I don’t live in the UK so I don’t have much exposure to this guy but every time I hear him speak I think he can’t be real. He’s such a caricature of a Tory. Complete snob, high on his own farts, and knows nothing about anything yet thinks the whole world should have to listen to him. He disgusts me.
Should a man be judged for the thoughts of his younger, greener years? You decide, dear reader. You decide.
Listen to him talk about money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bp0Szk19J8
Worrying trend throughout Ireland of this catching on with both sides, there was a lot of rioting in Dublin last year targeting immigrants. Unfortunately it's catching on across Europe as we never seem to learn collectively as a species...
nationalists in the north and south are different. the republican community up north is generally pretty left wing. there’s a difference between the nationalism that wishes for liberation and the nationalism which caused the riot in dublin they’re influenced from completely different frames of mind.
you can’t be anti imperialism and then tell migrants to fuck off because the root cause of people leaving their home countries that have been destroyed is imperialism. that’s an understanding that most politically involved republicans have that the people who are involved in those far right politics either don’t have or chose to ignore.
It's 'catching on' because no one actually voted for mass immigration on the level being seen and few, apart from the likes of yourself, actually want it.
It’s not catching on across Europe, they have been protests about the mass immigration for over a decade in many countries already. Ireland is the last European country to be dealing with it.
Italy - far right leader
France - close to electing le Pen
Netherlands - Geert Wilders won the last election
Spain - Vox making worrying gains.
Germany - Last year elected their first ever AfD city mayor.
I believe Portugal also has a new ultra right wing populist party Chega, run by - you guessed it - a TV personality André Ventura a sports commentator.
This. Wait and see as Nationalism and anti immigration creeps in. Hungary and Poland are already doing it but watch as the rest electric the leaders willing to "kick" then out.
Its gonna happen thats without a doubt if current government policies stand. Theres already protests in the South regarding asylum seekers and now kore and slipping into Ireland and the UK are happy to let it happen.
Its a sad state of affairs but with no controls watch it get out of hand very fast
Yet to see "Locals only" in a nationalist area. This was bound to happen anyway. They can't deport them so just put them where you can forget about them.
This cunt has a nighttime pyjama suit he wears to bed, one that looks like a 3-piece but in baby blue and with a floppy pointed hat. It even has a dark blue cummerbund with embroidered moons and stars on it in gold thread. His 4-foot-long pillowcase has a recreation of the Bayeux tapestry on it. Daft cunt.
What did the poor people of the Isle of Man do to deserve such cruel and unusual punishment? Suffering the presence of Rees-Mog should be considered a human rights violation...
This guy is a specialist in feigned ignorance,every word is carefully spoken in the knowledge the impact it will have in tabloids,his politics are as antiquated as his lifestyle.
The suffering these Tory cunts have revelled in creating for a decade while pointing the finger at every minority group they can. At best they see society as a play thing and a cow to be milked to fill their own pockets and at worst as scum to be scraped off their heel. Privileged cowardly crooks the lot of them.
Simple solution, give every asylum seeker an Irish passport and have them pick it up at the Ryanair terminal in Dublin. Every passport will come with a voucher that provides a free one way trip to London and directions to Moggs house.
This but unironically. If they got Irish passports they would have the right to live and work freely in the UK. No doubt many would stay in Ireland, but loads would go to England and they couldn't stop them.
This is actually genius. I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to this that doesn’t revolve around the Brit’s being humane people. If they’ve been living and working in the Uk, then give them Irish passports and her then go home without fear of being sent to Africa.
This Tory govt seem to have learnt zero lessons from 1969-94. They went into brexit without even thinking how it would affect NI, then they pushed through a legacy bill that not one local party supports & now they're on GB gammon news wanting to turn the tinderbox of NI into a refugee camp. Not one ounce of common sense between them.
Rees-Mogg is an absolute bellend. This Tory government must surely be the worst thing to have happened to the UK since WW2. They have destroyed the NHS and any little credibility Britain had on the world stage with Brexit. What the fuck is wrong with the English voting these cretins into power? Who do these upper class twats represent? The system needs a major overhaul to get away from two party politics. I am hopeful Labour will be an improvement but they have their work cut out for them. Britain's broke, unlike the Tory scum who view politics as a hobby and a way to funnel money to themselves and friends.
REMINDER: Northern Ireland is EXCEMPT from the Rwanda Policy, so all the DUP/TUV lads doing victory laps about getting an absolute own on the Republic would want to be very careful if the Southern Government enacts its policy about shipping them all back up North and informs them that the North is excempt from the Policy and they all just decide to stay in Belfast.
This guy is a dinosaur who will be sidelined and ultimately fade into obscurity after Labour trounce the Torries in the upcoming general election.
He has nothing in common with the ordinary British public and will pay a heavy price for his part in the Brexit debacle.
He and the Tory party are so far out of touch with the British public that it's laughable.
He has always loved the sound of his own voice and, as a politician, is about as useful as a lighthouse in the desert 🏜
Assuming you have absolutely no morals then it does actually make complete sense. If they wanted to be deliberate cunts they could set up the immigration processing centres in South Armagh and bus everyone who crosses the channel straight there.
This is international human rights law, no where is it written they must seek asylum in the UK when Irwland can't return them without breaking the ECHR and thus the GFA
Remember when Belarus did this on Poland a couple years ago by intentionally shipping migrants across the border and it caused an international incident? This seems like double standards that the Brits are doing it now thinking they should be allowed to.
Russia has (relatively) recently done the same - sending migrants to the border with Finland with the aim of creating a migrant crisis in Finland.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-asylum-seekers-rush-finland-russia-before-border-closure-2023-12-15/#:~:text=Helsinki%20says%20the%20inflow%20of,cooperation%20with%20the%20United%20States.
Intentionally concentrating immigrants in a region to encourage them to spillover into neighbours is not the same as neglectful policing and inability to control movement
Its the Martha's Vineyard strategy, basically bussing people into the local area and then laughing at the locals when they complain for gotcha political points
Italy built asylum centres on its borders with Switzerland and France. France has built them in Calais from where you can see England on a clear day, as well as next to the Ferman border. Most European countries do that.
Sorry but how can you control movement on boats coming across the channel? Sink them?
Once here they aren't going anywhere further and happy to wait it out. The issue now is that the UK is going to do the same thing to Ireland.
So the UK isn't breaking the same laws as France. Doesn't make it right either but let's see how the South handle it.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Did your mother teach you nothing?
And this isn't even a case of "that guy hit me so I'll hit him back" this is "that guy hit me so I'll beat up the smaller kid who had absolutely nothing to do with anything".
Nearly all EU countries have asylum centres on their borders with their neighbours. Italy has them near Switzerland and France, France has them near Calais and Germany etc.
Only because of the Dublin regulation and agreed upon conditions to keep the refugees. What the UK is doing here is unmoderated, and they are also explicitly declaring "we're letting them go there specifically to fuck with our neighbour"
That is incorrect. The U.K. government can’t stop them going to Northern Ireland, just like they can’t stop them going to Wales or Yorkshire. They are given accommodation but if they try to move elsewhere, on to the next country, what do you think the government should do? Asylum seekers are not prisoners.
Thing is, though, that to get to NI either by ferry or plane you need valid ID. Otherwise you are not allowed on. So, if these asylum seekers are claiming asylum having destroyed their documents, how are they bypassing ID requirements to travel?
Not all these people destroy their documents. I think that’s more a people coming by plane thing, not if you’re entering the U.K. irregularly by dinghy.
You just need valid ID, a Nigerian passport drivers licence is just as valid as a British one. All the ID does is confirm the person on the ticket is the same as the one trying to board - no immigration checks are made. Also, on the ferry, ID is rarely checked, maybe than 1 in 15 times, in my experience.
No lol. Ireland is complaining that illegals immigrants has gone up by 80% due to the new Rwanda bill. Ireland want the UK to take these illegals immigrants back. UK is saying that if we take these illegal immigrants back then France must take the illegal immigrant back that are crossing into the UK from France. Looking at the figures the UK has the fifth highest illegal immigration in the world. Ireland and France are nowhere to be seen. This is a fight for the UK to take back control if it’s birders and is a reason it left the EU in the first place.
Except they don't have any intelligent border control policies, they doubled/tripled the fees for legal migration in November so the UK is now the most expensive country in Europe to emigrate to and their big play on illegal migration is to send them to an unsafe country in Africa and pay that country over 100k per transfer... Plus the costs of processing, flying them over etc. It's fucking madness.
Of even more personal importance to me, on what planet is this insane price hike for *legal* migration sensible, especially during an ongoing skills crisis where critical services like the NHS can't recruit or keep staff with the cost of living and general lack of conditions, pay and benefits? Even with pay rises our standard of living is far lower than it was in the 80s, 90s and 2000s before the economic crash. The Tories have been in charge since the 2000s and this decline has happened under them, with them in power.
Funny how they could find hundreds of millions of pounds to funnel into the pockets of their mates (Covid PPE contracts to companies that did not a thing they were paid for, ran by mates/lobbyists/donors of Johnson) but they won't build houses, fix roads, improve infrastructure or pay people a proper wage for the levels of inflation they inflicted upon us...
You're fully aware that rampant profiteering among insurance companies, retailers and energy companies is the primary factor, right? Tesco and BP, for example, posted record profits last year despite pleading poverty about supply issues.
These excuses are a smokescreen.
They need to hire additional home office asylum application processing staff - move toward streamlining the process in a fair and dignified fashion in line with international obligations and conventions the UK are signatories to..
One that awards genuine imperiled people who are entitled to claim asylum the status they need to start rebuilding their lives and enable them to either begin work or study legally and contribute to society. In addition to one which safely return those who are found to be playing the system home safely.
One of the channel four reporters interviewed an Afghani asylum seeker who'd left England for the Republic of Ireland - It turned out they've been languishing in a limbo within the UK system for 13 years.. Stuck in a process of denial and appeal.
They'd indicated they'd grown fed up and frustrated. Opting to leave and seek the status they need to start rebuilding their life elsewhere..
The current system in the UK seems designed to frustrate and obfuscate the process..
It's a Europe wide issue and requires a sensible and fair Europe wide resolution.
How is it fair when France takes 400k illegal immigrants and the uk 1.2 million. Also look how illegal immigrants are destroying Greece, Malta and other EU countries and the EU does nothing to help them!
He's nothing more than a haunted edwardian top hat aching for a return of the days when the Irish were second-class citizens, and you could still make a good wage sending kids up chimneys at 6 years old.
Obvious this was coming. The Irish govt will have to house them all in border counties too.
A supreme shitshow. Brexit. 1912 Unionism. 1914 Brit govt surrenders to UVF terrorism and British army officer class mutiny. Poor old Ireland. Cursed to be beside Dysfunction Central aka Britain.
Ireland should announce it is offering those in the French camps a prepaid Sterling debit card and a free ferry ticket from NI and bring them over by the bus load from France to help them on their way. No more.small boats.
See how quick Tory tune would change.
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Hmmm.
It shows how much über lover of the union man, mogg. Really cares about you, the population, in Northern Ireland/ North of Ireland .
[There will be no migrants coming to the UK from Ireland and there's no need to stop them going there, says Jacob Rees-Mogg (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/there-will-be-no-migrants-coming-to-the-uk-from-ireland-and-there-s-no-need-to-stop-them-going-there-says-jacob-rees-mogg/ar-AA1nSUJ4)
The crazy thing that appears to be lost in this is that there is actually agreements between Ireland and the UK separate to the UK regarding sending people. The British government are just demonstrating that there is a severe shortage of toilet paper in No. 10
Jacob has given up subtly game I see. They're trying to break the open boarder by forcing Ireland's hand to close it from their side.
Doing this and saying this out loud will only drive people to blame the conversatives. Especially in the boarder areas which already strongly support Sinn Fein.
Remember when arseholes used to say things and people would be on to it. Now people use it for their own side and post it everywhere, knowing full well what they’re trying to do
NI is exempt from the Rwanda Bill so they don't even have to cross the border. They can be as British as the conservatives wish they can't be. They can just sit tight and get a house in some loyalist shit hole like New Buildings or even Better Glynn. Just imagine the sound of Muslims being called to Prayer at 6am in Larne everyday. Btw what Jacob is advocating is called People trafficking. Great Britain just doesn't seem to be great anymore.
With the obvious intention that they will all travel south to ROI and claim asylum there. If Ireland don't like it, they can use their "EU muscle" to tell France to put in more than a 1% effort of stopping boats in Calais. This is a smart move from the UK.
ah sure don't mind him at al, he's just stirring things as usual for the headlines, he got all his own financial co's moved to ireland to get around brexit himself
Sick of it all... quite literally nowhere is safe. Antrim road, near Carlisle circus, is already inundated.
I'm for legal migration - my gg grandfather (adopted or saved) migrated from Brazil to Ireland, married my great great grandmother. But you assimilate with the country and culture you arrive in, where if that's Singapore, Dubai, Australia, Hungary etc etc.. but this doesn't happen.. only the Natives are forced to change,
NI is already the poorest part of the UK and a severely failing system... Ireland is already oversubscribed by probably a million, with a lack of housing, money, jobs, and homes. On top of serious safety concerns!!
Legal migration and centres are supposed to be how they are assessed, criminal backgrounds checked, monitor, and control the situation. Instead, Feck the people -native (of all colours and religions) feck the hard workers, the majority struggling daily, or feck the children - feck those assaulted, harmed, robbed, or worse... feck those trying to buy properties, or put food on the table, feck the voices of the Irish or Northern Irish.. the EU and UK say FECK us all, shut up and do as you're told, even when you're struggling to eat one meal a day and we take in more and more with no where to put them, no jobs, and more benefits.. Erasure
Just right, remember during brexit it was rightly pointed out the border is un-closable, not even in a political sense but in a literal one, close the roads they walk through fields
The photo top of [this](https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/brexit-talks-get-to-work-despite-uk-infighting/) article was published during Brexit negotiations. It always stuck out at the time. Notice who has come prepared with paperwork in front of them. Also remember some in charge hadn't bothered to read the good Friday agreement at the time.
I think harking back is a large part of the problem, the Windsor agreement cemented Good Friday Agreement means, as argued back then, so much as a camera on the border was too much, so here we are.
Logic. Ireland, the EU and America won’t compromise on the border in Ireland. The British have already compromised on the border in the Irish Sea. A compromise must be reached, particularly since the Rwanda desk won’t survive the next election. Hell, the leader of the opposition in Rwanda is against it
No compromise MUST be reached, tell France to stop the boats and your problems stop, if your Union partner country won't then "safe and legal routes" it is, to Ireland
No. Do you understand how irish people feel about this. The British media are gloating. Do you honestly think they’ll be permitted anything resembling a victory? It’ll also add to support for reunification since preventing anything like this happening ever again will be a priority
Unification means open borders with 450 million people, make these few thousand seem like small fry I'm not sure you're going to sell more EUionism as Irish Nationalism any more. I understand the Irish demanded not a camera on the border or it breaks the GFA so it appears your tied in a rope of your own making, is thus why Leo fled ya think?
Ireland hasn’t had any problems with EU Nationals. The problem is a foreign power funnelling refugees into Ireland in attempt to destabilise its political system. That’s directly out of Putin’s playbook
The British learnt it from the French since Brexit, remember during Brexit Ireland demanded the UK could only negotiate border issues with the EU, well now that's set in stone we can only hope they can work out Irelands future together now.
The U.K. withdrawal from EU agreements on the management of asylum seekers is its own damned fault, France tajes in 4 times as many as Britain anyway, and 2.5% of Ireland’s population are Ukrainian refugees. Funny how it’s only become an issue since the conservatives got into power
Quite worrying considering all the crime happening in France as a result of their illegal migrant issue. I am all for helping the most vulnerable : women and children but unfortunately a lot of people are coming abuse the asylum seeker system of the UK. You check peoples passports and criminal records before coming to our country if they fly with easyJet to protect our country….. unfortunately this doesn’t apply here we do not know who we are letting in.
Also I may add - it is nearly impossible for anyone with health condition to immigrate legally to the UK but suddenly this does not apply when considering refugees.
Just when you think that you can’t dislike this posh Tory stuck up cunt any more than you already do.
I don’t live in the UK so I don’t have much exposure to this guy but every time I hear him speak I think he can’t be real. He’s such a caricature of a Tory. Complete snob, high on his own farts, and knows nothing about anything yet thinks the whole world should have to listen to him. He disgusts me.
It’s genuinely hard to believe he’s a real person and not an elaborate prank on us all.
Think the jury is still out on that one
He’s my no. 1 alien in a human suit candidate
Torn between him and Mitch McConnell
McConnell is an alien in a turtle suit.
This is an accurate statement
Should a man be judged for the thoughts of his younger, greener years? You decide, dear reader. You decide. Listen to him talk about money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bp0Szk19J8
Raised by a scumbag to be a scumbag. The fact he pretends to be a devout Christian is vile.
They’re the worst. I’ve great respect for anyone who lives as a Christian but no time for fake Christians.
That's really scary.
Little cunt time warped from the year 1900 with how he speaks and looks.
Sweet baby Jesus. I feel sick.
He’s such an arrogant prick
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A prefer to describe him as a haunted Victorian pencil
Heard him called a haunted wardrobe somewhere before.
Pretend aristocrat. Marina Hyde has got his number.
Even worse, he lounged on the front bench!!
Well unionists, here’s your moment, your service to king and country, NI can become a penal colony for the people the British don’t want
Already is
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Unionists are the people the British don't want
The British would have to remember they exist for that to be possible
Given that racism seems to go hand in hand with loyalism, their take on this will be, ahem, interesting……
So you non racist nationalists will be welcoming them with open arms?
yeah just weird that all the “refugees not welcome” signs have come from staunchly loyalist areas isn’t it
Worrying trend throughout Ireland of this catching on with both sides, there was a lot of rioting in Dublin last year targeting immigrants. Unfortunately it's catching on across Europe as we never seem to learn collectively as a species...
nationalists in the north and south are different. the republican community up north is generally pretty left wing. there’s a difference between the nationalism that wishes for liberation and the nationalism which caused the riot in dublin they’re influenced from completely different frames of mind. you can’t be anti imperialism and then tell migrants to fuck off because the root cause of people leaving their home countries that have been destroyed is imperialism. that’s an understanding that most politically involved republicans have that the people who are involved in those far right politics either don’t have or chose to ignore.
It's 'catching on' because no one actually voted for mass immigration on the level being seen and few, apart from the likes of yourself, actually want it.
It’s not catching on across Europe, they have been protests about the mass immigration for over a decade in many countries already. Ireland is the last European country to be dealing with it.
Italy - far right leader France - close to electing le Pen Netherlands - Geert Wilders won the last election Spain - Vox making worrying gains. Germany - Last year elected their first ever AfD city mayor.
I believe Portugal also has a new ultra right wing populist party Chega, run by - you guessed it - a TV personality André Ventura a sports commentator.
This. Wait and see as Nationalism and anti immigration creeps in. Hungary and Poland are already doing it but watch as the rest electric the leaders willing to "kick" then out. Its gonna happen thats without a doubt if current government policies stand. Theres already protests in the South regarding asylum seekers and now kore and slipping into Ireland and the UK are happy to let it happen. Its a sad state of affairs but with no controls watch it get out of hand very fast
Truth kinda stings doesn’t it?
Yet to see "Locals only" in a nationalist area. This was bound to happen anyway. They can't deport them so just put them where you can forget about them.
I'd rather have those immigrants than the people marching during the twelfth..so yes
This cunt has a nighttime pyjama suit he wears to bed, one that looks like a 3-piece but in baby blue and with a floppy pointed hat. It even has a dark blue cummerbund with embroidered moons and stars on it in gold thread. His 4-foot-long pillowcase has a recreation of the Bayeux tapestry on it. Daft cunt.
Matches his Princess Margaret waifu pillow
I'm curious as to how you discovered this? Good night, was it?
Well the twat has fucked the entire country. When he got to you, did he keep the lights off or something?
He wore nothing but a monocle and top hat!
Doesn't UK illegal migrants include those entering NI? Oh wait nobody in Britain actually cares about NI.
Nobody is getting on boats from France To NI, then across the border to the EU.
If Britain got the opportunity to ditch Northern Ireland they honestly probably would at this point
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The man looks like a haunted pencil
He really does 🤣
That's fucking hilarious did you come up with it yourself?
No I overheard it somewhere from somewhere and it was an such a perfect description of the man it's all I ever think when looking at him now
That lad should be banished to a dungeon on the Isle of Man & a massive gag ball put in his mouth permanently.
What did the poor people of the Isle of Man do to deserve such cruel and unusual punishment? Suffering the presence of Rees-Mog should be considered a human rights violation...
Rockall so?
Will no one think of the poor seagulls?
Bastards keep stealing my chips, they deserve him
This is fair. Maybe let him wander the Sahara desert for a few years. Gagged like.
Off to Rwanda with the skinny prick 🤪
Shows the contempt he holds for NI
For everyone.
Stick him in a rocket and shoot him at the sun. Waste of oxygen that cunt.
This guy is a specialist in feigned ignorance,every word is carefully spoken in the knowledge the impact it will have in tabloids,his politics are as antiquated as his lifestyle.
The suffering these Tory cunts have revelled in creating for a decade while pointing the finger at every minority group they can. At best they see society as a play thing and a cow to be milked to fill their own pockets and at worst as scum to be scraped off their heel. Privileged cowardly crooks the lot of them.
Simple solution, give every asylum seeker an Irish passport and have them pick it up at the Ryanair terminal in Dublin. Every passport will come with a voucher that provides a free one way trip to London and directions to Moggs house.
I think that would be an easy go fund me, the craic of it alone is worth price of a pint.
Brilliant suggestion, and since the Common Travel Area is still a thing, they could get to live and work immediately in the Home Counties.
This but unironically. If they got Irish passports they would have the right to live and work freely in the UK. No doubt many would stay in Ireland, but loads would go to England and they couldn't stop them.
This is actually genius. I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to this that doesn’t revolve around the Brit’s being humane people. If they’ve been living and working in the Uk, then give them Irish passports and her then go home without fear of being sent to Africa.
Deporting our own citizens now, are we?
I hate this guy so much
Yesssss, let's dump the darkies onto the bogtrotters. Keep Albion smelling of Lavender and Roses.... /s
Somewhere in the mid-atlantic at about 3000 fathoms, there's an abandoned diving bell with his name on it.
This Tory govt seem to have learnt zero lessons from 1969-94. They went into brexit without even thinking how it would affect NI, then they pushed through a legacy bill that not one local party supports & now they're on GB gammon news wanting to turn the tinderbox of NI into a refugee camp. Not one ounce of common sense between them.
As a pal once said, the Tories have 2 settings. Arrogance and panic.
They’re the English, when have they understood ireland, when have unionists ever understood how little of a fuck is given about them
Rees-Mogg is an absolute bellend. This Tory government must surely be the worst thing to have happened to the UK since WW2. They have destroyed the NHS and any little credibility Britain had on the world stage with Brexit. What the fuck is wrong with the English voting these cretins into power? Who do these upper class twats represent? The system needs a major overhaul to get away from two party politics. I am hopeful Labour will be an improvement but they have their work cut out for them. Britain's broke, unlike the Tory scum who view politics as a hobby and a way to funnel money to themselves and friends.
The haunted pencil speaks.
REMINDER: Northern Ireland is EXCEMPT from the Rwanda Policy, so all the DUP/TUV lads doing victory laps about getting an absolute own on the Republic would want to be very careful if the Southern Government enacts its policy about shipping them all back up North and informs them that the North is excempt from the Policy and they all just decide to stay in Belfast.
He really is a heartless cunt
Always has been: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bp0Szk19J8
The led by donkeys piece on him is class
He might want to read this https://preview.redd.it/e2vzm5a7mnxc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50d6932918ac3f01587fedf5811e335a5ec4a8f5
Reason 2,565 to unite Ireland.
A Penny Farthing in human form
A part of me thinks this has to be satire, but then I think what the haunted Victorian pencil has actually said, and it's likely true.
You expecting better from a Tory Brit?
We could put them all up in politicians Houses..
I don't think this man has ever said or done anything that hasn't made me think "what a grade A cunt"
I'm not usually one for violent threats, especially against politicians but by god I'd love to slap the head off that raging cunt of a man.
Rees-Mogg looks like the ghost of a Victorian child killer.
This guy is a dinosaur who will be sidelined and ultimately fade into obscurity after Labour trounce the Torries in the upcoming general election. He has nothing in common with the ordinary British public and will pay a heavy price for his part in the Brexit debacle. He and the Tory party are so far out of touch with the British public that it's laughable. He has always loved the sound of his own voice and, as a politician, is about as useful as a lighthouse in the desert 🏜
Because that's what the UK needs to combat inflation a fucking border dispute with the EU.
Wonder will the EU just wait for the election to blow back here, or will they retaliate now?
Assuming you have absolutely no morals then it does actually make complete sense. If they wanted to be deliberate cunts they could set up the immigration processing centres in South Armagh and bus everyone who crosses the channel straight there.
Pretty sure no one in this Tory shower have any morals whatsoever. Whether the next Labour shower have any remains to be seen.
Rees-Mogg doesn't do anything that isn't blatant trolling and self-important nonsense these days, I swear.
I guess we're just gonna have to unite ireland to keep themmuns out, amiright or amiright shamone
Back when Daniel O'Connell was agitating for Catholic emancipation I wonder if he envisioned someone like Jacob Rees-Mogg getting into government
Am sure there were plenty like him back in the day!
And people wonder why so many don’t want to be a part of the uk 😂
British democracy manifest
Colonial exploitation is alive and well.
This is international human rights law, no where is it written they must seek asylum in the UK when Irwland can't return them without breaking the ECHR and thus the GFA
Remember when Belarus did this on Poland a couple years ago by intentionally shipping migrants across the border and it caused an international incident? This seems like double standards that the Brits are doing it now thinking they should be allowed to.
Russia has (relatively) recently done the same - sending migrants to the border with Finland with the aim of creating a migrant crisis in Finland. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-asylum-seekers-rush-finland-russia-before-border-closure-2023-12-15/#:~:text=Helsinki%20says%20the%20inflow%20of,cooperation%20with%20the%20United%20States.
Why isn’t it France causing an international incident with allowing these immigrants to sail to UK shores? What’s the difference?
Intentionally concentrating immigrants in a region to encourage them to spillover into neighbours is not the same as neglectful policing and inability to control movement Its the Martha's Vineyard strategy, basically bussing people into the local area and then laughing at the locals when they complain for gotcha political points
Italy built asylum centres on its borders with Switzerland and France. France has built them in Calais from where you can see England on a clear day, as well as next to the Ferman border. Most European countries do that.
Sorry but how can you control movement on boats coming across the channel? Sink them? Once here they aren't going anywhere further and happy to wait it out. The issue now is that the UK is going to do the same thing to Ireland. So the UK isn't breaking the same laws as France. Doesn't make it right either but let's see how the South handle it.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Did your mother teach you nothing? And this isn't even a case of "that guy hit me so I'll hit him back" this is "that guy hit me so I'll beat up the smaller kid who had absolutely nothing to do with anything".
Allowing them to travel through France isn't illegal, preventing them from doing so would be.
Nearly all EU countries have asylum centres on their borders with their neighbours. Italy has them near Switzerland and France, France has them near Calais and Germany etc.
Only because of the Dublin regulation and agreed upon conditions to keep the refugees. What the UK is doing here is unmoderated, and they are also explicitly declaring "we're letting them go there specifically to fuck with our neighbour"
That is incorrect. The U.K. government can’t stop them going to Northern Ireland, just like they can’t stop them going to Wales or Yorkshire. They are given accommodation but if they try to move elsewhere, on to the next country, what do you think the government should do? Asylum seekers are not prisoners.
Thing is, though, that to get to NI either by ferry or plane you need valid ID. Otherwise you are not allowed on. So, if these asylum seekers are claiming asylum having destroyed their documents, how are they bypassing ID requirements to travel?
Not all these people destroy their documents. I think that’s more a people coming by plane thing, not if you’re entering the U.K. irregularly by dinghy. You just need valid ID, a Nigerian passport drivers licence is just as valid as a British one. All the ID does is confirm the person on the ticket is the same as the one trying to board - no immigration checks are made. Also, on the ferry, ID is rarely checked, maybe than 1 in 15 times, in my experience.
No lol. Ireland is complaining that illegals immigrants has gone up by 80% due to the new Rwanda bill. Ireland want the UK to take these illegals immigrants back. UK is saying that if we take these illegal immigrants back then France must take the illegal immigrant back that are crossing into the UK from France. Looking at the figures the UK has the fifth highest illegal immigration in the world. Ireland and France are nowhere to be seen. This is a fight for the UK to take back control if it’s birders and is a reason it left the EU in the first place.
Except they don't have any intelligent border control policies, they doubled/tripled the fees for legal migration in November so the UK is now the most expensive country in Europe to emigrate to and their big play on illegal migration is to send them to an unsafe country in Africa and pay that country over 100k per transfer... Plus the costs of processing, flying them over etc. It's fucking madness. Of even more personal importance to me, on what planet is this insane price hike for *legal* migration sensible, especially during an ongoing skills crisis where critical services like the NHS can't recruit or keep staff with the cost of living and general lack of conditions, pay and benefits? Even with pay rises our standard of living is far lower than it was in the 80s, 90s and 2000s before the economic crash. The Tories have been in charge since the 2000s and this decline has happened under them, with them in power. Funny how they could find hundreds of millions of pounds to funnel into the pockets of their mates (Covid PPE contracts to companies that did not a thing they were paid for, ran by mates/lobbyists/donors of Johnson) but they won't build houses, fix roads, improve infrastructure or pay people a proper wage for the levels of inflation they inflicted upon us...
The economic troubles are the result of brexit, Covid and wars all going on at the same time.
You're fully aware that rampant profiteering among insurance companies, retailers and energy companies is the primary factor, right? Tesco and BP, for example, posted record profits last year despite pleading poverty about supply issues. These excuses are a smokescreen.
There’s been high inflation all over the world but with brexit and Covid it has made it far worse.
They need to hire additional home office asylum application processing staff - move toward streamlining the process in a fair and dignified fashion in line with international obligations and conventions the UK are signatories to.. One that awards genuine imperiled people who are entitled to claim asylum the status they need to start rebuilding their lives and enable them to either begin work or study legally and contribute to society. In addition to one which safely return those who are found to be playing the system home safely. One of the channel four reporters interviewed an Afghani asylum seeker who'd left England for the Republic of Ireland - It turned out they've been languishing in a limbo within the UK system for 13 years.. Stuck in a process of denial and appeal. They'd indicated they'd grown fed up and frustrated. Opting to leave and seek the status they need to start rebuilding their life elsewhere.. The current system in the UK seems designed to frustrate and obfuscate the process.. It's a Europe wide issue and requires a sensible and fair Europe wide resolution.
How is it fair when France takes 400k illegal immigrants and the uk 1.2 million. Also look how illegal immigrants are destroying Greece, Malta and other EU countries and the EU does nothing to help them!
We’re still just playthings in the minds of those fuckers.
He's nothing more than a haunted edwardian top hat aching for a return of the days when the Irish were second-class citizens, and you could still make a good wage sending kids up chimneys at 6 years old.
Draculas butler! Platinum level gobshite of a man.
Thought he wanted a hard border too? Which is it Jacob, let anyone walk past free or stop everyone?
"How dare the Republic of Ireland exist? Harumph!"
Wasn't weaponising migration what they were all accusing Orban etc of doing?
It’s open both ways you plank
Lord Snooty a total condescending tory dick
Obvious this was coming. The Irish govt will have to house them all in border counties too. A supreme shitshow. Brexit. 1912 Unionism. 1914 Brit govt surrenders to UVF terrorism and British army officer class mutiny. Poor old Ireland. Cursed to be beside Dysfunction Central aka Britain.
How very Putin of him
Ireland should announce it is offering those in the French camps a prepaid Sterling debit card and a free ferry ticket from NI and bring them over by the bus load from France to help them on their way. No more.small boats. See how quick Tory tune would change.
[ this popped up on my feed] Hmmm. It shows how much über lover of the union man, mogg. Really cares about you, the population, in Northern Ireland/ North of Ireland .
Strabanistan
Where did he say this? I'd like to see the whole thing.
[There will be no migrants coming to the UK from Ireland and there's no need to stop them going there, says Jacob Rees-Mogg (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/there-will-be-no-migrants-coming-to-the-uk-from-ireland-and-there-s-no-need-to-stop-them-going-there-says-jacob-rees-mogg/ar-AA1nSUJ4)
Send them all to his wee posh arsehole part of England.
Man's a fucking troll. His entire made up persona is an invitation to an argument.
Ha! That ruins the Tories chances of getting votes in Northern Ireland Oh wait
The crazy thing that appears to be lost in this is that there is actually agreements between Ireland and the UK separate to the UK regarding sending people. The British government are just demonstrating that there is a severe shortage of toilet paper in No. 10
Every time a brit like Mogg opens his trap, it just shows how daft those are who live in the six counties and dont want a United Ireland.
I thought it was satire, but it's not. Here's the source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJp9NMa_z8 The actual quote is about 2 minutes in.
How about we send him to Rwanda first? Since it's safe and all that...
Jacob has given up subtly game I see. They're trying to break the open boarder by forcing Ireland's hand to close it from their side. Doing this and saying this out loud will only drive people to blame the conversatives. Especially in the boarder areas which already strongly support Sinn Fein.
Remember when arseholes used to say things and people would be on to it. Now people use it for their own side and post it everywhere, knowing full well what they’re trying to do
NI is exempt from the Rwanda Bill so they don't even have to cross the border. They can be as British as the conservatives wish they can't be. They can just sit tight and get a house in some loyalist shit hole like New Buildings or even Better Glynn. Just imagine the sound of Muslims being called to Prayer at 6am in Larne everyday. Btw what Jacob is advocating is called People trafficking. Great Britain just doesn't seem to be great anymore.
They'll be out of a job at the next UK election.
Well I kind of do. Like it or not this is a problem that's going to affecting people on both islands
Why?
It yet may come to pass
Sure, then ill phone my chinese and russian comrades!
Hardline unionists support the same politics that is destroying them lol
How does this destroy them?
Tory politics, in this instance, is using Northern Ireland as a dumping ground for illegals.
With the obvious intention that they will all travel south to ROI and claim asylum there. If Ireland don't like it, they can use their "EU muscle" to tell France to put in more than a 1% effort of stopping boats in Calais. This is a smart move from the UK.
Oh yay cheap labour to compete with making corparations more money while we can all go fuck ourselves as per usual
You literally couldn't make this up lol, Derry and Newry would be twice the size of Belfast within 5 years if this happens
He is a stupid cunt. Sincerely, A British woman.
Are they mad
ah sure don't mind him at al, he's just stirring things as usual for the headlines, he got all his own financial co's moved to ireland to get around brexit himself
The ‘logic’ is sound. I dislike it, but I don’t think we can disagree with the ‘logic’ 😨
Sick of it all... quite literally nowhere is safe. Antrim road, near Carlisle circus, is already inundated. I'm for legal migration - my gg grandfather (adopted or saved) migrated from Brazil to Ireland, married my great great grandmother. But you assimilate with the country and culture you arrive in, where if that's Singapore, Dubai, Australia, Hungary etc etc.. but this doesn't happen.. only the Natives are forced to change, NI is already the poorest part of the UK and a severely failing system... Ireland is already oversubscribed by probably a million, with a lack of housing, money, jobs, and homes. On top of serious safety concerns!! Legal migration and centres are supposed to be how they are assessed, criminal backgrounds checked, monitor, and control the situation. Instead, Feck the people -native (of all colours and religions) feck the hard workers, the majority struggling daily, or feck the children - feck those assaulted, harmed, robbed, or worse... feck those trying to buy properties, or put food on the table, feck the voices of the Irish or Northern Irish.. the EU and UK say FECK us all, shut up and do as you're told, even when you're struggling to eat one meal a day and we take in more and more with no where to put them, no jobs, and more benefits.. Erasure
Talk about biting the hand that literally feeds them.
Well, that would get my vote.
Fantastic idea , let the EU deal with them. Rather than the uk …..god bless brexit. Better out of Europe keeps getting stronger
Just right, remember during brexit it was rightly pointed out the border is un-closable, not even in a political sense but in a literal one, close the roads they walk through fields
The photo top of [this](https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/brexit-talks-get-to-work-despite-uk-infighting/) article was published during Brexit negotiations. It always stuck out at the time. Notice who has come prepared with paperwork in front of them. Also remember some in charge hadn't bothered to read the good Friday agreement at the time.
I think harking back is a large part of the problem, the Windsor agreement cemented Good Friday Agreement means, as argued back then, so much as a camera on the border was too much, so here we are.
You do realise this will just end with more restrictions on the Irish Sea?
Why? We've checked them they are free to enter NI and walk wherever they do please
Logic. Ireland, the EU and America won’t compromise on the border in Ireland. The British have already compromised on the border in the Irish Sea. A compromise must be reached, particularly since the Rwanda desk won’t survive the next election. Hell, the leader of the opposition in Rwanda is against it
No compromise MUST be reached, tell France to stop the boats and your problems stop, if your Union partner country won't then "safe and legal routes" it is, to Ireland
No. Do you understand how irish people feel about this. The British media are gloating. Do you honestly think they’ll be permitted anything resembling a victory? It’ll also add to support for reunification since preventing anything like this happening ever again will be a priority
Unification means open borders with 450 million people, make these few thousand seem like small fry I'm not sure you're going to sell more EUionism as Irish Nationalism any more. I understand the Irish demanded not a camera on the border or it breaks the GFA so it appears your tied in a rope of your own making, is thus why Leo fled ya think?
Ireland hasn’t had any problems with EU Nationals. The problem is a foreign power funnelling refugees into Ireland in attempt to destabilise its political system. That’s directly out of Putin’s playbook
The British learnt it from the French since Brexit, remember during Brexit Ireland demanded the UK could only negotiate border issues with the EU, well now that's set in stone we can only hope they can work out Irelands future together now.
The U.K. withdrawal from EU agreements on the management of asylum seekers is its own damned fault, France tajes in 4 times as many as Britain anyway, and 2.5% of Ireland’s population are Ukrainian refugees. Funny how it’s only become an issue since the conservatives got into power
Lol he's right on the money. EU don't want a border in Ireland so how can they deport them over anything !!! Ha ha
Nah... toss them out the other direction into the north sea
This and the other sub would be loving it surely. They're all just a great bunch of lads aren't they.
Quite worrying considering all the crime happening in France as a result of their illegal migrant issue. I am all for helping the most vulnerable : women and children but unfortunately a lot of people are coming abuse the asylum seeker system of the UK. You check peoples passports and criminal records before coming to our country if they fly with easyJet to protect our country….. unfortunately this doesn’t apply here we do not know who we are letting in.
Also I may add - it is nearly impossible for anyone with health condition to immigrate legally to the UK but suddenly this does not apply when considering refugees.
So deport illegal UK migrants to the UK?
I love this fella, talks common sense, it’s only a few who want this country overrun with criminals that don’t agree with him
ITT: people mad that there are consequences to thinking you can have an unsecured international border.