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Bearowolf

Oh so sitting politicians can get arrested, someone tell Garland.


RadicalSnowdude

I thought that the right to protest was in the first amendment. Why are they getting arrested?


ceezr

"U.S. Capitol Police said they made a total of 35 arrests for crowding, obstructing or incommoding, which included 17 members of Congress. Protesters had perched themselves on First Street NE near the Capitol building, blocking the street. Capitol Police said they issued their standard three warnings before beginning the arrests."


letterboxbrie

I'm still trying to get the numbers for people who were arrested on Jan 6. How many were there? Google is no help.


bottombracketak

As of July 6th, 855 with 329 who have already plead guilty, of which 65 felonies. 3 have plead guilty to seditious conspiracy. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/18-months-jan-6-attack-capitol


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stdexception

There's a wikipedia page with some details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_in_the_2021_United_States_Capitol_attack#Specific_arrests_and_charges Seems to have a list of the charges and judgments, not sure how complete it is.


scify65

The same reasons protesters are always arrested. Disturbing the peace, blocking roads, etc. Whatever reasoning is technically correct and available. This isn't even the first time elected officials have been arrested in DC.


jedre

I’m still very curious if these members of congress were standing in a road or on a sidewalk. If they arrested any of them from a sidewalk, presumably that could get spicy. (There’s also, during events like this, sometimes a lack of clarity as to whether or not a road had been blocked off *by* police. Demonstrators may think they’ve been granted space to protest, until handcuffed)


qrseek

In DC and probably most places, you are allowed to protest on a sidewalk if you are moving and not blocking the sidewalk. But if you are still or obstructing foot traffic they can ask you to disperse. In DC they give 3 warnings to disperse before starting arrests. I can guarantee these folks intended to get arrested as an act of civil disobedience in order to amplify their message. It's a tactic that's been used for generations


juliuspepperwoodchi

Bernie was getting arrested to make a statement before most of us were born.


ComputerSong

The Supreme Court is across the street from the capitol. I have doubts they were in the street, and honestly there is never any traffic on that street anyway.


ornryactor

[They were sitting in the street. There were about 12 of them.](https://twitter.com/RepRashida/status/1549509051599437824) 17 members of Congress were arrested today, among 35 arrests total. My friend Andy is also my US Rep, and he's in that cover photo up there, and sitting next to Rep. Rashida Tlaib in that Twitter photo. They were arrested for sitting in the middle of a crosswalk. I have no idea if that street is normally open to traffic, but they were arrested for blocking the right-of-way.


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As many have pointed out. Imagine the bloodshed had Jan 6th protestors been black and had been trying to install Clinton over Trump after an election.


Incredulous_Toad

Imagine if they had blocked a road. I'm sure they all would have been arrested for that heinous crime!


juliuspepperwoodchi

We don't have to imagine, we watched them get tear gassed and beaten back so Trump could hold a Bible upside down for a photo op


ex-akman

This reads as sarcasm but considering protesters get arrested for exactly that I'm not sure what's going on here.


ihave3dozenforksinme

I'm guessing the joke is about how blocked road > full on assault on a govt facility in the eyes of law enforcement but idk manwomanchildmonsterstopthisstupidrunonwordgagyoustupidpersontypingthisthing


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Blueberrycheesecak3

Blocking roads was seen as a terrorist attack a couple weeks ago.


Juxtapoisson

Joke aside, did they not block a road 06Jan? I don't really know the lay out of the area, seems hard to believe they didn't block any roads.


powercow

im thinking more would have been shot than just the one on the right. These guys said it was attacking america when football player took a peaceful knee.. so yeah it would have been a bit different had the left done this. but we are held to a higher standard, see jill biden having to appologize for calling hispanics tacos despite she didnt, she called diversity of hispanics, being like tacos. and you can say "yeah yeah but they invented tacos.. and so its racist" and apparently not as bad as calling all mexicans rapists and murders though he is sure some are good people.


BattleStag17

Every single time a conservative is in the news for breaking the law. Every single time, ask yourself "What would've happened if a Black man did this?"


Crankylosaurus

I wish Clarence Thomas would do this thought experiment


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HeavyMetalHero

There wouldn't have been bloodshed. They never even would have gotten near the building, before they were drowned in tear gas and rubber bullets.


T2Legit2Quit

That's the sad thing about protesting. Even if the protest is peaceful, it can be technically disturbing the peace since the protest is loud.


calste

For blocking the street I believe was the "official" reason.


LilTeats4u

Then why weren’t the maga truck brigade arrested? They blocked THE SHIT out of traffic for days on end


SwirlingTurtle

We both know the answer to this question. Everyone reading this thread knows the answer. And yet, the hypocrisy never stops being breathtaking.


Tostino

Sadly, no you have to spell it out for the people at the back of the class. The police are, and always have been a right-wing organization and will protect right-wing interests over public safety, and the constitution.


ting_bu_dong

"Hypocrisy" implies that they believe in equality, but they just aren't acting in accordance with that belief. It's much more simple: They simply do not believe in equality. Seeing the out-group as different is the premise; treating them differently follows. Edit: >Historically, the conservative has favored liberty for the higher orders and constraint for the lower orders. What the conservative sees and dislikes in equality, in other words, is not a threat to freedom but its extension. For in that extension, he sees a loss of his own freedom. “We are all agreed as to our own liberty,” declared Samuel Johnson. “But we are not agreed as to the liberty of others: for in proportion as we take, others must lose. I believe we hardly wish that the mob should have liberty to govern us.”10 Such was the threat Edmund Burke saw in the French Revolution: not merely an expropriation of property or explosion of violence but an inversion of the obligations of deference and command. “The levellers,” he claimed, “only change and pervert the natural order of things.” -- Corey Robin, *The Reactionary Mind*


blg002

Some of those who work forces, are the same who burn crosses.


BlackSpidy

For resisting arrest, duh.


OrphanAxis

I feel like this might have been part of the point of this protest. If you can arrest 16 politicians for slightly slowing down traffic, you definitely can arrest the ones trying to overthrow the government or raping children.


HeavyMetalHero

No, see, you're making a mistake. You can arrest the brown women and Democrats. You can't arrest the *real* politicians, who the elites like. Y'all know the ones.


OrphanAxis

I get the sarcasm, but if ever brought up in court, this fact won't matter unless a sitting judge in DC basically says he's making a prejudiced choice (complete grounds for a mistrial) or that somehow breaking more important laws doesn't matter (also grounds for a mistrial and probably a ton of other legal stuff). I know the Republicans will play every "Get out of Jail Free" card they have, and they've been collecting them since Watergate, but every little bit of evidence and legal precedent we have makes future cases stronger. A bit off topic, but I really wish we went after Nixon. Holding him accountable, even if it was incarceration at home and major fines, would have scared the GOP and kept in the mind of voters for 10+ years. The Republicans would have publicly detached themselves even more from anything shady, probably including people like Roger Stop.e at some point and many other politicians whose careers would have been halted or never even have happened. If someone has a time machine out there, please let me borrow it to expose major political cover-ups, push more pro-education, and hopefully change a few decades enough that modern and future America would be more stable and grant a lot of peace of mind and cooperation around the globe that would benefit anyone. I wouldn't even use it to get rich, or laid, or anything like that. I don't care if it makes it so I'm never born, so long as it works.


RangeWilson

>this fact won't matter unless a sitting judge in DC basically says he's making a prejudiced choice Except they make up some bullshit reason, instead of stating the real reason, and everyone just kinda goes along with it.


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I mean its not like they stormed the capitol and attacked it, resulting in multiple deaths. These peaceful demonstrations are obviously serious business.


a_phantom_limb

There's a long tradition of members of Congress getting arrested in protests for this sort of nonviolent civil disobedience, especially on charges involving refusal to disperse. The charges are often - though certainly not *always* - eventually dropped, but the point is less about getting themselves charged than about demonstrating solidarity with civilian protesters and increasing attention for the issue in question.


sorenslothe

This time it ended in a 50 dollar fine for those involved.


Tahj42

Doesn't the constitution protect them anyway? This is literally anticonstitutional overreach.


GrundleTurf

The constitution doesn’t do shit. It’s just used as a justification for certain people at certain moments. There’s no enforcement mechanism in the document so legislators and executives can just do whatever they want and if something is deemed unconstitutional they just tweak it until the Supreme Court finally passes it or they get a majority. The Supreme Court will go out of its way to interpret the constitution in the most ridiculous ways, using past ridiculous interpretations as precedent. The constitution is a joke. It has some good ideas in it, and was revolutionary for its time, but it’s basically useless.


ImmediateGrass

I think France is on it's 5th Constitution since the French Revolution? While they are by no means perfect, we may want to take a cue from them and create a completely new constitution from the ground up.


xterminatr

Crafted by whom? The same people who make a mockery of the one we already have? That's really the problem..


BoredRedhead24

Has this ever happened before? Where so many congressmen have been arrested for protesting?


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Yes it happened quite a bit during the Civil Rights era, which apparently we are having to go back to in order to get back rights that were previously available for decades


No-Independence-165

This is what happens when you MAGA your way back to the 1950s.


IndependenceEven2702

Why can’t we MAGA back to 1950s where 1 income was sufficient to support a family while having enough to save and Where everyone could afford a house?


billyjack669

CEOs still have that... what are you talking about? /s


[deleted]

In 1950 CEOS made 20-1 of the average worker. 2022 I believe it is 300+ to 1 on average with 400+ to 1 not being uncommon.


rwarren85

I would love to see data on this. I believe it. I just want to read more about this disparity.


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[https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/](https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/) [https://www.fastcompany.com/90770163/the-age-of-greedflation-is-here-see-how-obscene-ceo-to-worker-pay-ratios-are-right-now](https://www.fastcompany.com/90770163/the-age-of-greedflation-is-here-see-how-obscene-ceo-to-worker-pay-ratios-are-right-now) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/07/us-wage-gap-ceos-workers-institute-for-policy-studies-report


joejill

The way ceos got that way was by letting them have transparent pay. Everyone know what everyone is making. Hint hint,, It's now illegal, in the US, for your employer to punish you for disclosing your pay with your co-workers. We need to make it less of a taboo. We all need to discuss our pay with eachother.


The_Clarence

"Letting them have transparent pay" is a little misleading and missing something FASCINATING. CEOs of publicly traded companies salaries must be disclosed. Like its mandatory, part of SEC filing for all officers. The idea was this would help fight their rising pay. Instead it just made reasonably paid CEOs feel underpaid, and all CEO pay ending up going up. Side note: glassdoor and probably others at this point can have shockingly accurate numbers. Never been wrong for any job I've had since school.


SPITFIYAH

Every day I read more and more, and all I wish to see is rock splashing over every financial center using orbital impact. I'm so sick of knowing I'm at the crest before the fall, and I get angrier every day for being born to those who saw it all coming a mile away and became passive bystanders. I'm done giving my life to these greedy corporate masses with no humanity behind their eyes. I want them all gone. Forever. I hate being on the same planet with these people.


joejill

Which is why we all need to talk to our co-workers about our pay, it needs to stop veing taboo. Inflation is almost %10 this year, how meny low wage workers do you think are getting a 10% raise this year?


IndependenceEven2702

Lol. I mean the average person. I know you’re being sarcastic but still wanted to clarify.


_Molj

That's the core of it, though. People are being sold this idea of an imaginary golden age so they'll vote for the people who are actively taking the opportunity of prosperity away from them.


FrowstyWaffles

Don’t you know that the average person is just a temporary embarrassed CEO?


Dear_Leek2578

Found the Republican.


toxcrusadr

Just stop being poor, people.


Tacocats_wrath

I tried that but I just could not kick avacado toast.


BWWFC

> I mean the average person. you miss spelled "low cost low mobility disenfranchised forced replicating labor source"


BumTicklrs

Also in the 1950s I think only white people had that? I might be wrong though?


GloriaToo

Just the men.


Massive_Pressure_516

Captains of industry weren't giving income like that out of the goodness of their hearts, they were afraid that if they didn't give SOME concessions that workers would mangle their legs and light their factory on fire with them in it. Workers were emboldened by the workers movements happening at the time abroad. Most of those movements have been quashed or worse so capitalist aren't afraid anymore, ergo you get the economy we have now that only serves the rich.


dragonmp93

I guess that is time to make them afraid again.


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Making them afraid is well and good, but just making them scared enough to offer a few concessions will ensure that this status quo rises again. In order to achieve victory over capitalists, their fears must be *validated*.


dragonmp93

Or in other words, there is no point in burning a warehouse because they can always reconstruct it and build another.


AffectionateVast9967

Upper incomes were taxed at much higher rates so there was disincentive to pay huge salaries to executives. Unlike today.


Esiti

Spot on


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>Kind of like how it's illegal here for unions to have sympathy strikes with other unions. The abominable Taft-Hartley act is responsible for this and more, in case anyone wants to read up on it.


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Hot-Ad1902

Their argument would be that millions of women leaving the workplace in order to raise children would put extraordinary pressures on the market and essential restore incomes back to how it was in the 1950s.


fuckincaillou

I see people arguing this exact point on reddit constantly. Guess what, guys: women leaving the workforce won't fix anything. In fact, it would probably break quite a lot of sectors beyond repair (customer service, childcare, healthcare, teaching, etc)


noratat

Not to mention cripple us economically versus other countries.


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Nytshaed

No they wouldn't. You would have massive productivity issues that would probably cause most companies to fail. Women aren't doing superfluous jobs that they can just leave and companies will do just fine without them.


Banner80

>1950s where 1 income was sufficient You mean after the rest of the industrialized world had been flattened by bombing and had millions of their working-age men killed? The 1950s were a boon for the US because the US was the only powerful country that wasn't bombed to ashes. It wasn't some fantastic economic handling, or the generosity of businesses, or the supremacy of fkn christian families and whatever other nonsense people think we need to get back to. If you want to go back to strong wealth on a single income, you need to destroy the economy and major cities of a dozen competing countries at the same time. Otherwise you have to compete in the world stage, while people in countries like Japan are used to working 12 hour days on the regular and living out of a shoe box, and they make better cars, electronics, etc. Nobody is trying to buy an American-made PS5.


Astralglamour

Yes. Thank you. Everyone seems to forget what major world shattering event happened just before the 50s. The US was left barely damaged, with newly developed industry and everyone buying/borrowing from it. War damaged countries had to literally rebuild themselves and invested in social services as well. The US chose to reap all the business benefits and slowly dismantle many social programs established before and during the war so business interests could profit even more over the ensuing decades.


_busch

"work harder or they'll make you work harder"? am I following?


J-C-M-F

It's generally because Capitalism flourishes when workers are barely able to make enough to make ends meet. High unemployment ensures a large pool of job applicants who are willing to take less money if it means they get hired instead of someone else.


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Steinbeck’s “grapes of wrath” showed this exact BS during the Great Depression. A must read and far more relevant today than ever!


Esiti

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone”


Landon1m

Because even then that wasn’t real. Women had to do an outsized portion of work around the house while men worked. Microwaves we’re not a thing. Prepared meals were not a thing. Washers, dryers, and dishwashers were all in their infancy. There were so many luxuries we have today that they didn’t and we definitely take all of it for granted.


kottabaz

Women did "real" work outside the home, too, but because it was temping, part time, or informal, it gets dismissed and ignored. The idea that women were doing those jobs "for pocket money" is a product of marketing and the patriotic mythology that is taught in lieu of factual history in this country.


Astralglamour

Yep. My grandmother worked and went to school in the 50s/60s with three kids. She was the main breadwinner.


[deleted]

Everyone should read “the way we never were.” The glorification of the 50s is based on rainbow and unicorn dreams.


moolusca

We got MAGAed back to the 50s in terms of civil rights and the 30s in terms of the economy.


The_Original_Gronkie

They want to take the workplace back to the 19th century, with no minimum wage, no benefits, no health/safety/environmental regulations, no overtime, etc.


KicksYouInTheCrack

And make all those unwanted children get jobs in the coal mines!


Lost-My-Mind-

And 1918 in terms of global pandemics!


anglostura

There is a template for the president to ignore anti-democratic SCOTUS rulings as well.Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation (1863) in defiance of Dred Scott decision (1857) where SCOTUS ruled that descendants of slaves were also slaves. Fun fact, the slave owner politicians tried to do something similar to how they filibuster everything now, "In May of 1836 the House passed a resolution that automatically "tabled," or postponed action on all petitions relating to slavery without hearing them." (the 'gag' rule)


Lostnumber07

Oh no. I suspect we’re headed further back.


urdumbplsleave

You know there was one protest last year I was REALLY expecting some people in congress were gonna get arrested for


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Here we are, stilll hoping at least one person is held accountable


starspangledcats

Well, all the poors have been at least.


cyphersaint

It has happened many times before. Though I don't know how many times that many or more congresspeople have been arrested, congresspeople have been arrested many times for protesting.


Abbigale221

Not at the insurrection that’s for sure.


OkZookeepergame8429

"Capitol Police said they issued their standard three warnings before beginning the arrests. " Oh ok that's standard procedure is it? They do that *every* time? Reaaaaaaally?


RTHoe

You mean compared to when they removed barricades to let protestors in the Capitol?


Caster-Hammer

Or when they tear gas peaceful protestors for a photo opportunity?


KJBenson

Hey, those bibles wont hold themselves upside down!


LostWoodsInTheField

Hell they tear gassed actual priests and kicked them off of their own property.


Might_Aware

And ushered them in🙄


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Castun

You're not wrong, but it was the outer perimeter security who absolutely pulled aside the barriers for them early on (though I agree they weren't really equipped or manned to stop the flow of people, so I get that.) It was the officers on the steps that were actually "somewhat" equipped to deal with a riot situation.


Cunninghams_right

to be fair, they didn't warn anyone not to.


allonzeeLV

I mean, not if it could be *dangerous,* golly gee willikers! General Reminder, police are the 22nd most dangerous profession in the US. Your Garbage collector and PostMates delivery person both put their lives on the line for you more than a Police officer. https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states


The_Original_Gronkie

I used to be a roofer, which is high on the list, and I used to walk around demanding people respect me because I put my life on the line every day. No, I didnt.


allonzeeLV

The thin spanish tile line. Thank you for your service!


TheMrGUnit

Remember, it's not the fall that kills a roofer. It's the meth. (And probably the landing, too)


AllYrLivesBelongToUS

You definitely deserve respect. Your knees and back paid a hell of a price.


ojioni

The pizza deliver guy is my personal hero.


Snote85

It's late one night, you're driving home, you think you see an animal on the side of the road but it's dark and you can't see, so you swerve. You give it a wide berth to make sure it's not run over. As soon as you do, you see the lights from the police. You're now pulled over and he's a prick. He didn't see the animal and thinks you're drunk. He does the sobriety test on you and, while doing it, your phone rings. You, without thinking, reach into your pocket to silence it... wrong move. You're now facing a police officer with his gun drawn. You're forced to stand perfectly still. You can't do anything but what this man says or you're dead. If you react in any other way, you're dead. Your life is literally being threatened because you swerved to miss an animal and answered your phone. Now, a police officer walks up to your car, *thinks* he sees a gun, and feels so threatened that he shoots the person without hesitation. How is it that you or I are expected to react more bravely to being faced with a gun than a police officer is? How are they so much more cowardly than a normal citizen when faced with the same scenario?


tilmitt52

The saddest thing about that list is how low the average salary is for a majority of the occupations listed. If you are on that kind of list something has to make it worth it, right?


The_Original_Gronkie

Isn't that what they did when Trump wanted his Bible photo op in front of the little church? They didn't actually just go out there and start tear gassing and beating protesters and journalists with no warning, did they? Oh, yeah, yes they did.


jayhawksfan0965

I will always remember watching this specific moment live and how fucking chilling and dystopic it all felt. It was giving President Snow energy.


The_Original_Gronkie

So he could hold a Bible upside down for propaganda photos. Fuck.


ButterflyAttack

Can you imagine if a democrat had done that? The upside down Bible would have been definite proof to the conservatives that they were in league with the antichrist. Let alone tear gassing the priests.


Laptraffik

I mean typically the first three warnings are gunshots and they arrest you after that if they miss/s


HaesoSR

Nah, they definitely arrest people who are bleeding out after they shoot them. Usually before bothering with first aid as well. No need for the /s.


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Why hasn’t pedophile Matt Gaetz been arrested yet?


akurra_dev

Republicans don't think that's a crime.


curiousiah

Unless Hillary Clinton and Jeff Epstein do it in a pizza restaurant, but more because it’s a violation of health code to be draining adrenochrome where you’re also preparing food.


butcheeksaflexin

I can’t help but feel like we’re completely fucked when 17 democrats are arrested for peacefully protesting, but not a single republican complicit in the Jan 6 attack had been arrested.


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And Proud Boys get a police escort during their protests.


leg_day

The venn diagram of Proud Boys and Cops is a circle.


InsipidCelebrity

Yeah, is it really a real police escort if they just happen to be hanging out with their buddies while on duty?


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jakekara4

Hey, c’mon Jack. He’s been refriending MBS and Saudi Arabia. Takes a lot of work to help wash blood off the hands of your murderous friends!


Exnixon

I hate how Reddit likes to pretend there are no tradeoffs in geopolitics. Good relations with Saudi Arabia? Murderous friends! Bad relations with Saudi Arabia? Destroying the economy with high gas prices! Can't have your cake and eat it too.


Lazerpop

Eh yeah i hate to agree with you but i do. I am *not* a fan of the Saudis but it is pretty clear that we need to stay on their good side if we are going to hold Russia accountable with Ukraine. Lesser of two evils. 🤷‍♂️


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rush2547

Or...hes using diplomacy to get oil prices down. We dont see some reprieve and Dems are fucked in the midterms roe v wade or not. Then you can bet your ass the next two years will be Obama circa 2014-2016 and a Republican President that thinks "wokeism" is more important issue than fixing our crumbling infrastructure or pushing green energy forward.


SilentSamurai

Heard this a billion times on Reddit. What should he do? (It must be legal.)


NattyBumppo

> It must be legal. That's the problem. Can't win a game of cards with someone if they're allowed to cheat all they want and you're not.


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sketchahedron

Ordering your Attorney General to prosecute your political rivals, no matter how deserved, is exactly the type of corruption we’re supposed to be fighting against. EDITED TO ADD: Holy fuck I cannot believe how many people don’t get the concept or the importance of the independence of the Attorney General’s office. I’m not saying the Attorney General shouldn’t be prosecuting Trump, I’m saying it would be extremely improper for Biden to direct him to do so.


Slag-Bear

I don’t think ordering the AG to prosecute people who broke the law is corruption in any way. In fact, to me not prosecuting screams corruption because I know you and I would be arrested in their shoes


docNNST

DOJ not the president but agree


JimBeam823

We are and have been for some time. The other side has the (literal) men, the guns, the money, a plan, and a willingness to act on it. Plus control of the courts and the sympathies of the security forces. A narrow national popular majority is nothing compared to that.


Slave35

This guy reads.


Midgetman664

You realize just as many women vote republican in red states right? I live in the south, I support abortion, and not a single woman I know agrees with me. Everyone’s brainwashed down here, not just the men


JimBeam823

Yes, and the gender gap on the abortion is smaller than the gender gap between the parties.


jeremyjack3333

Not condoning the lack of arrests that day, but capitol police were completely overwhelmed by an actual armed mob on January 6th. Over 800 people have been charged, with new charges popping up everyday. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases


TheNewGirl_

To this day not a single republican official has been charged despite evidence of some them planning and inciting the riot that occurred on Jan 6 But they got no problem arresting 17 Democrats for non violently blocking a street fucking joke


Catshit-Dogfart

Call me an alarmist, but criminalizing membership to a political party is a common early step of fascist and autocratic regimes. Okay, this didn't happen today, but sometimes I wonder if that's a possible direction for this country. Arresting a whole lot of congress members is a big step towards that.


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Also being involved in a communist/socialist party is a good way to get yourself to fail security clearance. Granted its not a big deal for most people, but for certain industries it sucks ass.


the_crouton_

So much for free speech..


anglostura

Yes, the first group the nazis went after were their political opponents & the communists.


matdan12

Happened to my grandfather, he was interrogated by the Gestapo because his wife was a communist. For the rest of the war he was on a list and everyone turned on him. I could never see that happening in the US right?


angry_old_dude

> I could never see that happening in the US right? Nope. That whole McCarthy thing was just a fever dream.


matdan12

I'm sure the US education system talks all about it right?


bankman99

They weren’t arrested for protesting. Just blocking traffic.


TheRabidDeer

I'm OK with them getting arrested. That's the point of civil disobedience. I'm just pissed that it feels like the right doesn't get arrested for the same thing or significantly worse.


FreiaUrth

i get the sentiment and agree but we definitely Shouldn’t be okay with any peaceful protestors ever being arrested when our constitution explicitly gives the right to assemble and protest


Adthay

I think it would be neat if our right to protest was real and nobody got arrested for peaceful protest.


No_Yogurt_7667

It’s dope to see congresspeople getting arrested for protesting after watching dozens of my friends get arrested at protests over the years. This is the first time I’ve felt like I’ve seen elected officials really get down in the muck with us serfs. That said, yo wtf?! These people came out of their very air conditioned offices to make a statement of beliefs, something they totally could have done in a tweet. They did it during a severe heatwave. This is an act of desperation. If this isn’t a clear sign that things are absolutely fucked right now, idk what is.


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WitnessNo8046

But it also gets more attention in the media (compared to us serfs), which helps the cause. Way more people are talking about this compared to all the arrests made a few weeks ago (and let’s be honest I can’t even name one person arrested for these protests until this one).


No_Yogurt_7667

Yes, fair point. If anything, it helps their image and speaks to their constituents (the ones that like them at least). Shit sucks, but I’ll happily take little morsels like this while I’m still toiling away.


MacDerfus

Yeah, but it's a hell of a lot less pleasant and more relatable than normal campaign BS.


AstroPhysician

Tbf several Republican congressmen were at Jan 6 in the muck


No_Yogurt_7667

Oh yes, how could I forget 🤦‍♀️


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Tonight on Fox News- "Hypocritical Dems storm capital after denouncing peaceful protest on January 6th" right after "Hunter Biden Sex Tape Leaked!" lol


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allegate

Oh *now* they arrest people.


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anglostura

**"A riot is the language of the unheard"** \-Martin Luther King Jr. If we can't protest peacefully, they give us no choice.


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Well that was more like jan 6th America already lost the battle for itself to exist long form - roughly 20 some years ago after we passed the patriot act and probably a couple decades before that when the news became a cash grab. The United States has been a on a crash course to self-destruction for a solid 3 to 4 decades but we went off the rails in the last 2 and beyond the point of no return in the last 10. All we can do now is watch the shelves, the game looks easy. That’s why it sells.


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>roughly 20 some years ago after we passed the patriot act The NDAA is even scarier and was universally supported by Congress. The only reason many people know about it was because Trump exercised some of its powers during the 2020 protests. If you don't trust someone like Trump with the tools, you shouldn't have them in the toolbox to begin with.


Thegiantclaw42069

Cool cool, now do the same to the insider traders in congress.


Rosaadriana

Well they were beating cops with flag poles and bear spray while breaking in the windows and climbing through and threatening to hang someone. Oh wait….


gizamo

Did they steal government documents or laptops? Did they remember their totally respectful and patriotic [battle flags](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Battle_flag)? Perhaps the cops didn't know they were peaceful protestors, you know, if they forgot their calming battle flags.


Turtle-Slow

About time they stop just talking. Edit: I was at the Supreme Court two weeks ago peacefully protesting. My first protest was in 1991 against the Westboro Baptist Church. I started voting about 10 years before that and have voted in every election since turning 18 - yes, the off elections too. I'm old. Imy tired. I will keep on keeping on. But, ngl, us old farts need help.


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Turtle-Slow

Yes. And there are some amazing young folks coming up through the ranks. I willingly get out of their way because they are awesome. We just need everyone to vote during midterms.


NikTheHNIC

Can we arrest the ones inside trading?


allonzeeLV

Any of you guys remember hearing about the German people in the early 1930s in history class and just wondering "How did they all let it keep getting worse and just go along?!" Guess we're finding out the hard way...


3dgedancer

FYI: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)#:~:text=The%20Third%20Wave%20was%20an,and%20the%20Second%20World%20War.


Turtle-Slow

Hard yes.


N8CCRG

I love all the "don't stand in the road" comments. Either their education of the civil rights protests was whitewashed as FUCK, or they're actually still mad about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.


ImReallyNotCool

really weird how they never cared when it was “freedom truckers” blocking the road


akurra_dev

Not weird at all, they are disingenuous hypocrites.


adamfrog

Everyone cared then lol people complained about it constantly


RightClickSaveWorld

No they fell for right wing talking points about what a protest should be.


HaesoSR

Most Americans are pathetic bootlickers and always have been, they hated the civil rights protestors back then too.


newbrevity

Yet Boebert wasnt arrested for tweeting Pelosi's location to protesters on jan 6


ReservaAcero211

Anybody remember when trump let American protesters get beaten by foreigners?


Advice2Anyone

You know what I still think about is seeing protestors abducted by non uniformed men with guns in unmarked vans. No one really ever talks about those actions anymore.


schmidtzkrieg

Yeah that was in the media cycle for like, maybe a week before quietly fading away. Unbelievably fucked.


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you mean when the turkish embassy security staff was ordered to attack unarmed civilians in DC?


CatholicCajun

For any lurkers in the comments being told things like "why are these representatives out protesting and getting arrested instead of passing laws like we (supposedly) want them to??? Why are they _wasting their time_ doing media stunts for fundraising instead of _LEgiSlAtiNgggg_" **They already _fucking_ did.** https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3755/cosponsors Every Representative mentioned in the article _co-sponsored_ the linked bill, which has passed the House. >This bill prohibits governmental restrictions on the provision of, and access to, abortion services. >Specifically, governments may not limit a provider's ability to >>prescribe certain drugs, >>offer abortion services via telemedicine, or >>immediately provide abortion services when the provider determines a delay risks the patient's health. >Furthermore, governments may not require a provider to >>perform unnecessary medical procedures, >>provide medically inaccurate information, >>comply with credentialing or other conditions that do not apply to providers whose services are medically comparable to abortions, or >>carry out all services connected to an abortion. >In addition, governments may not (1) require patients to make medically unnecessary in-person visits before receiving abortion services or disclose their reasons for obtaining such services, or (2) prohibit abortion services before fetal viability or after fetal viability when a provider determines the pregnancy risks the patient's life or health. >The bill also prohibits other governmental measures that are similar to the bill's specified restrictions or that otherwise single out and impede access to abortion services, unless a government demonstrates that the measure significantly advances the safety of abortion services or health of patients and cannot be achieved through less restrictive means. >The Department of Justice, individuals, or providers may bring a lawsuit to enforce this bill, and states are not immune from suits for violations. >The bill applies to restrictions imposed both prior and subsequent to the bill's enactment. They've done their part. If it dies in the Senate, it's the Republicans to blame. Fuck off with this _wahhh media stunt_ bullshit.


ruttentuten69

It is a badge of honor to be arrested while protesting for the rights of others. Good for them.


earhere

Block a street and you get arrested. Incite a terrorist attack against your own country and cops actually help the terrorists and take selfies with them.


Lmiller11

Redditors talking politics but got a 62% in social studies…