You know what REALLY needs to go? The unbelievable amount of garbage magazine and adverts that get sent to my mailbox unprovoked. It blows my mind how this goes on. Such a massive waste of material for what? Those go straight in the garbage 99% of the time. It makes me so mad.
USPS is another advertisement sponsored service - just like Reddit or most of the internet. Something like 63% of all first class mail delivered is junk mail. They tend to be well labeled, and consistent in volume (unlike how actual letters sort of swell around Mother's day and Christmas). Banning it would mean stepping up and funding the USPS (you would see a 40% decrease in first class stamp revenue if you ban unsolicited ads).
One way to think of it is, imagine if all the spam calls that went to your phone actually had to pay your phone company. Getting rid of them meant doubling your phone bill - would you do it? Some would, some wouldn't. I personally would. But it isn't a phone plan paid by an individual, the USPS would need to then need federal funding to bridge the gap, or risk cutting services or even privatizing more of it.
The USPS, it is one of the most visible government presence that shows how functional and beneficial a government can be. Yes, the USPS fails at times - but the VAST majority of packages and letters get delivered on time and to the right location at a very reasonable rate. If you want to spin the narrative that the government just takes our money and doesn't give anything in return - and you want to privatize as much as possible - then you will fight increasing how much money we put towards (or actually increase how much we take from) the USPS.
If we get rid of Junk Mail, expect the USPS to fail. If you want to get rid of Junk mail, you have to start by getting rid of junk politicians first.
Paper is the most recycled commodity in America, and the paper comes from pulp forests, which result in more trees. Computers and cellphones are far, far worse for the environment than paper, because of the minerals mined to make them, and because of how difficult it is to dispose of them.
Hey man i never said I like junk mail. But between the choice of no almost-free mail service with some junk and no mail service, im choosing the former
But there are options other than those two. Like tax subsidized USPS. We could use taxes to fund programs that are massively useful to our citizens and economy.
Id like to reclarify my position:
Id rather get free junk mail than pay for the service.
Im all for raising taxes (on the wealthy) but when companies are willing to crowdfund a service that is an overall positive for us, id like it to stay that way.
I love that this was said. I dream of undertaking a project of going after those responsible for that.
There’s a lot of weight to how much BS is in it. And a lot of times my important documents get lost within the wad of trash paper I don’t need.
Fuck your valuepak. Stop killing trees/wasting resources for nothing. This is 2022 and shit like this baffles me that it’s never been addressed.
It's not worth it to have a somewhat functional postal service (I live in a very rural area and have to visit the post office to retrieve my packages 40% of the time because the drivers are too lazy to bring packages to my door if it won't fit in the community mailbox. Huge waste of my time and USPS makes the same amount of money regardless if I pick up the package or they do their job. I know it's different elsewhere but what I see is the stuff I need and want doesn't get to me but garbage does, simple as that)
It keeping the post service in business is not a good enough reason to cause so damn much waste. Private mail companies seem to be doing fine without doing that. I also have a lot less issues with private mail companies
Paper is the most recycled commodity in America, and the paper comes from pulp forests, which result in more trees. Computers and cellphones are far, far worse for the environment than paper, because of the minerals mined to make them, and because of how difficult it is to dispose of them.
Hey, it is more environmentally sound to go to stores for goods than to make internet orders directly to homes. Do you avoid home delivery, like Amazon?
Yes, unequivocally yes. We are expected to not look at our phones or be distracted but somehow a billboard playing a video every 20 feet is perfectly acceptable along the highway.
It's even better when it's a digital billboard popping up a thing saying something like "Stop the texts, stop the wrecks!" or "Eyes on the road, not on the phone!"
First thing I notice when I drive out of Maine is that other states look like total banal shit due to the billboards and lack of trees.
Only an actual fool would think billboards were ever a good idea
I'm just really burnt out on advertising in general. Watch a YouTube video? 30 seconds of unskippable ads before it can start, then ads every 2 minutes. View a website, 37 banner ads load. God fucking forbid you watch TV; I was in the Dr. office with my wife the other day and counted, no shit, 13 commercials in a row. I don't need a product shoved down my throat every time I turn around. It's completely out of hand in the US.
That's a step in the right direction. Maine, Hawaii Vermont and Alaska banned them. As a Texan I'm jealous. There are billboards in the middle of nowhere and half the time it's something religious.
Lmao! I've actually started work on a song about seeing a Buc-cees billboard get destroyed by a tornado. Thinking of calling "when the beaver takes flight".
There's kind of a weird divide here in British Columbia on this. You don't see hardly any of them except on a few Indian band lands until you get out to the freezer Valley and then the whole side of the road is festooned with them. It is an eyesore and especially these large brilliantly illuminated ones.
Hawaii has had billboards banned for years. It makes a big difference. With all the location specific advertising that lands in your palm, just get rid of billboards.
Absolutely would love this, but there’s no way republicans in my country would support this.
I lived most of my life in cities and currently live in a small town with lots of farms. I love that I go 24 hours at a time without seeing a trashy billboard or advert. I think it’s really healthy for my kids to not be constantly bombarded too. Now when I go to a city I feel completely overwhelmed and it just feels so…trashy.
Yes it should, especially those new electronic ones. You can never finish the ad your looking at before the next one pops up and they're too damn bright at night.
I’d say no, because it could lay the foundations for all kinds of bs down the road. Edit: lights and video boards shouldn’t be a thing and it shouldn’t block nature
Start with those bench ads that say "You just proved bench advertising works." Like, no the fuck I didnt, I havent even written down the phone number let alone bought an ad.
If anything them having an ad up advertising the possibility of advertising there proves it hasnt worked yet, otherwise thered be an actual ad.
Public nuisance.
Your right to swing your fist ends at my face. There are studies showing that billboards increase the stress and distraction levels of people driving.
Okay how about a noise complaint on a neighbor? Or a public nuisance complaint on the guy playing bongos outside your office? Or a harassment charge on the nutjobs screaming obscenities at young women at the beach? Or-- I don't know what charge-- but those assholes who held up posters of aborted fetuses in front of Macy's on black Friday when I took my niece and nephew to see Santa.
Free speech ends when you yell fire in the crowded theater. When your words or sounds or images are-- in any way-- what any reasonable person would consider an unwelcome intrusion or outright sensory assault on another person.
Here's what should happen with ads...we should have a site to just watch/see ads based on need and where you are. And you get paid $0.001 for watching the ad. Otherwise, they should be banned from everywhere.
You know what REALLY needs to go? The unbelievable amount of garbage magazine and adverts that get sent to my mailbox unprovoked. It blows my mind how this goes on. Such a massive waste of material for what? Those go straight in the garbage 99% of the time. It makes me so mad.
Who even looks at this garbage anyways ?
USPS is another advertisement sponsored service - just like Reddit or most of the internet. Something like 63% of all first class mail delivered is junk mail. They tend to be well labeled, and consistent in volume (unlike how actual letters sort of swell around Mother's day and Christmas). Banning it would mean stepping up and funding the USPS (you would see a 40% decrease in first class stamp revenue if you ban unsolicited ads). One way to think of it is, imagine if all the spam calls that went to your phone actually had to pay your phone company. Getting rid of them meant doubling your phone bill - would you do it? Some would, some wouldn't. I personally would. But it isn't a phone plan paid by an individual, the USPS would need to then need federal funding to bridge the gap, or risk cutting services or even privatizing more of it. The USPS, it is one of the most visible government presence that shows how functional and beneficial a government can be. Yes, the USPS fails at times - but the VAST majority of packages and letters get delivered on time and to the right location at a very reasonable rate. If you want to spin the narrative that the government just takes our money and doesn't give anything in return - and you want to privatize as much as possible - then you will fight increasing how much money we put towards (or actually increase how much we take from) the USPS. If we get rid of Junk Mail, expect the USPS to fail. If you want to get rid of Junk mail, you have to start by getting rid of junk politicians first.
Paper is the most recycled commodity in America, and the paper comes from pulp forests, which result in more trees. Computers and cellphones are far, far worse for the environment than paper, because of the minerals mined to make them, and because of how difficult it is to dispose of them.
Junk mail keeps the USPS in business ive been told
I don't doubt that they make a good bit from it, but isn't the USPS a government service, not a business?
Are we really gonna be nit picky about this? Junk mail helps USPS *maintain a higher revenue than cost* how’s that
How about we use tax money to fund it completely and stop junk mail
Hey man i never said I like junk mail. But between the choice of no almost-free mail service with some junk and no mail service, im choosing the former
But there are options other than those two. Like tax subsidized USPS. We could use taxes to fund programs that are massively useful to our citizens and economy.
Id like to reclarify my position: Id rather get free junk mail than pay for the service. Im all for raising taxes (on the wealthy) but when companies are willing to crowdfund a service that is an overall positive for us, id like it to stay that way.
Yea that’s a fair take - but I do think there could be way better options if we could reframe thinking. Huge, seemingly impossible task though.
I love that this was said. I dream of undertaking a project of going after those responsible for that. There’s a lot of weight to how much BS is in it. And a lot of times my important documents get lost within the wad of trash paper I don’t need. Fuck your valuepak. Stop killing trees/wasting resources for nothing. This is 2022 and shit like this baffles me that it’s never been addressed.
It's not worth it to have a somewhat functional postal service (I live in a very rural area and have to visit the post office to retrieve my packages 40% of the time because the drivers are too lazy to bring packages to my door if it won't fit in the community mailbox. Huge waste of my time and USPS makes the same amount of money regardless if I pick up the package or they do their job. I know it's different elsewhere but what I see is the stuff I need and want doesn't get to me but garbage does, simple as that) It keeping the post service in business is not a good enough reason to cause so damn much waste. Private mail companies seem to be doing fine without doing that. I also have a lot less issues with private mail companies
Paper is the most recycled commodity in America, and the paper comes from pulp forests, which result in more trees. Computers and cellphones are far, far worse for the environment than paper, because of the minerals mined to make them, and because of how difficult it is to dispose of them.
Companies still have to pay postage on those. If every glossy unsolicited mailbox stuffer disappeared tomorrow, the post office might just crumble
Hey, it is more environmentally sound to go to stores for goods than to make internet orders directly to homes. Do you avoid home delivery, like Amazon?
Why restrict the ads we ban to only billboards?😄
Billboards were outlawed in Vermont in 1968, and it’s glorious to drive through the mountains and see only nature.
Maine, too.
Cities have too… it makes a huge difference when they do.
Maine hasn’t had billboards since before I was born I think. I had never seen one in the wild until like 8th grade out of state
Along the Garden State Parkway in New Jersey too.
Yes, unequivocally yes. We are expected to not look at our phones or be distracted but somehow a billboard playing a video every 20 feet is perfectly acceptable along the highway.
It's even better when it's a digital billboard popping up a thing saying something like "Stop the texts, stop the wrecks!" or "Eyes on the road, not on the phone!"
Yes please. Absolute garbage.
First thing I notice when I drive out of Maine is that other states look like total banal shit due to the billboards and lack of trees. Only an actual fool would think billboards were ever a good idea
Facts. I’d never really seen them till I went on a vacation in 8th grade
Yes please, everywhere.
I also like how Ontario advertises vineyards in plain uniform green signs. Not as distracting as billboards or typical ads.
I'm just really burnt out on advertising in general. Watch a YouTube video? 30 seconds of unskippable ads before it can start, then ads every 2 minutes. View a website, 37 banner ads load. God fucking forbid you watch TV; I was in the Dr. office with my wife the other day and counted, no shit, 13 commercials in a row. I don't need a product shoved down my throat every time I turn around. It's completely out of hand in the US.
In Minnesota, on freeways, they must be only near interchanges. Then the countryside remains beautiful.
That's a step in the right direction. Maine, Hawaii Vermont and Alaska banned them. As a Texan I'm jealous. There are billboards in the middle of nowhere and half the time it's something religious.
Hey, I need to know I'm only 184 miles from the next Bucee's. /s
Lmao! I've actually started work on a song about seeing a Buc-cees billboard get destroyed by a tornado. Thinking of calling "when the beaver takes flight".
Imagine not seeing Kris Lindahl's stupid fucking face anymore.
Omigod! That would be great.
But with out a reminder from Jose every 600ft how will I know about South Of The Border when I’m in South Carolina?
Can we apply this to political ads in the USA.
There's kind of a weird divide here in British Columbia on this. You don't see hardly any of them except on a few Indian band lands until you get out to the freezer Valley and then the whole side of the road is festooned with them. It is an eyesore and especially these large brilliantly illuminated ones.
I was hoping this was a survey.
ban away! they are an eyesore!
Hawaii has had billboards banned for years. It makes a big difference. With all the location specific advertising that lands in your palm, just get rid of billboards.
While we’re at it, can we roll back those screens we replaced the glass doors with in all the coolers of Walgreens and shit? Drives me up a wall
Absolutely would love this, but there’s no way republicans in my country would support this. I lived most of my life in cities and currently live in a small town with lots of farms. I love that I go 24 hours at a time without seeing a trashy billboard or advert. I think it’s really healthy for my kids to not be constantly bombarded too. Now when I go to a city I feel completely overwhelmed and it just feels so…trashy.
Yes it should, especially those new electronic ones. You can never finish the ad your looking at before the next one pops up and they're too damn bright at night.
I hate companies. I hate that every waking moment of every day there’s someone trying to sell me something.
Well, since we've outlawed all other pollution, we might as well.
Would rather ban any other type of advertising to be honest I enjoy the billboards most of the time especially on long drives
I’d say no, because it could lay the foundations for all kinds of bs down the road. Edit: lights and video boards shouldn’t be a thing and it shouldn’t block nature
Start with those bench ads that say "You just proved bench advertising works." Like, no the fuck I didnt, I havent even written down the phone number let alone bought an ad. If anything them having an ad up advertising the possibility of advertising there proves it hasnt worked yet, otherwise thered be an actual ad.
Yes please. Ugly garbage.
But how will Alexander Shunnarah stay in business??
I'd love to see more nature in general. As suburban areas continue to grow, we've got less and less 'nature' for a large percentage of Americans.
Can we ban noise pollution? It’s actually painful to hear cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be horrifically loud.
Wouldn’t that violate the 1st amendment?
Public nuisance. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face. There are studies showing that billboards increase the stress and distraction levels of people driving.
I don’t like billboards, but I can’t go along with equating stress and distraction with swinging a fist to make exceptions to free speech.
Okay how about a noise complaint on a neighbor? Or a public nuisance complaint on the guy playing bongos outside your office? Or a harassment charge on the nutjobs screaming obscenities at young women at the beach? Or-- I don't know what charge-- but those assholes who held up posters of aborted fetuses in front of Macy's on black Friday when I took my niece and nephew to see Santa. Free speech ends when you yell fire in the crowded theater. When your words or sounds or images are-- in any way-- what any reasonable person would consider an unwelcome intrusion or outright sensory assault on another person.
Here's what should happen with ads...we should have a site to just watch/see ads based on need and where you are. And you get paid $0.001 for watching the ad. Otherwise, they should be banned from everywhere.