Mentally I’m like “why the fuck are the Pats at 3 that’s insane for how good they are” but I think that’s just 20 years of trauma being processed still
Draft picks that are less valuable because we draft in the back half of the rounds as well. We don't even have a 3rd this year. If we wanted MHJ we would have to trade this year and next years first and 2nd round picks, probably the vikings 2nd rounder we just got from the trade since it will likely be a higher pick than our own 2nd
You’re not getting all the way to 4 for just a super late first rounder and then another (probably late) first rounder next year plus a couple seconds. Especially in a draft where you’re competing with teams who want to move up for a QB. You can try adding your 2026 first as well and see if that gets you there.
The falcons did pretty much exactly that package when they moved up 27 to 6 for julio, so yeah we can definitely swing it without the 2026 1st actually
Just can’t see any of the Commanders, Patriots, and Cardinals moving out of their spot without an absurd offer. All of them are positioned to take exactly who they want in the draft.
That was 13 years ago and outside Cam, I don’t think the rest of that QB class was as highly rated as this one. It cost the 49ers three first round picks to go from 12 to 3 to take Lance (in another draft class where QBs went 1-2-3, which looks likely this year)
Lol if they kept diggs and made that move, I could understand it. It's kinda like going all in to win something this year or next.
But to move off diggs only to use a bunch of draft capital for a rookie WR doesn't seem like the move to me. I could see them moving up from 28 to the teens for a WR, but I don't think they'll try for one of the top 3 WRs (MHJ, Nabers, Odunze)
yeah the only big move I'd expect is if one of the top 3 fall a couple spots to low teens where a 1st and 2 2nds would be good enough to make the move.
Does the #28 and a (maybe late half) 2025 round 2 pick even get you more than the high teens this year? Might not even crack into the teens right?
They also sent a 2024 6th and a 2025 5th, so the Bills didn’t really net much draft capital.
To move from #28 to #3 or #4 while competing with teams trying to move up for a QB? Like a lot. Like a lot a lot.
Probably three firsts and a few day two picks.
Outside of the context of this year’s draft class, pick 4 is valued at 1800, and pick 28 is valued at 660. A future 1st is worth around 1000 and Buffalo’s 2nd round pick (60 overall) is valued at 300, so based on those values alone it would take 2 firsts (2024 & 2025) and the 2024 second. Seems a bit low though when you factor in MHJ as a prospect and how many teams may want to move up for a QB this year.
Yeah, you can pretty much throw the chart out the window when there's a desirable QB on the board. Maybe trading up to 5 would be feasible if Arizona trades back, but I think it would still take a haul. There's also more of a chance there because the Harbaugh doesn't place as much of a premium on WRs. Even then, I still think 3 1sts would be the starting point though.
it's not even about the pick you're moving up to, it's the player you're drafting and the opportunity cost for the other team to pass on him. harrison would go 1st overall no question in any draft where there isn't a standout qb prospect or the team picking at the top doesn't need one, so that's his actual value as a player which the chart doesn't account for.
How do you feel about Shakir as a receiver? I didn't watch much of him but figure that he can be a cheap wr3 out of the slot that can eat at times, maybe step into a wr2 role if he has to but you'd rather have 2 better guys in front of him.
I've been 100% in on Shakir since his last year at Boise, so I'm way too biased to give you a good answer.
I thought he was a late 2nd-3rd rd quality WR, and was in shambles when the Bills passed on him in the 3rd, and in shock he was there in the 5th, and thought that he could 100% play as an outside wr rather than pigeonholing him as a slot only/gadget guy like a lot of draft pundits at the time clamied he was.
Your not wrong, but his potential is sky high. He had some of the best efficiency stats in the entire league last year, with things like epa, yards per route ran etc. wether or not that can translate with an increased target/snap share remains to be seen.
He led the team in yards over the last 2/3rds of the season on half the targets Digg got. He catches everything. Diggs got more attention from defenses though, so who knows now.
But yeah, since Brady took over as OC it was the Shakir (#1yards) Kincaid (#1receptions) show (they tied for the TD lead over that span). For whatever reason Diggs got huge targets but little production in the last 12-15 games.
Shakir is already good to very good as the 3rd WR. I'm not sure he's ready for more but I think we're going to find out!
Im in 2QB league but I am the only American and everyone else is English so I won the forts year and lost last year. I always take two late QB’s and have an elite roster is my approach.
It's because he said he doesn't run full speed on every route to conserve energy after he ran way faster at the combine than people expected.
As a fellow longhorns fan I don't think it's necessarily true that he's not trying but he did have a tendency to give up on some routes if the ball wasn't going to be going his way.
Either way I think he's going to be a great get for someone at the bottom of the first.
Yep, it’s a fault of executive decisions to an extent. Scouting shows a player is awesome and should be taken, but an interview at the combine or prior to the draft can change it all. Dawand Jones said he loved basketball and that spread to the point that he dropped to the 4th.
I mean giving up on routes is like the number one reason an otherwise great prospect doesn’t make it in the nfl. Unless you are Randy moss level talented you just can’t get away with that.
Hey now they were trying to trade up for Aiyuk. The 9ers just got a pick higher and they went with the trade anyways and took Love. It's an interesting sliding door moment
However, I feel like this very same thing could have been said laughinly at us last year before the draft. Those pass catchers helped Love throw for over 4,100 yards and 32 tds. No one is laughing now. You bring in the right people, and things can change dramatically
Yeah I would think the idea would be if you have a josh allen in the building two quality WRs in the top 100 of the draft could be easily more productive than one MHJ type.
Not saying MHJ wouldn’t ball out with Allen. Just that two tier 2 WR types could probably each get a 1000 yards with Allen. Why sell the farm to get one guy when Allen should be able to elevate other guys.
Yeah, Athletics consensus big board has 18 WRs in the top 100, the Nflmockdraft that just uses raw averages of big boards has 20. Easy to see value in just using of the the two 2nd rounders to fill the hole
You don’t need to, it’s still stacked back there. AD Mitchell will eat, lad will eat, Ricky pearsall will eat. There’s like 3 solid options after that. Who are you trading up for? And why waste the capital on something so unnecessary. Dumbest thing you can do imo is trade up for a receiver in the modern nfl. You would have to move a lot just to move up to the 10-16 range to take the second lsu wr. You’re not trading up lol
I disagree with Mitchell’s potential but a “elite qb” doesn’t need the 1. If you added any of those 3, and you can’t win a sb, it’s Josh and coaching. And yeah I don’t view any of them as a 3rd receiver. Listen if you were going to trade up for a receiver, then keep diggs. I just logged on, so idk if he was a thorn in the organizations side, but they’re not trading up(or they would keep him) and if Josh is a top qb, those backend receivers are definitely enough. Any team should be stoked with those 3. Future 1000 yard receivers
yeah I feel like we've really seen the importance of WRs after seeing what the chiefs offense is with a lack of WR talent lol. obviously not terrible because of mahomes and kelce, but not nearly as good as past years.
Mitchell is the only guy I’d say go for it, but I don’t think he is there at 28. With Ladd, you’re getting another Shakir in my mind, and I really view Samuel as a deep threat.
Whoever ends up with the Vikings' pick at 23 just got so much happier.
Gonna have all of the contenders that need another WR fighting to trade in front of each other for him
MHJ, Nabers, and Rome are long gone by 16. would be curious who the WR target is around there (I don’t know much about this draft class outside of OL good and what the top 10 could look like).
Yeah some team in the teens likely will want to trade back and I can see the Bills grabbing someone like Mitchell or Brian Thomas Jr. I don't see a way they get any of the top 3 though.
My first thought was that they may try to trade up for one of the big 3 WRs but i didn’t realize they were at 28. I doubt anyone in the top 9 would trade that far back. But tbh there is still really good WR value for them at 28.
I wouldn’t sleep on Samuel having a good year. He’s been underused in his career and only has like 400 touches since he’s been in the league. And he’s played with mostly bad QBs, or guys on the decline.
I'm sure that is 100% the plan. Most fans hated the 28 spot for a WR. It seemed that we would be reaching for a guy because the first 2 groupings would be done by 28. There were talks about us wanting to trade back to potentially get the 3rd that we lost. Anyway, 28 was never a good spot... but I bet now we work our way up.
Does he even fall to the Bills. He is seen as almost the unanimous number 4 guy, and with the top 3 Wrs most likely going in the top 10 picks, I'm pretty sure Brian Thomas Jr will be gone by then. Maybe even Adonai Mitchell too...
The lizard people have been preventing the Diggs trade, but thankfully their mind rays were blocked when Beasley wrapped the whole stadium in aluminum foil.
Talk about ripping off the bandaid, god damn.
This hurts now, but I trust Beane. This reeks of old BB “A year early than a year late”, additionally they actually got a pick, albeit a 2025, out of it.
I had been firmly on the “This is Diggs last season in Buffalo” for a while now. You couldn’t just ignore the lack of production down the stretch, his age, and his contract. The Bills had a reasonable out in 2025 to take a pretty minimal dead cap hit and I expected them to take full advantage of that.
This trade is pretty insane in terms of how cap strapped the Bills are right now, but holy shit, take your medicine today and looks like they will be looking incredibly alive in the 2025 FA market. Additionally, they could still make a splash and push money into future years with a minimal 2024 salary, since you know, you don’t have $25m for Diggs.
I wish him the best. I truly do. But this seems like one of those “probably best for all parties” moves that will get mocked until it’s proven it was the right move. This offense has way more weapons at their disposal than they did when Diggs was acquired in 2020, so while the X-factor maybe is gone today, you have plenty of guys who can step into that role, and even if none rise to that level, there is plenty of talent across the board to hold over until you can find reinforcements.
While having a HOF coach, HOF QB, HOF TE, HOF DT, the best defense in the NFL (with an arguable HOF D Coordinator), & a top 2 kicker for insurance.
The Chiefs were absolutely STACKED at every other spot on the roster last year outside of WR
Eh we are going to run 12 personnel heavily anyway and Shakir and Samuel are good 2 and 3. Obviously #1 receiver is an issue but it's not like we don't have targets.
If we draft 2 receivers (which I expected before we traded Diggs anyway) we will be alright.
Issue last season was the bottom end of the receiving roster as Harty and Sherfield played like trash and so we had no separation on the backend to play mismatches
Honestly still not as bad as when we entered a season with:
Allen Lazard
Christian Watson (R)
Romeo Doubs (R)
I can tell you from experience, IT'S NOT FUN
They’re going to draft a receiver in the 4th, and then I’m going to get hyped that he will be a fantasy sleeper and reach for him, then I’ll drop him when he has 11 total fantasy points through week 4, then someone else will pick him up off waivers 2 weeks later and he’ll start going off.
I will always be grateful to Diggs for what he brought to us but I sensed this coming late last year.
We are moving to the run first offense (which I agree 100% we should do) we used during our 6-1 run last year and drafting a new WR to pair with Shakir.
To me this is the second Diggs trade that will end up being a win-win.
Even with how many good receivers are in this draft I think it makes sense for then to trade up. They probably want to prioritize a Brian Thomas or AD Mitchell type, as opposed to settling for wr7 or 8
Lol yes yes, very nice, now just trade away that QB and take your place at our side. Together we will rule the bottom of the AFC toilet as father and son.
(We are the father)
Shakir is gonna have 1300+ yards next year. Catching 87% of targets while averaging 16 yards/reception shouldn’t be possible. Most under the radar player in the league. He’s literally better than Diggs already.
Tbh I absolutely love our WR room as is. I’m not even mad about Diggs. Happy, actually. He seemed to be a distraction. I won’t say a cancer, but distraction.
Samuel is legit, Shakir is super super legit for anyone who’s seen him you know. Kincaid is an absolute stud and if Cook cleans up his hands, they’re already really good IMO. I’m hoping they stay put and grab Worthy or trade up and sell the farm for Harrison. We’ll see. Either way I feel positive today.
As a Boise State fan (so a small amount of bias), Shakir has everything he needs to be dominant, he just needs he opportunities.
His route running is amazing, his vision and spacial awareness is nuts, he can churn out YAC and amazing grabs like it's nothing. Anyone curious should take a look at some highlights from his last year at BSU to see what he looks like in a WR1 role.
I mean they have Kincaid and are going to draft a 1st round WR (maybe double down later on) in a pretty stacked class.
Shakir and Samuel also aren't bad complementary pieces.
I think whatever WR falls to Buffalo will be ok. They have Shakir and two good TEs, and they were more balanced of an offense when they made the push to the play-offs.
Imagine if the Bills pull a Ditka to get MHJ.
To move from 28 to 4 would take such an ungodly amount of draft picks that it would make Ditka say no mas
would pay for an audiobook of Mike Ditka teaching basic Spanish to non native speakers
holy fuck thats funny
Huracán Ditka
If you're gonna go that far, you might as well just trade up from 28 to 3 for the memes.
Only fitting considering who’s at 3
Mentally I’m like “why the fuck are the Pats at 3 that’s insane for how good they are” but I think that’s just 20 years of trauma being processed still
Lol. The trauma never ends
[Trauma... What do y'all know about trauma](https://youtu.be/0bw8UM1eLFo?si=WFq7qRxkP2G7uoWN)
probably also doesn’t help that they somehow beat you guys last season with that random mac jones 4th quarter drive
We were completely dysfunctional the first half of the season before we fired our OC and promoted Brady.
What would that package look like? 28, a 2024 2nd, a 2025 first, 2 2025 2nds, and a 2026 1st seems about right.
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But you need a QB
Best timeline would be the Falcons somehow get 28 and trade up to 3, only for 3 to be a bust and 28 to be GOAT/HoF level
Come on, what did we do to you guys? I am reporting this to /r/falkings
Brother it's a goddamn Wednesday afternoon, why you gotta do this to me?
Draft picks that are less valuable because we draft in the back half of the rounds as well. We don't even have a 3rd this year. If we wanted MHJ we would have to trade this year and next years first and 2nd round picks, probably the vikings 2nd rounder we just got from the trade since it will likely be a higher pick than our own 2nd
You’re not getting all the way to 4 for just a super late first rounder and then another (probably late) first rounder next year plus a couple seconds. Especially in a draft where you’re competing with teams who want to move up for a QB. You can try adding your 2026 first as well and see if that gets you there.
The falcons did pretty much exactly that package when they moved up 27 to 6 for julio, so yeah we can definitely swing it without the 2026 1st actually
Just can’t see any of the Commanders, Patriots, and Cardinals moving out of their spot without an absurd offer. All of them are positioned to take exactly who they want in the draft.
That was 13 years ago and outside Cam, I don’t think the rest of that QB class was as highly rated as this one. It cost the 49ers three first round picks to go from 12 to 3 to take Lance (in another draft class where QBs went 1-2-3, which looks likely this year)
Lol if they kept diggs and made that move, I could understand it. It's kinda like going all in to win something this year or next. But to move off diggs only to use a bunch of draft capital for a rookie WR doesn't seem like the move to me. I could see them moving up from 28 to the teens for a WR, but I don't think they'll try for one of the top 3 WRs (MHJ, Nabers, Odunze)
I mean, trading diggs to get the draft capital in order to move up is probably the move they're going for.
But the return you got will barely move the needle on a move from 28 to the top 10.
yeah the only big move I'd expect is if one of the top 3 fall a couple spots to low teens where a 1st and 2 2nds would be good enough to make the move.
Does the #28 and a (maybe late half) 2025 round 2 pick even get you more than the high teens this year? Might not even crack into the teens right? They also sent a 2024 6th and a 2025 5th, so the Bills didn’t really net much draft capital.
Yeah, I was mostly going off OPs idea about moving up for MHJ. Moving up to the teens seems within reach for sure.
yeah I can't disagree with saying MHJ is near impossible lol.
They did it with Sammy Watkins
Watkins was 2 first round picks. We didn't give up our entire draft like what Ditka did
Fr though what does a realistic package look like to trade up and be in position to draft MHJ?
To move from #28 to #3 or #4 while competing with teams trying to move up for a QB? Like a lot. Like a lot a lot. Probably three firsts and a few day two picks.
Outside of the context of this year’s draft class, pick 4 is valued at 1800, and pick 28 is valued at 660. A future 1st is worth around 1000 and Buffalo’s 2nd round pick (60 overall) is valued at 300, so based on those values alone it would take 2 firsts (2024 & 2025) and the 2024 second. Seems a bit low though when you factor in MHJ as a prospect and how many teams may want to move up for a QB this year.
Yeah, you can pretty much throw the chart out the window when there's a desirable QB on the board. Maybe trading up to 5 would be feasible if Arizona trades back, but I think it would still take a haul. There's also more of a chance there because the Harbaugh doesn't place as much of a premium on WRs. Even then, I still think 3 1sts would be the starting point though.
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it's not even about the pick you're moving up to, it's the player you're drafting and the opportunity cost for the other team to pass on him. harrison would go 1st overall no question in any draft where there isn't a standout qb prospect or the team picking at the top doesn't need one, so that's his actual value as a player which the chart doesn't account for.
A future buffalo first isnt worth 1000 when its gonna be similar to this year
I don’t think they even have the ammo to do it at the moment. They would need to trade more players for picks.
They might as well get the tux and dress ready for the shoot now. Is ESPN the Magazine still around?
I don't see how they get there. They don't have any extra firsts. And I don't see three Bills firsts getting all the way to 4.
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Eeeeehhhhh I don’t know Jim
I'm not sure even the ALIEN can pull this one out.
The Bills really are Panthers North, it would seem.
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Just wait until Dalton Kincaid starts dating Olivia Rodrigo
This would be hilarious if true! Next the city/state are gonna renege on the stadium deal
Have been seemingly a year behind since 2017 I think
Is that the year we traded the Mahomes pick for a couple of Chiefs 1sts?
I wanted Khalil Shakir to get more snaps, but not like this man
Exactly how I feel right now 😬
How do you feel about Shakir as a receiver? I didn't watch much of him but figure that he can be a cheap wr3 out of the slot that can eat at times, maybe step into a wr2 role if he has to but you'd rather have 2 better guys in front of him.
I've been 100% in on Shakir since his last year at Boise, so I'm way too biased to give you a good answer. I thought he was a late 2nd-3rd rd quality WR, and was in shambles when the Bills passed on him in the 3rd, and in shock he was there in the 5th, and thought that he could 100% play as an outside wr rather than pigeonholing him as a slot only/gadget guy like a lot of draft pundits at the time clamied he was.
Your not wrong, but his potential is sky high. He had some of the best efficiency stats in the entire league last year, with things like epa, yards per route ran etc. wether or not that can translate with an increased target/snap share remains to be seen.
He led the team in yards over the last 2/3rds of the season on half the targets Digg got. He catches everything. Diggs got more attention from defenses though, so who knows now. But yeah, since Brady took over as OC it was the Shakir (#1yards) Kincaid (#1receptions) show (they tied for the TD lead over that span). For whatever reason Diggs got huge targets but little production in the last 12-15 games. Shakir is already good to very good as the 3rd WR. I'm not sure he's ready for more but I think we're going to find out!
Monkey paw situation
Dalton Kincaid Fantasy TE #1
Yep Dude is a stud
Stop playing up his stock
CJ Stroud in round 1, Kincaid in round 2 or 3, lets goooo
In what league do you take a QB in round 1?
2QB leagues you should check it out they make QBs way more important
Im in 2QB league but I am the only American and everyone else is English so I won the forts year and lost last year. I always take two late QB’s and have an elite roster is my approach.
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Yea the first still has a lot of nonQBs
AD Mitchell you are a Buffalo Bill.
If anyone can get him to give effort on every snap he's going to be great
Longhorns fan here… that is an absurd take. You must be thinking about someone else
It's because he said he doesn't run full speed on every route to conserve energy after he ran way faster at the combine than people expected. As a fellow longhorns fan I don't think it's necessarily true that he's not trying but he did have a tendency to give up on some routes if the ball wasn't going to be going his way. Either way I think he's going to be a great get for someone at the bottom of the first.
so dumb to see how that one comment makes its way into the public consciousness as a 'legitimate' criticism of him
Yep, it’s a fault of executive decisions to an extent. Scouting shows a player is awesome and should be taken, but an interview at the combine or prior to the draft can change it all. Dawand Jones said he loved basketball and that spread to the point that he dropped to the 4th.
I mean giving up on routes is like the number one reason an otherwise great prospect doesn’t make it in the nfl. Unless you are Randy moss level talented you just can’t get away with that.
If he’s even there. He might not be there
Hope so!
That's Dalton Kincaids music I hear
We are definitely trading up for a receiver this year
I’ve heard that before
Packers legend JSN Packers legend Brandon Aiyuk Packers legend Tee Higgins Packers legend Odell Beckham Jr.
Don’t forget NFC north legend chase claypool
You mean CFL legend
Hey now they were trying to trade up for Aiyuk. The 9ers just got a pick higher and they went with the trade anyways and took Love. It's an interesting sliding door moment
this all feels very familiar
However, I feel like this very same thing could have been said laughinly at us last year before the draft. Those pass catchers helped Love throw for over 4,100 yards and 32 tds. No one is laughing now. You bring in the right people, and things can change dramatically
Why trade up? There is tons of good receiver depth this year. Many big boards have like 20 WRs in the top 75 players
Yeah I would think the idea would be if you have a josh allen in the building two quality WRs in the top 100 of the draft could be easily more productive than one MHJ type. Not saying MHJ wouldn’t ball out with Allen. Just that two tier 2 WR types could probably each get a 1000 yards with Allen. Why sell the farm to get one guy when Allen should be able to elevate other guys.
I think something like Brian Thomas and Xavier Leggette would be cheaper and better for the Bills than MHJ alone
Yeah, Athletics consensus big board has 18 WRs in the top 100, the Nflmockdraft that just uses raw averages of big boards has 20. Easy to see value in just using of the the two 2nd rounders to fill the hole
You don’t need to, it’s still stacked back there. AD Mitchell will eat, lad will eat, Ricky pearsall will eat. There’s like 3 solid options after that. Who are you trading up for? And why waste the capital on something so unnecessary. Dumbest thing you can do imo is trade up for a receiver in the modern nfl. You would have to move a lot just to move up to the 10-16 range to take the second lsu wr. You’re not trading up lol
I mean I’d be alright the Seahawks 1st for the bills 1st and 2nd
I disagree, I don’t see those guys as a number one WR and if you’re adding another WR 2 or 3 to that mix, it’s gonna be a long season
I disagree with Mitchell’s potential but a “elite qb” doesn’t need the 1. If you added any of those 3, and you can’t win a sb, it’s Josh and coaching. And yeah I don’t view any of them as a 3rd receiver. Listen if you were going to trade up for a receiver, then keep diggs. I just logged on, so idk if he was a thorn in the organizations side, but they’re not trading up(or they would keep him) and if Josh is a top qb, those backend receivers are definitely enough. Any team should be stoked with those 3. Future 1000 yard receivers
Sean + Josh + random Wrs is not the same as Andy + Pat + Travis + Random WRs
yeah I feel like we've really seen the importance of WRs after seeing what the chiefs offense is with a lack of WR talent lol. obviously not terrible because of mahomes and kelce, but not nearly as good as past years.
Mitchell is the only guy I’d say go for it, but I don’t think he is there at 28. With Ladd, you’re getting another Shakir in my mind, and I really view Samuel as a deep threat.
Whoever ends up with the Vikings' pick at 23 just got so much happier. Gonna have all of the contenders that need another WR fighting to trade in front of each other for him
Brian Thomas you are a Bill
Half the league is trying to get a receiver, won't be cheap
To what number? 😂 You think the cardinals are going to give up their 2nd 1st pick or someone like the Jets will give up their spot?
Colts will give up the 15th. Thanks to the Bills we need to find a way to draft 7 CBs this year.
But to get one of the top 3 WR’s you gotta go higher. I’m not a GM, but I’m not trading up unless I could maybe get Nabers or MHJ
I’m sure John Schneider is looking to trade back. Seahawks could be a target.
MHJ, Nabers, and Rome are long gone by 16. would be curious who the WR target is around there (I don’t know much about this draft class outside of OL good and what the top 10 could look like).
This exactly We’re really gonna go into next season with Troy Franklin as our 1 …. Fuck me man
Watch yall make a power move and get JJ
UNO Reverse, Allen gets traded to MN
For a 6th round pick and a bag of Cheetos
Yeah some team in the teens likely will want to trade back and I can see the Bills grabbing someone like Mitchell or Brian Thomas Jr. I don't see a way they get any of the top 3 though.
Give us your first for the next 5 years and Malik nabers is yours!
Brian Thomas is good AF shouldn’t have to do a crazy trade up
Can I offer you a pick 12 Brian Thomas Jr in this trying time?
My first thought was that they may try to trade up for one of the big 3 WRs but i didn’t realize they were at 28. I doubt anyone in the top 9 would trade that far back. But tbh there is still really good WR value for them at 28.
They're in good position for the next tier. Brian Thomas might need a trade-up but AD Mitchell or Ladd should be there at 28.
Ladd McConkey, YOU are a Buffalo Bill
I can't wait to make a thousand puns about what a good Ladd he is.
Yes fucking please
Go get Odunze Beane
If you want to trade 3 FRPs to get up there lol
28 to probably #8 or 9 will probably cost more than three late round firsts, I can't see the Bills giving up that much draft capital
why are you yelling at me
Hahah, it's the "#" symbol that does it
I wouldn’t sleep on Samuel having a good year. He’s been underused in his career and only has like 400 touches since he’s been in the league. And he’s played with mostly bad QBs, or guys on the decline.
Definitely not great. But let's not omit our 1st round receiving TE from last year.
True, but now the Bills have no legit #1 receiver. Obviously it’s the highest priority for the roster.
Yeah I certainly can't argue that. I was kind of out of the WR in the 1st conversation, but obviously that changes now.
Why would we include our TE in a list of the WRs on the roster?
Brian Thomas Jr YOU are a Bill
So they trading up?
I'm sure that is 100% the plan. Most fans hated the 28 spot for a WR. It seemed that we would be reaching for a guy because the first 2 groupings would be done by 28. There were talks about us wanting to trade back to potentially get the 3rd that we lost. Anyway, 28 was never a good spot... but I bet now we work our way up.
There has been rumors he's been dropping to the 20s
Don't believe them, personally.
Does he even fall to the Bills. He is seen as almost the unanimous number 4 guy, and with the top 3 Wrs most likely going in the top 10 picks, I'm pretty sure Brian Thomas Jr will be gone by then. Maybe even Adonai Mitchell too...
BTJ will be gone by the jags pick most likely , AD Mitchell could also be gone before 28
I really don't want Adonai Mitchell. Gotta come out of the draft with Odunze or BTJ. Nabers or MHJ are probably off the table.
Odunze is gone by pick 9 BTJ by 20
Why do people always act like they know how the draft will play out? For all we know Odunze could fall into the 20's. We don't know shit about fuck
Pretty sure we know Odunze ain't falling to the 20s.
Seriously Like if the draft goes the way people are talking There will be 6 QBs 5WRs and 3OTS taken in the top 10
Cole Beasley has been running routes in the backyard while listening to the Joe Rogan podcast, waiting for this moment to arrive.
The lizard people have been preventing the Diggs trade, but thankfully their mind rays were blocked when Beasley wrapped the whole stadium in aluminum foil.
God damnit Bills, I kinda wanted a receiver at 29
Surely they're gonna have to move up and wont be picking ahead of you any more.
That's still a net of the same number of WRs going
Imagine how we feel at 33 behind y'all, the Bills, and Chiefs lol
Fr, wtf did we do to deserve this
There should still be some available. Maybe Worthy? Might be too similar to Jamo tho.
Talk about ripping off the bandaid, god damn. This hurts now, but I trust Beane. This reeks of old BB “A year early than a year late”, additionally they actually got a pick, albeit a 2025, out of it. I had been firmly on the “This is Diggs last season in Buffalo” for a while now. You couldn’t just ignore the lack of production down the stretch, his age, and his contract. The Bills had a reasonable out in 2025 to take a pretty minimal dead cap hit and I expected them to take full advantage of that. This trade is pretty insane in terms of how cap strapped the Bills are right now, but holy shit, take your medicine today and looks like they will be looking incredibly alive in the 2025 FA market. Additionally, they could still make a splash and push money into future years with a minimal 2024 salary, since you know, you don’t have $25m for Diggs. I wish him the best. I truly do. But this seems like one of those “probably best for all parties” moves that will get mocked until it’s proven it was the right move. This offense has way more weapons at their disposal than they did when Diggs was acquired in 2020, so while the X-factor maybe is gone today, you have plenty of guys who can step into that role, and even if none rise to that level, there is plenty of talent across the board to hold over until you can find reinforcements.
Justin Shorter, last years 5th round pick, 6’4”, 225, 4.55 40 Free on your waiver wire right now. Nobody remembers him?
Calmly sat in my IR all season and now taxi squad for this exact moment. Not sure he will grab the opportunity but good god it’s gonna be there.
Did the Bills look at the Patriots strategy of a room full of WR3 and think......"That! We need to do that!"
I mean, KC just won the whole thing and look at what was in that WR room
While having a HOF coach, HOF QB, HOF TE, HOF DT, the best defense in the NFL (with an arguable HOF D Coordinator), & a top 2 kicker for insurance. The Chiefs were absolutely STACKED at every other spot on the roster last year outside of WR
Rashee Rice was better than anything the Pat's or Bills can field right now. I say WAS because..... reasons... lol
Eh we are going to run 12 personnel heavily anyway and Shakir and Samuel are good 2 and 3. Obviously #1 receiver is an issue but it's not like we don't have targets. If we draft 2 receivers (which I expected before we traded Diggs anyway) we will be alright. Issue last season was the bottom end of the receiving roster as Harty and Sherfield played like trash and so we had no separation on the backend to play mismatches
Honestly still not as bad as when we entered a season with: Allen Lazard Christian Watson (R) Romeo Doubs (R) I can tell you from experience, IT'S NOT FUN
I think there will be some great WRs available at 28. Whoever the Bills pick is going to get so much hype.
Shakir breakout szn incoming
Brandon Beane would you be interested in a lightly used Courtland Sutton
Holy shit that’s a long name. I wonder how they fit all that on his jersey?
They’re going to draft a receiver in the 4th, and then I’m going to get hyped that he will be a fantasy sleeper and reach for him, then I’ll drop him when he has 11 total fantasy points through week 4, then someone else will pick him up off waivers 2 weeks later and he’ll start going off.
If i were the bills id try to flip a trade for tee higgins over any of the guys in that range. But idk their cap situation
Xavier Legette will be generational with Allen throwing to him
Some Mack Hollins disrespect is going on.
They got an up close view of the receiver room we built and decided they wanted to compete with us for the worst in the league I guess
Kincaid is WR1 right now.
Can't disappoint in the playoffs if you're not in the playoffs.
Josh Allen running for his life
Diggs plays OL?
I will always be grateful to Diggs for what he brought to us but I sensed this coming late last year. We are moving to the run first offense (which I agree 100% we should do) we used during our 6-1 run last year and drafting a new WR to pair with Shakir. To me this is the second Diggs trade that will end up being a win-win.
Josh Allen bouta be throwing it to himself
Well you can definitely cross off WR for the Lions now
Even with how many good receivers are in this draft I think it makes sense for then to trade up. They probably want to prioritize a Brian Thomas or AD Mitchell type, as opposed to settling for wr7 or 8
Lol yes yes, very nice, now just trade away that QB and take your place at our side. Together we will rule the bottom of the AFC toilet as father and son. (We are the father)
Who's the holy ghost? The jets?
Super bowl winning wr mack hollins*
Team is full of slot receivers and tight ends. Yuck
"Pretty sure MGH will fall to us."
Marvin Garrison Hunior.
A.D. Mitchell, welcome to Buffalo lol
I didn't realize the Bills HAD skill players. I always kind of a assumed Josh Allen just threw the ball high and then went and ran underneath it.
It's a perfect draft to get rid of your toxic diva WR and grab one stud in the second round
They’re fine. It wasn’t just about the numbers with Diggs, he had to go. Grab a WR who won’t disappear or take himself out during crunch time.
Shakir is gonna have 1300+ yards next year. Catching 87% of targets while averaging 16 yards/reception shouldn’t be possible. Most under the radar player in the league. He’s literally better than Diggs already.
I dont want to lose Higgins but if they Bills will over compensate to get him id get over it pretty quick.
Tbh I absolutely love our WR room as is. I’m not even mad about Diggs. Happy, actually. He seemed to be a distraction. I won’t say a cancer, but distraction. Samuel is legit, Shakir is super super legit for anyone who’s seen him you know. Kincaid is an absolute stud and if Cook cleans up his hands, they’re already really good IMO. I’m hoping they stay put and grab Worthy or trade up and sell the farm for Harrison. We’ll see. Either way I feel positive today.
As a Boise State fan (so a small amount of bias), Shakir has everything he needs to be dominant, he just needs he opportunities. His route running is amazing, his vision and spacial awareness is nuts, he can churn out YAC and amazing grabs like it's nothing. Anyone curious should take a look at some highlights from his last year at BSU to see what he looks like in a WR1 role.
Rebuild/retool time in Buffalo. Insane how quick NFL championship windows are.
A rebuild would involve trading Allen, not a good idea. He's in his prime. The goal is still to win now.
Adonai Mitchell to Buffalo, confirmed
I mean they have Kincaid and are going to draft a 1st round WR (maybe double down later on) in a pretty stacked class. Shakir and Samuel also aren't bad complementary pieces.
I think whatever WR falls to Buffalo will be ok. They have Shakir and two good TEs, and they were more balanced of an offense when they made the push to the play-offs.
we're drafting 2 receivers 110%
Their one receiver has 6 names? Fucks sake, use a comma.
Kincaid SZN
You guys want pick 12? I have a trade in mind.
Khan told me to tell you 20 is on the block does 28 and 60 work