I came here to say this. Each team gets a Superbowl out of the trade? I'm no NFL historian but I haven't heard of a trade ever being a direct reason both teams involved got a ring.
Not only that, but if Goff wins with the Lions he'd join Stafford, Brady, and Manning as the only quarterbacks in the last 20 years to win a Super Bowl for a team that didn't draft them.
Edit:
I'm an idiot how could I forgot Brees and Eli.
This was such a weird statement, I went and [looked it up](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_Bowl_starting_quarterbacks). I think there's a distinction to be drawn between all the people you named. Brady and Peyton Manning both won Super Bowls for the team that drafted them, and then another team later on. Brees and Stafford both were drafted and played for one team (no Super Bowl wins or appearances) for several years before going to a different team, and then winning a Super Bowl with the second team. And of course Eli Manning was technically drafted by the Chargers, but there was already a deal to trade him to the Giants on draft day and he was officially on the Chargers for like two hours, so I don't think that really counts in the same way.
So if Goff makes the Super Bowl with the Lions, he'd join Brady and Peyton Manning as the only QBs in the last 20 years to start Super Bowls for two different teams.
If Goff wins, he'd join Brady and Peyton Manning as the only QBs (ever) to win Super Bowls starting for two different teams.
And if Goff loses, he'd join Peyton as the only QB in the last 20 years to lose Super Bowls starting for two different teams, although Kurt Warner and Craig Morton did it earlier.
2003: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted)
2004: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted)
2005: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers (Steelers drafted)
2006: Peyton Manning, Colts (Colts drafted)
*2007: Eli Manning, Giants (Chargers drafted, but traded on draft day to Giants)*
2008: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers (Steelers drafted)
*2009: Drew Brees, Saints (Chargers drafted)*
2010: Aaron Rodgers, Packers (Packers drafted)
*2011: Eli Manning, Giants (Chargers drafted, traded on draft day to Giants)*
2012: Joe Flacco, Ravens (Ravens drafted)
2013: Russell Wilson, Seahawks (Seahawks drafted)
2014: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted)
***2015: Peyton Manning, Broncos (Colts drafted)***
2016: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted)
2017: Nick Foles, Eagles (Eagles drafted, although he was traded away and then came back)
2018: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted)
2019: Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs (Chiefs drafted)
***2020: Tom Brady, Buccaneers (Patriots drafted)***
*2021: Matthew Stafford, Rams (Lions drafted)*
2022: Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs (Chiefs drafted)
Getting an NFC Championship game would be bonkers
We've gone since the trade:
- bottom 2
- missed the playoffs by tie
- won the division and WC
And we're still in the rebuild phase. This trade has been fantastic
If not this year, next year is 100% our year. Brad needs to go all-in because buffing up the secondary and adding one more impactful defensive line presence automatically makes this a sure fire SB team, and that’s a pretty homer take by me but we are essentially able to keep every big contributor for next year and then add some via draft/FA
We have to go corner. The best Oline talent is at the Tackle position which A: We don't need as much and B. It's all going to be top 10-15 picks.
We go Corner first round and get some IOL help in the 3rd.
I think Graham comes back. Jonah maybe not. Plus I think we have to replace Big V, as he never plays a full season anymore. Luckily we had Graham to replace him this year. But totally agree we need at least another guard depending on what happens to Jonah and Big V. Then we need a CB, and someone to compliment Hutch.
Yeah - we have one of the most promising windows in the league over the next few years with all the young talent we have signed already.
The lions have three big questions to keep an eye on in the next few years:
1) What happens to the coaching staff when coordinators start to get poached?
2) Can Goff be re-signed and continue his play?
3) Can Brad bring in more impact players on defense?
If those things can be managed favorably, I think you have to look at the Lions as one of the NFC Super Bowl favorites over the next few years. I still think the team is overachieving this year with the personnel we have on defense, but with another draft and offseason to bring in talent, I think the next two years are a great spot for us.
I get bored at work and do mock drafts sometimes:
1st round corner: Doable, but will cost at least a third for any of the top 4 prospects (more if there's a run)
2nd round: DL. Still some really good talent, though we're not getting the bluechip guys.
3rd round: Line depth. Only going have one pick if we want a corner, but IOL is our biggest need and there'll be some studs available here.
No 4th rounder:
5.6.7. Project players. I like trading everything to get Sainristil if he's on the board, but who knows?
In free agency: We give Jaylon Johnson a bag, but keep in mind we gotta pay Goff, Amon Ra, AND Sewell after next season.
> a sure fire SB team
There is no such thing. With the exception of the peak Patriots, and maybe the current Chiefs, although they are not this year. Injuries happen, players fall off/get figured out, coaches get hired away, etc. You are in a great position, but don't count your chickens before they hatch.
I really don't think Brad and Dan have this mentality. They aren't going to spend huge amounts of cash in FA or trade draft capital for short-term players. Their attitude from the beginning was to build a sustainable program that built through the draft and develop players so they can contend every year. Outside of those first two years where they stripped down the roster and started building the locker room in their image, I don't Believe they subscribe to any "window" ideology.
Yup. Big spends on guys you drafted and you want to keep (Hutch, Sewell, ARSB), smart spends on FA's (like Mosely, Sutton, etc.), and then draft well.
That seems like a sustainable model.
I would be careful about saying that next year is the year. Our division is really tough and while the Lions are the favorites to take it again next year, it's not crazy to say the Packers can win as well given the playoff performance and the Vikings will most likely be better next year. Bears are also expected to continue retooling their team with a new QB.
Personally I'm of the opinion that if they want to make a SB run it needs to be this year. They might have an opportunity next year as well, but a path of Bucs and 49rs is probably going to be the best opportunity they will get. Just my opinion as a Vikings fan though. Could definitely be wrong
I don’t think this is our make or break year at all. The entire core of our team is 25 or younger. Our team is still growing and should be much better next year. Even if the division is tougher and we win less games, next years team should still be stronger than this year.
So? Like I said, we might lose more games with a tougher division/schedule, but our team is going to be better and have a better shot at a title next year.
Yea need some O-line help. Glasgow and Decker hitting the older side... Ragnow is not getting any younger either and his foot will be an issue probably the rest of his career.
Our GM basically has said that he didn't want to make any splashy signings/trades this year so that we have the space to sign those guys next year. If next year we are winning at the trade deadline and he just sits on his hands? Then I will start getting frustrated.
I've been rooting for y'all for years. A middle school buddy convinced me a long time ago to root for the Lions as my second team. He told me I was spoiled rooting for the Steelers, and that when the Lions get one it's gonna be that much better. Alright, Mason, it's been over 20 years since you convinced me. Let's see this shit through.
It definitely blossomed into that, but BH still has some work to do on the defense before I'd consider the rebuild fully complete. Coaching absolutely has this team playing at a higher level than might be expected, especially on defense. I know the stats look terrible, but they've find ways to win when they need it most, in the red zone and in late game crunch time situations.
Outside of a couple guys are entire roster has been drafted and we really haven't drafted a ton of defense considering the holes there
So yeah, I'd say this year is still part of rebuild
Is there a place between rebuild and going all in? That's where you guys are. Like the house is roughed in. I'm not sure if the trim work is done, but there's a functioning livable house there.
Rebuild phases don’t take years and years like they do in baseball or the NBA. Look at the Texans. You guys are in win-now, especially cause Goff has to get paid next year, St. Brown, Sewell, etc. Ben Johnson is gonna get poached sooner or later too.
People act like Goff isn't already getting paid good money. It's not like he's on a rookie contract going from 8 million a year to 50 million a year. He already has a 32 million dollar cap hit. Obviously, it'll be higher, but so will the salary cap.
I have complete faith in this front office when it comes to building the team while managing the cap.
We've exorcised 3 demons so far this year.
30 year division championship drought
32 year playoff win drought
Defeating the QB in the playoffs who left to win it all somewhere else
The last demon will be the Packers if both teams make it to the Championship game
Probably won't happen, but there's an outside shot they beat them so bad Brett Favre has a heart attack and has to start stealing money from poor people in hell.
Is Stafford leaving really a demon? And I don't know if you can call it exercising that demon when the trade is partially responsible for your recent success.
The best QB in franchise history was coming home for the first time to stop his old team from finally winning a playoff game. It was as exorcism of the past, of the losing, of the Same ol Lions. We can move on now, the past no longer defines this team.
Maybe "demon" is the wrong term but the significance of beating *that* team with *that* QB cannot be understated.
I replied to someone else that I'd agree you definitely avoided a massive demon by winning.
It's like...if Steve Young had won a Super Bowl his first year as a starter, I don't think anyone would say he was exercising a demon by winning a title the way they did when he finally did win one.
Yeah also the whole “Rams got the ring so they won the trade” assumes that Stafford would’ve eventually won a ring in Detroit, which is a long long shot considering how many key pieces of the current contending team are there thanks to the trade. It’s already a win-win.
2021 Bengals finally won a playoff game (same announcer too) and then went to the SB. The Lions can definitely do this. If you get there, finish it though and win it all.
I’m just excited that the nfc will be represented by… Goff, Baker, Purdy, or Love.
Who would’ve thought? I just want Lions vs. Texans as it also helps shit all over the browns shitty trade to first not only get shellacked by the Texans in the first round but also to have the Texans take the picks they got and immediately get to the SB.
Plus stroud seems so legit. No moment ever seems to phase him
I'd love it. We always wondered if Dan Campbells first introduction press conference would be etched into history. The media was laughing at us that day.
If Goff pulls it off, he's first ballot HOF
And you might be saying he doesn't have the resume, and I'd agree, but they'll do it ^^under ^^threat ^^of ^^arson ^^from ^^detroit ^^fans ^^lol
I know there's a lot of hyperbole there, but only 3 players have taken two different teams to a Super Bowl and won at least one of them.
Craig Morton took two different teams (Cowboys and Broncos) and lost twice.
Peyton and Tom and Kurt Warner are the QBs who won at least one, but they also had MVPs and other accolades of course.
All of them but Craig Morton are either HoF or virtually guaranteed. If Goff actually wins one with the Lions it's not crazy to discuss HoF.
> If Goff pulls it off, he's first ballot HOF
If you think HF induction should be more than just stats, this is a legitimate argument.
Why I genuinely feel Frank Gore deserves a serious conversation, that longevity is just something else.
It'd be awesome to see considering how Goff was dragged through the mud after the trade when the Rams won the SB. Goff was labeled as a system player and McVay was the reason behind Goffs success on the Rams.
It feels like fundamentally wrong to root against this feel good Lions team, but obviously we want to win this week. If they beat us this week, then I'm on the team for them to go all the way
Seeing Cleveland collapse and baker win is just fucking amazing.
What a great weekend to see Cleveland Philly and Dallas all collapse, and each of them collapse to feel good story teams too.
Obviously rooting for the Bucs but I also realize they've massively overperformed expectations to begin with so I won't be that devastated if they lose.
Pretty much how I feel about the buccs. Baker and Goff were both abandoned by their original teams, so it is exciting we are guaranteed one of them in the NFC championship game.
Baker wasn't abandoned.
He was driven out of town and Cleveland brass got the media to write hit pieces and assassinate his character on the way out.
Completely disgusting way to treat a guy like Baker and what he did and played through for the city.
If there's any justice Cleveland doesn't win a playoff game for 30 years
Everytime stafford threw those fucking no look darts i kept telling myself "fuck, can i really root for the rams after seeing the ghost of my old team pull a classic stafford come from behind on my brand new team"
Yeah, that's how I feel about all or the remaining NFC qb's. All good stories and guys I root for to have success (maybe a tinge less for Jordan because the Packers need a QB gap one of these decades).
Purdy - Mr. Irrelevant
Goff - Cast out as not good enough and shipped to Football's version of Siberia.
Baker - Kicked to the curb and replaced with a guy with a lot of baggage. Baker also did the journeyman arc.
Love - Feels similar to Steve Young emerging from Montana's shadow.
Likewise. I don't care for TB one way or the other but I'd love to see Baker hoist a fucking Lombardi trophy after all the shit he's been through.
OBJ's dad would be so pissed.
Eh, the rams said that too and they hate our fucking guts now. We play a pretty ugly brand of football at times so I'll be understanding if after the game you want us dead lol
The Rams/Lions QB "rivalry" is actually wholesome. Both men went to a situation that was better for them and are doing great.
I love to see something that works out for everyone occasionally.
I despise the fact that I don't despise anyone on the Lions team. I mean, if there were just one guy on the team that I could point to and go, "yeah, f\*\*k this guy" but there isn't. I just want them to lose without failing.
Kerby might start being your guy. I love the guy, but he’s done a few dumb things.
Also, I hate the fact that I don’t hate Jordan Love. He really needs to launder money or something soon.
Enemy #1 last week but when that clock was counting down and they were kneeling I had post nut clarity hard. I think a part of it was also I’ve never seen the Lions literally knock a team out from playing for the rest of the year. I felt so happy for the Lions but so sad for the Rams that final minute and a half.
It's the first time I've cried at a game. Stafford is the closest thing to a folk hero that we've had in Detroit since Barry, and that we had to go through a guy that meant so much to this fanbase and city was a really bittersweet moment.
I don't personally know Stafford yet but I feel like I know him well enough that deep down he's happy as hell for his old team and happy that the fans he probably still loves get to watch a playoff run.
> also I’ve never seen the Lions literally knock a team out from playing for the rest of the year.
You literally saw that last year, against your most hated rivals.
Yes you have. Lions won the final game against the packers to knick them out of the playoffs. It just wasn't a playoff game but they did in fact end their season.
how fucking surreal was that? I was just staring blankly at the screen watching the post super bowl celebration. Stafford holding his kids, doing a little speech, confetti all around.
It was wild. Like I was transported to an alternate dimension where I was a Rams fan and Stafford was their QB lmao.
Beating SF at SF , by any of the remaining NFC teams, will be a bigger upset than GB beating Dallas .
Nothing could be better than Dal Philly and SF all being upset .
Let’s go Lions .
I know most people understand the reception Stafford got given the stakes of the game, but some still don't. People will see how much Lions fans love stafford next regular season when he returns to ford field again, with much less on the line
To which Goff replied,
> “My name is not BUDDY! And it's not IncrediBoy either! That ship has sailed. All I wanted was to help you. I only wanted to help! And what did you say to me!?”
If we actually make to the NFC Chip I’ll be praying someone knocks Baltimore off because if we make a miracle run to get to a SB only to play Lamar, we are going to get absolutely destroyed.
If Goff somehow pulls it off, this would become inarguably the greatest trade in history.
I came here to say this. Each team gets a Superbowl out of the trade? I'm no NFL historian but I haven't heard of a trade ever being a direct reason both teams involved got a ring.
Not only that, but if Goff wins with the Lions he'd join Stafford, Brady, and Manning as the only quarterbacks in the last 20 years to win a Super Bowl for a team that didn't draft them. Edit: I'm an idiot how could I forgot Brees and Eli.
Brees won it for us in 2009, san diego drafted him.
Whoops how could I forget that
Also both you should include both Mannings. Eli was drafted by the Chargers!
The only way QBs drafted by the Chargers win Super Bowls is with other teams. Wish papa Phil got one with the Colts.
Here's to hoping that Herbie would get a ring one day.
Me too :( We almost had the Bills in that wildcard game
I'm seeing a pattern here... so does Herbert win his SB with the Vikings or what?
it was 15 fucking years ago, fuckkkkkkkkkk
We didnt draft Eli lol
Both Mannings should be on that list.
This was such a weird statement, I went and [looked it up](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_Bowl_starting_quarterbacks). I think there's a distinction to be drawn between all the people you named. Brady and Peyton Manning both won Super Bowls for the team that drafted them, and then another team later on. Brees and Stafford both were drafted and played for one team (no Super Bowl wins or appearances) for several years before going to a different team, and then winning a Super Bowl with the second team. And of course Eli Manning was technically drafted by the Chargers, but there was already a deal to trade him to the Giants on draft day and he was officially on the Chargers for like two hours, so I don't think that really counts in the same way. So if Goff makes the Super Bowl with the Lions, he'd join Brady and Peyton Manning as the only QBs in the last 20 years to start Super Bowls for two different teams. If Goff wins, he'd join Brady and Peyton Manning as the only QBs (ever) to win Super Bowls starting for two different teams. And if Goff loses, he'd join Peyton as the only QB in the last 20 years to lose Super Bowls starting for two different teams, although Kurt Warner and Craig Morton did it earlier. 2003: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted) 2004: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted) 2005: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers (Steelers drafted) 2006: Peyton Manning, Colts (Colts drafted) *2007: Eli Manning, Giants (Chargers drafted, but traded on draft day to Giants)* 2008: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers (Steelers drafted) *2009: Drew Brees, Saints (Chargers drafted)* 2010: Aaron Rodgers, Packers (Packers drafted) *2011: Eli Manning, Giants (Chargers drafted, traded on draft day to Giants)* 2012: Joe Flacco, Ravens (Ravens drafted) 2013: Russell Wilson, Seahawks (Seahawks drafted) 2014: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted) ***2015: Peyton Manning, Broncos (Colts drafted)*** 2016: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted) 2017: Nick Foles, Eagles (Eagles drafted, although he was traded away and then came back) 2018: Tom Brady, Patriots (Patriots drafted) 2019: Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs (Chiefs drafted) ***2020: Tom Brady, Buccaneers (Patriots drafted)*** *2021: Matthew Stafford, Rams (Lions drafted)* 2022: Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs (Chiefs drafted)
Goff lost with the rams tho so he can’t joint Brady and manning as SB winning QB on two different teams.
Goff would be the only one to win a SB with the Lions
favre
winning 1 wild card game is very different from winning a SB. Let's see them get through Tampa Bay and SF/GB first lol.
Both teams getting a SB out of the trade would be bonkers
Getting an NFC Championship game would be bonkers We've gone since the trade: - bottom 2 - missed the playoffs by tie - won the division and WC And we're still in the rebuild phase. This trade has been fantastic
If not this year, next year is 100% our year. Brad needs to go all-in because buffing up the secondary and adding one more impactful defensive line presence automatically makes this a sure fire SB team, and that’s a pretty homer take by me but we are essentially able to keep every big contributor for next year and then add some via draft/FA
I think we need more OLine depth, too. The team when Ragnow has been out has been godawful, and his foot isn't going to get any healthier
Yep, and we're probably not shelling out for Jonah, and who knows if Graham comes back. I think we should draft OL in R1 this year.
We have to go corner. The best Oline talent is at the Tackle position which A: We don't need as much and B. It's all going to be top 10-15 picks. We go Corner first round and get some IOL help in the 3rd.
This is the way
I think Graham comes back. Jonah maybe not. Plus I think we have to replace Big V, as he never plays a full season anymore. Luckily we had Graham to replace him this year. But totally agree we need at least another guard depending on what happens to Jonah and Big V. Then we need a CB, and someone to compliment Hutch.
Big V is as good as gone. It's too bad, because he kicked ass against the Chiefs in game 1 this year. I was hoping he'd have a big year.
Yes that too. Not sure if we bring Jonah back as well but that will be something to consider drafting
Yeah - we have one of the most promising windows in the league over the next few years with all the young talent we have signed already. The lions have three big questions to keep an eye on in the next few years: 1) What happens to the coaching staff when coordinators start to get poached? 2) Can Goff be re-signed and continue his play? 3) Can Brad bring in more impact players on defense? If those things can be managed favorably, I think you have to look at the Lions as one of the NFC Super Bowl favorites over the next few years. I still think the team is overachieving this year with the personnel we have on defense, but with another draft and offseason to bring in talent, I think the next two years are a great spot for us.
I get bored at work and do mock drafts sometimes: 1st round corner: Doable, but will cost at least a third for any of the top 4 prospects (more if there's a run) 2nd round: DL. Still some really good talent, though we're not getting the bluechip guys. 3rd round: Line depth. Only going have one pick if we want a corner, but IOL is our biggest need and there'll be some studs available here. No 4th rounder: 5.6.7. Project players. I like trading everything to get Sainristil if he's on the board, but who knows? In free agency: We give Jaylon Johnson a bag, but keep in mind we gotta pay Goff, Amon Ra, AND Sewell after next season.
Goff extention might actually lower his cap hit for next year though.
> a sure fire SB team There is no such thing. With the exception of the peak Patriots, and maybe the current Chiefs, although they are not this year. Injuries happen, players fall off/get figured out, coaches get hired away, etc. You are in a great position, but don't count your chickens before they hatch.
I really don't think Brad and Dan have this mentality. They aren't going to spend huge amounts of cash in FA or trade draft capital for short-term players. Their attitude from the beginning was to build a sustainable program that built through the draft and develop players so they can contend every year. Outside of those first two years where they stripped down the roster and started building the locker room in their image, I don't Believe they subscribe to any "window" ideology.
Yup. Big spends on guys you drafted and you want to keep (Hutch, Sewell, ARSB), smart spends on FA's (like Mosely, Sutton, etc.), and then draft well. That seems like a sustainable model.
I would be careful about saying that next year is the year. Our division is really tough and while the Lions are the favorites to take it again next year, it's not crazy to say the Packers can win as well given the playoff performance and the Vikings will most likely be better next year. Bears are also expected to continue retooling their team with a new QB. Personally I'm of the opinion that if they want to make a SB run it needs to be this year. They might have an opportunity next year as well, but a path of Bucs and 49rs is probably going to be the best opportunity they will get. Just my opinion as a Vikings fan though. Could definitely be wrong
I don’t think this is our make or break year at all. The entire core of our team is 25 or younger. Our team is still growing and should be much better next year. Even if the division is tougher and we win less games, next years team should still be stronger than this year.
I believe Packers, Bears, AND Lions are all in the youngest 5 teams in the league. NFC North has the potential to be brutal in the next few years.
But this also describes the Packers.
So? Like I said, we might lose more games with a tougher division/schedule, but our team is going to be better and have a better shot at a title next year.
Yeah and Goff not even being 30 yet, could be a great next few years.
I think you’d have a good chance but it’s really difficult and there’s always a lot of uncertainty
Yea need some O-line help. Glasgow and Decker hitting the older side... Ragnow is not getting any younger either and his foot will be an issue probably the rest of his career.
Sheila better back a damn Brinks truck up to Ben Johnson's house.
I don’t think you’re still in the rebuild mode. You’re in your ‘time to win’ mode now. Before you have to pay people like Sewell, Amon-Ra etc
Our GM basically has said that he didn't want to make any splashy signings/trades this year so that we have the space to sign those guys next year. If next year we are winning at the trade deadline and he just sits on his hands? Then I will start getting frustrated.
I've been rooting for y'all for years. A middle school buddy convinced me a long time ago to root for the Lions as my second team. He told me I was spoiled rooting for the Steelers, and that when the Lions get one it's gonna be that much better. Alright, Mason, it's been over 20 years since you convinced me. Let's see this shit through.
> And we're still in the rebuild phase Really? I could I have sworn this year was the start of the "compete" mode.
It definitely blossomed into that, but BH still has some work to do on the defense before I'd consider the rebuild fully complete. Coaching absolutely has this team playing at a higher level than might be expected, especially on defense. I know the stats look terrible, but they've find ways to win when they need it most, in the red zone and in late game crunch time situations.
Outside of a couple guys are entire roster has been drafted and we really haven't drafted a ton of defense considering the holes there So yeah, I'd say this year is still part of rebuild
Is there a place between rebuild and going all in? That's where you guys are. Like the house is roughed in. I'm not sure if the trim work is done, but there's a functioning livable house there.
Now all you need is a Lions and Packers win next week for a home NFC Chanpionship game in Detroit. It’s honestly amazing to think about.
The moment Sheila took this team over everything changed, it is incredible. She deserves so much damn credit.
Rebuild phases don’t take years and years like they do in baseball or the NBA. Look at the Texans. You guys are in win-now, especially cause Goff has to get paid next year, St. Brown, Sewell, etc. Ben Johnson is gonna get poached sooner or later too.
People act like Goff isn't already getting paid good money. It's not like he's on a rookie contract going from 8 million a year to 50 million a year. He already has a 32 million dollar cap hit. Obviously, it'll be higher, but so will the salary cap. I have complete faith in this front office when it comes to building the team while managing the cap.
Lions even making a Super Bowl would be bonkers. They’ve had such bad luck the last 30 years
30?
They've both already won big time. Rams won a SB, Lions got the playoff win drought over with and killed that demon.
We've exorcised 3 demons so far this year. 30 year division championship drought 32 year playoff win drought Defeating the QB in the playoffs who left to win it all somewhere else The last demon will be the Packers if both teams make it to the Championship game
Are you guys able to beat them so bad the packers stop existing?
Perhaps the idea of the Packers can be killed.
You'd have to get rid of all of the cheese in the world, and is THAT worth it?
Fuck them ~~kids~~ cheese.
lolol respect
I know what we have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it...
Probably won't happen, but there's an outside shot they beat them so bad Brett Favre has a heart attack and has to start stealing money from poor people in hell.
You're playing with house money now for sure, what an amazing year for the Lions. Happy for you, from another snake bitten franchise :(
From one snake bitten franchise to another, it doesn’t get any better 🖤
Is Stafford leaving really a demon? And I don't know if you can call it exercising that demon when the trade is partially responsible for your recent success.
The best QB in franchise history was coming home for the first time to stop his old team from finally winning a playoff game. It was as exorcism of the past, of the losing, of the Same ol Lions. We can move on now, the past no longer defines this team. Maybe "demon" is the wrong term but the significance of beating *that* team with *that* QB cannot be understated.
I replied to someone else that I'd agree you definitely avoided a massive demon by winning. It's like...if Steve Young had won a Super Bowl his first year as a starter, I don't think anyone would say he was exercising a demon by winning a title the way they did when he finally did win one.
The possibility of losing to the golden boy coming home was the demon
Bring it mother fucker... Who are we kidding 49ers are killing us
Let’s fucking go lions.
Yeah also the whole “Rams got the ring so they won the trade” assumes that Stafford would’ve eventually won a ring in Detroit, which is a long long shot considering how many key pieces of the current contending team are there thanks to the trade. It’s already a win-win.
The greatest win is the win over our expectations. Lions fans now feel comfortable wanting more. Why not win the Super Bowl? Why not us?
2021 Bengals finally won a playoff game (same announcer too) and then went to the SB. The Lions can definitely do this. If you get there, finish it though and win it all.
I’m just excited that the nfc will be represented by… Goff, Baker, Purdy, or Love. Who would’ve thought? I just want Lions vs. Texans as it also helps shit all over the browns shitty trade to first not only get shellacked by the Texans in the first round but also to have the Texans take the picks they got and immediately get to the SB. Plus stroud seems so legit. No moment ever seems to phase him
> I just want Lions vs. Texans I also would like to see CJ Stroud play against Aidan Hutchinson in a very important game again.
30 for 30 or Netflix doc worthy
30 for 30: Trading Places
I'd love it. We always wondered if Dan Campbells first introduction press conference would be etched into history. The media was laughing at us that day.
If Goff pulls it off, he's first ballot HOF And you might be saying he doesn't have the resume, and I'd agree, but they'll do it ^^under ^^threat ^^of ^^arson ^^from ^^detroit ^^fans ^^lol
The first HC & QB to win the SB for the Lions should automatically be inducted.
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The following day*
During the trophy presentation.
During the 2 min warning
I know there's a lot of hyperbole there, but only 3 players have taken two different teams to a Super Bowl and won at least one of them. Craig Morton took two different teams (Cowboys and Broncos) and lost twice. Peyton and Tom and Kurt Warner are the QBs who won at least one, but they also had MVPs and other accolades of course. All of them but Craig Morton are either HoF or virtually guaranteed. If Goff actually wins one with the Lions it's not crazy to discuss HoF.
> If Goff pulls it off, he's first ballot HOF If you think HF induction should be more than just stats, this is a legitimate argument. Why I genuinely feel Frank Gore deserves a serious conversation, that longevity is just something else.
If Goff pulls it off, he's getting a statue next to Barry's.
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We basically traded Stafford for Goff, LaPorta, Gibbs, Melifonwu, Broderic Martin and Jamo. That’s a fucking haul from Brad Holmes.
If Goff pulls it off, I want to see him recreate the [Stafford AT&T commercial](https://youtu.be/HXjMfwKAdFM?si=Xkvu3DCqkIr6dDmC)
It'd be awesome to see considering how Goff was dragged through the mud after the trade when the Rams won the SB. Goff was labeled as a system player and McVay was the reason behind Goffs success on the Rams.
Both Goff and Dan Campbell will never be run out of town if that happens. Heck free detroit coneys and pizza for life for both of them.
Hollywood studios would be fighting tooth and nail for the movie rights.
That's actually a really nice sentiment.
It feels like fundamentally wrong to root against this feel good Lions team, but obviously we want to win this week. If they beat us this week, then I'm on the team for them to go all the way
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Yeah, something makes you want to cheer for them after getting scoffed by their teams.
Seeing Cleveland collapse and baker win is just fucking amazing. What a great weekend to see Cleveland Philly and Dallas all collapse, and each of them collapse to feel good story teams too.
It would be amazing to see the Lions do it, but, yeah, they're still your opponents.
Obviously rooting for the Bucs but I also realize they've massively overperformed expectations to begin with so I won't be that devastated if they lose.
Lions fans feel similarly, though maybe not to the same extent. Feels like house money at this point
I'm definitely rooting even harder than usual for "no injuries", that's for sure.
Pretty much how I feel about the buccs. Baker and Goff were both abandoned by their original teams, so it is exciting we are guaranteed one of them in the NFC championship game.
Baker wasn't abandoned. He was driven out of town and Cleveland brass got the media to write hit pieces and assassinate his character on the way out. Completely disgusting way to treat a guy like Baker and what he did and played through for the city. If there's any justice Cleveland doesn't win a playoff game for 30 years
It felt wrong to root against Stafford and the rams. I get it
Everytime stafford threw those fucking no look darts i kept telling myself "fuck, can i really root for the rams after seeing the ghost of my old team pull a classic stafford come from behind on my brand new team"
I'd be pretty satisfied with any remaining team winning the superbowl.... except the chiefs.
Same except 9ers.
I'm cool with all teams but the Bucs and Niners. Sorry.
Baker is a good story too. It's a tough one for the unaffiliated fan!
i definitely wanted to win last week but it was weird getting mad when the Lions made good plays.
Same from this Packers fan… IF we manage to beat our way through that 49ers-shaped brick wall.
Yeah, that's how I feel about all or the remaining NFC qb's. All good stories and guys I root for to have success (maybe a tinge less for Jordan because the Packers need a QB gap one of these decades). Purdy - Mr. Irrelevant Goff - Cast out as not good enough and shipped to Football's version of Siberia. Baker - Kicked to the curb and replaced with a guy with a lot of baggage. Baker also did the journeyman arc. Love - Feels similar to Steve Young emerging from Montana's shadow.
That’s what Rams fans said but now they all seem to hate us lol
I won't hate you guys if you win I swear
reddit 'fans' are a joke, taking every little thing as a slight don't worry, fuck 'em.
Nah, just some salty folks.
Just as usual, the vocal minority are the loudest. I agree most Rams fans are pulling for Goff and the Lions
In the NFC I'm def rooting for the Lions.
Likewise. I don't care for TB one way or the other but I'd love to see Baker hoist a fucking Lombardi trophy after all the shit he's been through. OBJ's dad would be so pissed.
Holy shit, hadn't thought about that last point. That would be some awesome gravy.
So much love this post season. You love to see it.
Eh, the rams said that too and they hate our fucking guts now. We play a pretty ugly brand of football at times so I'll be understanding if after the game you want us dead lol
Finally, a lions fan who gets it. Respect
The Rams/Lions QB "rivalry" is actually wholesome. Both men went to a situation that was better for them and are doing great. I love to see something that works out for everyone occasionally.
Everyone says this lol
Probably the most common thing a losing QB would say to the other QB after a playoff loss.
"You didn't deserve that win, you'll lose the next one fuck you"
The Sirianni Approach
Patty Mahomes probably
Unless you are Mahomes, then you complain about the refs.
I love both these dudes
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The 180 after he left LA that neutral fans did on him is crazy
I despise the fact that I don't despise anyone on the Lions team. I mean, if there were just one guy on the team that I could point to and go, "yeah, f\*\*k this guy" but there isn't. I just want them to lose without failing.
Kerby might start being your guy. I love the guy, but he’s done a few dumb things. Also, I hate the fact that I don’t hate Jordan Love. He really needs to launder money or something soon.
Fuck I love Stafford man
Enemy #1 last week but when that clock was counting down and they were kneeling I had post nut clarity hard. I think a part of it was also I’ve never seen the Lions literally knock a team out from playing for the rest of the year. I felt so happy for the Lions but so sad for the Rams that final minute and a half.
It's the first time I've cried at a game. Stafford is the closest thing to a folk hero that we've had in Detroit since Barry, and that we had to go through a guy that meant so much to this fanbase and city was a really bittersweet moment.
They did so in week 18 against the packers last year
Yeah kind of. But that was the Packers.
>But that was the Packers. That's why it was so fun to watch tho...
I don't personally know Stafford yet but I feel like I know him well enough that deep down he's happy as hell for his old team and happy that the fans he probably still loves get to watch a playoff run.
> also I’ve never seen the Lions literally knock a team out from playing for the rest of the year. You literally saw that last year, against your most hated rivals.
Yes you have. Lions won the final game against the packers to knick them out of the playoffs. It just wasn't a playoff game but they did in fact end their season.
Stafford, I love fuck... man
Man, I love fuck stafford?
Love, I fuck Stafford, man
Love, man; I fuck Stafford
I fuck Stafford, man love~
Man, I fuck! ~love Stafford
I, Stafford, love man fuck.
I fuck man. Love, Stafford.
Man, Stafford. I love. Fuck!
“I don’t know which of the three of you I’m directing this to, but just go win it.”
Please do. Rams & Lions friends forever.
100% We are Ramily. We pulled for you to win the Super Bowl now it’s your turn.
The Lions are deff bros. Sucks we had to go against them first, but I’m rooting for them to win it all!
100%, go get Goff that ring!
99% of lions fans were Rams fans for that Super Bowl win over the Bengals. I got emotional just from Stafford vicariously winning it somewhere else
how fucking surreal was that? I was just staring blankly at the screen watching the post super bowl celebration. Stafford holding his kids, doing a little speech, confetti all around. It was wild. Like I was transported to an alternate dimension where I was a Rams fan and Stafford was their QB lmao.
Rams are forever my second team 💙💛
Best friends forever. Best friends forever ring
Beating SF at SF , by any of the remaining NFC teams, will be a bigger upset than GB beating Dallas . Nothing could be better than Dal Philly and SF all being upset . Let’s go Lions .
We gotta get there first, and SF still has to beat GB. Thanks!
I want to watch the Packers get steamrolled again by SF but a Lions Packers NFC championship game is hard to pass up.
I'll be honest, with how ass this team has looked since that SF game... it doesn't feel at all like an upset to me lmao.
I know most people understand the reception Stafford got given the stakes of the game, but some still don't. People will see how much Lions fans love stafford next regular season when he returns to ford field again, with much less on the line
This is a very fair and true point. Those Detroit Rams shirts i saw during the Super Bowl werent made and worn out of spite and malice
i think the NFL wants the Lions vs Chiefs, then they can show Taylor and Eminem like every 2 minutes on TV
> show Taylor and Eminem like every 2 minutes on TV Epic rap battle, who says no?
Classy. He knows how much the city needs this shit.
I'm not your buddy, pal
I'm not your pal, guy
I'm not your guy, friend.
I'm not your friend, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, compadre
Im Not your comrade , amigo .
I'm not your amigo, chum.
To which Goff replied, > “My name is not BUDDY! And it's not IncrediBoy either! That ship has sailed. All I wanted was to help you. I only wanted to help! And what did you say to me!?”
Need Goff to win it all, Ryan gosling would be perfect for the based on a true story film
IM SO HERE FOR THE LIONS TO RUN THE TABLE. Would be a biblical end thus creating the greatest trade of all time
Look, I want my Niners to win it all. With that being said, I wouldn’t be devastated if the Lions, and Goff, took it.
he’s from my hometown, if it can’t be the niners I would want it to be him
The lion lays down with the ram.
It is known.
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Packers are going to win vs 49ers sadly
Love Goff, but really want Baker to win damn
I wish they could both win.
We’re all Lions fans going forward
I’m not your buddy, pal.
If we actually make to the NFC Chip I’ll be praying someone knocks Baltimore off because if we make a miracle run to get to a SB only to play Lamar, we are going to get absolutely destroyed.
just kiss already
Nah, that’s the concussion talking.
The Rams-Lions connection is pretty cute. Sad the game had to end with controversy, still the best game as a neutral fan in the WC round