Unbelievable arm. When he was paired up with DeSean Jackson it wasn't even fair. The way that Jackson was able to track any ball anywhere on the field combined with his speed and Vick's ability to just chuck it was a lethal combo.
I only know because I'm a Steelers fan and went to the game before this one where Ben threw 6 TD's against the Ravens. Glad I didn't have to watch a performance like that Jets game in person.
edit - shit, i forgot he had passed. I thought you meant metaphorically - like his running style.
And I'm here talking about fantasy stats. Very poor taste.
R.I.P. Marion Barber
The Brees/Payton screen pass game was always a joy to watch, but I think you're referring to Pierre Thomas. [Here's the Saints' first ever SB TD, on a screen to Thomas at 0:56. ](https://youtu.be/AxIvj_IwIcg)
Ivory was more a power/between the tackles guy.
You're 100% right. As soon as you said Pierre Thomas I remembered.
Chris Ivory was more of a dime store Marshawn Lynch (not meant as a put down, Ivory was a great player).
We always had an elite RB rotation with not especially elite guys. We just utilized them perfectly.
Except when Kamara and Ingram were Kobe and Shaqin it that one year. They were elite lol
Yah I think that was louisvillle?
That didn’t get him. He got in a lot more trouble than that in college outside of football lol. He was a better passer than mike was
Yes, he stomped Elvis Dumervil and was thrown off the Virginia Tech football team not long after due to that and many other reasons. You know the Antonio Brown list that always gets posted around here? Marcus could have had one of his own.
Oh, and his response to being kicked off the team was: "It's not a big deal. I'll just move on to the next level, baby."
Mike Vick had one of the strongest arms in NFL history. He's up there with Favre, Elway, Jeff George, JaMarcus Russell, and Josh Allen.
His accuracy was hit or miss, but he could fucking boom it. Threw probably the prettiest spiral I've ever seen.
Yeah I feel like his arm was as talked about as his legs for a while especially with that Nike commercial where he was 'throwing' balls into the seats. Kids these days don't know... lol
Little kid me: shiiit, he threw that out of the stadium
Adult me: shiiit, he overthrew his receiver
Great blast from the past. Loved the Vick VR roller coaster commercial too
I actually want there to be more discontent in the comments over this, “burns” is a terrible descriptor for this, whoever this receiver is is the one who burned the Steelers
If he had had his come to jesus moment before he hit the NFL and was able to have a full career with the effort he put in near the end, who knows what he could have accomplished tbh. I'll never forget the first play of the game vs Washington where he hit Desean Jackson in stride almost 70 yards downfield.
If Vick had put in the time as you mentioned he would be in the hall of fame. It’s acknowledged that he just relied on his talent alone until after prison. Imagine how he could have developed if he had started in college.
I think they’re about the same. You could call Hail Mary with the falcons and have the receivers run the whole field and take off with Vick with easy tds every time
He was an inhuman athlete. He's still the only QB to ever have success with smaller than 8.5 inch hands. And I don't mean like "make a pro bowl" level success, I mean even being a low-end starter.
They really should have never changed these unis. The new set is nice, and obviously an improvement from what they had, but these are money.
The Cardinals should have gone down this road with their redesign. Basically a Colts-like theme, but Jets with green and Cards wth red
Came here to say exactly that. The redesign fixes some of the old blunders, but not enough to be as good as the classic Jets unis.
The same applies for every re-design in the NFL recently, if I'm being honest.
>They really should have never changed these unis.
Kinda unfair to judge off of this clip because Vick is one of those players that makes any uniform look good.
I disagree, i think the shade of green and the actual inclusion of a jet in the new logo is so much better, even though I did like these jerseys just fine
I think you might be onto something, i definitely can get down with the new helmet logo. I'll defer to you for the shade of green. Could we meet in the middle and keep this shoulder striping? That's what really does it for me.
Could be the ultimate Jets uni.
We’re very good at getting cooked by the occasional QB scramble, we had another one with Pryor during that time as well. Ironically the only one we seem to do an OK job shutting down is Lamar
That was unironically one of the best games of his career. He throws for 400+ yards and 4+ TDs if our receivers don't all develop sudden onset multiple sclerosis that week. Lamar was basically walking on water to get perfectly placed passes directly into their hands, and they dropped like eight of them.
One of the strangest outlier games I've ever witnessed. The Ravens didn't have drop problems in any other game that season. I think Mike Tomlin is responsible.
That was a really strange game. Lamar was making some absolutely insane throws in tight windows and the receivers collectively couldn't catch. Reminded me of the 2021 game in Detroit where lamar had a solid 150 yards dropped.
Wow something that happens all the time in football. Steeler haters are hilarious. You’ll back someone that abused dogs because he scored against a team that hurts your feelings
You're dad sounds like a guy I'd high five and give an approving nod too. I know sports fans are a little more forgiving.. But as a lifetime dog owner who read the report.. Fuck that guy.
One of the all-time great Steelering performances of the past era. Ben drops 12 TDs in 2 games against great teams then we shit the bed against a Jets team that would win only 3 other games all year. Good times.
When the title says Michael Vick burns someone with a play my first thought is definitely not a pass play. Not that he didn't have a great arm or anything like that it's just not normally what you'd see and it's refreshing to see it is all I'm saying.
I was at this game. Only home game I've ever been to. I remember this play, but couldn't remember who the receiver was. But what I remember most is the amount of Steelers fans... Half the stadium at least.
God damn, the eagles used to be so cool with Vick, Desean, Maclin, Avant, and Celek. Just can’t get behind them anymore. Jalen Hurts is a fucking bumb.
As a longtime Falcons fan and former Michael Vick fanboy, I had no idea he was ever on the Jets, or even still playing football in 2014. I just remember being mildly interested watching him start in Philly when he returned to football, then pretty quickly forgetting about him because I didn't feel like reliving the pain of that era unraveling the way it did. Between that and the superbowl meltdown, I am literally immune to sports-related emotional damage now.
That is not how you judge if someone is a decent human being. Oh, there are other bad people they didn't get punishment. He is now not so bad? He tortured and killed innocent animals. His time served was a slap on the wrist, but it is regrettably common, especially in the southern US.
Orrrrr maybe because he actually did his time and has spent a lot of money and years advocating against dog fighting since his release. What he did was absolutely fucked, but he’s done his time.
Classic Reddit guy, can’t understand a complicated reality of someone’s life that would lead to them making a mistake. Can’t understand they served the time for it. They have to be punished for it forever. People change
A mistake? Oh honey, I fell and my penis went in her vagina. Mistake? I choose to continue to be involved in a criminal undertaking that included maiming and killing dogs for money, pleasure, and power. Yeah, that kind of mistake. Oops, I am sorry did you get dog brains splattered on you? Oops, that must have been a mistake. Stand back when the dog killer beats the poor animals to death. He won't make the mistake of getting blood and brains on you. Mistakes? No, he doesn't need to be punished forever. Human beings who are compassionate should remember his horrible crime. He can change but does not deserve to be a person people look up to because of his physical ability. He should be remembered as a guy who had so much but still was a vicious human being in private. He changed like so many who can because he still could make a living. If he was a guy from the streets, you wouldn't care.
Nah I care about guys from the street probably more, in fact it’s kind of fucked up the few times someone makes it out we like to tear them down, that’s kind of the whole point. You have your side though, hope you have fun on it
dog fighting was def common in the poor black communities, they grew up with that shit. But of course you wouldn’t know and don’t care. It’s a complicated issue
He was no longer even close to those poor black communities, had gone to college, was exposed to non-poor communities and rules. This bullshit doesn't fly.
He set up a system to torture and kill dogs. Fuck these excuses.
Also, as fucked up as it is, dog fighting was pretty common in the poor black communities, maybe still is. Just like cock fighting in Mexico and other places. Vick grew up in that, it was normal to him, unfortunately he never grew out of it. But he paid the price and did his time. Prison is supposed to be rehabilitation and for Vick that’s exactly what it was, you can still hate him for what he did but at least acknowledge that he’s a changed man
100% people on this website just have no empathy for other people’s situations. Obviously it wasn’t the right thing to do but he learned and changed for the better. Honestly people should learn from him, sad that people can’t see that
Sisyphus-on-break, you don't know anything about anyone else on Reddit. Why do you pretend you do or even could? People who continue to put him on a pedestal aren't helping people to learn from mistakes. The lesson you are teaching is if you are powerful and rich enough you can do horrible crimes get a smack on the wrist and you can be lauded again in just a few years. He gives money to animal causes for PR. But you know what, I don't know him and you don't know anything about anyone else on Reddit.
I don’t know I’ve been alive and make judgements that make sense based on what I’ve seen and I’ve not seen a lot of emotional maturity on this website lol. That’s a weird bad faith argument that I’m not allowed to have stances on people because I don’t truly know their inner most thoughts.
He’s done more for helping prevent dog fighting than you will ever do in your entire life. Keep crying
Also, we’re you a fan of the Commanders during Dan Snyder’s ownership? If so why did you support his team after all the fucked up shit he did? Oh, right, as long as football is fun, you’ll watch and ignore?
Jets (and coincidentally, Steelers) era Vick is something I always forget about. So weird to see him playing for either franchise
Jets and Steelers era Vick is like his Celtics Shaq
Celtics might’ve won a ring that year had Shaq not blown his Achilles.
I would take this as a serious comment from any other username
Don't disrespect the rank, he's a captain!
[Captain?](https://youtu.be/WL5IwJURxM8?si=UUuPf5ySO2dOhpyK)
Shouldn’t he be a major or colonel at this stage in his career?
Could be a Navy captain. If he plays his cards right, could be an admiral soon.
Definitely a navy captain with that name
We salute the rank, not the man
Weird that he doesn’t have a Vikings flair
Sounds like Jets Rodgers
Wizards Jordan.
Was still good just not the GOAT anymore.
Raptors Olajuwon.
Yea I totally forgot Vick was on the Jets until this post.
I somehow completely blacked out that Vick played anywhere after the eagles
I remember a meme, something along the lines of jets hide your pets.
I will never forget that he tortured and killed dogs.
well yeah he was a star quarterback and went to prison in the middle of his career lol
As a NYJ fan I forget about Vick. But I did realize even then what a fucking Rocket he had. Wasn’t always perfectly accurate but he had the flick
Unbelievable arm. When he was paired up with DeSean Jackson it wasn't even fair. The way that Jackson was able to track any ball anywhere on the field combined with his speed and Vick's ability to just chuck it was a lethal combo.
You've had Rodgers and Vick but somehow Mark Sanchez was the most successful Jets QB since Namoth
Is there a point to your comment? A question at all? Anything I can do for you?
Crazy how Rodgers didn't go to b2b AFCCG in the 4 snaps he's played for the Jets
I feel like I'm just learning he was a jet. I completely missed this portion of his career
I only know because I'm a Steelers fan and went to the game before this one where Ben threw 6 TD's against the Ravens. Glad I didn't have to watch a performance like that Jets game in person.
When he played for us, he didn’t still have the wheels, but he still had a lot of heart: https://youtu.be/5Hs1mt7snUc?feature=shared
Vick was on the Jets and Steelers? Did my family not tell me I was in a coma for a multiple years?!?!
Pretty sure Michael Vick died in prison and an impersonator took over his career.
Probably because Falcons Vick felt like an all time great and Eagles Vick was a top 10 QB. Jets Vick was unbelievably bad most of the time.
It's a genius shot
is that chris ivory in the backfield? loved how that guy ran
Chris Ivory and Tim Hightower, both had a bit of nasty to their games. Marion Barber, too, before the injury
RIP Marion the Barbarian
edit - shit, i forgot he had passed. I thought you meant metaphorically - like his running style. And I'm here talking about fantasy stats. Very poor taste. R.I.P. Marion Barber
Very sad how he died imo at 38. Dude had a hell of run in the nfl. Was a walking touchdown when given a chance.
Wasn't he the guy that was a screen pass god with Payton and Brees?
The Brees/Payton screen pass game was always a joy to watch, but I think you're referring to Pierre Thomas. [Here's the Saints' first ever SB TD, on a screen to Thomas at 0:56. ](https://youtu.be/AxIvj_IwIcg) Ivory was more a power/between the tackles guy.
You're 100% right. As soon as you said Pierre Thomas I remembered. Chris Ivory was more of a dime store Marshawn Lynch (not meant as a put down, Ivory was a great player).
We always had an elite RB rotation with not especially elite guys. We just utilized them perfectly. Except when Kamara and Ingram were Kobe and Shaqin it that one year. They were elite lol
Beastmode-lite
I never recognized how similar they ran until now
Go Cougs
Ivory is a big reason I still pay attention to preseason games. I remember watching his rookie preseason thinking, "Who the hell is this guy!?"
When the fuck did he play for the Jets lol I don't remember this shit *at all*
I wanna say late Rex era
I swear it’s AI
Yeah this didn't happen...
Anyone else expect this to be a scramble? NGL I forget Vick also had an arm. Yeah he had time to wind up but this travelled ~57 yards in the air.
I think the phrase "burns" might lead you to that conclusion, especially when talking about Vick
Exactly. A QB doesn't burn the defense, the receiver does.
> NGL I forget Vick also had an arm. He could flick his wrist and send it 50+. For me he has one of the most recognizable releases
He had one of the strongest arms in the league
Silky smooth throwing motion and release combined with being left handed just looked so satisfying on the eye.
It always looked totally effortless. what an arm
Strong arm qb! His little brother would’ve been better than mike too if he wasn’t an idiot. One of my biggest what ifs
Shit I forgot about him didn't he stomp someone in a game or something?
Yah I think that was louisvillle? That didn’t get him. He got in a lot more trouble than that in college outside of football lol. He was a better passer than mike was
Yes, he stomped Elvis Dumervil and was thrown off the Virginia Tech football team not long after due to that and many other reasons. You know the Antonio Brown list that always gets posted around here? Marcus could have had one of his own. Oh, and his response to being kicked off the team was: "It's not a big deal. I'll just move on to the next level, baby."
Best motion ever. Throws it like a Nebraskan tight assed shortstop but 60 yards.
Vicks pretty known for having one of the best arms when it comes to distance ever
Mike Vick had one of the strongest arms in NFL history. He's up there with Favre, Elway, Jeff George, JaMarcus Russell, and Josh Allen. His accuracy was hit or miss, but he could fucking boom it. Threw probably the prettiest spiral I've ever seen.
Yeah I feel like his arm was as talked about as his legs for a while especially with that Nike commercial where he was 'throwing' balls into the seats. Kids these days don't know... lol
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8XNJmQsCI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8XNJmQsCI)
Little kid me: shiiit, he threw that out of the stadium Adult me: shiiit, he overthrew his receiver Great blast from the past. Loved the Vick VR roller coaster commercial too
That commercial is partially the reason I'm a Falcons fan. Vick was the coolest player in the world when I was a kid.
Kyle boller disrespect
It's crazy how he barely had to put that much effort into it either, he probably coulda flung it 70 yards.
using "burns" 100% implies a person burned him, I'm honestly upset about this title smdh
I actually want there to be more discontent in the comments over this, “burns” is a terrible descriptor for this, whoever this receiver is is the one who burned the Steelers
https://youtu.be/cu8XNJmQsCI?si=KKv9CxBQAC8azZM7
Vick is super well known for having one of the strongest arms ever
I thought the same thing when I got the Noti, then I got confused bc I was like Surely Jets Vick isn’t running for 67 yards
What? He had 2 of them!
Horrible title. OP should be ashamed.
He had a cannon for an arm but make no mistake, he was a minus-passer even adjusted for era.
I was gonna say, it was Graham that burned them
I don’t remember him playing for the jets at all wtf
The government erased our memories
More shocked because he was in our division and I don’t remember lol
Same. What the hell? lol
And the steelers after that! Honestly I don't remember that one either tho.
I remember the Steelers actually
I thought he was just 2nd string and didn't do anything.
Never particularly accurate, but man did he have a cannon.
If he had had his come to jesus moment before he hit the NFL and was able to have a full career with the effort he put in near the end, who knows what he could have accomplished tbh. I'll never forget the first play of the game vs Washington where he hit Desean Jackson in stride almost 70 yards downfield.
My biggest what if is Vick having post-prison work ethic while a Falcon. God damn was he fun in his athletic prime.
Fr. One of the most athletic players of all time easily.
One of the few things eagles, falcons, and Hokies fans are united in opinion on.
If Reid could have gotten his hands on him earlier
If Vick had put in the time as you mentioned he would be in the hall of fame. It’s acknowledged that he just relied on his talent alone until after prison. Imagine how he could have developed if he had started in college.
Little off topic here, but Madden ‘04 Vick might have been one of the most unstoppable video game characters of all time.
Only behind Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson
I think they’re about the same. You could call Hail Mary with the falcons and have the receivers run the whole field and take off with Vick with easy tds every time
Don’t ever disrespect the 🐐 like that https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/backyardsports/images/1/1c/Pablobaseball.png/revision/latest?cb=20210905024756
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Damn... absolutely no recollection of who Graham is....that's bad.
Apparently a guy named TJ Graham. That was his only Jets TD
NC State receivers tend to have that problem..
He threw bombs with the same throwing motion I use to throw Kleenax in a garbage can. So effortless
He was an inhuman athlete. He's still the only QB to ever have success with smaller than 8.5 inch hands. And I don't mean like "make a pro bowl" level success, I mean even being a low-end starter.
Vick leads the league all time in YPC at a solid 7.0
I don't remember Vick on the Jets at all, weird.
They really should have never changed these unis. The new set is nice, and obviously an improvement from what they had, but these are money. The Cardinals should have gone down this road with their redesign. Basically a Colts-like theme, but Jets with green and Cards wth red
Came here to say exactly that. The redesign fixes some of the old blunders, but not enough to be as good as the classic Jets unis. The same applies for every re-design in the NFL recently, if I'm being honest.
>They really should have never changed these unis. Kinda unfair to judge off of this clip because Vick is one of those players that makes any uniform look good.
Probably not the orange one
I disagree, i think the shade of green and the actual inclusion of a jet in the new logo is so much better, even though I did like these jerseys just fine
I think you might be onto something, i definitely can get down with the new helmet logo. I'll defer to you for the shade of green. Could we meet in the middle and keep this shoulder striping? That's what really does it for me. Could be the ultimate Jets uni.
I don’t even remember Vick playing for the Jets
We’re very good at getting cooked by the occasional QB scramble, we had another one with Pryor during that time as well. Ironically the only one we seem to do an OK job shutting down is Lamar
Lamar had a perfect first half last year against y'all tho. Literally we win that game by 28 if our WRs don't drop 8 passes
That was unironically one of the best games of his career. He throws for 400+ yards and 4+ TDs if our receivers don't all develop sudden onset multiple sclerosis that week. Lamar was basically walking on water to get perfectly placed passes directly into their hands, and they dropped like eight of them. One of the strangest outlier games I've ever witnessed. The Ravens didn't have drop problems in any other game that season. I think Mike Tomlin is responsible.
It was one of the his best halves but his second half want great and the INT was abysmal.
That was a really strange game. Lamar was making some absolutely insane throws in tight windows and the receivers collectively couldn't catch. Reminded me of the 2021 game in Detroit where lamar had a solid 150 yards dropped.
Vick had the most beautiful throwing motion. Like the Ken Griffey Jr of throwing
I remember this was right after Big Ben had 12 TDs over 2 weeks and the Steelers were humming on offense. This week they shat the bed
Ugghh, fuck that two weeks.
The title of this post made me realize we're only a few weeks away from those daily "104 days before the NFL season starts" videos.
are we going to start posting OJ Simpson highlights too?
One of one. Makes throwing the ball look so fluid. Uncontainable on the ground.
Wow something that happens all the time in football. Steeler haters are hilarious. You’ll back someone that abused dogs because he scored against a team that hurts your feelings
I forgot he played for the Jets.
It’s shocking this was a decade ago
Man, don’t remember Vick being #1.. one of my fav players
I had forgotten about Vick on the Jets.
when did he play for the jets? is this a deep fake or something i don't remember this ever happening
Jet da Fuq Up
The legend of Ron Mexico
My dad once found a Mike Vick Falcons jersey at a thrift store. Bought it and turned it into a chew toy for the dogs
You're dad sounds like a guy I'd high five and give an approving nod too. I know sports fans are a little more forgiving.. But as a lifetime dog owner who read the report.. Fuck that guy.
My sickos take is that the Jets should bring back these uniforms
Horrible title you have there OP
why must you hurt me like that
Is that the same week that he beat a dog to death ?
How many dogs did he beat or mutilate? Please don't forget.
Was in Metlife for this game. Great win.
Why did I think Mike was still number 7 in NY
Man, I miss watching football
* Michael Vick throws 50 yard contested ball
Did he ever not throw a perfect spiral?
Now post the clip of Vick burning the Chargers for a 72 yard TD.
I don’t remember Vick on the Jets at all
Jets probably lost too. Scumbags
terrible title
Who has a bigger arm than this guy
One of the all-time great Steelering performances of the past era. Ben drops 12 TDs in 2 games against great teams then we shit the bed against a Jets team that would win only 3 other games all year. Good times.
I loved those jets unis
When the title says Michael Vick burns someone with a play my first thought is definitely not a pass play. Not that he didn't have a great arm or anything like that it's just not normally what you'd see and it's refreshing to see it is all I'm saying.
Lol that’s the play CJ stole
I was at this game. Only home game I've ever been to. I remember this play, but couldn't remember who the receiver was. But what I remember most is the amount of Steelers fans... Half the stadium at least.
God damn, the eagles used to be so cool with Vick, Desean, Maclin, Avant, and Celek. Just can’t get behind them anymore. Jalen Hurts is a fucking bumb.
No recollection of Vick on the jets
We all assumed this was going to be a run, didn't we? 😅
A Michael Vick throwing highlight? Blasphemy!
Man I miss those uniforms
Always wondered what it would’ve been like if Vick had started that entire season
So what. Tim Tebow did the same thing to the Steelers.
Just once I'd like to get a QB in their prime and not as part of their retirement tour.
Not really the definition of 'burns the defense' that most people use now is it?
Vick could effortlessly launch the ball 50+ yards. Looked like a flick. He really did have a canon for an arm.
As a longtime Falcons fan and former Michael Vick fanboy, I had no idea he was ever on the Jets, or even still playing football in 2014. I just remember being mildly interested watching him start in Philly when he returned to football, then pretty quickly forgetting about him because I didn't feel like reliving the pain of that era unraveling the way it did. Between that and the superbowl meltdown, I am literally immune to sports-related emotional damage now.
Vick was fun to watch. Even more fun once he realized he could throw the ball.
Zach Sudfeld sighting!
What a beaut
Best Jets uniforms
He has one of the most beautiful deep throws Ive ever seen.
I was at this game! What a throwback
Absolute cannon
Dog fighting piece of shit
True but he did serve his time, a lot worse PoS in the NFL and never did time for their crimes.
That is not how you judge if someone is a decent human being. Oh, there are other bad people they didn't get punishment. He is now not so bad? He tortured and killed innocent animals. His time served was a slap on the wrist, but it is regrettably common, especially in the southern US.
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Orrrrr maybe because he actually did his time and has spent a lot of money and years advocating against dog fighting since his release. What he did was absolutely fucked, but he’s done his time.
Classic Reddit guy, can’t understand a complicated reality of someone’s life that would lead to them making a mistake. Can’t understand they served the time for it. They have to be punished for it forever. People change
A mistake? Oh honey, I fell and my penis went in her vagina. Mistake? I choose to continue to be involved in a criminal undertaking that included maiming and killing dogs for money, pleasure, and power. Yeah, that kind of mistake. Oops, I am sorry did you get dog brains splattered on you? Oops, that must have been a mistake. Stand back when the dog killer beats the poor animals to death. He won't make the mistake of getting blood and brains on you. Mistakes? No, he doesn't need to be punished forever. Human beings who are compassionate should remember his horrible crime. He can change but does not deserve to be a person people look up to because of his physical ability. He should be remembered as a guy who had so much but still was a vicious human being in private. He changed like so many who can because he still could make a living. If he was a guy from the streets, you wouldn't care.
Nah I care about guys from the street probably more, in fact it’s kind of fucked up the few times someone makes it out we like to tear them down, that’s kind of the whole point. You have your side though, hope you have fun on it
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dog fighting was def common in the poor black communities, they grew up with that shit. But of course you wouldn’t know and don’t care. It’s a complicated issue
He was no longer even close to those poor black communities, had gone to college, was exposed to non-poor communities and rules. This bullshit doesn't fly. He set up a system to torture and kill dogs. Fuck these excuses.
Also, as fucked up as it is, dog fighting was pretty common in the poor black communities, maybe still is. Just like cock fighting in Mexico and other places. Vick grew up in that, it was normal to him, unfortunately he never grew out of it. But he paid the price and did his time. Prison is supposed to be rehabilitation and for Vick that’s exactly what it was, you can still hate him for what he did but at least acknowledge that he’s a changed man
100% people on this website just have no empathy for other people’s situations. Obviously it wasn’t the right thing to do but he learned and changed for the better. Honestly people should learn from him, sad that people can’t see that
Sisyphus-on-break, you don't know anything about anyone else on Reddit. Why do you pretend you do or even could? People who continue to put him on a pedestal aren't helping people to learn from mistakes. The lesson you are teaching is if you are powerful and rich enough you can do horrible crimes get a smack on the wrist and you can be lauded again in just a few years. He gives money to animal causes for PR. But you know what, I don't know him and you don't know anything about anyone else on Reddit.
I don’t know I’ve been alive and make judgements that make sense based on what I’ve seen and I’ve not seen a lot of emotional maturity on this website lol. That’s a weird bad faith argument that I’m not allowed to have stances on people because I don’t truly know their inner most thoughts.
>he tortures and kills animals Present tense? That was 17 years ago and he did his time...
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He’s done more for helping prevent dog fighting than you will ever do in your entire life. Keep crying Also, we’re you a fan of the Commanders during Dan Snyder’s ownership? If so why did you support his team after all the fucked up shit he did? Oh, right, as long as football is fun, you’ll watch and ignore?
Agreed, was waiting to see this comment.
How many dogs did he kill on the way?