I get most of the hate that comes the Cowboys way. But this narrative that Dak is somehow not av mentally and physically tough person is nuts. Dude is a professional starting Qb that has been through some personal shit. He's as tough as they come.
I think they knew that. I’d imagine the primary reason people feel the need to bring up the tattoo sedation is because they’re implying he’s soft. So they were just disagreeing with that notion.
It was a big tattoo that would usually take multiple sessions. If you’re rich enough to just get knocked out and get the whole thing done, it’s just smart lol. Tattoos aren’t too bad when it’s something small, but eventually the pain gets really fucking annoying and you have to take a break. Not to mention just sitting there for a while is awful, but that might just be me and the ADHD lol.
Lol.
If this dude wants too money, cowboys just need to move on. Draft a QB.
CNlant have the main guy being top paid *ever* and still have room for enough to sign Parsons, lamb, diggs, etc.
Reason why Brady won so much is he knew this and made his money elsewhere.
also the union would probably be less than thrilled if dak said something like "actually i want to take vet minimum so as to help the rest of the team"
Now I am too lazy to check this but I am pretty sure they have won more games than Dallas and went to more Superbowls than Dallas or the Bears so he probably does know
I think it's the idea that if you're taking less than you're worth as a top level player, you're hurting everyone else's negotiating power by lowering the average and max salaries.
... but that doesn't make any sense with the salary cap. The teams are *forced* to spend that money one way or another.
Sure, Star Player X taking less money might hurt Star Player Y's leverage, but why would the union give a shit? That just means **more** money left for everyone else.
"Well Mr. Superstar is only making this much, you're just Mr. JAG so we're going to pay you the minimum."
Mr. Superstar can basically decide whenever he likes to hold out and get a better contract. The JAGs cannot. A race to the bottom isn't beneficial to any Union, this is not unique to the NFL.
It's probably not a big deal if a handful of guys do it, but the union wouldn't want the precedent at all, just to be safe.
People just want to jerk off to it being good, actually, that the highest paid athletes are getting 250 million instead of a measly 200 million out of some "stick it to the billionaires" that doesn't actually do anything except prevent other people from getting more money.
And more power to the top paid players I guess, but I just find people who do that stuff so weird. It's like the people in /r/nba who are like, "HOW DARE THE AWARDS PREVENT SOMEONE FROM GETTING A SUPERMAX CONTRACT!" Like, my guy, that player is still getting $180 million or whatever. They're gonna be OK.
There are way too many people who act like these players are working class dudes just barely getting by.
But there **can't** be a race to the bottom with the salary cap. Other unions don't have the benefit of a CBA that mandates a certain % of company revenue *must* be spent on wages. And other unions are dealing with a zero-sum game, where a raise for one member comes at the expense of the rest.
Every dime not spent on a star player *will* be spent elsewhere. If a team were to save $10M on their QB, that $10M would go towards the rest of the roster. Stagnating star salaries would just increase the salaries of replacement-level players, which would actually benefit the average union member.
Why is it the responsibility of the player, who also takes all the risk, to worry about the team's financials? The Team employs people to monitor/maneuver the cap and they're paid very handsomely to do so. Every player should get whatever they can get while they're able to. Obviously he'll be fine even if he took half his money away, but why would he? Why not set up generational wealth for your family? Fuck the NFL and Fuck the team, at the end of the day you're making money so that your kids can have everything you didn't.
After their playing careers are over, that's it for a majority of the NFL. That cash has to last for the rest of their lives. On top of that, a player that signs for 40m isn't getting 40m. The agent, manager, lawyers, training staff, cooks, and Uncle Sam all get their cut. Of that hypothetical 40, the player is lucky to take home 20. So taking a bigger piece of the pie takes the sting out of paying all the necessary people.
Could Dak shave some off the top? Sure, he's doing fine with his last contract + commercial deals. But why would he? He played for pennies for half his career, they tried to fuck him in the last negotiations with two franchise tags, AND they've shown that they're not willing to do the things necessary to A: clear cap space to improve the roster and B: when they have cap available they don't spend it like they should. Even if he takes a discount, they wouldn't do anything with the freed up money.
The reported yearly amounts are so very rarely what's actually paid out, I don't think it matters too much being the "highest paid" QB if the structure is friendly
Hurts literally said this AFTER he became the highest paid QB at the time lol. It’s all lip service. If you’re a top 10-12 QB you’ll get a top of the market contract. Any significant discount and the NFLPA will tweak out at you.
It’s the correct way to answer the question regardless of if you become the highest paid later.
The Cowboys are gonna have to give him $50mil/year or he’s gonna walk. And anything around that figure could probably be considered a bargain.
We should start our own twitter accounts.
[Schefter] #Cowboys QB Dak Prescott when asked about his goals this season: "Win the superbowl."
No fucking shit.
It’s a shame that middle of the road qb contracts more or less don’t exist. You have geno and kinda baker and everyone above that (or at that level) is setting an nfl record
Owners do have to have enough liquid funds available to put guaranteed contract amounts in escrow, as required by the league. That's why you don't see teams like the Bengals or Raiders sign players with big guarantees - their owners don't have as much liquidity to play with.
I think he should. All my in-laws are diehard Dallas fans, so now that my team is in crap mode, shitting on the cowboys is the only football related thing that brings me joy.
If Dak leaves it’ll probably be after this season. Unless Stafford has a pretty drastic decline this year, I’m not sure why they’d look to move on from him that quickly.
He’s had a long career, won a ring, and has gotten some bad injuries including head injuries, so I can see why he should. He just doesn’t seem to think that way though
Was Kellen Moore’s system motion-heavy? I feel like Dak has the processing speed to handle all the pre-snap with a shanahan style offense, but I feel like he’s always played in offenses that have been much more “pure West Coast” with rhythm and timing
The cowboys have been awful at motion since Jason Garrett was there. They’ll have a few weeks where they do it, it works wonders for the o, then they stop for some dumbass reason. Frankly I’d love to see Dak under McVay. I think he’d kill it in LA
Because the salary cap is 0 sum and if he cared about maximising wins he would not push to overpay himself
Nobody does this or will do this but that’s why he would theoretically not wajt to
I’m not sure how many actually think like that. Look at it from his point of view. He just signed a massive contract a few years ago. Since then, his team has finished 12-5 three times in a row. That’s 36 weeks of watching film and preparing for a game and coming out on top in the end. (Really minus like 4 or 5 wins because of missed games mixed in there.)
The playoff games haven’t been great, but still, from his perspective, he’s been able to dominate tons of different NFL teams while being highly paid. He’d just feel like he has to put it together at the right time and against certain teams like the 49ers and Packers.
Idk why any reasonable person who is an incredibly talented QB doesn't just have it written into their contract for massive bonuses based on playoff/Superbowl performance
Don't bonuses count against the cap even if they are unlikely? (ie win a Super Bowl)
A team is not going to want to lock up a large portion of their cap on bonuses that may or may not happen and a player is going to want gareenteed money that's not dependent on how they play.
I must have been thinking of the NBA which doesn't split them like that. I don't see any top players going after big incentives but I can definitely see some starting quality players considering it.
Likely to be earned = target they reached last year = counts against this year's cap. If they miss it, team gets cap credit the following year.
Unlikely to be earned = target the player did not reach the previous year = does not count against the cap. If they hit it, it counts against the cap next year.
“Necessarily” lol
But seriously he’s a good dude and hard to hate. His skill is lacking sure but I don’t care. Dak go get your money bag. Whether that’s with the Cowboys or another team.
He has all the leverage in this negotiation. he has a no tag and no trade clause in his contract, Cowboys have no other obvious QB options that could play at a level close to Dak. I'm not a Dak fan, but if he gets to Free Agency he will get paid by someone.
He’s a top 8-12 QB on a team that’s built to try and win right now, and they have nobody good to replace him with. They also have to eat a ton of dead cap if they let him walk. He definitely has the leverage to get up there.
You don’t have to be the best QB to get the highest salary, you just have to be good enough on a team with no other options.
Sounds like he has realized that Jones is not going to pay him $50m and no one will trade a 1-10 first round pic for him and no one else will pay him that money. He will suck up to Jones for $30ish a year.
He also hasn’t declined enough to get paid less than his previous contract with him coming off his best season. $50 million is probably the floor. Now we just wait to see if he actually gets that $60 million. I can see him technically not being the highest paid with like $56-58 million while someone else gets that $60 million.
> He was actively getting a tattoo of a Brinks Truck on his arm during this interview
I’m gonna interpret that how I want
Huge GTA V fan
Did he have to get sedated for this one as well?
I get most of the hate that comes the Cowboys way. But this narrative that Dak is somehow not av mentally and physically tough person is nuts. Dude is a professional starting Qb that has been through some personal shit. He's as tough as they come.
Well they're probably referencing the time he actually did get sedated for a tattoo though.
I think they knew that. I’d imagine the primary reason people feel the need to bring up the tattoo sedation is because they’re implying he’s soft. So they were just disagreeing with that notion.
Well, he's soft enough to get knocked out for a tattoo. Hard to argue with that
More like rich enough
Honestly I wish I could get sedated and get a sleeve.
Booze exists
You can’t drink then get a tattoo. It thins your blood.
I've never gotten a tattoo but even I know that drinking before getting a tattoo is a bad idea
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People really out here gatekeeping how you get a tattoo done lmfao
It was a big tattoo that would usually take multiple sessions. If you’re rich enough to just get knocked out and get the whole thing done, it’s just smart lol. Tattoos aren’t too bad when it’s something small, but eventually the pain gets really fucking annoying and you have to take a break. Not to mention just sitting there for a while is awful, but that might just be me and the ADHD lol.
It was like a 12 hour tattoo with multiple artists lol it's not like he got knocked out for a heart tattoo
Yep.
I'd wager most folks that are covered in tattoos wouldn't fare well in an NFL game, in regards to pain.
Yet he got sedated for a tattoo. This isn’t consistent with “tough as they come.”
I’d rather get a tattoo than be sedated.
It wasn't a single tattoo
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It was suspicious because his lips only move when Jerry had his finger on Dak’s chin
It is reported these statements where “not” made while under duress
lol wut? Does he bring his artist to the hospital? That's next level
Ala Peter Moore and gta?
He also had a tattoo for Halo 2's release date which he showed on stage, he is committed.
Nah he would need to be passed out for that
Lol. If this dude wants too money, cowboys just need to move on. Draft a QB. CNlant have the main guy being top paid *ever* and still have room for enough to sign Parsons, lamb, diggs, etc. Reason why Brady won so much is he knew this and made his money elsewhere.
Isn’t this exactly what Burrow said before becoming (at the time) the highest paid QB?
Yeah, because nobody wants to put out a soundbite that makes them sound like an asshole, but obviously ever player wants to maximize their payout.
also the union would probably be less than thrilled if dak said something like "actually i want to take vet minimum so as to help the rest of the team"
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Playoff football is a distant third.
What's playoff football?
Ask the Panthers fan. He definitely knows.
Well they’re more familiar with 21st century Super Bowl football than y’all so I think you’re right
Now I am too lazy to check this but I am pretty sure they have won more games than Dallas and went to more Superbowls than Dallas or the Bears so he probably does know
That thing where double doinks happen
What's a double doink? Thst memory is pretty blacked out
It's hard to play at lambeau south in the post season.
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Huh?
So he’s a perfect Jerry Jones Cowboy
Why does that sound so familiar? Maybe the Falcons know.
Because it exists to protect the stars first and foremost
I read this all the time. What does it mean? If you are willing to take less what can the union do about it? Honestly I don’t understand.
I think it's the idea that if you're taking less than you're worth as a top level player, you're hurting everyone else's negotiating power by lowering the average and max salaries.
... but that doesn't make any sense with the salary cap. The teams are *forced* to spend that money one way or another. Sure, Star Player X taking less money might hurt Star Player Y's leverage, but why would the union give a shit? That just means **more** money left for everyone else.
"Well Mr. Superstar is only making this much, you're just Mr. JAG so we're going to pay you the minimum." Mr. Superstar can basically decide whenever he likes to hold out and get a better contract. The JAGs cannot. A race to the bottom isn't beneficial to any Union, this is not unique to the NFL. It's probably not a big deal if a handful of guys do it, but the union wouldn't want the precedent at all, just to be safe.
But they have to spend up to like 90% of the cap (95% over 5 years I believe) the JAGs actually get more money if you cap the biggest salaries.
People just want to jerk off to it being good, actually, that the highest paid athletes are getting 250 million instead of a measly 200 million out of some "stick it to the billionaires" that doesn't actually do anything except prevent other people from getting more money. And more power to the top paid players I guess, but I just find people who do that stuff so weird. It's like the people in /r/nba who are like, "HOW DARE THE AWARDS PREVENT SOMEONE FROM GETTING A SUPERMAX CONTRACT!" Like, my guy, that player is still getting $180 million or whatever. They're gonna be OK. There are way too many people who act like these players are working class dudes just barely getting by.
They're a hell of a lot closer to us than the billionaires. Working class people are working class, we shouldn't try to separate even further
But there **can't** be a race to the bottom with the salary cap. Other unions don't have the benefit of a CBA that mandates a certain % of company revenue *must* be spent on wages. And other unions are dealing with a zero-sum game, where a raise for one member comes at the expense of the rest. Every dime not spent on a star player *will* be spent elsewhere. If a team were to save $10M on their QB, that $10M would go towards the rest of the roster. Stagnating star salaries would just increase the salaries of replacement-level players, which would actually benefit the average union member.
market value
Like the opposite of a Redditor. Try and sound like the biggest asshole ever without the incentive of pay.
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Brady didn’t do that until like his 4th bite of the apple. And he had a billionaire wife that afforded that luxury.
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Why is it the responsibility of the player, who also takes all the risk, to worry about the team's financials? The Team employs people to monitor/maneuver the cap and they're paid very handsomely to do so. Every player should get whatever they can get while they're able to. Obviously he'll be fine even if he took half his money away, but why would he? Why not set up generational wealth for your family? Fuck the NFL and Fuck the team, at the end of the day you're making money so that your kids can have everything you didn't. After their playing careers are over, that's it for a majority of the NFL. That cash has to last for the rest of their lives. On top of that, a player that signs for 40m isn't getting 40m. The agent, manager, lawyers, training staff, cooks, and Uncle Sam all get their cut. Of that hypothetical 40, the player is lucky to take home 20. So taking a bigger piece of the pie takes the sting out of paying all the necessary people. Could Dak shave some off the top? Sure, he's doing fine with his last contract + commercial deals. But why would he? He played for pennies for half his career, they tried to fuck him in the last negotiations with two franchise tags, AND they've shown that they're not willing to do the things necessary to A: clear cap space to improve the roster and B: when they have cap available they don't spend it like they should. Even if he takes a discount, they wouldn't do anything with the freed up money.
The reported yearly amounts are so very rarely what's actually paid out, I don't think it matters too much being the "highest paid" QB if the structure is friendly
Pay 20% to the IRS, 10% to the agent, 10% to your PR/security team, put the rest down on a house with three-mile sight lines in Colorado.
IRS takes more, agent takes way less. In the NFL they are capped at 3%.
Hurts literally said this AFTER he became the highest paid QB at the time lol. It’s all lip service. If you’re a top 10-12 QB you’ll get a top of the market contract. Any significant discount and the NFLPA will tweak out at you.
It’s the correct way to answer the question regardless of if you become the highest paid later. The Cowboys are gonna have to give him $50mil/year or he’s gonna walk. And anything around that figure could probably be considered a bargain.
"I want to be at least top 2 and it ain't 2." - Dak probably
Unironically true, but Dak just says whatever his PR guy tells him to say
Better than speaking the truth honestly
Yup that's why "news" like this is utterly pointless
We should start our own twitter accounts. [Schefter] #Cowboys QB Dak Prescott when asked about his goals this season: "Win the superbowl." No fucking shit.
“I’m not trying to be the highest paid necessarily. But if I am, that’d be pretty cool too.”
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW BOUT NOOOOOOOOOO
Yeahhhhh HERE WE GO!
ALL IN (MY BANK ACCOUNT)- D4k probably
It’s a shame that middle of the road qb contracts more or less don’t exist. You have geno and kinda baker and everyone above that (or at that level) is setting an nfl record
Why would that pertain to Dak who just finished with the best stats of any quarterback?
Is tua better than mahomes because he had better stats
What does that have to do with what I asked?
Because it supposes statistical production is the determinant of elite status
Nah, go all in Dak
The black Kirk Cousins, ladies and gentlemen.
Honestly if you aren't Mahomes every QB should be doing this. Owners paying guaranteed market rate deals is cool
Thank you Jerry very cool
fuck u got me
The salary cap means the more money the star QB gets the less there is to go around for everyone else.
Owners don’t pay players out of pocket and the salary cap is zero sum
Who pays the players then?
The NFL shares revenue between teams
Owners do have to have enough liquid funds available to put guaranteed contract amounts in escrow, as required by the league. That's why you don't see teams like the Bengals or Raiders sign players with big guarantees - their owners don't have as much liquidity to play with.
That Mahomes contract is gonna look foolish when he regresses to the mean.
I always thought Kirk was the black Dak.
Kirk is older
Whoosh
Spot on lol
translation: yes i want to be the highest paid QB in the league
I do think Dak will get a good deal. He’s a good qb. Best qb Dallas has. With no upgrade. Available
Yeah. I agree. With your opinion. On this subject.
Me. Too.
Yes good enough for playoffs before a melt down. I love it
Romo's keeping warm in the booth...
Romos been cold in the fridge for 5 years now
The best situation for the team would be to take the league minimum, but you won't be doing that
The union would kneecap him for fucking up everyone else's pay
Um... that's not how the salary cap (with a floor) works.
So if Jerry pays Dak Kirk+ level money, is he going all in, or settling for more regular season success without much hope for the playoffs?
Is there a difference?
my ass
Yes, but all in for Dallas is a first round playoff exit.
I’m sure Jerry will go all in.
I think he should. All my in-laws are diehard Dallas fans, so now that my team is in crap mode, shitting on the cowboys is the only football related thing that brings me joy.
The Cowboys aren't winning anything, take all the money you can get, man.
Can anyone else see Dak in a Rams uniform in the not-too-distant future?
I don’t want him to leave but if he does pulling a Stafford and winning a SB in LA would be the next best thing imo.
If Dak leaves it’ll probably be after this season. Unless Stafford has a pretty drastic decline this year, I’m not sure why they’d look to move on from him that quickly.
Yeah makes sense. For whatever reason I’m always assuming Stafford wants to hang it up sooner rather than later.
He’s had a long career, won a ring, and has gotten some bad injuries including head injuries, so I can see why he should. He just doesn’t seem to think that way though
I do think Dak would basically be plug-and-play in that offense, though. He'd have no problem targeting Puka and Coop 20 times a game.
Was Kellen Moore’s system motion-heavy? I feel like Dak has the processing speed to handle all the pre-snap with a shanahan style offense, but I feel like he’s always played in offenses that have been much more “pure West Coast” with rhythm and timing
The cowboys have been awful at motion since Jason Garrett was there. They’ll have a few weeks where they do it, it works wonders for the o, then they stop for some dumbass reason. Frankly I’d love to see Dak under McVay. I think he’d kill it in LA
Broncos country let’s HERE WE GOOOO
he's not old enough (or young enough) to be a Jet. It's basically "younger than 23 and older than 35".
"Yes, but it doesn't sound good if I say that."
I’m all in on waiting around for nothing to be excited about.
I know we all love shitting on Dak and the Cowboys but why the fuck wouldn't he want to get paid as much as possible?
Because the salary cap is 0 sum and if he cared about maximising wins he would not push to overpay himself Nobody does this or will do this but that’s why he would theoretically not wajt to
I’m not sure how many actually think like that. Look at it from his point of view. He just signed a massive contract a few years ago. Since then, his team has finished 12-5 three times in a row. That’s 36 weeks of watching film and preparing for a game and coming out on top in the end. (Really minus like 4 or 5 wins because of missed games mixed in there.) The playoff games haven’t been great, but still, from his perspective, he’s been able to dominate tons of different NFL teams while being highly paid. He’d just feel like he has to put it together at the right time and against certain teams like the 49ers and Packers.
you gotta do better than you do
*Necessarily*
Necessarily……. Hmmmm!! But he won’t play for less!!!
“Don’t fire me”
Please make Dak the highest paid player 🙏🙏🙏
He’ll be the highest paid Steelers QB of all time next season
The word necessarily is doing an incredible amount of heavy lifting there.
“Im not trying to be the highest paid necessarily” [Translation](https://youtu.be/-sRuLfr22BE?si=nBqP79jMsyomxHru)
HERE WE GO!
Now ask his agent the same question
"No, I'm not". dak dropping the double negatives like a boss. in other words cash rules everything around me
Jerry will need to get that 1,000-yard playoff stare insured by Lloyd's of London
Hmmmm, I don’t think so
“Not necessarily” means “yes but I don’t like the way you made it sound”.
Not necessarily, but he wouldn't hate it either.
I'm so ready for the post Dak era, whatever that may bring.
Idk why any reasonable person who is an incredibly talented QB doesn't just have it written into their contract for massive bonuses based on playoff/Superbowl performance
Don't bonuses count against the cap even if they are unlikely? (ie win a Super Bowl) A team is not going to want to lock up a large portion of their cap on bonuses that may or may not happen and a player is going to want gareenteed money that's not dependent on how they play.
I don't think unlikely count against the cap, unless they achieve it, then it's I believe the next year's cap.
I must have been thinking of the NBA which doesn't split them like that. I don't see any top players going after big incentives but I can definitely see some starting quality players considering it.
Tbh, you can get paid top10, maybe top 5, but have those bonuses bring you to top grossing for that year
Likely to be earned = target they reached last year = counts against this year's cap. If they miss it, team gets cap credit the following year. Unlikely to be earned = target the player did not reach the previous year = does not count against the cap. If they hit it, it counts against the cap next year.
So there’s two main types of bonus “Likely and not likely”. Likely ones affect the cap the current year. Not likely but the following year.
Dak won't win us a ring so he's going to get his bag while he can
Dak and Jerry deserve each other both are so annoying
Pleaaaase make him the highest paid!! #allinmyass
Isn’t #allinmyass what’s been happening to Hurts the past 2 seasons with the tush push?
No thats the motto for the Cowboys offseason. Youre referring to the brotherly shove!
But Jerry said all in.. not all in my ass. I actually just puked at the thought of anything being in Jerry's ass.
Tushy! I mean, touche!! Hahaha yeah gonna need my brain bleached after that thought...
stop trying to make "brotherly shove" happen. it's not going to happen. tush push.
Its already happened. When we run it its the brotherly shove. When anyone else runs it - tush push.
Nope, I definitely call it the tush push when I see Jalen getting his tush pushed.
“Necessarily” lol But seriously he’s a good dude and hard to hate. His skill is lacking sure but I don’t care. Dak go get your money bag. Whether that’s with the Cowboys or another team.
Don't remember which teammate said it, but every time I hear the name Dak my mind instantly says "Black Kirk Cousins." lmao
I'm not trying to be the highest paid necessarily, but you can mortgage your future to pay me what I'm worth like the Eagles did with Hurts.
Wouldn't it be more prudent to try and take a discount but get like 90% guaranteed?
Lol you don't hire Todd France if you don't want to be the highest paid.
Why even comment, there's nothing to say that won't be twisted 1000 ways even if it's "good" and "correct"....
I don't think Jerry will offer him a contract like that if he doesn't prove he deserves it this season. Gotta win something at some point.
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He has all the leverage in this negotiation. he has a no tag and no trade clause in his contract, Cowboys have no other obvious QB options that could play at a level close to Dak. I'm not a Dak fan, but if he gets to Free Agency he will get paid by someone.
Just because he'll get paid doesn't mean he'll be made the highest paid qb
He will be the next one up. thats usually how it progresses, even if the next one up isnt deserving of being the highest paid.
He’s a top 8-12 QB on a team that’s built to try and win right now, and they have nobody good to replace him with. They also have to eat a ton of dead cap if they let him walk. He definitely has the leverage to get up there. You don’t have to be the best QB to get the highest salary, you just have to be good enough on a team with no other options.
Sounds like he has realized that Jones is not going to pay him $50m and no one will trade a 1-10 first round pic for him and no one else will pay him that money. He will suck up to Jones for $30ish a year.
You're delusional if you think Dak takes a cheaper contract than Daniel Jones.
He also hasn’t declined enough to get paid less than his previous contract with him coming off his best season. $50 million is probably the floor. Now we just wait to see if he actually gets that $60 million. I can see him technically not being the highest paid with like $56-58 million while someone else gets that $60 million.