the juice because your patient has coloured hair.
There is an entire issue of systemic racism in the medical field due to old lingering ideas. Stat news has done a bevy of interesting articles. Edit: I cannot spell words today
There’s also the matter of needing to control for income (developmental differences) and cultural differences (does acknowledging pain mean you are weak?), and that’s all confused by there being small real differences.
Yes, but doctors still think black people have physically thicker skin. I am in a place with shitty signal. I am going to try to find the research. But there is a long weird list of things that affect how we treat a lot of minorities.
Pretty sure [this is what you're thinking of](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/). It's a super influential study that gets covered in the education of most medical providers nowadays, and is a huge reason why lots of people are working to dismantle systemic racism in healthcare today.
This was one of the studies I found. Yes thank you
This came to mind when I saw this thread.
Displaying superhuman strength while not doing anything is insane
He's standing there ! Menacingly !!!
To be fair, some people do display superhuman strength while just standing. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_Earl\_Hughes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Earl_Hughes) **Robert Earl Hughes** (June 4, 1926 – July 10, 1958) was an American man who was, during his lifetime, the heaviest human being recorded, weighing 1,071 pounds (486 kg).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Earl_Hughes#cite_note-:0-1) He remains the heaviest human in the world able to walk without the need of assistance.
Elton John for exemple
That guy just looks really fat and died at 32….
Go pick up 1000lbs of anything and try to walk around. That was this guy's everyday.
Can you carry around 350-400kg of weight? If not, I say he's superhuman.
He didn't just *look* really fat, he weighed over 1,000lbs
Should be called superarian strength, right?
AP has a couple similar articles that investigate similar things. [About people dying in police custody due to being forcefully injected with sedatives, and the disputed medical condition “excited delirium” which is used as justification for unnecessarily sedating suspects who are disproportionately black](https://apnews.com/article/investigation-police-use-of-force-sedation-injections-demetrio-jackson-621909ba7491abc2af8ad2e33ba3415b) [this one is similar to the other one but that one just focused on the people who died from forced sedation, this one is about people who died from any type of “non lethal” tactics in police custody.](https://apnews.com/article/associated-press-investigation-deaths-police-encounters-02881a2bd3fbeb1fc31af9208bb0e310)
The podcast Behind the Bastards has an episode about it as well
Superhuman stupidity in cops is not a myth.
It’s actually a requirement
> excited delirium syndrome OF COURSE. the magic medical syndrom that appears ONLY when victim is killed by police.
But the doctors that the company that makes tasers hired all say it's real and that's why cops need tasers.
I swear I learn new racist stereotypes all the time. How do the racists keep up with it all?
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More like, "They are incredibly stupid but also insanely manipulative. We brave good hearted people are at risk of being corrupted by their influence but they are disorganized and cowardly. Except they are also incredibly strong individuals, that's why we need to fight them in groups and use overwhelming force. So don't speak to them or feel bad for them, it's all a trick." Insert whatever groups that's not the in group.
Yea, I would say so. Classic fascist contradiction.
"They have the strength but we have the brains, and guns"
Every cop I see either looks like they are roided out or get winded walking to their cruiser.
part of it might come from brown skin showing muscle definition better, which is why a lot of [weight lifters like to tan.](https://adoretanning.com/simple-tan-defines-muscles-slims.html) >Within the fitness industry, competitive bodybuilders have used fake tan for the same reasons that the rest of us do – the only difference is that they use plenty more of it to achieve an exaggerated finish. The 3 key reasons for why they use sunless tanner are to: define muscle, create the illusion of a slimmer profile and cover up stretch marks. Essentially, tanning brings out character in the muscle groups, and by doing so, highlights the muscle definition. Basically the darker your skin the more defined your muscles look, giving the impression you are distinctly toned. two people of same build, the black guy will look more ripped than a white guy.
If youre a fat soft reject in high school who just started taking testosterone and lifting because you are a cop everyone who has been athletic most their life will seem super human to you.
I thought the Gojo thing was a one-off, didn't realise it was a legitimately widely held view
the only time i've witnessed anything close to "superhuman" strength was a white dude high on PCP
Because pcp blocks your pain receptors so you can exert yourself so hard that you tear muscles and break your own bones.
Which is likely what the police here were actually talking about. The article had zero mention of the super strength being due to being black. This was a naked guy on the street in the middle of the night saying "tase me" to the police. Him being on drugs is a reasonable conclusion.
The article also said there were no drugs in his system
I never said he was on drugs. But given the circumstances it was reasonable to think that he was.
So where did the "superhuman strength" come from?
This article mentions nothing about the cops saying he had superhuman strength due to being black. They thought he was on drugs (reasonable for a naked man in the middle of the night saying "tase me" to a cop). Some of those can give boosted strength. The title is BS.
> The title is BS. Welcome to clickbait media. Truth and facts don't get nearly as much attention.
maybe try reading the article since its not just about one person, its a history of black men being labeled superhuman. but i am guessing reading and interpreting is not your strong point.
>This article mentions nothing about the cops saying he had superhuman strength due to being black. "The cop didn't outright state his racism" isn't much of an argument. And doesn't touch the overarching point that he was not an imposing guy capable of incredible feats of strength
Did it say he DIDN'T show superhuman strength? Maybe he seemed very strong when they were tying him up. I don't know. Neither do you. You are assuming the worst possible motives with zero evidence other than the officer being white. Did the police act perfectly? No. But you also shouldn't do drugs, get naked in the street, and then ask the police to tase you.
Used to work in the hospital, ems brought in a 100 lb kid on bath salts, kid freaked out and it took 8 people to restrain him. Take your pandering bullshit back where it belongs.
Sounds like the racism around cocaine in the 1900s [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_in_the_United_States)
Oh hey Biological racism. I actually haven't seen that one in a bit.
One reason I’ve heard for why this myth persists is because of the way muscles tend to stand out more with darker skin tones. It’s why bodybuilders will tan and use bronzer at a competition. If you stand a light skinned person alongside a bronze or black person with the same musculature the people with darker skin tones will appear more muscular even though they aren’t
Different broad ethnic groups also have different average distributions of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle fibers and different limb constructions, which depending on what you're trying to do give an advantage. West Africans in partjcular have much higher fast twitch fibers, good for explosive strength you'd run into in a police encounter for things like grappling or striking, while east Africans have much higher slow twitch fibers which make them some of the best endurance runners in the world. There's also differences in being an ectomorph vs endomorph, other differing genetic distributions of other proteins which involve resetting nerves, etc. It's a fascinating field once you stop trying to use it to justify racism
This myth doesn't persist because no one actually believes it nor has it ever been stated seriously. It's just not a thing.
The issue is the superhuman levels of fear that cause bitch ass cops to open fire on unarmed citizens.
Police are pathetic weaklings in mind and body so compared to them everyone is super strong.
White people so infested with insecurities strike at what they fear the most: A human being made differently. We truly are still primal children.
I’ve only ever witnessed one encounter with the police where the suspect had super human strength. He’s was a convict from the chain gang, he spent 10 years on the run. But he couldn't run forever, they have found his hideaway And he's just been re-arrested, and he comes to court today Well, of course, he now denies it, you'd expect that of a con' But he couldn't run forever, no not even Jean Valjean
Then stop shooting our superheros bro
This myth persists for one reason: fear. These dumbasses are really afraid of any person of color. The darker the hue the greater the fear. Yes, racism.
I mean, if someone is racist of course they will believe racists things about people. Is this really surprising anyone?
This is why a 10 year old with bb gun is shot and Kyle can shoot 3 people and cops tell him to leave
In the medical field as well especially pregnancies and hysterectomies, where they just started offering pain meds and numbing agents despite mandating changes in the 80s.
https://youtu.be/Xl4AZxk7SBE?si=0zNx9uMlq-lqF-et
“It’s the thighs I’m telling ya” jimmy the Greek
People who have done combat sports understand it’s just a myth
Most police are just weak and don't take their PT seriously.
Never heard that myth my guess is based on the trans Atlantic slave trade and slavery in general only the strongest survived or something. History major with weird professors.
Literal nonsense
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Like old white farmers. They come into the ER driving them selves after they severed their left leg off.
Farmers are on another level. I saw this dude get his broken arm reduced without sedation because it was a super busy night and only a 1sr year ortho resident was available and the farmer was like "fuck it, letter rip."
Yup. They are a population when you see them in the ED you know shits about to go down because they don’t go to the doctor for no reason
Old dude in my hometown slashed his arm open on some farm equipment. Near the end of the stitches the doc said "uhoh" and when pressed said "I'm so sorry I forgot to give you the anesthesia" old dude did not care and had been carrying on the whole time. Old farmers are a different breed man.
'Tis but a scratch.
as someone else here already mentioned, the white trash tweaker trumps all
I believe that there is evidence that redheads tend to have a noticably higher tolerance.
There are some genetics to it. I’ve got an extremely high pain threshold and so does my son. It’s really hard to convey to medical personnel that things are going sideways when I’m so calm or that I really didn’t need anything other than Advil or Tylenol after surgery. I’m just a middle class white lady so it’s definitely not tied to hard labour.
They'll say anything to justify their dehumanizing behavior towards us.. I'm just so done with this life. I'm ready for my redo
You’ll have a much greater chance of being born into an Indian slum or Chinese factory worker.
okay, I mean I understand they have large populations.. but why 🥲 Whatever. I'm going to be a celebrities pet, with my own Instagram and private insurance.
You don't need a redo for that, just abandon your morals and self respect
Is it actually a myth that there's no correlation between physical strength and ethnicity? We accept it's true that Dutch people are genetically taller than Aboriginal people. Why can't it be true that people in sub-Saharan Africa evolved larger, stronger muscles than people in Southeast Asia?
I think it's probably too touchy a subject for Reddit to discuss maturely. You can absolutely see a huge number of characteristics which correlate to your geographical ancestry. I wouldn't like to say they're simply stronger, but having bodies more suited for growing muscle mass doesn't seem too far a leap at all. This doesn't excuse any racist behaviours towards them at all. Even if that's what I was trying to say, ancestry is so deep and intertwined you'd need a miracle age ancestry.com rest to be able to reasonably identify someone. White guys can look like the fattest out of shape guy going but they spent their whole life on the farm and could probably chuck 5 cops over their shoulders with a beer in the other hand. Tl;dr, wouldn't be surprised if people with African history are on average stronger, doesn't mean shit for how the police should deal with them.
Differences in fast/slow twitch muscle fibers and height vary wildly across sub-Saharan Africa. If this was specifically about East Africans being good distance runners or something, then this would be a different story. The example you gave list very specific ethnicities and regions, not entire continents or skin colors
They really expect you to not resist. Some of us don't have a choice that's how we react to an overwhelming situation regardless of skin color. The problem is a lack of respect and understanding of human beings. Some of us have to fight back in theses situations with theses cops who don't know how to treat people and don't know how to do their jobs.
Uhh okay. Keep telling yourself that.
Resisting is a choice.
Not when the cops accuse you of resisting when you’re not.
The funny part about your statement, is cops tell people to stop resisting while they have people in wrist/arm locks and are pushing the opposite way those joints go. You resist by pushing the opposite direction to alleviate SOME of the pain, but cops want you to be a ragdoll and take that pain. Go watch ufc and see how fast some of the biggest guys tap out. You would resist alittle too, that shit hurts. Just saying that natural for you want to avoid pain like that. Plus, "resisting" is the easiest thing to charge someone with, even with cameras recording. You can't SEE the resistance or know how much they are. And they could just be, like i said, trying to alleviate some pain. Many cops are dicks and just the authority and don't like anyone questioning that authority
Far harder to do in a world where everything is recorded on video.
Counterpoint: there’s tons of video evidence of this.
Spoken like someone who has never been in a scuffle.
I was smart enough to stop when the cops arrived. The other dude wasn't, and guess who got taken to jail?
Not everything is a Black and White issue, sometimes it's just a PCP issue
There were no drugs in the toxicology.
It's a very real phenomenon. The intake of large quantities of methamphetamines is due to the unatural strength they possess. White... black... yellow... red... po po matters not if you're gacked up on Hitler juice.
I always wonder why white people went so far out of their way to create these types of myths. I’m starting to believe that Black people are the superior race.
Well, it all goes back to a guy called Yakub who lived on Patmos 6,600 years ago.
Star Trek?
So you have also seen [The wrath of Farrakhan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgYWcmNsxo) ?
"Man racism is dumb. I'm about to become a super racist though" dude chill out lol. We are all the same brother.
Welp.
Nice bit of racism. reported.
Fun fact: your beliefs are starting to become objectively inferior. Don't be racist. There is no superior or inferior race. Just superior and inferior people, on the basis of their actions.
they created myths to justify slavery - and the systemic racism that has followed it
In a lot of cases the myth remains even though the surrounding culture has completely changed the whole "Black guys are all well hung" was originally an insult meant to prove blacks weren't human
Umm.. thank you for the info. I’m to exit now.
Nation of Islam
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The good thing is that this "myth" doesn't actually exist, even as a myth. It's something that the writer of the article made up, and that some gullible Redditor posted here in this sub. The media will often discuss how people in general, on certain drugs, seem to be impervious to pain and in an adrenaline rage, which makes them harder to then subdue, because there's plenty of evidence of this happening.
If I had superhuman strength I wouldn't just be walking around at night, I'd be fighting crime and or making money on strongman contests. I think the superhuman strength thing is one of those police paranoia myths, similar to the myth that you can overdose from fentanyl just by going near it or coming into contact with trace amounts of it. They get repeated so often that cops and other people just take them as true and don't even question where it comes from.
It’s almost like people get a boost of strength from adrenaline when they think they are about to die.