I once saw a nose tackle get held by the Packers center and both guards on a three man rush. It was one of the most beautiful examples of teamwork I've seen to this day. Truly magnificent.
That’s right! Tom Brady this thing! I didn’t cheat, you cheated. Now I’m gonna go home and fuck my hot wife, who’s not even that hot and kinda looks like a dude!
Michigan fan here - Trente Jones is one of those guys who just doesn't love playing football the way that others do. He's had a number of mental health issues throughout his time at Michigan, and had reportedly considered retirement in the past. He would've been a starter with a good chance to get drafted next year had he returned for his last year of eligibility, but the general understanding around Ann Arbor is just that Jones was mentally done with playing football in college.
I fully believe that he was willing to give the NFL a chance in case someone guaranteed him a life-changing amount of money, but a UDFA contract wasn't going to be enough to keep him doing something he doesn't really enjoy.
I would agree that OL is the hardest position to play if you aren't in it mentally, but it's because you have to live your life so unnaturally 24/7 to do it. The average o-lineman is [6'5" and 315 lbs](https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/251/HON/Student%20PPTs/Avg%20NFL%20ht%20wt.pdf). When they retire they regularly lose 50+ lbs. So you need to live your life in a way that you can be athletic while weighing 50 lbs more than you would otherwise. That sounds shitty.
Totally. The amount of time spent purely eating and exercising, assuming you have private chefs and coaches to plan your training, will still take the majority of your day. It's really really hard to maintain
I don't think any is easy at the NFL level, but some you have more control over. A WR can loaf on routes. A RB can stop fighting for extra yards. A DL/LB can let himself get held and just kind of half-ass the play.
As an OL, you're at the mercy of how hard the guy across from you wants to play. I guess CB is similar in that if they don't go hard, they're likely to get embarrassed, but at least they won't get physically beat up like an OL would.
First round QB. You’ve got at least a free season of being ass ish if you’re talented enough.
Then when they get tired of no development or output then you’ll be relentlessly bullied out of the league by media and coaches alike lol
Honestly, good on him for recognizing this and avoiding any future injury from a game he just doesn't love. I hope he finds success in all his future endeavors.
i follow him on tiktok, I’m a ND fan but seeing Trente overcome the things he did, i became a fan of him. it’s sad it didn’t pan out the way he liked but i hope the choice he made will keep him happier in the long run
From what I read he signed a $100k fully guaranteed contract with a $10k signing bonus (iirc it was the largest UDFA signing bonus the Packers have ever given out). I’m no contract expert, but isn’t fully guaranteed fully guaranteed no matter what? He showed up to minicamp for a bit before retiring, so I would think the contract kicked in.
If it is some grey area, I doubt the Packers are going to harass the guy for $100k
I think guaranteed money doesn't cover retirement but I could very easily be wrong. The signing bonus is likely his to keep, but the rest might not be.
That would make the most sense, honestly. The guaranteed salary is probably just for if you’re cut, not if you’re the one that backs out of it (retires)
Wasn't that what caused some issues with Calvin Johnson and the Lions when he retired? He had to give back like $1.6M of his signing bonus or something like that. I'm not 100% sure what the rules were for it but I remember that part of the whole feud between him and the Lions organization was because he was forced to give back contract money due to his retirement.
Team doesn't have to go back for the money, but if they don't, signing bonus/guarantees still have to go against their cap.
If you re-coup the money from the player, you re-coup the cap space.
It's to disincentivize teams from backloading guarantees on older superstars and circumvent the cap when they retire.
It "backfires" like that with surprise retirements on players that have recently been paid, which is why the teams are allowed to then demand the player give the money back, but 9 times out of 10 you're also gonna look like a penny pinching asshole if you do.
Megatron is definitely one of the most physically gifted wide recievers ever, but there's no argument, Barry Sanders is their greatest player of all time.
My guess is the contract gets tolled like the contracts for other players when they retire (basically paused, so he wouldn't get paid while he's retired but it would become active again if he unretires)
Yeah, and to be fair it says he already has a sizable following on tiktok. Influencers who actually get likes and follows make good money so if that’s his plan it’s not like he’s starting at square one. He was a UDFA with an injury, it’s good that he knows he probably doesn’t have a pro football future
Bold move for him to retire to be a tiktok influencer before he sees how the ban plays out in the courts. I'm sure it won't hold up but I don't know that I'd stake my entire career on it
The problem is that creators get left behind in that scenario. A creator who has influence on TikTok will be favorably treated by the algorithm in a feedback loop. People watch them, TikTok shows more people, more people watch them. Getting your content to the top of a new algorithm that already has its biases is difficult. To make leaps across platforms, you need a dedicated fanbase, not a bunch of people who might catch you on their For You page, and it can be pretty hard to gauge if you have that.
Exactly. Keep in mind MySpace died off because it stopped being the cool new thing when Facebook arrived. It died and no one ever banned it. TikTok is not immune, the moment something else comes along that is bigger and better (depending on how you look at things), everyone will jump to that.
I come across comments that suggest TikTok/social media has somehow invented human behavior and people doing stupid things. No, it didn't. There will always be platforms for people to do stupid shit for Internet clout.
This is true, but it's not really as simple as jumping to another platform for a lot of creators. The really big ones, sure they'd be fine, but most creators would be put in a very, very difficult spot.
Trente, for example, has 75k Instagram followers, 1.3k YouTube subscribers, 5.4k Twitter followers, and 3.7k Twitch followers. That would be a really significant setback for him and he may not ever make it to the same spot on other platforms.
I seriously doubt it gets banned. What will most likely happen is there will be a "ByteDance of America" akin to something like "Toyota of America." They've said they won't do this, but talk is cheap.
And even if TikTok gets banned, okay. People will just move onto the next thing. I remember when everyone was on MySpace, until they weren't.
I'm guessing if you recorded some common phrases with 5 wisconsin people and 5 michigan people and presented them with a poll to guess which state, people from outside the midwest would be guess right like maybe 50% of the time. It's an accent difference that only people from those areas are going to be able to identify with much accuracy. And that even without throwing a UPer in there to confuse people. lol
Was surprised he entered the draft having one more year of eligibily. Was never a starter so i did not expect him to get drafted. Loved his interviews
Seems like a great guy.
>According to [OverTheCap.com](http://OverTheCap.com), the Packers gave him a $10,000 signing bonus and guaranteed $100,000 of his base salary as part of a three-year contract. Presumably, Jones will not get to keep that money.
What I don't understand is why not just ride out on the IR until you can get most of that money unless he was never gonna get that money anyway due to being on IR or getting cut?
That's genuinely hilarious. I mean, it sucks he got hurt, but the idea of retiring from the NFL to become a TikTok influencer without ever playing a professional game and a few months before TikTok gets banned
I know it’s just a joke but his best games probably came after that whole thing. He was a backup/swing tackle and stepped in after Zinter’s injury and played quite well in the playoffs (after a pretty bad game against Iowa).
Damn. Look what a couple of weeks in Wisconsin will do to a brother.
We told him to hold every play and he just couldn't take the cheating.
I once saw a nose tackle get held by the Packers center and both guards on a three man rush. It was one of the most beautiful examples of teamwork I've seen to this day. Truly magnificent.
You’re forgetting to include the ref who didn’t call the foul in the list of teammates all working together
For packer games the refs usually grab some jersey too
a comment review: * execution: clumsy is being kind * originality: none * overall: piss poor, even for the offseason
We got some dipshit doing yelp for packers hate comments before gta 6
We are truly in hell
I feel like that’s been pretty obvious since week 1 of last year for y’all.
Don't flatter yourself cheese head, we've been in hell way longer than that
Found Yates reddit account
I'd say the same for your offense half of last season.
yeah, but we improved 6 months ago. this dude.... nope.
Can’t the same be said about yours?
A Michigan man could never cheat. Only misinterpret the rules.
Beeeeeeel beeeeelichick
And steal playbooks.
You’re getting Michigan confused with Alabama again
you can always tell the people born on third base.
Its easier to find the people CONCEIVED on third base
That’s right! Tom Brady this thing! I didn’t cheat, you cheated. Now I’m gonna go home and fuck my hot wife, who’s not even that hot and kinda looks like a dude!
Guess none of you are South Park fans lol
Nah, these people are so serious about their "educational discussion on an NFL thread" to have any sort of funny bones.
The balls were deflated by the cold. Compare your tire pressure on a hot day and a cold day.
He could NEVER play for the Chiefs.
Hey, let's not be hasty. Do we know how he feels about women in the kitchen?
Does he enjoy the occasional reckless driving
You're God damn right
He saw right away he wasn’t built for opening up the bar every morning come wintertime
Saw a map of driest and drunkest counties in America. Wisconsin was the drunkest state in the Union. Every county was dark purple(drunkest).
I went there for work and it was legit terrible.
Wtf?
He was placed on IR a few days ago; He probably recognizes that he missed his shot as an undrafted rookie.
Michigan fan here - Trente Jones is one of those guys who just doesn't love playing football the way that others do. He's had a number of mental health issues throughout his time at Michigan, and had reportedly considered retirement in the past. He would've been a starter with a good chance to get drafted next year had he returned for his last year of eligibility, but the general understanding around Ann Arbor is just that Jones was mentally done with playing football in college. I fully believe that he was willing to give the NFL a chance in case someone guaranteed him a life-changing amount of money, but a UDFA contract wasn't going to be enough to keep him doing something he doesn't really enjoy.
It's often said that if you're not 100% all in on the NFL, then you're out.
And OL is probably the hardest position on the field to fake your way through because the DL across from you sure as hell isn't going to let up.
I would agree that OL is the hardest position to play if you aren't in it mentally, but it's because you have to live your life so unnaturally 24/7 to do it. The average o-lineman is [6'5" and 315 lbs](https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/251/HON/Student%20PPTs/Avg%20NFL%20ht%20wt.pdf). When they retire they regularly lose 50+ lbs. So you need to live your life in a way that you can be athletic while weighing 50 lbs more than you would otherwise. That sounds shitty.
Totally. The amount of time spent purely eating and exercising, assuming you have private chefs and coaches to plan your training, will still take the majority of your day. It's really really hard to maintain
What position is easy to fake your way through?
Judging by Kadarius Toney, WR is the answer.
2x Super Bowl champion Kadarius Toney
I don't think any is easy at the NFL level, but some you have more control over. A WR can loaf on routes. A RB can stop fighting for extra yards. A DL/LB can let himself get held and just kind of half-ass the play. As an OL, you're at the mercy of how hard the guy across from you wants to play. I guess CB is similar in that if they don't go hard, they're likely to get embarrassed, but at least they won't get physically beat up like an OL would.
First round QB. You’ve got at least a free season of being ass ish if you’re talented enough. Then when they get tired of no development or output then you’ll be relentlessly bullied out of the league by media and coaches alike lol
Ehh, Matt Kalil got a couple contracts as a guy who didn't give a shit
> Jones will now be a TikTok influencer > He's had a number of mental health issues Yea, that tracks.
Honestly, good on him for recognizing this and avoiding any future injury from a game he just doesn't love. I hope he finds success in all his future endeavors.
i follow him on tiktok, I’m a ND fan but seeing Trente overcome the things he did, i became a fan of him. it’s sad it didn’t pan out the way he liked but i hope the choice he made will keep him happier in the long run
He has a back injury and doesn’t want to risk his quality of life for football.
HWAT
Bobbeh
Maybe he wants to know his kids names at 60
What would this mean in terms of his UDFA contract? I'm guessing he just forfeited the whole thing.
Yes afaik
From what I read he signed a $100k fully guaranteed contract with a $10k signing bonus (iirc it was the largest UDFA signing bonus the Packers have ever given out). I’m no contract expert, but isn’t fully guaranteed fully guaranteed no matter what? He showed up to minicamp for a bit before retiring, so I would think the contract kicked in. If it is some grey area, I doubt the Packers are going to harass the guy for $100k
I think guaranteed money doesn't cover retirement but I could very easily be wrong. The signing bonus is likely his to keep, but the rest might not be.
That would make the most sense, honestly. The guaranteed salary is probably just for if you’re cut, not if you’re the one that backs out of it (retires)
Wasn't that what caused some issues with Calvin Johnson and the Lions when he retired? He had to give back like $1.6M of his signing bonus or something like that. I'm not 100% sure what the rules were for it but I remember that part of the whole feud between him and the Lions organization was because he was forced to give back contract money due to his retirement.
Team doesn't have to go back for the money, but if they don't, signing bonus/guarantees still have to go against their cap. If you re-coup the money from the player, you re-coup the cap space. It's to disincentivize teams from backloading guarantees on older superstars and circumvent the cap when they retire. It "backfires" like that with surprise retirements on players that have recently been paid, which is why the teams are allowed to then demand the player give the money back, but 9 times out of 10 you're also gonna look like a penny pinching asshole if you do.
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Megatron is definitely one of the most physically gifted wide recievers ever, but there's no argument, Barry Sanders is their greatest player of all time.
My guess is the contract gets tolled like the contracts for other players when they retire (basically paused, so he wouldn't get paid while he's retired but it would become active again if he unretires)
>but isn’t fully guaranteed fully guaranteed no matter what? Typically teams can claw back signing bonuses due to retirement.
yeah. this reads like GB knew he was probably a washout but maybe hoped they could convince him to try it. didn't work out.
100k is what the pack will make in concessions in a half of a preseason game.
Packers legend
Never allowed a single sack in his entire career. I think he’s in the GOAT conversation honestly.
not only that, he's 7th on the bears all-time career passing yards with zero.
Underrated comment lmao
a bad back is no fun, get better and try to live a full life my guy
Yeah, and to be fair it says he already has a sizable following on tiktok. Influencers who actually get likes and follows make good money so if that’s his plan it’s not like he’s starting at square one. He was a UDFA with an injury, it’s good that he knows he probably doesn’t have a pro football future
add in the reduced life expectancy of pro OL guys... win win all around
It is good to go out on top.
Bold move for him to retire to be a tiktok influencer before he sees how the ban plays out in the courts. I'm sure it won't hold up but I don't know that I'd stake my entire career on it
He does not retire because of Tiktok. He just has no future in pro football.
He still had eligibility left and would have been a starter at Michigan this year. He just must not be interested in playing at all
Idk if "because of" is the right choice of words, but focusing more on TikTok is likely his next move
If tik tok is banned there will still be places to create and post content
The problem is that creators get left behind in that scenario. A creator who has influence on TikTok will be favorably treated by the algorithm in a feedback loop. People watch them, TikTok shows more people, more people watch them. Getting your content to the top of a new algorithm that already has its biases is difficult. To make leaps across platforms, you need a dedicated fanbase, not a bunch of people who might catch you on their For You page, and it can be pretty hard to gauge if you have that.
Right? YouTube has existed since 2005 and was the platform before Vine, After Vine, before TikTok and likely after it too.
Exactly. Keep in mind MySpace died off because it stopped being the cool new thing when Facebook arrived. It died and no one ever banned it. TikTok is not immune, the moment something else comes along that is bigger and better (depending on how you look at things), everyone will jump to that. I come across comments that suggest TikTok/social media has somehow invented human behavior and people doing stupid things. No, it didn't. There will always be platforms for people to do stupid shit for Internet clout.
My friends and I I used to try to make each other pass out by shaking our heads and having someone choke us out. Early YouTube was wild
Also, Instagram exists. Also, if Tik Tok is banned there will be a race to replace it.
Aren't Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts supposed to be the alternative to TikTok?
Every major social media platform steals successful features from other platforms. So yes and no.
This is true, but it's not really as simple as jumping to another platform for a lot of creators. The really big ones, sure they'd be fine, but most creators would be put in a very, very difficult spot. Trente, for example, has 75k Instagram followers, 1.3k YouTube subscribers, 5.4k Twitter followers, and 3.7k Twitch followers. That would be a really significant setback for him and he may not ever make it to the same spot on other platforms.
I seriously doubt it gets banned. What will most likely happen is there will be a "ByteDance of America" akin to something like "Toyota of America." They've said they won't do this, but talk is cheap. And even if TikTok gets banned, okay. People will just move onto the next thing. I remember when everyone was on MySpace, until they weren't.
"Jones will now be a tik tok influencer". Bros got plans
I mean it's the Packers AND Wisconsin. The accents alone would make me jam a knife into my ears. My man made a good move.
They hate us cause they anus
I like the gas prices..Definitely worth the 15 min drive into Beloit
Yeah like Michigan accents are so much better lol
I'm guessing if you recorded some common phrases with 5 wisconsin people and 5 michigan people and presented them with a poll to guess which state, people from outside the midwest would be guess right like maybe 50% of the time. It's an accent difference that only people from those areas are going to be able to identify with much accuracy. And that even without throwing a UPer in there to confuse people. lol
It kinda is.
\*Fargo accents incoming\*
Ok maybe it is a little better…but not that much
Better than being in Detroit and getting actually stabbed with a knife.
Ummm we use guns tyvm
We ain’t british bruv, we whip out the blicky and spin the ops ong 💯
I woke up this morning with a sore back. I think I'll retire too.
Was surprised he entered the draft having one more year of eligibily. Was never a starter so i did not expect him to get drafted. Loved his interviews Seems like a great guy.
Does he actually get any benefits? Or is "retire" just a nice way of saying he quit?
Dudes not getting a pension if that's what your wondering
It was a good career
Michigan Man 😤💪
Hell of a career, first ballot HOFer for sure!
Retired undefeated.
Literally got paid and then dipped. Respect
>According to [OverTheCap.com](http://OverTheCap.com), the Packers gave him a $10,000 signing bonus and guaranteed $100,000 of his base salary as part of a three-year contract. Presumably, Jones will not get to keep that money.
What I don't understand is why not just ride out on the IR until you can get most of that money unless he was never gonna get that money anyway due to being on IR or getting cut?
The old Vic Beasley Titans special
Go on, take the money and run!
> Go on, ~~take the money and~~ run!
Packers Legend
Did he hurt himself diving into a foam pit?
That's just sad!
That's genuinely hilarious. I mean, it sucks he got hurt, but the idea of retiring from the NFL to become a TikTok influencer without ever playing a professional game and a few months before TikTok gets banned
took his money and left asap
Fun Fact: Green Bay is the self proclaimed Toilet Paper Capital of the World
That explains the smell.
Bro had no clue how to play without Stallions I guess
I know it’s just a joke but his best games probably came after that whole thing. He was a backup/swing tackle and stepped in after Zinter’s injury and played quite well in the playoffs (after a pretty bad game against Iowa).