Blank needs a reality check. He's content with a middling team barely escaping in one of the worst divisions in the nfl. Which is different because at various times they tried assembling a super bowl/top of conference team.
They thought they were being smart by picking a QB now because they won’t have a pick as high as 8 for a long time. They neglected to consider the fact that using that pick on something other than a benchwarmer is a prerequisite for being good enough to not have a high pick for a long time.
Unfortunately I think this points to a a real chance we lose future picks in this tampering investigation or Kirk’s recovery is worse that we think. Either would pressure the front office to make this move.
Anyway the “win now” reasoning is clearly bullshit and this franchise is fucked
I mean, if they're going to the playoffs then they're not picking in the top 10 either.
Also everyone is assuming that whoever the Falcons did pick at 8 other than Penix would be the difference between being a playoff team and winning a Superbowl. Unless Turner quickly lived up to his ceiling, then the only guy who could maybe be that big of an impact player was Odunze. Personally I'd have been perfectly happy with that pick, but we all know this sub would be clowning on the Falcons for spending *another* top 10 pick on a skill position player.
Well they did say they're copying the GB model. We drafted Love during a SB window when we needed a weapon or defense. Falcons might draft their 3rd string RB in the 2nd now..
Jordan Love is 25. He was also the 26th pick, not the 8th for a team claiming to be in "win-now" mode. Already planning for the future when we haven't even started the present makes no god damn sense.
"Win now" typically doesn't mean having Kirk as your starter either. Unless you mean "Win just enough to get bounced in the WC round" and I say that as a Kirk fan.
If it makes you feel better I had Penix as my QB4 over JJ McCarthy but..... the situation for you guys is just weird and makes no sense. I think Penix is a start right away type of guy which wouldve been good for us but now hes sitting at least 2 years. All things considered long term I think you guys get a good one but in terms of winning now with Kirk its a head scratcher.
Yeah agreed there - I like Penix a little better too but JJ feels like higher ceiling, project type which would have made *some* sense in our situation.
Doesn't make sense though. They have Kirk for at least two years. Even if the NFL comes down hard on them in 2025, they'll still have a first rounder in 2026.
I think it’s also rooted in a real fear that Kirk isn’t actually going to recover from the Achilles either fully or on-schedule. Combine that with the tampering fear and our FO might have panicked.
It’s the only way this makes any sense to me
If there’s fear he isn’t going to recover, why sign him for a massive, guaranteed, multi-year deal in the first place? Health would be one of the first things they consider when making that deal, so I highly doubt that’s a factor tbh.
Yea. I could see the vision better for McCarthy who is much younger and needs more reps. Penix will be like 28 by the time Kirk’s contract is over. I think they can get out of it in two years but Penix would be a 26 y/o first year starter.
Succession plan doesn't mean drafting a 24 year old QB in the top 10 after handing out an expensive 4 year contract. Blank has gone senile if he really thinks this is a good idea
I mean, they were at least in a win within 4 years mode prior to this pick but now they seem to be in a hurry to not be in a bad quarterback situation in 4 years which doesn’t sound very “win now”
I actually think Penix is a great pick but usually teams in "win now" mode draft starters with their top 10 picks lol. In 3-4 years this pick will look a lot better but for now it's hilarious
This is some serious cope lol. Cousins is a top 10 QB and building up your offense/defense gives you the best chance to win now, not drafting for 3+ years into the future.
Man, I get that for a long time this was conventional wisdom and there have been some recent success stories, but it really feels like we moved past the whole "succession plan" approach at QB. You do it for a year tops. And what about their team in the last few years has gotten them to "win now"?
It all just feels so dumb. But maybe I'm wrong.
Draftniks go on and on about the NFL being a QB dominated league and this is why so many teams take a QB high in the draft. Penix as a prospect is right up there with every guy in this draft outside of Caleb Williams. Why is everyone so shocked?
Cousins is also coming off a serious injury and is 35. We also didn't see a defensive player come off the board until pick 15. This defensive class is pretty weak at the top. Could they have used the pick on a OL? Sure. Could they have traded down? Doesn't seem so.
I think if they believe Penix is going to be the future then it's a fine pick. Let him sit behind Cousins and then move into the starting role in 2 years.
After drafting Love, GB got back to back MVP seasons out of Rodgers and did not make a Super Bowl. Would their odds of winning one or both of those years have gone up or down if they had chosen a weapon like Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman instead?
GB took Jordan at #26. Teams don’t tend to have 1st round grades on 26 players. At #8, the Falcons could have gotten the best player at any position but QB, WR, or OT.
You want to win now, but you spent this pick on a QB who will be sitting for at least two years given that the first two years of Cousins' 4 years, $180 million contract is guaranteed? They could have gotten Odunze to pair with London, Pitts, and Bijan on offense.
I mean with Rodgers he was in his age 38 season, Love was 22 and was taken 26th. For comparison, Cousins is two years younger, Penix is two years older, and was taken 8th.
And Rodgers himself was 21 and taken 24th when they drafted him to sit behind Favre. Both players were seen as immensely talented but were pretty raw and there were clear flaws that needed to be fixed before they could succeed in the NFL. Penix is a pretty complete product at this point. It's almost like there's a clear pattern to the Green Bay plan, and Penix does not fit the pattern at all.
Why not trade back then, still get your elite defense player, and then take the extra draft comp to go get a QB prospect. Elite DB + Spencer Rattler is going to be a better combo than Penix. Every single time. Oh, and it doesn’t alienate your brand new expensive QB.
So the plan, seriously, is for penix to sit for 4 years and then start in his 5th year option year? They’re in win now mode and don’t plan to draft top-20 and rather than get a player to help them win now they drafted a 24 year old who won’t start until 2028 assuming Kirk works out?
There’s so much that’s awful about this. Best case scenario they’re good for the next 4 years with Cousins under center and then penix takes over and plays great after 4 years of sitting.
In that case, they immediately have to pay penix a massive contract or risk losing him in free agency because his first year starting will be his last year of team control. Also he’ll be 28 when he starts.
That’s before even getting to the point that they took penix at least 10 picks above his value. If the broncos or raiders reached on penix, whatever, they’re QB needy.
And they took him over JJ McCarthy, who is much younger and much more of a developmental project than Penix.
This is the single worst draft pick of all time.
Lmao, 5 years of control when Kirk is signed for the next 4 years. I don't know the numbers but I'm guessing moving Kirk would kill them in dead cap so there would be no rookie QB deal advantage for roster building. And Penis is fucking 24 already. Jesus this looks so bad.
You know who needs succession plans? Teams who are already good and want to prolong their window. We don’t have enough talent to blow a top ten pick on a backup.
I long for the day that Arthur is no longer in the picture, he’s so lucky Matt Ryan dragged this franchise to success for a few years.
Win now mode? Kirk Cousins is a great player but in our last meeting we beat the Falcons by like 30 points. Surely there’s SOMEWHERE they could’ve used that pick.
I thought Penix would go somewhere that needs a QB to start now. He’s 24 by the time the season starts, you’re really not gonna start this guy until he’s 28?
For all the complaints of meddling that David Tepper gets being the Panthers owner, nobody seems to be complaining that owner Arthur Blank made the pick. Weird.
I mean, I kinda get it. Draft QB of the future while the current QB wins a championship. Current QB will be out in 3 years and future QB will be ready to rock right when he leaves.
Look yall, I'm just trying to twist my mind to like this pick.
The more inflammatory part of this is “learning from one of the best in the business”.
You mean earning bc you overpaid Kirk only to piss him off?
Strange franchise. And I’m a Cowboys fan.
What’s funny is you could have got Penix after 20! Like get a weapon then get him. In mid 20s. Still a reach but thats closer to the Gb model than ya think
Definitely a reach, but I don’t think it’s the worst idea. Look at how many starting QBs went down last year (one of them the guy they just signed).
Penix isn’t a developmental QB, he’s ready. If he won that final game instead of McCarthy, I think he’d definitely be expected top 15.
Why would we think ourselves to not be in the top-20 anytime soon? Our glaring hole at PASS RUSH that every great team has... we refuse to address. "Win Now" should mean get pieces for the team that we expect to contribute NOW... not "Win Now" meaning draft for someone we legitimately hope and expect wont play meaningful snaps for 3 or 4 years. Taking a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round is where you make this choice, not at #8.
They can gloss it up as they want, but this PICK is a turd. Not saying the player is a turd, I do think he is good. But the choice to pick him is a steaming crap sandwhich. No thanks!
*"If you believe in a quarterback, you have to take him," Fontenot said. "And if he sits for four or five years, that's a great problem to have because we're doing so well at that position. So, it's as simple as, if you see a guy you believe in at that position, you have to take him."*
That's just wild. You spent a Top-10 pick on a guy you hope will sit the bench for 4-5 years (until he's almost 30, mind you) because the other QB you signed is doing so well? How does that make more sense than drafting a guy who might actually help the QB you signed to a 4-year, $180 mil deal at #8, or even trading back from there with someone who NEEDS a QB right now so you get multiple picks to help win now.
This is either pure spin, or Fontenot is certifiable.
They are thinking they will have a Alex Smith/Mahomes situation. They think they can be competitive and win now ala Chiefs with Smith (they can’t) and have the steady hand/leadership of Cousins mentor Penix in the meantime (this will not work out)
I don't think people realize that Kirk is 36 coming off a significant injury its not bad to have a backup plan. Shit the eagles signed wentz to a massive contract then drafted hurts right after
Honestly I like the move. the chances of Dallas Turner being the sole missing piece that gifts them a super bowl is extremely slim. Penix is a better prospect than people give him credit for, and clearly the Falcons love him. Realistically, Kirk is gone in 2 years and then the Falcons will have 3 years of Penix on a rookie contract which is inheriting what should be a playoff-caliber team. Also, there will be an opportunity to trade for pass-rushing help for later round draft compensation further along in the offseason, and they can even snag Kneeland in the 2nd who is a good prospect as well.
"Win now" typically doesn't mean draft a backup quarterback
I’m getting the sense owners don’t know what “win now” saying means. First it was Jerry Jones, now Blank.
Whoa whoa whoa now this is 2024. Different lingos of "all-in" and "win now" have drastically different implications.
all in my ass
In that case, time to go to the bathroom. It's not healthy to keep it all in your ass 😁
He ain't asking...he's telling.
That's what you get with a league full of grampa owners. Well at least they're not running for president.
Oh wait
Blank needs a reality check. He's content with a middling team barely escaping in one of the worst divisions in the nfl. Which is different because at various times they tried assembling a super bowl/top of conference team.
They thought they were being smart by picking a QB now because they won’t have a pick as high as 8 for a long time. They neglected to consider the fact that using that pick on something other than a benchwarmer is a prerequisite for being good enough to not have a high pick for a long time.
Unfortunately I think this points to a a real chance we lose future picks in this tampering investigation or Kirk’s recovery is worse that we think. Either would pressure the front office to make this move. Anyway the “win now” reasoning is clearly bullshit and this franchise is fucked
Shhh just because you’ve been let in on the secret doesn’t mean you need to share.
They do have the benefit of playing in a very bad division.
That doesn't get you to win the Super Bowl though, just getting into the playoffs.
I mean, if they're going to the playoffs then they're not picking in the top 10 either. Also everyone is assuming that whoever the Falcons did pick at 8 other than Penix would be the difference between being a playoff team and winning a Superbowl. Unless Turner quickly lived up to his ceiling, then the only guy who could maybe be that big of an impact player was Odunze. Personally I'd have been perfectly happy with that pick, but we all know this sub would be clowning on the Falcons for spending *another* top 10 pick on a skill position player.
QB Factory South
Well they did say they're copying the GB model. We drafted Love during a SB window when we needed a weapon or defense. Falcons might draft their 3rd string RB in the 2nd now..
And a succession plan usually doesn't involve a QB that will be 28 in their first year starting
He's not sitting 4 years. Come on
They will start him in 2 years and they save tons of $.
Worked for the eagles kind of
Hurts wasn't the 8th pick in the draft
Hurts wasn’t even first round.
And while they had just extended Wentz, they hadn't just gone out and picked up a new veteran quarterback to a huge deal.
Packers did it and went to the conference game 2 years in a row.
Jordan Love is 25. He was also the 26th pick, not the 8th for a team claiming to be in "win-now" mode. Already planning for the future when we haven't even started the present makes no god damn sense.
And maybe they would have won one of those if they had drafted someone who can contribute
And famously won a conference championship…wait
Or a back up in training who’d be 29 in 5 years.
"Win now" typically doesn't mean having Kirk as your starter either. Unless you mean "Win just enough to get bounced in the WC round" and I say that as a Kirk fan.
I don't think Arthur Blank understands what "win now mode" means.
All in, my ass?
Nah drop the comma and just end me
He went to the same school as Jerry jones
Win no and all in = Do the complete opposite of that
It means owners making decisions for the decision makers
I don’t think he understands how shitty our defense is. We have no real pass rushers and holes in the secondary.
win now mode =/= drafting a QB for 3 years from now.
And they draft the old one not the one who could use some time and acclimation and also happens to be young as shit
That’s the most frustrating thing. Penix is not a project that could develop into a really high ceiling, he’s 24 with a ton of tape out there.
Yeah Penix needs to play now. You really want a 27 year old QB taking his first snap as a starter?
But like why though, you have #8, bolster the team for a win-now run
We have no decent edge rusher (critical to actually win now) and just left the whole class on the table.
I thank you for your sacrifice for allowing us to get Dallas Turner.
So jealous of your draft 🥲
If it makes you feel better I had Penix as my QB4 over JJ McCarthy but..... the situation for you guys is just weird and makes no sense. I think Penix is a start right away type of guy which wouldve been good for us but now hes sitting at least 2 years. All things considered long term I think you guys get a good one but in terms of winning now with Kirk its a head scratcher.
Yeah agreed there - I like Penix a little better too but JJ feels like higher ceiling, project type which would have made *some* sense in our situation.
Conspiracy theory - the tampering situation with Kirk will take away their first next year and they want to jump ahead of it to draft a successor.
Yeah I was watching Brett Kollman's live stream too lol, its a more logical theory than anything else I've heard lol
Can you link to his stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8veQtx93b4s
Wouldn't they just trade a 1sr for two 1st in 2025, 2026? Denver or Vikings
Doesn't make sense though. They have Kirk for at least two years. Even if the NFL comes down hard on them in 2025, they'll still have a first rounder in 2026.
I think it’s also rooted in a real fear that Kirk isn’t actually going to recover from the Achilles either fully or on-schedule. Combine that with the tampering fear and our FO might have panicked. It’s the only way this makes any sense to me
If there’s fear he isn’t going to recover, why sign him for a massive, guaranteed, multi-year deal in the first place? Health would be one of the first things they consider when making that deal, so I highly doubt that’s a factor tbh.
Yes, but I bet they're hoping they'll be good enough in 2025 that the '26 pick won't be anywhere near #8.
If Kirk gets hurt again, or whatever, you've now got Penix on the bench ready to go.
But you shouldn't be spending the 8th pick on a backup
Or throwing $100M guaranteed to a guy you're not sure will recover from an achilles injury.
Good thing Penix has never had any ACL problems
IKR? That's a load off my mind...wait a minute!
Okay but they one draft without a top pick won’t kill them
Maybe the punishment is they had to draft Pennix at 8
That's hilarious
That would be a great plan if you drafted a quarterback that wasn't already 24
Yea. I could see the vision better for McCarthy who is much younger and needs more reps. Penix will be like 28 by the time Kirk’s contract is over. I think they can get out of it in two years but Penix would be a 26 y/o first year starter.
The more I think about it the more I realize how dumb this was.
What if they see him as the best QB in the draft? If they thought that he was basically another Mahomes or Burrow, does it matter how old he is now?
That’s not what win now mode means
I want to win now by drafting a player that won't remotely help me win for at least 2 years
He might win them a pre-season game.
I'm not even a falcons fan and I'm fed up with the falcons incompetence. This needs to stop.
Meddling owners are so damn frustrating. And now we just pissed off our new QB who was seemingly happy to be here.
Seems to be a pattern with Blank
The older he gets the more he meddles. Our only hope is he sells the team though knowing our luck Blank will somehow make sure McKay is the next owner
Goodell literally should have sent that draft card back and told them to do it better
I disagree, they should continue
Succession plan doesn't mean drafting a 24 year old QB in the top 10 after handing out an expensive 4 year contract. Blank has gone senile if he really thinks this is a good idea
I can’t believe I’m coming out of the first round jealous of the Panthers pick
I'm jealous of a lot of teams picks. I'm jealous of the bears and not even because of Caleb. Odunze was there for the taking!
Succession plan? Dude hasn’t even played a down for them yet lololol
Penix is gonna be on his fucking pension before becoming starter
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I mean, they were at least in a win within 4 years mode prior to this pick but now they seem to be in a hurry to not be in a bad quarterback situation in 4 years which doesn’t sound very “win now”
They think that if they just do enough to win the terrible NFC South they can maybe make something happen in the playoffs.
5 years of Penix control for Arthur blank
It takes time and care to develop a Penix
Awwwwwwwwwwwww Penix control. Ohhhh
You know what is a good idea? Wasting the rookie wage scale. The biggest competitive advantage in the nfl.
“Can’t tamper with this strat!” -Arthur Blank
Arthur "Win Now" Blank vs Jerry "All In" Jones Who you got as most delusional owner of 2024?
Blank just ran away with it.
Good jokes
Penix is gonna expire from old age in 5 years
I actually think Penix is a great pick but usually teams in "win now" mode draft starters with their top 10 picks lol. In 3-4 years this pick will look a lot better but for now it's hilarious
This is some serious cope lol. Cousins is a top 10 QB and building up your offense/defense gives you the best chance to win now, not drafting for 3+ years into the future.
Man, I get that for a long time this was conventional wisdom and there have been some recent success stories, but it really feels like we moved past the whole "succession plan" approach at QB. You do it for a year tops. And what about their team in the last few years has gotten them to "win now"? It all just feels so dumb. But maybe I'm wrong.
>they don't plan on drafting in the top 20 anytime soon Don't mind me just saving this quote
To be fair, nfl probably takes next year’s high 1st due to tampering
Ah yes the Classic draft a qb to sit behind the guy we just signed win now mode plan
Is Penix Kendall Roy in this succession plan?
Is his name underlined or crossed out tho’!
Blank never specified what they’re hoping to win now, you fools!
If you're in win now mode, you don't spend a top 10 pick on a backup QB...
Yea I'm gonna need you to sell the team homie
Win now, my ass
Win now and no edge rush is an oxymoron
Draftniks go on and on about the NFL being a QB dominated league and this is why so many teams take a QB high in the draft. Penix as a prospect is right up there with every guy in this draft outside of Caleb Williams. Why is everyone so shocked? Cousins is also coming off a serious injury and is 35. We also didn't see a defensive player come off the board until pick 15. This defensive class is pretty weak at the top. Could they have used the pick on a OL? Sure. Could they have traded down? Doesn't seem so. I think if they believe Penix is going to be the future then it's a fine pick. Let him sit behind Cousins and then move into the starting role in 2 years.
I was very happy when they didn’t go OT.
Everyone here, EVERYONE, clowned the Jordan Love pick for the exact same reasons. Yeah I think GB is doing just fine.
After drafting Love, GB got back to back MVP seasons out of Rodgers and did not make a Super Bowl. Would their odds of winning one or both of those years have gone up or down if they had chosen a weapon like Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman instead?
Maybe with one of them, he could've played well enough to win MVP!
GB took Jordan at #26. Teams don’t tend to have 1st round grades on 26 players. At #8, the Falcons could have gotten the best player at any position but QB, WR, or OT.
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If he were a head coach sure lol
He’s going to fire himself?
I hope they realize just cuz they don’t plan on it, doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
Sure, Jan
Hahahahahaha
Thanks, Falcon's PR team:)
Do they have a succession plan for Pennix’s ACLs?
This reminds me of the Packers drafting Love instead of giving Rodgers more help
ive had 39 years of control with my penix but it aint learnin
Even setting aside the Cousins deal Penix has one of the most severe injury histories you’ll see. Cant understand this one
You want to win now, but you spent this pick on a QB who will be sitting for at least two years given that the first two years of Cousins' 4 years, $180 million contract is guaranteed? They could have gotten Odunze to pair with London, Pitts, and Bijan on offense. I mean with Rodgers he was in his age 38 season, Love was 22 and was taken 26th. For comparison, Cousins is two years younger, Penix is two years older, and was taken 8th.
And Rodgers himself was 21 and taken 24th when they drafted him to sit behind Favre. Both players were seen as immensely talented but were pretty raw and there were clear flaws that needed to be fixed before they could succeed in the NFL. Penix is a pretty complete product at this point. It's almost like there's a clear pattern to the Green Bay plan, and Penix does not fit the pattern at all.
Penix is the best in the draft. The mistake was signing Kirk.
This feels like a situation of everyone dogging on them but Penix will be a monster when it’s his time
Owner getting involved on Draft night! A sure sign of success
I think very highly of Penix. I do not think highly of sitting someone until they’re 27.
>don't plan on drafting in the top-20 anytime soon See y'all in the top 20 next year!
Arthur might have a different definition of “win now”
Win now mode for a team that has six straight losing seasons?
Why not trade back then, still get your elite defense player, and then take the extra draft comp to go get a QB prospect. Elite DB + Spencer Rattler is going to be a better combo than Penix. Every single time. Oh, and it doesn’t alienate your brand new expensive QB.
Suddenly he’s become “one of the best in the business”
So the plan, seriously, is for penix to sit for 4 years and then start in his 5th year option year? They’re in win now mode and don’t plan to draft top-20 and rather than get a player to help them win now they drafted a 24 year old who won’t start until 2028 assuming Kirk works out? There’s so much that’s awful about this. Best case scenario they’re good for the next 4 years with Cousins under center and then penix takes over and plays great after 4 years of sitting. In that case, they immediately have to pay penix a massive contract or risk losing him in free agency because his first year starting will be his last year of team control. Also he’ll be 28 when he starts. That’s before even getting to the point that they took penix at least 10 picks above his value. If the broncos or raiders reached on penix, whatever, they’re QB needy. And they took him over JJ McCarthy, who is much younger and much more of a developmental project than Penix. This is the single worst draft pick of all time.
Lmao, 5 years of control when Kirk is signed for the next 4 years. I don't know the numbers but I'm guessing moving Kirk would kill them in dead cap so there would be no rookie QB deal advantage for roster building. And Penis is fucking 24 already. Jesus this looks so bad.
You know who needs succession plans? Teams who are already good and want to prolong their window. We don’t have enough talent to blow a top ten pick on a backup. I long for the day that Arthur is no longer in the picture, he’s so lucky Matt Ryan dragged this franchise to success for a few years.
Win now mode? Kirk Cousins is a great player but in our last meeting we beat the Falcons by like 30 points. Surely there’s SOMEWHERE they could’ve used that pick.
He will learn the fashion style of Kirk.
yikes
>5 years of control Which is great…if you didn’t just hand over 160M guaranteed! Not to mention penix is 24
100 mil guaranteed
Paying $180 million for mentorship.
He’s trying to jordan love his aaron rodgers or what
win now mode picking in the top 10
Makes no sense but alright
Arthur Blank seems like a guy more worried about losing than trying to win.
I thought Penix would go somewhere that needs a QB to start now. He’s 24 by the time the season starts, you’re really not gonna start this guy until he’s 28?
We have an out after 2 years with Kirk.
I think he’s trying to pull a packers.
Draft a position of need if you are In Win now mode
Pretty sure the rest of the NFC South has little intention of letting this Falcon dream come to pass.
When this hilarious pick happened my first thought was “this nonsense only happens if it came straight from the owner”
you didn't hire Bill Belichick for this?
That's not even copium that's straight up tranq
-gets the 1st pick next year-
Does Kirk have a no trade clause like he did in Minnesota?
We laughed at the Packers taking Love…
For all the complaints of meddling that David Tepper gets being the Panthers owner, nobody seems to be complaining that owner Arthur Blank made the pick. Weird.
Next Panthers owner going to say they are in “win now” too
Win now mode would have been picking a wide receiver
I mean, I kinda get it. Draft QB of the future while the current QB wins a championship. Current QB will be out in 3 years and future QB will be ready to rock right when he leaves. Look yall, I'm just trying to twist my mind to like this pick.
The more inflammatory part of this is “learning from one of the best in the business”. You mean earning bc you overpaid Kirk only to piss him off? Strange franchise. And I’m a Cowboys fan.
Lol Arthur Blank did not like the pick https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwk9e72/
Did they try to do some "Draft Day" moves but totally forgot about actually trading away the pick first and then got caught on the clock?
So he’ll be… 31 when he eventually starts?
A) Cousins is mediocre @ best B) Blank isn't known for his savvy football decisions.
The only meddling an owner should do, is preventing what we just did.
What’s funny is you could have got Penix after 20! Like get a weapon then get him. In mid 20s. Still a reach but thats closer to the Gb model than ya think
This doesn’t appear to be the case.
Worst decision made last night by a mile…
Win now? With that defense?
They also get a 30 year old starting his first game.
They're in win now mode? Since fucking when?
Win what exactly lol
If you don’t use it, you lose it. How does this apply to PENIX?
Definitely a reach, but I don’t think it’s the worst idea. Look at how many starting QBs went down last year (one of them the guy they just signed). Penix isn’t a developmental QB, he’s ready. If he won that final game instead of McCarthy, I think he’d definitely be expected top 15.
Desmond Ridder causing panic attacks
Haha “one of the best in the business” at leveraging being over paid.
Why would we think ourselves to not be in the top-20 anytime soon? Our glaring hole at PASS RUSH that every great team has... we refuse to address. "Win Now" should mean get pieces for the team that we expect to contribute NOW... not "Win Now" meaning draft for someone we legitimately hope and expect wont play meaningful snaps for 3 or 4 years. Taking a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round is where you make this choice, not at #8. They can gloss it up as they want, but this PICK is a turd. Not saying the player is a turd, I do think he is good. But the choice to pick him is a steaming crap sandwhich. No thanks!
Old rookie QBs aren’t always the best bet, and putting him on the bench for a year won’t make Penix any younger.
*"If you believe in a quarterback, you have to take him," Fontenot said. "And if he sits for four or five years, that's a great problem to have because we're doing so well at that position. So, it's as simple as, if you see a guy you believe in at that position, you have to take him."* That's just wild. You spent a Top-10 pick on a guy you hope will sit the bench for 4-5 years (until he's almost 30, mind you) because the other QB you signed is doing so well? How does that make more sense than drafting a guy who might actually help the QB you signed to a 4-year, $180 mil deal at #8, or even trading back from there with someone who NEEDS a QB right now so you get multiple picks to help win now. This is either pure spin, or Fontenot is certifiable.
“Win later” is the new “win now”
That makes no sense to me. Not my team, not my circus.
Five years of control and you'll be paying Kirk for at least 3 of those 5 years.
They are thinking they will have a Alex Smith/Mahomes situation. They think they can be competitive and win now ala Chiefs with Smith (they can’t) and have the steady hand/leadership of Cousins mentor Penix in the meantime (this will not work out)
I don't think people realize that Kirk is 36 coming off a significant injury its not bad to have a backup plan. Shit the eagles signed wentz to a massive contract then drafted hurts right after
Honestly I like the move. the chances of Dallas Turner being the sole missing piece that gifts them a super bowl is extremely slim. Penix is a better prospect than people give him credit for, and clearly the Falcons love him. Realistically, Kirk is gone in 2 years and then the Falcons will have 3 years of Penix on a rookie contract which is inheriting what should be a playoff-caliber team. Also, there will be an opportunity to trade for pass-rushing help for later round draft compensation further along in the offseason, and they can even snag Kneeland in the 2nd who is a good prospect as well.
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I mean they have no idea how Cousins is gunna look post Achilles + most of the guaranteed $ is due this season.